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Quote from: JSRAW on July 26, 2020, 01:49:47 AM

Quote from: akram143 on July 24, 2020, 10:31:05 AM

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Quote from: akram143 on July 23, 2020, 07:31:25 AM

Still it will affect due to the players walking on the pitches, so days passes there will be no grass but better have something other than nothing that is why they choose one stadium to play this tour.

The matches may be held at the same ground. But there is a chance that different set of pitches are used for them. As far as I know, most of the grounds have 2-3 pitches and the curator usually prepare 1-2 additional pitches in addition to the main one. If that is the case, then the concern about the surface deterioration doesn't make any sense.

I am not talking about the deterioration, imagine the pitches were too close to each other so infield players will walk and run over their while fielding which could do some damage to it so it may not act like a fresh pitch even though players were batting on different pitches.

If there is not any Test match schedule on the same stadium in near future then it shouldn't be big issue. unless player intentionally disturbing the other pitch with their own hands, Which is very unlikely.

@JSRAW in my personal opinion no player will try and harm the pitch because if he’s found guiltily of harming the pitch then he would be suspended for few matches, and it would even tarnish his image. Also I believe that ICC would have thought this through and they would be regularly inspecting the pitches, and in any case if a pitch is found unplayable then I’m sure that they’ll request ECB to immediately change the venue.

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Quote from: akram143 on July 24, 2020, 10:31:05 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 24, 2020, 04:52:34 AM

Quote from: akram143 on July 23, 2020, 07:31:25 AM

Still it will affect due to the players walking on the pitches, so days passes there will be no grass but better have something other than nothing that is why they choose one stadium to play this tour.

The matches may be held at the same ground. But there is a chance that different set of pitches are used for them. As far as I know, most of the grounds have 2-3 pitches and the curator usually prepare 1-2 additional pitches in addition to the main one. If that is the case, then the concern about the surface deterioration doesn't make any sense.

I am not talking about the deterioration, imagine the pitches were too close to each other so infield players will walk and run over their while fielding which could do some damage to it so it may not act like a fresh pitch even though players were batting on different pitches.

If there is not any Test match schedule on the same stadium in near future then it shouldn't be big issue. unless player intentionally disturbing the other pitch with their own hands, Which is very unlikely.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on July 24, 2020, 04:00:00 PM

I am sure they will be taken care of by the ground stuff. Good thing is that the matches are still happening at a time when most matches are getting cancelled.

There is nothing that can be done in a situation that demands travel restrictions than we used to see in the past and even in those situation if a board is taking the responsibility to follow all the precautions then they usually get the permission to carry on with the series like we see in the ongoing England and West Indies series followed by Ireland and Paksitan.

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Quote from: akram143 on July 24, 2020, 10:31:05 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 24, 2020, 04:52:34 AM

Quote from: akram143 on July 23, 2020, 07:31:25 AM

Still it will affect due to the players walking on the pitches, so days passes there will be no grass but better have something other than nothing that is why they choose one stadium to play this tour.

The matches may be held at the same ground. But there is a chance that different set of pitches are used for them. As far as I know, most of the grounds have 2-3 pitches and the curator usually prepare 1-2 additional pitches in addition to the main one. If that is the case, then the concern about the surface deterioration doesn't make any sense.

I am not talking about the deterioration, imagine the pitches were too close to each other so infield players will walk and run over their while fielding which could do some damage to it so it may not act like a fresh pitch even though players were batting on different pitches.

I am sure they will be taken care of by the ground stuff. Good thing is that the matches are still happening at a time when most matches are getting cancelled.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 24, 2020, 04:52:34 AM

Quote from: akram143 on July 23, 2020, 07:31:25 AM

Still it will affect due to the players walking on the pitches, so days passes there will be no grass but better have something other than nothing that is why they choose one stadium to play this tour.

The matches may be held at the same ground. But there is a chance that different set of pitches are used for them. As far as I know, most of the grounds have 2-3 pitches and the curator usually prepare 1-2 additional pitches in addition to the main one. If that is the case, then the concern about the surface deterioration doesn't make any sense.

I am not talking about the deterioration, imagine the pitches were too close to each other so infield players will walk and run over their while fielding which could do some damage to it so it may not act like a fresh pitch even though players were batting on different pitches.

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Quote from: akram143 on July 23, 2020, 07:31:25 AM

Still it will affect due to the players walking on the pitches, so days passes there will be no grass but better have something other than nothing that is why they choose one stadium to play this tour.

The matches may be held at the same ground. But there is a chance that different set of pitches are used for them. As far as I know, most of the grounds have 2-3 pitches and the curator usually prepare 1-2 additional pitches in addition to the main one. If that is the case, then the concern about the surface deterioration doesn't make any sense.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on July 23, 2020, 05:24:57 AM

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on July 23, 2020, 12:34:09 AM

They are trying to limit the time window and the travel requirements in order to ensure the safety of the players.

The travel requirement is intense and they will quarantine you where ever you go and it is a smart move by the ECB to have a location for the matches but what happens to the pitch, it will deteriorate if they are playing all the match in one ground, no idea how they will be dealing that as i always thought pitch preparation takes month.

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all of the ODIs against Ireland will be played at Southampton. Earlier they were planning three different venues. Similarly, all the 3 tests against West Indies are being played at Manchester and Southampton

As mentioned by @bryant.coleman the test are being played on two different pitches and the one days will be played on the same ground. I do not think it will hamper the pitch as, there is gap of few days after every match so it won't be a big problem.

Still it will affect due to the players walking on the pitches, so days passes there will be no grass but better have something other than nothing that is why they choose one stadium to play this tour.

