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Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 18, 2021, 02:10:49 AM

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 17, 2021, 10:32:22 PM

Forbes is one of the reputable media channels, although I don't think that they can be considered as any sort of authority in the field of cricket. So I would be more cautious before I confirm this news, preferably from the official ICC website, or from ESPN Cricinfo.

IMO, the number of teams doesn't matter much. If cricket is an Olympic sports, then it will be taken seriously by a lot of the governments around the world. Winning an Olympic medal is considered as close to priceless. And a lot of countries, where cricket is not popular now (China, Korea, Germany, Japan.etc), will give attention to the sport if it is included in the Olympics.

Forbes these days is just what they call ego media. You can pay to get almost anything inside and because most people still think if you're published in Forbes it gives you reputation and credibility. It kinda does, but if you also see some of the crap inside Forbes you might not even want to be associated sometimes:)

Olympics for sure is the way, but maybe cricket takes too long.

I think it is just speculation by Forbes, they are know to create such kind of click bait. They are also not into cricket as much as espn is. It is better to wait and watch what espn has to say about the number of teams.

Forbes is a renowned newspaper. Will they give false or rumored news? Although Forbes does not do much news related to cricket. I agree with @pakhitheboss. ESPN is more credible than Forbes, in the case of sports news.

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Quote from: slaman29 on June 18, 2021, 01:44:49 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on June 17, 2021, 10:32:22 PM

Forbes is one of the reputable media channels, although I don't think that they can be considered as any sort of authority in the field of cricket. So I would be more cautious before I confirm this news, preferably from the official ICC website, or from ESPN Cricinfo.

IMO, the number of teams doesn't matter much. If cricket is an Olympic sports, then it will be taken seriously by a lot of the governments around the world. Winning an Olympic medal is considered as close to priceless. And a lot of countries, where cricket is not popular now (China, Korea, Germany, Japan.etc), will give attention to the sport if it is included in the Olympics.

Forbes these days is just what they call ego media. You can pay to get almost anything inside and because most people still think if you're published in Forbes it gives you reputation and credibility. It kinda does, but if you also see some of the crap inside Forbes you might not even want to be associated sometimes:)

Olympics for sure is the way, but maybe cricket takes too long.

I think it is just speculation by Forbes, they are know to create such kind of click bait. They are also not into cricket as much as espn is. It is better to wait and watch what espn has to say about the number of teams.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 17, 2021, 10:32:22 PM

Forbes is one of the reputable media channels, although I don't think that they can be considered as any sort of authority in the field of cricket. So I would be more cautious before I confirm this news, preferably from the official ICC website, or from ESPN Cricinfo.

IMO, the number of teams doesn't matter much. If cricket is an Olympic sports, then it will be taken seriously by a lot of the governments around the world. Winning an Olympic medal is considered as close to priceless. And a lot of countries, where cricket is not popular now (China, Korea, Germany, Japan.etc), will give attention to the sport if it is included in the Olympics.

Forbes these days is just what they call ego media. You can pay to get almost anything inside and because most people still think if you're published in Forbes it gives you reputation and credibility. It kinda does, but if you also see some of the crap inside Forbes you might not even want to be associated sometimes:)

Olympics for sure is the way, but maybe cricket takes too long.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on June 17, 2021, 07:46:25 AM

Can you share the news link? I want to know the whole news.
But I would be happy if Cricket joins the Olympics. Although the competition is now limited to 8 teams, there is no problem. If joining the Olympics is profitable for cricket, the ICC must consider whether to increase the number of teams later.

I could find a link from Forbes:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tristanlavalette/2021/05/28/indias-t20-cricket-world-cup-set-to-be-moved-while-eight-teams-in-the-olympics-is-preferred/?sh=7e5cbbd6553d

Forbes is one of the reputable media channels, although I don't think that they can be considered as any sort of authority in the field of cricket. So I would be more cautious before I confirm this news, preferably from the official ICC website, or from ESPN Cricinfo.

