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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on June 13, 2021, 07:50:40 AM

The head of Bangladesh cricket board said about match fixing and he wants them to stop, i did not understand the statement, if he is well aware of the match fixing issues in DFL is he reporting them to the ICC as these are serious allegation and that means we will see more suspension and bans because they are not doing their duty of reporting match fixing. I have not seen the tournament yet and with these allegations it is better to stay away from betting.

The clubs taking part in the Dhaka Premier Division Cricket League are independent clubs and not franchises. They have existed for many years, with clubs such as Brothers Union and Abahani Limited dating back to at least 5 decades. They formed the backbone of Bangladesh cricket during the old days. Now with BCB exercising more control over the cricketing structure, many of these clubs are losing their significance. And obviously some of them have resorted to match fixing and other avenues to improve their financial situation.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on June 12, 2021, 11:12:05 PM

And the head of the Bangladesh Cricket Board has said that if the fixing does not stop, he will stop the DFL.

The head of Bangladesh cricket board said about match fixing and he wants them to stop, i did not understand the statement, if he is well aware of the match fixing issues in DFL is he reporting them to the ICC as these are serious allegation and that means we will see more suspension and bans because they are not doing their duty of reporting match fixing. I have not seen the tournament yet and with these allegations it is better to stay away from betting.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on June 12, 2021, 11:12:05 PM

I have talked to some cricket fans in Bangladesh. They are not happy with the 3-match ban on Shakib Al Hasan. But they have been happy with Shakib's behavior. Because of this, everyone will know about the corruption and match-fixing in domestic cricket. And the head of the Bangladesh Cricket Board has said that if the fixing does not stop, he will stop the DFL.

Time has come to cut down the Dhaka Premier League (DPL) to size. I don't know why the BCB is giving so much importance to a club competition in just one city. Instead they should focus their resources to improve the Bangladesh Premier League (BPL). I agree that DPL was the premier competition when Bangladesh was an associate nation. But now they have got test status and therefore need to move to a regional domestic competition, where all the major regions are represented and not just Dhaka.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on June 12, 2021, 06:11:43 PM

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Has anyone seen this news? During the match, Shakib Al Hasan got angry with the umpire and kicked the stumps. Such action during the match is very unfair and he banned for the next three matches and finned around ~$5800. But there are rumors that umpires in the DPL are involved in match-fixing so players are furious with them.

I was not aware of DPL going on when PSL resumed, i thought Shakib Al Hasan had these issues in the PSL which is conducted in the UAE and it is always a prime spot for match fixing. It looks like Shakib Al Hasan keeps on getting into trouble all the time, he is back after a one year suspension and now he is suspended for showing aggression again umpires Grin

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For showing frustration you get 3 match suspension and what kind of suspension you get if you slap someone out of frustration Cheesy

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I have talked to some cricket fans in Bangladesh. They are not happy with the 3-match ban on Shakib Al Hasan. But they have been happy with Shakib's behavior. Because of this, everyone will know about the corruption and match-fixing in domestic cricket. And the head of the Bangladesh Cricket Board has said that if the fixing does not stop, he will stop the DFL.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on June 12, 2021, 06:03:03 PM

ECB was controlling the ICC for a long time and they will be angry that they need to share the power with other countries and if cricket became popular in other countries i am not sure these power houses will be angry so that their control over the board will get slimmer. Not sure why it is hard for them to push for Olympic inclusion other than financial reasons or the lack of financial gain for the ICC by including cricket in Olympics.

In the course of time, obviously their power will get diluted. In the near future more countries will get test status and the number of board members will increase. And there is nothing that they can do about it. Furthermore, the ECB has a habit of punching above their weight. Their share and influence on the ICC revenues is not that high(unlike the case with India, which contributes to >50% of the revenues). But they have always tried to dictate the ICC policies, by forming a cabal with the BCCI, CA and CNZ. But now with the BCCI in hands of Ganguly, this plan is not working for them.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on June 12, 2021, 06:11:43 PM

Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on June 12, 2021, 12:13:40 PM

Has anyone seen this news? During the match, Shakib Al Hasan got angry with the umpire and kicked the stumps. Such action during the match is very unfair and he banned for the next three matches and finned around ~$5800. But there are rumors that umpires in the DPL are involved in match-fixing so players are furious with them.