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Quote from: ene1980 on July 23, 2020, 04:29:56 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on July 23, 2020, 12:34:09 AM

They are trying to limit the time window and the travel requirements in order to ensure the safety of the players.

The travel requirement is intense and they will quarantine you where ever you go and it is a smart move by the ECB to have a location for the matches but what happens to the pitch, it will deteriorate if they are playing all the match in one ground, no idea how they will be dealing that as i always thought pitch preparation takes month.

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all of the ODIs against Ireland will be played at Southampton. Earlier they were planning three different venues. Similarly, all the 3 tests against West Indies are being played at Manchester and Southampton

As mentioned by @bryant.coleman the test are being played on two different pitches and the one days will be played on the same ground. I do not think it will hamper the pitch as, there is gap of few days after every match so it won't be a big problem.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on July 23, 2020, 12:34:09 AM

They are trying to limit the time window and the travel requirements in order to ensure the safety of the players.

The travel requirement is intense and they will quarantine you where ever you go and it is a smart move by the ECB to have a location for the matches but what happens to the pitch, it will deteriorate if they are playing all the match in one ground, no idea how they will be dealing that as i always thought pitch preparation takes month.

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Quote from: BitSat19 on July 22, 2020, 01:04:34 PM

Right now tough schedule for England as now they are going to play last test match 24 to 28 July and then just very little time for rest as 30th July they have first ODI against Ireland then they have test series against Pakistan hopefully all goes good for rest of all players.

It is understandable. Because of the COVID 19 pandemic, they want to play as many matches as possible in one go. If you check the schedules, all of the ODIs against Ireland will be played at Southampton. Earlier they were planning three different venues. Similarly, all the 3 tests against West Indies are being played at Manchester and Southampton. They are trying to limit the time window and the travel requirements in order to ensure the safety of the players.

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Quote from: erikoy on July 15, 2020, 10:43:13 PM

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However, there are great teams already played in cricket and this should be their goals and mindset that one day they will be able to meet them and by that time comes they should be ready for it. Winning or lossing does not count when it comes rather it is how they play and showed their worth as a team.

As far as i remember Pakistan always produced great bowlers but now they fail to produce exceptional talents we used to see in the past may be because of their selection process or lack of clarity and preparation in finding out new talents, whatever it may be it is hurting the team as i always thought Pakistan had the best bowlers from Asia but now India took over that position and developing new talents is always necessary for cricket to flourish and every team must improve their infrastructure in finding young talents.

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Most of the games played around right now were with zero audience. There is no information shared regarding the upcoming match between England and Ireland. This means the match seems to be played as the past without any kind of restrictions. Both the squads were with young players. This will be very interesting to watch, and after a long international cricket is being played.

Ireland has announced a 21 member training squad for the series. And it includes most of the familiar faces. I heard that they landed on Southampton via a special chartered flight. Today they are supposed to take part in a practice match, although I don't have any details regarding the same. On 26th, they will be playing a warm-up match against the England Lions and the first ODI will be played on 30th July.

Right now tough schedule for England as now they are going to play last test match 24 to 28 July and then just very little time for rest as 30th July they have first ODI against Ireland then they have test series against Pakistan hopefully all goes good for rest of all players.

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Quote from: AjithBtc on July 22, 2020, 06:42:40 AM

Most of the games played around right now were with zero audience. There is no information shared regarding the upcoming match between England and Ireland. This means the match seems to be played as the past without any kind of restrictions. Both the squads were with young players. This will be very interesting to watch, and after a long international cricket is being played.

Ireland has announced a 21 member training squad for the series. And it includes most of the familiar faces. I heard that they landed on Southampton via a special chartered flight. Today they are supposed to take part in a practice match, although I don't have any details regarding the same. On 26th, they will be playing a warm-up match against the England Lions and the first ODI will be played on 30th July.

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Most of the games played around right now were with zero audience. There is no information shared regarding the upcoming match between England and Ireland. This means the match seems to be played as the past without any kind of restrictions. Both the squads were with young players. This will be very interesting to watch, and after a long international cricket is being played.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 20, 2020, 04:27:18 AM

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Thanks for your replies. I understand your skepticism regarding the current form of the Irish cricket team. Actually, their performance seems to have gone downhill after they got the test status. But still, I am a bit more optimistic. From what I have seen, the Irish players have a never say die attitude. They have managed upsets, even during the most distressing times. I am just hoping that they will not end up like Kenya (after all the hype made when they reached the 2003 World Cup semi-finals).

Irish team is no match to the present England team. The team which will be playing the three ODI's consist of mostly inexperienced players. These three ODI will only help the younger players to gain experience. Not looking forward to anything else.

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Quote from: ene1980 on July 21, 2020, 06:57:14 PM

If you ask me i really love the underdog winning the match but when Ireland defeated England in the World Cup they had a really young team and they had some really surprising players that are not exposed to the general population especially Kevin O'Brien was crucial for the win and i seriously do not remember them replicating that win against any top opponents after that but the present England team is the best they had as long as i remember watching cricket.

There is no depth in Irish cricket. The Irish cricket team is a combined team representing two different countries (the Republic of Ireland, and Northern Ireland). In both the countries, cricket can be regarded as a minor sport. The first class structure is in the infancy and two of the four provinces doesn't even have first class teams (Connacht and Munster).

There is some cricketing talent in Ireland, but then the ultimate dream of every Irish cricketer is to play for England. Those who are really good (such as Eoin Morgan) play for England on a continuous basis. Those who are not that good (such as Boyd Rankin and Ed Joyce) return to Ireland once they are kicked out of the England squad. If they continue to lose their best players, how can they compete against the best teams? You can say that it's just one or two players. But these are their best players. