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Topic: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information - page 1404. (Read 2761645 times)

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Ok, let me put it another way - what will give LAK value?

Choose any or both options:

1. Burnt electricity (like in Bitcoin)
2. Agreement that 1 LAK has value (like in Bitcoin)

Bitcoin has a third option - decentralized blockchain, which allows financial transactions.

What can your LAK do that neither NXT, nor Bitcoin can?
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... a respected academic to thoroughly review Nxt and write a paper on it...

That's still unclear. What is he gonna do? Go through source code?

We don't have a whitepaper to review yet, right?

And paying $16,000 to a "respected academic" to review your whitepaper just doesn't feel right.

It reduces it to "9 out of 10 dentists recommend" kind of thing... Well, not exactly, but a step in that direction.

And I certainly wouldn't want people to say "oh, and that review they did? They paid $16,000 for it, so...".
legendary
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It seems to me u confused Nxt PoS algo and Nxt crypto algo. We collected 10 BTC for crypto audit only.

If I am right, there will be 10 more BTC from two different users - each 5 BTC.

No. CIYAM offered 5 BTC for PoS algo.
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It seems to me u confused Nxt PoS algo and Nxt crypto algo. We collected 10 BTC for crypto audit only.

If I am right, there will be 10 more BTC from two different users - each 5 BTC.
legendary
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We already have bounties for flaws found - what we are looking for is a respected academic to thoroughly review Nxt and write a paper on it - minor glitches in algos are not really the issue as they can be easily fixed.

The real question is whether there is a major flaw in the PoS itself - if it can be *cheated* in any way easier than a >50% on Bitcoin then the whole thing about promoting PoS as >90% safe would be egg on the face of the devs and likely the end of the project.

And sure - if someone does this for nothing then that would save me 5 BTC so of course I would also be happy to wait until "Nxt is popular enough" but I do think this could speed up the process.

It seems to me u confused Nxt PoS algo and Nxt crypto algo. We collected 10 BTC for crypto audit only.
legendary
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Ok, let me put it another way - what will give LAK value?

Choose any or both options:

1. Burnt electricity (like in Bitcoin)
2. Agreement that 1 LAK has value (like in Bitcoin)
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I actually think that having 80 times the coin supply of BTC is one of the reasons NXT will succeed.  

Bitcoin is effectively in competition with gold as a non-fiat store of value.  The price of gold defines the upper limit of what Bitcoin can hit, and that's currently around $1200 per coin/ounce.  Bitcoin won't go above that price because if people have $1200, they would rather trade it for a one ounce gold coin they can hold in their hand and not a computer file.
+1200. I've been keeping this same thought to myself, but since you broadcast it here, I applaud you. The price of gold is probably the limiting factor for all cryptos, and it's purely for psychological reasons. Past a certain point, it's crazy to have such a valuable unit of account be vulnerable to data corruption, loss or theft. As we've seen, when Bitcoin hit $1200, it didn't rise above it for long. Amagi Metals and Coinabul, who accept BTC for precious metals, provide the conduit for 'difficult to trace' gold.  That's not to say BTC will never get over the price of an ounce of gold. BTC is much easier to move, especially across borders, than physical gold. That feature could fetch a premium. But, we will have to exhaust the demand of BTC holders that want gold before it can move significantly above $1200.
IMO, all of the cryptos that have had successful launches are 'money good'. So long as they are tradeable on exchanges, they are fungible.

 
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You mentioned that PoS is not going to stay with Nxt forever.

What is coming after the Proof of Stake?

I dunno. BCNext once said that at final stage Transparent Forging would become so transparent that we wouldn't even need it.

 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
it will be so transparent, that we even won't be able to see it.
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
Perhaps the way it could be best handled is that the funds are donated to a university that employs academics rather than to any particular academic.

Or just pay per flaw found, like a bounty. Or wait until NXT is popular enough.

We already have bounties for flaws found - what we are looking for is a respected academic to thoroughly review Nxt and write a paper on it - minor glitches in algos are not really the issue as they can be easily fixed.

The real question is whether there is a major flaw in the PoS itself - if it can be *cheated* in any way easier than a >50% on Bitcoin then the whole thing about promoting PoS as >90% safe would be egg on the face of the devs and likely the end of the project.

And sure - if someone does this for nothing then that would save me 5 BTC so of course I would also be happy to wait until "Nxt is popular enough" but I do think this could speed up the process.
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But what's the point? You can't make a network of browser javascripts.

So what's the benefit of mining?

A new way to monetize websites.

Ok, let me put it another way - what will give LAK value?
hero member
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Perhaps the way it could be best handled is that the funds are donated to a university that employs academics rather than to any particular academic.

Or just pay per flaw found, like a bounty. Or wait until NXT is popular enough.
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www.coinschedule.com
I think we need an english thread for C-f-B's project.

+1.
legendary
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I think we need an english thread for C-f-B's project.

Maybe we should start a donation thread to get him a PA or a butler(ette).
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I think we need an english thread for C-f-B's project.
legendary
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This will probably mean my summaries need to get longer.
Either you guys post more here or I'll be forced to start posting this thread completely  Grin

I would also be VERY interested in this. It's a great way to create an incentive for people to build sites that captivate people instead of just copy/pasting crap all over the interwebs.

I would be very surprised if this doesn't get a fair share of attention. It's also marketable in the same way that the mining <> forging pair is.

I am very impressed.

Hold on. We need to prove the concept 1st.

I know.

Just saying that íf it works, it will be a great addition to the way websites are monetised.
It will incentivise content over a quick fix, which is good.

(interested Wink )
legendary
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It brings more people into Nxt, like hardcore old-school miners.

But what's the point? You can't make a network of browser javascripts.

So what's the benefit of mining?

A new way to monetize websites.
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
And you can juggle words however you like, it doesn't make it less wrong.

I certainly won't be donating 5 BTC towards anything that isn't 100% transparent and would assume the others pledging BTC would be expecting the same.

Perhaps the way it could be best handled is that the funds are donated to a university that employs academics rather than to any particular academic. Universities do most of their research this way so if you think that is wrong then I guess you think most academic work is wrong?
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It brings more people into Nxt, like hardcore old-school miners.

But what's the point? You can't make a network of browser javascripts.

So what's the benefit of mining?
legendary
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Newbie
Does LAK increase the value of NXT automatically?

It brings more people into Nxt, like hardcore old-school miners.
legendary
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Does LAK increase the value of NXT automatically or is those two completely independant?
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