IMO, the number of teams doesn't matter much. If cricket is an Olympic sports, then it will be taken seriously by a lot of the governments around the world. Winning an Olympic medal is considered as close to priceless. And a lot of countries, where cricket is not popular now (China, Korea, Germany, Japan.etc), will give attention to the sport if it is included in the Olympics.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 17, 2021, 01:36:44 AM

There is some disappointing news coming in. At first I was happy that finally the ICC had taken a positive view on the inclusion of cricket in the Olympics. But now they are saying that the competition will be limited to a total of 8 teams. When the world cup (from 2027 onward) will witness the participation of 14 teams, I was hoping for at least 16-20 teams in the Olympics. This is very disappointing news for the associate nations. The format to be used will be T20, and there was no surprise at least on that aspect.

Can you share the news link? I want to know the whole news.
But I would be happy if Cricket joins the Olympics. Although the competition is now limited to 8 teams, there is no problem. If joining the Olympics is profitable for cricket, the ICC must consider whether to increase the number of teams later.

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There is some disappointing news coming in. At first I was happy that finally the ICC had taken a positive view on the inclusion of cricket in the Olympics. But now they are saying that the competition will be limited to a total of 8 teams. When the world cup (from 2027 onward) will witness the participation of 14 teams, I was hoping for at least 16-20 teams in the Olympics. This is very disappointing news for the associate nations. The format to be used will be T20, and there was no surprise at least on that aspect.

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@Sithara007 technically speaking PCB and ICC have no right to ask money from the sales of those NFT, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they send him a bill asking for their share. Furthermore I’m sure all cricketers will be watching with keen interest how this goes, because if he successfully sells these then many more cricketers will follow suit and start selling their own NFTs.

Not sure about this. The tournament was organized by the ICC. Anything related to the tournament, including video footage, memorabilia.etc belongs to the ICC. I am not saying that Wasim Akram has no right to sell those NFTs, but at least he should seek permission from the ICC. There is no issue in listing an NFT in his name. But this time, he has used one of the global events to brand it. All that said, I am not a big supporter of the NFTs. For me NFTs make no sense. There is nothing called a digital memorabilia. It has to be physical.

I think also technically, they have no rights, unless those photos were theirs (which means they have to prove it). I mean, look at all the past NFTs also from singers doing it, photos that didn't belong to their labels. I know NBA takes "moments" and sells them but that is direct from their footage.

But knowing ICC sure, they will come knocking.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on June 16, 2021, 10:26:23 PM

@Sithara007 technically speaking PCB and ICC have no right to ask money from the sales of those NFT, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they send him a bill asking for their share. Furthermore I’m sure all cricketers will be watching with keen interest how this goes, because if he successfully sells these then many more cricketers will follow suit and start selling their own NFTs.

Not sure about this. The tournament was organized by the ICC. Anything related to the tournament, including video footage, memorabilia.etc belongs to the ICC. I am not saying that Wasim Akram has no right to sell those NFTs, but at least he should seek permission from the ICC. There is no issue in listing an NFT in his name. But this time, he has used one of the global events to brand it. All that said, I am not a big supporter of the NFTs. For me NFTs make no sense. There is nothing called a digital memorabilia. It has to be physical.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 16, 2021, 10:00:37 PM

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So the money he will get from selling his NFT will belong to him and the board will have no share in it ?
This is just like players auctioning their bats or bowl with their signature on it. NFT is the new way of earning money for these players.

Why he need to share it with the board? As long as the NFTs are not approved by the PCB, he doesn't need to share any of the revenues with them. But remember that this is from a global tournament, which was organized by the ICC and the Pakistan team was managed by the PCB. So in a way, he needs the permission from both the boards before doing something like this. But I don't understand the point in owning such NFTs. For antique purposes, you need some physical asset. Digital assets are not suitable for this purpose.

