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Sam Curran is not a player who should play at number 8 because in IPL he was coming at number 3, 4 and 5 and got great success to the team and individually even though CSK didn't make it into playoffs. So they should give a balancing team instead of including every batsman who may not fit into that batting position.

I agree. Curran needs to bat either at no.6 or a position above that. The England middle order (especially Buttler, Morgan.etc) failed pathetically during the Indian tour. They could have given an opportunity for Curran to bat higher up the order. Anyway, now the tour is finished and he will be concentrating on the IPL. And I am sure that the CSK management is not stupid enough to waste his batting skills by demoting him to no.8 or no.9.
I am expecting him to bat at number 5 position because Raina is back into CSK so he is the best ever batsmen at that position for CSK all the time and number 4 will be Rayudu so Curran at 5 and Dhoni at 6 will be good for destructive death overs for sure and more to add that left and right combo will work and shatter the bowlers line which has been missing in CSK last year due to the absence of Raina.
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Sam Curran is not a player who should play at number 8 because in IPL he was coming at number 3, 4 and 5 and got great success to the team and individually even though CSK didn't make it into playoffs. So they should give a balancing team instead of including every batsman who may not fit into that batting position.

I agree. Curran needs to bat either at no.6 or a position above that. The England middle order (especially Buttler, Morgan.etc) failed pathetically during the Indian tour. They could have given an opportunity for Curran to bat higher up the order. Anyway, now the tour is finished and he will be concentrating on the IPL. And I am sure that the CSK management is not stupid enough to waste his batting skills by demoting him to no.8 or no.9.
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In the end, no one remembers about such an innings. He even failed to get himself a century. According to the records, India managed to beat England by 7 runs. How they managed to do that is inconsequential. I would say that it was another close match, which England failed to finish properly. The target was not that far for England. With 3 overs remaining, they needed 27 runs. But two tight overs from Hardik and Bhuvneshwar changed the course of the match, before Natarajan finished it.
The England selectors and the team will remember the innings Sam Curran played and that will boost their lower order batting strength and it shows that even if the middle order fails they have depth in the batting line up who could challenge any team and with T20 World cup played in India it will give the selectors an option to pick him in the squad.
Sam Curran is not a player who should play at number 8 because in IPL he was coming at number 3, 4 and 5 and got great success to the team and individually even though CSK didn't make it into playoffs. So they should give a balancing team instead of including every batsman who may not fit into that batting position.
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In the end, no one remembers about such an innings. He even failed to get himself a century. According to the records, India managed to beat England by 7 runs. How they managed to do that is inconsequential. I would say that it was another close match, which England failed to finish properly. The target was not that far for England. With 3 overs remaining, they needed 27 runs. But two tight overs from Hardik and Bhuvneshwar changed the course of the match, before Natarajan finished it.
The England selectors and the team will remember the innings Sam Curran played and that will boost their lower order batting strength and it shows that even if the middle order fails they have depth in the batting line up who could challenge any team and with T20 World cup played in India it will give the selectors an option to pick him in the squad.
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In the end, no one remembers about such an innings. He even failed to get himself a century. According to the records, India managed to beat England by 7 runs. How they managed to do that is inconsequential. I would say that it was another close match, which England failed to finish properly.
Nonsense. Many people including me will always remember how Curran heroically played till the end for his country. This was his first ODI 50 and it would have been his first ODI 100 too though he sadly fell short.

Dismissing his effort and calling India's close win inconsequential is pure stupidity. This is a rare occasion where a bowler almost won the decider for his country which is why it will always be remembered.

Statistically, the margin of victory doesn't matter. Whether you lose by 80 runs or 8 runs, it's the same outcome. Eventually Indian bowlers held their nerve during the last three overs and managed to win the match (and thereby the series). What is the point in putting up such a tough fight, if he can't finish it? The 9th wicket partnership between Mark Wood and Sam Curran was worth 60 runs. If they had scored another 20 runs, then England could have won the match. Also, let's not forget the fact that Mark Wood was run out, after Sam Curran slipped and fell down in his attempt to return to strike.
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In the end, no one remembers about such an innings. He even failed to get himself a century. According to the records, India managed to beat England by 7 runs. How they managed to do that is inconsequential. I would say that it was another close match, which England failed to finish properly.
Nonsense. Many people including me will always remember how Curran heroically played till the end for his country. This was his first ODI 50 and it would have been his first ODI 100 too though he sadly fell short.

Dismissing his effort and calling India's close win inconsequential is pure stupidity. This is a rare occasion where a bowler almost won the decider for his country which is why it will always be remembered.
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It was just 8 more runs away, however what a spectaculous performance that was from Sam Curran. That heroic inning will never be forgotten. Such an amazing series it has been. Well played both teams, congrats India on winning the ODI series.