I was not aware of DPL going on when PSL resumed, i thought Shakib Al Hasan had these issues in the PSL which is conducted in the UAE and it is always a prime spot for match fixing. It looks like Shakib Al Hasan keeps on getting into trouble all the time, he is back after a one year suspension and now he is suspended for showing aggression again umpires Grin

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For showing frustration you get 3 match suspension and what kind of suspension you get if you slap someone out of frustration Cheesy

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Shakib Al Hasan used to break atmosphere of match out of his frustration, being charged couple of times until now. Absolutely Shakib Al Hasan won't give up showcase his misconduct anytime soon, though every time some strict action has been taken. Anyway, we have been hearing about the alleged massive corruption in the ongoing DPL, this should also be investigated.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on June 12, 2021, 12:13:40 PM

Has anyone seen this news? During the match, Shakib Al Hasan got angry with the umpire and kicked the stumps. Such action during the match is very unfair and he banned for the next three matches and finned around ~$5800. But there are rumors that umpires in the DPL are involved in match-fixing so players are furious with them.

I was not aware of DPL going on when PSL resumed, i thought Shakib Al Hasan had these issues in the PSL which is conducted in the UAE and it is always a prime spot for match fixing. It looks like Shakib Al Hasan keeps on getting into trouble all the time, he is back after a one year suspension and now he is suspended for showing aggression again umpires Grin

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For showing frustration you get 3 match suspension and what kind of suspension you get if you slap someone out of frustration Cheesy

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 06, 2021, 10:43:27 PM

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The reason once put forward by the ECB chief was that if there is a cricket tournament within the Olympics, then the popularity of the ICC world cup may get impacted. Now BCCI has changed their stance and they support the inclusion of cricket in the Olympics (one of the moves made by Ganguly after he became the BCCI head). But ECB and CA (and CNZ) remains opposed to the Olympic inclusion of cricket. Among these three boards, I would say that the ECB has been more consistent with their approach. For the last 5 decades or so, they have opposed measures to popularize cricket.

ECB was controlling the ICC for a long time and they will be angry that they need to share the power with other countries and if cricket became popular in other countries i am not sure these power houses will be angry so that their control over the board will get slimmer. Not sure why it is hard for them to push for Olympic inclusion other than financial reasons or the lack of financial gain for the ICC by including cricket in Olympics.

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Has anyone seen this news? During the match, Shakib Al Hasan got angry with the umpire and kicked the stumps. Such action during the match is very unfair and he banned for the next three matches and finned around ~$5800. But there are rumors that umpires in the DPL are involved in match-fixing so players are furious with them.

source- https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/dhaka-premier-division-shakib-al-hasan-gets-three-match-ban-for-dpl-outburst-1266185

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on June 06, 2021, 05:48:51 PM

The reason might be the powerful cricket boards are not willing to send the players to the Olympics, the ODI and Test format are simply not possible but the T20 version is the perfect one to be played in the Olympics and it is over a decade we are conducting the T20 World Cup and it is time that they involve cricket in the biggest stage of all time.

The reason once put forward by the ECB chief was that if there is a cricket tournament within the Olympics, then the popularity of the ICC world cup may get impacted. Now BCCI has changed their stance and they support the inclusion of cricket in the Olympics (one of the moves made by Ganguly after he became the BCCI head). But ECB and CA (and CNZ) remains opposed to the Olympic inclusion of cricket. Among these three boards, I would say that the ECB has been more consistent with their approach. For the last 5 decades or so, they have opposed measures to popularize cricket.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 06, 2021, 07:51:13 AM

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The thinking from the ICC is different. For them, there is no need to make cricket more popular.

The reason might be the powerful cricket boards are not willing to send the players to the Olympics, the ODI and Test format are simply not possible but the T20 version is the perfect one to be played in the Olympics and it is over a decade we are conducting the T20 World Cup and it is time that they involve cricket in the biggest stage of all time.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on June 06, 2021, 07:33:26 AM

They will get the sponsors if the people gravitate towards cricket and including cricket in the Olympics is the first step and then it might take over a decade for it to attract the fans, so it is going to be a long process. The reason Indian cricket is rich with huge sponsors is because they have a huge population who follow the matches and it is a huge marketing opportunity for the sponsors and when other countries reach that level that they can also reap the same benefits.

There is a reason why the most popular sport in the world (Football) is a part of the Olympics. FIFA could easily say that the football world cup is more popular than the Olympics and therefore they don't want to participate. But they have never raised any such objections. On the other hand, they have actually encouraged teams to participate in the Olympic Games. Some of the best footballers in the world have taken part in the Olympic Games. In the end, FIFA realizes that it is an ideal opportunity to grow the sport. The thinking from the ICC is different. For them, there is no need to make cricket more popular.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on June 06, 2021, 06:07:37 AM

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The intervention from the Olympic Association will be once in 4 years but it will be an intervention on the independence of the cricket boards. Which no cricket board would want. But if the Cricket will be included in the Olympics, the boards will benefit a lot by financially. They can make a lot of money from sponsors and TV broadcasters.

