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A Big Shocking News!

MS Dhoni announced his retirement via his instagram

Source: https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/ms-dhoni-announces-retirement-from-international-cricket/story-vlFfrbT21FWo9RZUZlzh9K.html

Honestly it is a really shocking news for the cricket lovers in India even for the whole world because he got fans from all around the world, so no more blue jersy on MSD and only Yellow love from now on.

You are expecting too much from the ICC, they are not NGO.  . Take this for an example, almost everyone wants to see 16+ team participation in the World Cup but ICC not even thinking about it.

If that's the case then obvious argument is -We as a cricket fan shouldn't bitch about competitiveness much-.

Yeah, it is pretty complicated for sure and I do not think fans want a complicated cricket format but, we need to wait and see how it works on the field.

Pakistan can win but they need to be more focused this time. They need to rethink their strategy for the second half.

We have discussed this earlier but the ICC should take this into account, as cricket fans is it possible to forward proposals through their official channels if so we can start signing petition and sending these group system so that they would consider when they really understand the need for change according to the rankings rather than putting lower ranked teams against top teams.

On a side note if there was a group system we would never see West Indies or Pakistan and England and these cricket boards will revolt against the group system because most of the teams want the top teams to play against these teams to get business and since cricket is business oriented it is highly unlikely we will see that happening and West Indies board recently proposed England to tour West Indies and return the favor for visiting them when every team was taking a break.

India Pakistan series might not happen in the near future but what i was trying to tell is that when ever they play it was a blockbuster viewership.
Australia and New Zealand is popular but the population they have is not huge compared to Asian countries and hence we cannot compare the viewership and hence the lack of hype here, if you watch the old matches in West Indies every series was a carnival like situation even though the players in the squad are from different countries.

Cricket itself is very complicated sport so i don't really buy this "complicated" argument. Sample data is very small atm as it was just an exhibition game. We need more games of 3TC so that we can analysis pros and cons.

I watched it and IMO it was bit boring at start may be because of empty stadium but after couple of overs it was enjoyable.

Pakistan is unpredictable team so you never know but if they are batting second then they have less than 5% chance of winning the match as they suck at chasing, even small target.

Now PCB already announces they already closed this chapter they never request India to Play against Pakistan because its nothing serious business both teams doing their own commitments with other teams and have some good cricket its enough for these both dirty politics and politicians giving bad out come here in Sub Continent so good thing this is now end from both sides.

A series between India and Pakistan is not going to happen, at least for the next 2-3 decades. So for now we can ignore that scenario. I am not denying the fact that a lot of bad blood exists between Australia and New Zealand. But when these two teams play against each other, not much hype is generated outside Oceania. On the other hand, the Ashes and the Border Gavaskar Trophy attracts attention from all over the world.

For me its very difficult for Pakistan to fight back even they are unpredictable and able to do these things but after losing first test very poorly they have very few chances to fight back and level this series team management need to do some work on players as they try to play like a team not individualy because its not going helping them.

Its kind of more complicated to understand and I don't think it will be used in the international tournaments.

Pakistan's tour of ENG second test will be on 13th Aug, Do you think Pakistan has any chance to give comback performance after their lost in the first math.

Here you go fellas....

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If "Doing great" means "Audience in the Stadium"  then India which is one the BIG-3 country. Its not doing great as well, will not go into details as we already knows , why?. Only positive thing about Test cricket in India is, National and domestic teams /players takes test cricket seriously, especially Indian skipper Virat Kohli. SENA countries doing okay as far as spectators in stadium are concern despite their performances.

ICC WTC is not some magic spell, i agree results are not promising for smaller countries but its honest initiative and might take some time to kick off IMO.

In current situation, i would like to see Group system in the Test Cricket.

Group A : Top 6 teams
Group B : Bottom 6 teams

Replace bottom teams (4 and 5 5 and 6) from Group A > with topper teams ( 7 and 8 ) of Group B. After every FTP cycle.

Here is link about this new format https://www.news24.com/sport/cricket/proteas/everything-you-need-to-know-about-csas-3-team-cricket-20200617

Not sure how the game rules works in 3 squad match, Actually I just saw the title somewhere but missed to read the article, if anyone found that on internet please leave the link here.

For international standards decreasing the overs to 10 will not be a right things because the match will become like a street cricket and not much of contribution from every player in the squads.

That is a fact, i am not expecting new countries to embrace Test cricket and i will be surprised if a new team will be added after Afghanistan and they might be the last team to get Test status. ICC should focus on the shorter format to introduce to new countries rather than forcing them to play Test cricket.

If the match up is not one sided and if there is a competition then people will be watching the match, apart from the big three of India Australia and England any series between India and Pakistan will garner huge crowd and New Zealand and Australia matches also attracts the crowd because of their rivalry.

But that doesn't necessarily mean that test cricket is doing great. Ashes and Border-Gavaskar trophy are exceptions. There is hardly any interest for test matches involving teams outside the Big-3 group. Test cricket is declining and the ICC is unable to stem its decline. So far, I am not witnessing any positive impact from the ICC World Test Championship.

Not sure of how three teams can play together ? Do you have any source of this information where we can read more details about the plan ?

Secondly there are already T10 and T6 formats, so there is no need to reduce the overs in T20 format.

Any experiment with a short format is always welcomed. It will be a success or not depends on the viewership and how much close these matches will end. No one likes one sided match in short form of cricket.

I read about that 8 men three squad cricket but is that really possible? People may not get not much interest if three teams are playing against each other.But reducing the overs from T20 is highly possible in the coming years.

@JSRAW you’re absolutely correct as test cricket is definitely dying due to lack of promotion by the ICC, and I wouldn’t be surprised if more ODI matches take place instead of test matches in the near future. Also those tournaments mentioned by you will never be effected, because there’s lot of rivalry between those nations, and more rivalry means more money making opportunities for ICC (advertising, sponsors etc).

Source:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/26414217/andrew-fidel-fernando-satirical-look-back-cricket-march-2019

Tournament that benefit the boards monetarily will always stay regardless of their format. The more viewership and revenue they will generate the longer they will stay. It also depends on the board on how well they promote these tournament and how good their team performs in test cricket format?

"By spreading Test Cricket" i meant adding new countries in Test playing nation list. The Ashes and Border-Gavaskar trophy is cash-cow for their respective boards so yeah, its not going anywhere.