@Sithara007 technically speaking PCB and ICC have no right to ask money from the sales of those NFT, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they send him a bill asking for their share. Furthermore I’m sure all cricketers will be watching with keen interest how this goes, because if he successfully sells these then many more cricketers will follow suit and start selling their own NFTs.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on June 16, 2021, 08:42:56 PM

So the money he will get from selling his NFT will belong to him and the board will have no share in it ?
This is just like players auctioning their bats or bowl with their signature on it. NFT is the new way of earning money for these players.

Why he need to share it with the board? As long as the NFTs are not approved by the PCB, he doesn't need to share any of the revenues with them. But remember that this is from a global tournament, which was organized by the ICC and the Pakistan team was managed by the PCB. So in a way, he needs the permission from both the boards before doing something like this. But I don't understand the point in owning such NFTs. For antique purposes, you need some physical asset. Digital assets are not suitable for this purpose.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on June 16, 2021, 12:11:58 PM

Cricketers now also entering in the NFT world.

That's a good use case for NFTs.

Wasim Akram to auction exclusive NFTs from 1992 World Cup

So the money he will get from selling his NFT will belong to him and the board will have no share in it ?
This is just like players auctioning their bats or bowl with their signature on it. NFT is the new way of earning money for these players.

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Players continue to put franchise cricket above national duty. Previously, the Australian players used to be an exception. But that is no longer the case. A record six Australian players have pulled out of national duty, to keep themselves fit for the IPL. These players are: David Warner, Glenn Maxwell, Kane Richardson, Pat Cummins, Marcus Stoinis and Jhye Richardson. I wouldn't balme them. Because after all cricket is like any other profession and these players need to earn as much as they can when they are fully fit.

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Cricketers now also entering in the NFT world.

That's a good use case for NFTs.

Wasim Akram to auction exclusive NFTs from 1992 World Cup

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Did anyone checked the points table for ICC Men's Cricket World Cup Super League? I know it is a bit early, but South Africa and Sri Lanka remains at the rock bottom (#12 and #13 respectively). Netherlands has moved to the #9 spot, with their two wins over Ireland. The next set of matches is going to be in England, where the hosts will face Sri Lanka. A 3-0 series win for England would mean Sri Lanka remaining at the 13th spot, with England moving up to the top spot (they are in second position now).

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 14, 2021, 05:27:54 AM

Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on June 14, 2021, 04:32:03 AM

Shakib Al Hasan is a bit furious and angry as we have seen in his previous activities. He is independent, he likes to be independent. He was given a 1-year ban, but that is not for match-fixing. He never liked match-fixing. Watching almost every fixing match in the DPL, he was probably too upset, so maybe Oman shouted. Although he did not do well. But as a result, everyone has come to know about the match-fixing of DPL. Indirectly, he has benefited Bangladesh cricket.

The incident seems to have polarized the Bangladesh cricket fans. Now everyone is divided in to two camps. A section believes that Shakib has become too arrogant and crossed the line, and want the BCB to take disciplinary action against him. Another section believes that he has been unfairly victimized and the BCB is making him a scapegoat. IMO, the truth lies somewhere in between. But I have no doubt that the one-year suspension handed out to him earlier was unfair, as he was not involved in any match fixing activity.

If he's a person who wants to keep the game clean, he should have come out of the league with the proof to the media. Anyhow it is upto different users belief, anyhow the recent incident have been much into discussion among the cricket boards all around.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on June 14, 2021, 04:32:03 AM

Shakib Al Hasan is a bit furious and angry as we have seen in his previous activities. He is independent, he likes to be independent. He was given a 1-year ban, but that is not for match-fixing. He never liked match-fixing. Watching almost every fixing match in the DPL, he was probably too upset, so maybe Oman shouted. Although he did not do well. But as a result, everyone has come to know about the match-fixing of DPL. Indirectly, he has benefited Bangladesh cricket.