They will get the sponsors if the people gravitate towards cricket and including cricket in the Olympics is the first step and then it might take over a decade for it to attract the fans, so it is going to be a long process. The reason Indian cricket is rich with huge sponsors is because they have a huge population who follow the matches and it is a huge marketing opportunity for the sponsors and when other countries reach that level that they can also reap the same benefits.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on June 06, 2021, 06:07:37 AM

The intervention from the Olympic Association will be once in 4 years but it will be an intervention on the independence of the cricket boards. Which no cricket board would want. But if the Cricket will be included in the Olympics, the boards will benefit a lot by financially. They can make a lot of money from sponsors and TV broadcasters.

In case of the BCCI, they have already received assurance from the government that even of cricket is included in the Olympics, there will be no interference from the Indian Olympic Association. I guess the situation will be same with the other boards as well. And regarding the second part of your post, larger boards such as the BCCI will hardly see any financial benefit. The Indian government is not going to allocate any extra funding for them. The benefits will be limited to the smaller boards.

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There was a chance to apply for Olympic inclusion, but the ICC refused to do that for the 2028 Olympics. The next opportunity would come at 2032. It is very unfortunate. Actually it was Jagmohan Dalmiya who first attempted to get cricket included in the Olympic Games. He was aiming for the 2012 Olympics, but before he could achieve his objective he was thrown out as the ICC president. After that for almost 15 years the ICC and BCCI was under the control of the mafia. Two precious decades have been lost and in terms of popularity cricket has lost out to smaller sports such as hockey and rugby in the meantime.

@Vishnu.Reang I doubt we’ll ever see cricket in Olympics, because the big teams will not allow their revenues to be split by participating in Olympics. Furthermore I don’t really see the need for cricket to be part of Olympics, because it has fans all over the world now, hence I feel ICC won’t prioritise it ever.

The big boards will never want to include cricket in the Olympics. Because of this, the Olympic Association of each country will try to exercise its power over the cricket team. And at some point cricket boards will become almost inactive. Boards like England, South Africa and Australia will never want cricket to participate in the Olympics.

Your point of view is right. The big cricket boards like indian or English, will definitely want to maintain their dominance over cricket. But if cricket is played on a platform like the Olympics, people all over the world will get to know cricket better and become more interested about this game. If the teams had the opportunity to participate in the Olympics without joining the country's Olympic Association, the boards might have become interested tojoin in the Olympic game.

Olympics will bring more exposure to cricket than any other event. Every cricket board would also benefits as it will bring in more revenue from the sponsors. I do not see the point why these big boards will not allow cricket to be added to Olympics, they know such exposure would help them in the future. Interference from the Olympics association will be once in 4 years, the rest of the time these boards will be controlling the games.

The intervention from the Olympic Association will be once in 4 years but it will be an intervention on the independence of the cricket boards. Which no cricket board would want. But if the Cricket will be included in the Olympics, the boards will benefit a lot by financially. They can make a lot of money from sponsors and TV broadcasters.

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That is a dream I guess, I have not head anything now. There were some news about adding cricket in Olympics last year. If it happens it will be in next Olympic. ICC and other powerful board must support this cause. If it gets added then many countries will start adopting cricket.

There was a chance to apply for Olympic inclusion, but the ICC refused to do that for the 2028 Olympics. The next opportunity would come at 2032. It is very unfortunate. Actually it was Jagmohan Dalmiya who first attempted to get cricket included in the Olympic Games. He was aiming for the 2012 Olympics, but before he could achieve his objective he was thrown out as the ICC president. After that for almost 15 years the ICC and BCCI was under the control of the mafia. Two precious decades have been lost and in terms of popularity cricket has lost out to smaller sports such as hockey and rugby in the meantime.

@Vishnu.Reang I doubt we’ll ever see cricket in Olympics, because the big teams will not allow their revenues to be split by participating in Olympics. Furthermore I don’t really see the need for cricket to be part of Olympics, because it has fans all over the world now, hence I feel ICC won’t prioritise it ever.

The big boards will never want to include cricket in the Olympics. Because of this, the Olympic Association of each country will try to exercise its power over the cricket team. And at some point cricket boards will become almost inactive. Boards like England, South Africa and Australia will never want cricket to participate in the Olympics.

Your point of view is right. The big cricket boards like indian or English, will definitely want to maintain their dominance over cricket. But if cricket is played on a platform like the Olympics, people all over the world will get to know cricket better and become more interested about this game. If the teams had the opportunity to participate in the Olympics without joining the country's Olympic Association, the boards might have become interested tojoin in the Olympic game.

