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So it is about TPS (or TPM).

Some random thoughts:
Should we aim high and make TPS one of the big distinction form other crypto currencies? Are we realistic with such a high TPS - do we really need it? It could be a VISA alternative. Do we get there? Maybe only if great things are made on top of Nxt the next months. Will there be great things on top of Nxt if we are called the next ripple, which is mostly a negative conjunction in the crypto world? Do we ever get there when we cannot market the super-decentralized-idea, raspberryPis and nice things? Are we the business solution of crypto currencies? Do businesses need cryptos? The business world is still very hesitated in regards to crypto currencies - if we fail in the business world in the next month and decided today to go this route, Nxt would be dead? How realistic is it to establish Nxt big in the business world? Are there other possibilities with ultra hight TPS, if not business related? Can we aim for both worlds? Maybe 200 TPS? (Could parallel blockchains help?) Can we aim high with all the other stuff without hight TPS?

How important is ultra hight TPS? What are your opinions? What did I forgot?

I want a big discussion about this.

The system that provides the fastest transactions securely will surpass Bitcoin as the number once currency. TF and high TPS is the #1 reason for the recent surge in interest in NXT in my opinion. In fact many people think it's already implemented and are out there talking around 'the water cooler' about this. The other factor will be easy FIAT conversion, which means being somewhat friendly to the banking system. Ease of use for regular people is also very very important. Ripple is beating NXT already in all of these areas. So to beat ripple and the others NXT needs to win on these fronts AND be more decentralized and free-standing.

The real question is if the goal is for NXT to be the currency that takes Bitcoin's place, or if it's happy as a 2nd or 3rd tier system that co-exists with other Alt currencies and becomes known as merely a decentralized platform to trade your fake money for different fake money that no one wants or needs or can use except for speculation. Once the current coin boom ends there will probably be a few cryptos that survive and interest in exchanges will die down. People may exchange real world assets with the AE but it's really hard to get people to change old habits. And unless AE gets accepted by the banking system AND the government, centralized exchanges will still be needed for FIAT conversion. The one way around that problem is to be so awesome as a form of currency that easy conversion to FIAT is not needed. That means popular usage amongst buyers, suppliers and consumers. Then everyone can HODL their NXT and not worry about converting. Volatility/Stability is also an issue here, where BTC is obviously lacking.

There's a VERY limited amount of people who dream about issuing their own currency or starting an IPO or even investing in one, but EVERYBODY needs to spend money and EVERYBODY would consider using an alternative that works easier and better than credit and debit cards and also protects against identity theft. EVERYONE also needs a way to perform fast, secure MICRO-TRANSACTIONS on the internet. Being able to quickly send .25 can potentially solve music and movie piracy, revive the online newspapers and allow people to monetize internet content.

Once these important fronts are won, then people might start looking more closely at the other features, such as AE, Aliasing, etc. But if no one is using NXT for the everyday stuff, no one may discover them or they will discover them on another platform like Ripple, Ethereum, EMunie etc. It's a very darwinian thing going on right now. The fittest will survive.

My two cents, or should I say .5 NXT
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Texas Bitcoin Conference NXT Marketing Brochure
http://nxt.sx/images/resources/NXT-Brochure-4.pdf

And thank you again, generous donor, in funding 5000 copies of this to be printed at Austin, TX for my pickup there on Tuesday.

NxtMinnow, I will be sending you what I don't use in Austin for you to hand out in San Francisco.  Mail 'em on to the next Conference when you're done with them.

Now we have 4500 brochures with these outdated texts  Wink

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NXT goes full open source April 4, 2014

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Speaking of exchanges: Cryptsy is coming!

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ongoing events: full open source code April 4;
listing of NXT on Cryptsy

Aren't we still going full open source on April 4 with the 0.8 version of the code, which has the database software?  What is open source today is the not fully functional 0.7 version, right?  So the point is still valid.  

Unfortunate we printed a few days before getting listed on Cryptsy, but anybody motivated to check will find us on Cryptsy now and this lends the brochure credibility.  The key is what Big Vern said, which is right there.