The incident seems to have polarized the Bangladesh cricket fans. Now everyone is divided in to two camps. A section believes that Shakib has become too arrogant and crossed the line, and want the BCB to take disciplinary action against him. Another section believes that he has been unfairly victimized and the BCB is making him a scapegoat. IMO, the truth lies somewhere in between. But I have no doubt that the one-year suspension handed out to him earlier was unfair, as he was not involved in any match fixing activity.

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The Dhaka Premier League is not being held under the control of BCB. It is an independent league, and therefore the BCB has no direct control over it. So gamblers are getting easy opportunities of match fixing and lots of fixing is happening.

I have a doubt, i understand that these clubs are not under the control of BCB but we were discussing about Shakib Al Hasan getting some penalty and suspension because of his behavior and these players are contracted with BCB and if Shakib Al Hasan is playing many players who are contracted with BCB will be playing as well, so will they allow these players to breach their contract or whether they have special permission to play these games.

Shakib Al Hasan is a bit furious and angry as we have seen in his previous activities. He is independent, he likes to be independent. He was given a 1-year ban, but that is not for match-fixing. He never liked match-fixing. Watching almost every fixing match in the DPL, he was probably too upset, so maybe Oman shouted. Although he did not do well. But as a result, everyone has come to know about the match-fixing of DPL. Indirectly, he has benefited Bangladesh cricket.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on June 13, 2021, 10:41:58 AM

You are right. As far as I know, clubs like Abahani and Mohammedan are older than BCB. These clubs used to play only football, now they play cricket, and maybe even participate in other sports. The Dhaka Premier League is not being held under the control of BCB. It is an independent league, and therefore the BCB has no direct control over it. So gamblers are getting easy opportunities of match fixing and lots of fixing is happening.

The clubs may be quite old, but all the cricketing activity within Bangladesh comes under the purview of the Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB). The DPL may have enjoyed a great degree of autonomy, and may continue to do so in the near future. But if the allegations of match fixing are proven to be true, then the BCB may take away that autonomy or cancel the accreditation for the league. The latter option will destroy the competition, as the national and domestic players will be banned from taking part in any of the matches. So it will be good for them to avoid any direct confrontation with the BCB.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on June 13, 2021, 10:41:58 AM

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The Dhaka Premier League is not being held under the control of BCB. It is an independent league, and therefore the BCB has no direct control over it. So gamblers are getting easy opportunities of match fixing and lots of fixing is happening.

I have a doubt, i understand that these clubs are not under the control of BCB but we were discussing about Shakib Al Hasan getting some penalty and suspension because of his behavior and these players are contracted with BCB and if Shakib Al Hasan is playing many players who are contracted with BCB will be playing as well, so will they allow these players to breach their contract or whether they have special permission to play these games.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 13, 2021, 08:37:11 AM

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The head of Bangladesh cricket board said about match fixing and he wants them to stop, i did not understand the statement, if he is well aware of the match fixing issues in DFL is he reporting them to the ICC as these are serious allegation and that means we will see more suspension and bans because they are not doing their duty of reporting match fixing. I have not seen the tournament yet and with these allegations it is better to stay away from betting.

The clubs taking part in the Dhaka Premier Division Cricket League are independent clubs and not franchises. They have existed for many years, with clubs such as Brothers Union and Abahani Limited dating back to at least 5 decades. They formed the backbone of Bangladesh cricket during the old days. Now with BCB exercising more control over the cricketing structure, many of these clubs are losing their significance. And obviously some of them have resorted to match fixing and other avenues to improve their financial situation.

You are right. As far as I know, clubs like Abahani and Mohammedan are older than BCB. These clubs used to play only football, now they play cricket, and maybe even participate in other sports. The Dhaka Premier League is not being held under the control of BCB. It is an independent league, and therefore the BCB has no direct control over it. So gamblers are getting easy opportunities of match fixing and lots of fixing is happening.

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