In the end, no one remembers about such an innings. He even failed to get himself a century. According to the records, India managed to beat England by 7 runs. How they managed to do that is inconsequential. I would say that it was another close match, which England failed to finish properly. The target was not that far for England. With 3 overs remaining, they needed 27 runs. But two tight overs from Hardik and Bhuvneshwar changed the course of the match, before Natarajan finished it.
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It was just 8 more runs away, however what a spectaculous performance that was from Sam Curran. That heroic inning will never be forgotten. Such an amazing series it has been. Well played both teams, congrats India on winning the ODI series.
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Big respect to Sam Curran and his fighting spirit until the end. Why has Indian fielding suddenly gone so abysmal out of the blue? We have so many youngsters in the line up and everyone expects the to be very athletic and have safe pair of hands..seems to be the opposite at the moment.
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Lord Thakur : Clueless Thakur towards the end. He ended up giving 18 runs and dropped an easy catch. Several players dropped catches from the Indian side which is why England was quite lucky to get so close to the target.

Sam Curran deserved a century. What a player! Also, India basically completed a trifecta of series wins.
Thats true, Thakur giving 18 runs for the final over is really big. This has made him have more confidence on the last over. The first ball run out could've made him go for an Yorker on the next ball. New batsman gave strike to Sam Curran taking a run. Here Natarajan played good cricket with his Yorker and made two balls without runs. Fifth ball went for a four and the last ball without a run. Finally he took India win the match.
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Lord Thakur : Clueless Thakur towards the end. He ended up giving 18 runs and dropped an easy catch. Several players dropped catches from the Indian side which is why England was quite lucky to get so close to the target.

Sam Curran deserved a century. What a player! Also, India basically completed a trifecta of series wins.
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India won the match by 7 runs. As I posted earlier, if the target was 10-15 runs lower, then England had a chance. All credit to Natarajan, who bowled an exceptional 50th over. Sam Curran batted exceptionally, but in the end he ran out of partners. The series ends for England, and they have lost in all the three formats. Test series by 1-3, T20I series by 2-3, and the ODI series by 1-2. But there are definitely some positives to take away.
With the run rate India had i thought they fell short of 30 odd runs and the match became really close with Sam Curran playing the innings of his life time, even though he produced some great performance in the IPL he never did that kind of performance in the England colors and this was an outstanding innings when their top order failed and the last three overs from India was spot on and India winning all the formats.
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India won the match by 7 runs. As I posted earlier, if the target was 10-15 runs lower, then England had a chance. All credit to Natarajan, who bowled an exceptional 50th over. Sam Curran batted exceptionally, but in the end he ran out of partners. The series ends for England, and they have lost in all the three formats. Test series by 1-3, T20I series by 2-3, and the ODI series by 1-2. But there are definitely some positives to take away.
Good to see the prediction come true. Throughout the series every match looked like a do or die match. It has happened with test format, T20 and now with ODI. As said, there is more positives. This experience will help both the teams play good cricket in the upcoming days. As said upcoming IPL is waiting for Sam Curran. Cheesy
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India won the match by 7 runs. As I posted earlier, if the target was 10-15 runs lower, then England had a chance. All credit to Natarajan, who bowled an exceptional 50th over. Sam Curran batted exceptionally, but in the end he ran out of partners. The series ends for England, and they have lost in all the three formats. Test series by 1-3, T20I series by 2-3, and the ODI series by 1-2. But there are definitely some positives to take away.
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48 runs needed from 30 balls (5 overs). I stopped watching 2 hrs back, as I had to attend to a family emergency. And when I was back I was really surprised to see the scoreboard. I was expecting that the match would have got finished by the time I got back. Sam Curran is playing an exceptional innings right now. He gave hope to England, when it looked as if India had everything under control. If target was 10-15 runs lower, then England actually had a chance.
I'm sure, this match is going to be a win for England. 22 runs from 17 balls will be easily taken by Sam Curran. Possibly he'll score 100, and now the win probability of England have reached 40%, earlier it went as low as 2%
Oh what a match this is turning out to be. India are trying to their best but the Bhuvi doesn't looks a lot in form today. All eyes are now on Natrajan he is the only hope that India has. If India isn't able to take a wicket in this over most probably the game would be very much over until the last over. Let's see what Natrajan brings on table for us. About the last over will it be Pandya or Prasiddh Krishna? A big dilema for Kohli.
Whoever the bowler, this match is not for India. If this was supposed to be a win, it could've happened earlier. If not the wicket of Maekwood could've happened, but on the review England is Successful. So, the match has gone to their side, only possibility is to keep Sam Curran out of strike which is really a tough thing to concentrate at this close match situation.
Oh no a  two back to back dropped catches by Lord Thakur and then by Natrajan. The one by Natrajan was more crucial it was Sam Curran below. Poor fielding at such a crucial moment. That's really unbelievable. I think the inexperience of these pressure situations can be clearly seen in the fielding. But yes the game is going in the last over which means all eyes will be on Nattu to save the game.
4 balls left and one wicket remaining for England. Sam Curran on strike. Just two sixes will end the match. As Natarajan is bowling, only hope his Yorker. If he's successful it might help in the winning. Lets wait and see the result within few minutes.
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48 runs needed from 30 balls (5 overs). I stopped watching 2 hrs back, as I had to attend to a family emergency. And when I was back I was really surprised to see the scoreboard. I was expecting that the match would have got finished by the time I got back. Sam Curran is playing an exceptional innings right now. He gave hope to England, when it looked as if India had everything under control. If target was 10-15 runs lower, then England actually had a chance.
I'm sure, this match is going to be a win for England. 22 runs from 17 balls will be easily taken by Sam Curran. Possibly he'll score 100, and now the win probability of England have reached 40%, earlier it went as low as 2%
Oh what a match this is turning out to be. India are trying to their best but the Bhuvi doesn't looks a lot in form today. All eyes are now on Natrajan he is the only hope that India has. If India isn't able to take a wicket in this over most probably the game would be very much over until the last over. Let's see what Natrajan brings on table for us. About the last over will it be Pandya or Prasiddh Krishna? A big dilema for Kohli.
Whoever the bowler, this match is not for India. If this was supposed to be a win, it could've happened earlier. If not the wicket of Maekwood could've happened, but on the review England is Successful. So, the match has gone to their side, only possibility is to keep Sam Curran out of strike which is really a tough thing to concentrate at this close match situation.
Oh no a  two back to back dropped catches by Lord Thakur and then by Natrajan. The one by Natrajan was more crucial it was Sam Curran below. Poor fielding at such a crucial moment. That's really unbelievable. I think the inexperience of these pressure situations can be clearly seen in the fielding. But yes the game is going in the last over which means all eyes will be on Nattu to save the game.
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48 runs needed from 30 balls (5 overs). I stopped watching 2 hrs back, as I had to attend to a family emergency. And when I was back I was really surprised to see the scoreboard. I was expecting that the match would have got finished by the time I got back. Sam Curran is playing an exceptional innings right now. He gave hope to England, when it looked as if India had everything under control. If target was 10-15 runs lower, then England actually had a chance.
I'm sure, this match is going to be a win for England. 22 runs from 17 balls will be easily taken by Sam Curran. Possibly he'll score 100, and now the win probability of England have reached 40%, earlier it went as low as 2%
Oh what a match this is turning out to be. India are trying to their best but the Bhuvi doesn't looks a lot in form today. All eyes are now on Natrajan he is the only hope that India has. If India isn't able to take a wicket in this over most probably the game would be very much over until the last over. Let's see what Natrajan brings on table for us. About the last over will it be Pandya or Prasiddh Krishna? A big dilema for Kohli.
Whoever the bowler, this match is not for India. If this was supposed to be a win, it could've happened earlier. If not the wicket of Maekwood could've happened, but on the review England is Successful. So, the match has gone to their side, only possibility is to keep Sam Curran out of strike which is really a tough thing to concentrate at this close match situation.
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Hardik Pandya bowling the 49th over and therefore it is going to be Natarajan for the 50th over (if 50th over is required). Kohli made the right choice here as he is going to one of his best and most economical bowler for the 49th over. But the advantage for India here is that now Mark Wood is on strike, with 18 runs needed from 10 balls. Hardik needs to take two wickets from his remaining 4 balls.