All 5000 of these will get distributed somewhere, and who knows which one will be the one that falls in a key hand to make a key connection for NXT?  I have been thinking that we should start mailing batches of 100 of these brochure out to the various Bitcoin meetups:

http://bitcoin.meetup.com/

I will be making a proposal to the marketing committee for postage to do this...
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What is an ETA for Wesleys one click installer client? This is an absolute priority.

The client is there and working perfect, tested it over and over.

I think it will be integrated by J-L in the first new version that comes out.

Yes but is it a one click installer for new people?

If we have that than we need to push it and market it to the newcomers.

Wesleyh has a windows app, just unzip and run.

You can even install it on USB stick and run it from there.


Wich makes me think, lets create some usb sticks with that app and hand them out to people.  marketing...

I don't know about this strategy Pin. I tried something similar a few years ago (ink pins with my business info printed on them). Didn't work out to well, could have spent the money more effectively. No one really cared about the branding on the pens, they just got free pins at my expense.
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Ok, here's the current NXT distribution as of today.

https://i.imgur.com/Idzj6lQ.png

As you can see, it's pretty horrible. The whales rule almost 85% of the whole coin, and I guess most of them are the initial investors.

Excluding the ~85% of the total NXT the whales have, here's the distribution of the remaining 15%:

https://i.imgur.com/nSwqIuM.png

Many coins are on exchanges. People don't know how to use a client so they leave there NXT on them.

We don't know what the actual distribution is.

Very valid point.
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Is the issue all about the speed of tx? If we want higher speed we have to use less nodes or hubs with better equipments. If we want lower speed we can have more small nodes running with cheaper equipments. How about security? Which one has more security for the network?

This could be more interesting when we consider the "parallel chains" idea.

Perhaps we can "have our cake and eat it to" by having say an NHS (NXT high speed) parallel chain that is only being forged by powerful hubs capable of handling huge amounts of TPM whilst the main part of the network could be forging standard NXT on low-grade hardware.

Smiley


so we get our security from the chain that everyone can access (since security is a function of the distribution of the stake) and our performance from a more specialized chain that wouldn't be very secure on its own but doesn't need to be since the security comes from the accessible chain. wow thats smart.
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I just had a bit of an overwhelming meeting with the outside investor.

He is the creator and owner of this/these projects:


https://www.trackprotect.com/
http://www.sustainsound.org/
http://www.rhosmovement.com/

Basically, he wants to use Nxt as a vehicle for his business and to power his system of distributing music.

I just spent two hours talking with him and he is immensely energetic and serious about this.

He sees the potential úse of Nxt and digital property and talks will continue.

From both a marketing perspective as a purely investment perspective, this could be a significant step forward for Nxt!

Music is the #1 attracting factor for users anywhere and we would be tapping into a worldwide userbase with these guys.

Even better is that his development cycle is almost finished already (I saw his already working product) and he is looking for a good "fit".

He is OK with me sharing this, because he wants to be open about his project. Have a look and see what it is all about.

As a musician and instrument maker myself +1 or +1440

And agreed... Music is pretty universal. It would be a huge attracting factor.
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good news, I have lobbied to add NXT on https://www.litebit.eu/

NXT will be ADDED NEXT WEEK !!!!

this is big becausse you can buy NXT with mistercash, ideal, etc...


this is a new gateway to fiat also. MARKETING, GO PROMOTE IT PLS

Pin

NXT: 12088507821025750338


Good news NXT is added. you can buy and sell NXT for fiat here:


https://www.litebit.eu/en/

a second gateway to gold and silver will be added next week:

http://www.bitgild.com/


I have put a lot of hours in NXT but donations are disappointing. Sad


NXT: 12088507821025750338

Hell Yeah. Thanks Pin.
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3rd & 4th video from the 2014 Texas Bitcoin Conference:

What Is Proof Of Stake In Nextcoin (NXT) vs. Proof Of Work In Bitcoin (BTC) - By Tai Zen
http://prisonorfreedom.com/what-is-proof-of-stake-in-nextcoin-nxt-vs-proof-of-work-in-bitcoin-btc-2014-texas-bitcoin-conference/

What Is Transparent Forging In NXT (Nextcoin)? - By Tai Zen (Texas Bitcoin Conference)
http://prisonorfreedom.com/what-is-transparent-forging-in-nxt-nextcoin-2014-texas-bitcoin-conference/

Enjoy!
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I didn't donate to "Songs of Love" because it's ridiculous.  There are millions of children who are sick.  Singing to them will do nothing.  How about trying to cure their illness.

wow, sophisticated thought process  Roll Eyes

This is the main reason I didn't donate.