Olympics will bring more exposure to cricket than any other event. Every cricket board would also benefits as it will bring in more revenue from the sponsors. I do not see the point why these big boards will not allow cricket to be added to Olympics, they know such exposure would help them in the future. Interference from the Olympics association will be once in 4 years, the rest of the time these boards will be controlling the games.

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The third and final match of the Netherlands vs Ireland ODI series will be played tomorrow. Both the teams have one win each, and the winner of the third match will win the series. Don't forget that this match is a part of the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup Super League. For each match, the winner will be receiving 10 points. Ireland is currently at the 9th place with 20 points from 8 matches, while Netherlands is just behind with 10 points from two matches. Ireland will be taking on South Africa next month, while Netherlands will be facing South Africa in September.

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That is a dream I guess, I have not head anything now. There were some news about adding cricket in Olympics last year. If it happens it will be in next Olympic. ICC and other powerful board must support this cause. If it gets added then many countries will start adopting cricket.

There was a chance to apply for Olympic inclusion, but the ICC refused to do that for the 2028 Olympics. The next opportunity would come at 2032. It is very unfortunate. Actually it was Jagmohan Dalmiya who first attempted to get cricket included in the Olympic Games. He was aiming for the 2012 Olympics, but before he could achieve his objective he was thrown out as the ICC president. After that for almost 15 years the ICC and BCCI was under the control of the mafia. Two precious decades have been lost and in terms of popularity cricket has lost out to smaller sports such as hockey and rugby in the meantime.

@Vishnu.Reang I doubt we’ll ever see cricket in Olympics, because the big teams will not allow their revenues to be split by participating in Olympics. Furthermore I don’t really see the need for cricket to be part of Olympics, because it has fans all over the world now, hence I feel ICC won’t prioritise it ever.

The big boards will never want to include cricket in the Olympics. Because of this, the Olympic Association of each country will try to exercise its power over the cricket team. And at some point cricket boards will become almost inactive. Boards like England, South Africa and Australia will never want cricket to participate in the Olympics.

Your point of view is right. The big cricket boards like indian or English, will definitely want to maintain their dominance over cricket. But if cricket is played on a platform like the Olympics, people all over the world will get to know cricket better and become more interested about this game. If the teams had the opportunity to participate in the Olympics without joining the country's Olympic Association, the boards might have become interested tojoin in the Olympic game.

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That is a dream I guess, I have not head anything now. There were some news about adding cricket in Olympics last year. If it happens it will be in next Olympic. ICC and other powerful board must support this cause. If it gets added then many countries will start adopting cricket.

There was a chance to apply for Olympic inclusion, but the ICC refused to do that for the 2028 Olympics. The next opportunity would come at 2032. It is very unfortunate. Actually it was Jagmohan Dalmiya who first attempted to get cricket included in the Olympic Games. He was aiming for the 2012 Olympics, but before he could achieve his objective he was thrown out as the ICC president. After that for almost 15 years the ICC and BCCI was under the control of the mafia. Two precious decades have been lost and in terms of popularity cricket has lost out to smaller sports such as hockey and rugby in the meantime.

@Vishnu.Reang I doubt we’ll ever see cricket in Olympics, because the big teams will not allow their revenues to be split by participating in Olympics. Furthermore I don’t really see the need for cricket to be part of Olympics, because it has fans all over the world now, hence I feel ICC won’t prioritise it ever.

The big boards will never want to include cricket in the Olympics. Because of this, the Olympic Association of each country will try to exercise its power over the cricket team. And at some point cricket boards will become almost inactive. Boards like England, South Africa and Australia will never want cricket to participate in the Olympics.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 03, 2021, 04:38:17 AM

That is a dream I guess, I have not head anything now. There were some news about adding cricket in Olympics last year. If it happens it will be in next Olympic. ICC and other powerful board must support this cause. If it gets added then many countries will start adopting cricket.

There was a chance to apply for Olympic inclusion, but the ICC refused to do that for the 2028 Olympics. The next opportunity would come at 2032. It is very unfortunate. Actually it was Jagmohan Dalmiya who first attempted to get cricket included in the Olympic Games. He was aiming for the 2012 Olympics, but before he could achieve his objective he was thrown out as the ICC president. After that for almost 15 years the ICC and BCCI was under the control of the mafia. Two precious decades have been lost and in terms of popularity cricket has lost out to smaller sports such as hockey and rugby in the meantime.

@Vishnu.Reang I doubt we’ll ever see cricket in Olympics, because the big teams will not allow their revenues to be split by participating in Olympics. Furthermore I don’t really see the need for cricket to be part of Olympics, because it has fans all over the world now, hence I feel ICC won’t prioritise it ever.

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