Oh.. boy... Mark Wood just dropped by Shardul Thakur, and the strike goes to Sam Curran. It was the easiest of the catches..
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48 runs needed from 30 balls (5 overs). I stopped watching 2 hrs back, as I had to attend to a family emergency. And when I was back I was really surprised to see the scoreboard. I was expecting that the match would have got finished by the time I got back. Sam Curran is playing an exceptional innings right now. He gave hope to England, when it looked as if India had everything under control. If target was 10-15 runs lower, then England actually had a chance.
I'm sure, this match is going to be a win for England. 22 runs from 17 balls will be easily taken by Sam Curran. Possibly he'll score 100, and now the win probability of England have reached 40%, earlier it went as low as 2%
Oh what a match this is turning out to be. India are trying to their best but the Bhuvi doesn't looks a lot in form today. All eyes are now on Natrajan he is the only hope that India has. If India isn't able to take a wicket in this over most probably the game would be very much over until the last over. Let's see what Natrajan brings on table for us. About the last over will it be Pandya or Prasiddh Krishna? A big dilema for Kohli.

Edit: oh oh it's Hardik Pandya first. Is it because Pandya is a better and experienced option than Kohli or does he wants to save Natrajan for the last over? Two balls have been pretty peaceful so far.
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48 runs needed from 30 balls (5 overs). I stopped watching 2 hrs back, as I had to attend to a family emergency. And when I was back I was really surprised to see the scoreboard. I was expecting that the match would have got finished by the time I got back. Sam Curran is playing an exceptional innings right now. He gave hope to England, when it looked as if India had everything under control. If target was 10-15 runs lower, then England actually had a chance.
I'm sure, this match is going to be a win for England. 22 runs from 17 balls will be easily taken by Sam Curran. Possibly he'll score 100, and now the win probability of England have reached 40%, earlier it went as low as 2%
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