Also, one of the singers was a stripper.  If I had a sick child, I would not want a "former" stripper singing to them.  I'm not going to support that garbage.  They couldn't find a better role model?  Seriously?

That's very judgy of you. Strippers are not the devil, they just dance for money naked. Why are you afraid of the naked female form? And she was a former stripper. Are you saying anyone who ever did anything outside of the box in their life should not be allowed to donate their time to a charity?
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(Could parallel blockchains help?)

I want 1 Million DOGE for bringing up the idea.

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There are no other nodes beyond the firewall can check the slavechain. They would need to rely blindly on the Chinese nodes.

I'm afraid we can't solve problems related to disjoint networks.

I think we can this time.

We can use the SCIP mechanism to let slavechains prove they have proceeded 1440 legitimate blocks.

The only thing that needs to be registered on the masterchain is the counting algorithm for that very slavechain. From that, a verifier key can be obtained.
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Is the issue all about the speed of tx? If we want higher speed we have to use less nodes or hubs with better equipments. If we want lower speed we can have more small nodes running with cheaper equipments. How about security? Which one has more security for the network?

This could be more interesting when we consider the "parallel chains" idea.

Perhaps we can "have our cake and eat it to" by having say an NHS (NXT high speed) parallel chain that is only being forged by powerful hubs capable of handling huge amounts of TPM whilst the main part of the network could be forging standard NXT on low-grade hardware.

Smiley

Like different speed roads, from superhighways down to dirt roads
very nice
I cant imagine bitcoin guys even thinking about doing stuff like this
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If Etherium is such a big deal and the community is more important than the technical advantages, why does Nxt has 2160 pages and Etherium only 74 pages on Bitcointalk.org?
Ethereum is 2 advocacy guys project, Nxt is 1000 random guys project

This is naive as hell... Ethereum got so much more influence than you even want to know

That is because it is backed by major financial institutions.

Which is why they have hired top lawyers, top programmers, top marketing experts etc.
Noone in the real world gives a single fuck that Ethereum isn't a "activist project".

I sincerely hope that isn't the case.

There are some things money cannot buy.

I wish that was the case, but sadly in the real world it isn't ;\
If they provide the best service and tech, then average people (99,9% of the population) wont care one bit of the history involved.
And Ethereum got a lot of activists in it too so it's not like they are 100% synthetic and clinical.


NXT has too much drama, too skewed distribution of NXT, a lot of activists have already abandoned ship and more are doing so soon.
How did the marketing committee get selected? At least 2 of them used dirty tactics to get in the position they are now.

We barely got developers even and soon we lose CfB. This isn't something new, this is something people have known for months now and yet nothing changes. We keep drifting and drifting.
A lot of people learn of NXT, become involved, do great work, get zero pay, get disheartened and leave. Look at how many important people left to NEM. And *finally* NEM is auditing their IPO, so suddenly it'll be 10 times fairer than NXT in terms of distribution.
I have defended NXTs distribution 100 times, but it's clear that the vast majority of big holders are idle for a reason and that reason isn't strategic. (like Pouncer deluded himself to think)

Hopefully the new commitees will help to get us focused a little more. I feel this will be a step in the right direction. I have not been around here very long, but I can see the energy and enthusiasm that is surrounding NXT.  The principals of labor show that the only way to improve on output is through improved technologies that better facilitate the economics of labor and through the improved organizing and structuring of labor. These are the ONLY two ways. I am not trying to say that what anyone has done or is doing is not good; I am saying it could be and needs to be better.
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I just had a bit of an overwhelming meeting with the outside investor.

He is the creator and owner of this/these projects:


https://www.trackprotect.com/
http://www.sustainsound.org/
http://www.rhosmovement.com/

Basically, he wants to use Nxt as a vehicle for his business and to power his system of distributing music.

I just spent two hours talking with him and he is immensely energetic and serious about this.

He sees the potential úse of Nxt and digital property and talks will continue.

From both a marketing perspective as a purely investment perspective, this could be a significant step forward for Nxt!

Music is the #1 attracting factor for users anywhere and we would be tapping into a worldwide userbase with these guys.

Even better is that his development cycle is almost finished already (I saw his already working product) and he is looking for a good "fit".

He is OK with me sharing this, because he wants to be open about his project. Have a look and see what it is all about.
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I don't know if his idea is a good idea. Could we discuss possible routes and the implications for Nxt, please.

In my opinion the concept of TF is mostly a good one (i.e. to get a very large tx throughput) so I would think that the first thing is for the community to decide whether it agrees with that or not (all other decisions really depend upon this one).

If as a community with think it's more important to have people forging with Raspberry Pis then we would be scrapping TF altogether (realistically it is *one or the other* even though marketing people want to have both).

We need high TPS and also support lightweight nodes
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FinCEN getting involved in cryptocurrency is a huge blow to Bitcoin in the US and NXT as well.   If NXT implements NXTcash as a truly anonymous transfer service, we can expect FinCen to arrest James as a terrorist.

I am only partially joking.
will I get internet access from jail?

James is a machine Grin

looking forward to first delivery of that machine Grin

bla bla bla
https://github.com/jl777/multigateway
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Is the issue all about the speed of tx? If we want higher speed we have to use less nodes or hubs with better equipments. If we want lower speed we can have more small nodes running with cheaper equipments. How about security? Which one has more security for the network?

This could be more interesting when we consider the "parallel chains" idea.

Perhaps we can "have our cake and eat it to" by having say an NHS (NXT high speed) parallel chain that is only being forged by powerful hubs capable of handling huge amounts of TPM whilst the main part of the network could be forging standard NXT on low-grade hardware.

Smiley


Interesting idea.
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... the community/early adopters should find a way to cover his (and the other core devs) expenses.
My personal opinion is that 1/3 of unclaimed funds should go for audit/whitepaper, 1/3 for core devs and 1/3 for marketing.
- agree 100% !  No infrastructure committee needed.

Brilliant point in time to start a discussion about the need for infrastructure committee ...  Roll Eyes

In my opinion, not seeing the need for an infrastucture commitee, just because there are right now more pressing issues is extremely short-sighted.

Do we have a good idea about the NXT network?
How many stable nodes do we have? Who operates them and how are they being paid for? Will these nodes still exist in 3, 6, 12 months?
Do we have enough public nodes?
Does anyone remember when we were DDOSed? Are we in danger? How will we react in the future?
Do we have a good testnet to support developers? Long-term? Can we reset the blockchain at community will and still have a stable testnet?
What changes are necessary in the core to make nodes run more effectively and lower the amount of network data?
What changes are necessary in the core to let people run nodes on low tech hard hardware (e.g. solar powered RaspberryPi's - think marketing)


The day will come that NXT will have a NXT infrastructure problem and everyone will cry and scream...


Can we handle 25,000 transactions in 1 hour? 10 minutes?
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Nxt Decentralized Internet video - alfa version:
http://youtu.be/RtTWUwRL9mQ

(created between 20 Feb-8 March)

I would be very grateful for any comments and suggestions. It still needs some time, but it already can be commented

Based on the paper:
http://justpaste.it/decentralized-internet
(created between 12-18 Feb)

And good night, its almost 6 AM here Cheesy

Nice use of theory and reasoning to inspirational ends to provide a backdrop to highlight NXT. It is a daunting task to summarize NXT in such a short time limit; this video does a pretty good job of it. I would suggest putting the bit of the video at the end that serves as the summary at the beginning also, to provide an intro, or provide some sort of intro (tell people what you are going to tell them, tell them, then tell them what you told them). Overall very inspiring, got my attention and made me want to know more. Nice work.
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Usability is KING!

A visitor of Nextcoin.org tells about his experience and why Nxt is difficult to use for newbees. I totally agree with him, usability is more important than futuristic features. How can we solve this problem?

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,4339.new.html


We need a passphrase generator like the one in Electrum, it is naive to expect people know how to create a strong passphrase
openssl rand -base64 44

maybe we can put instructions on how to install openssl?
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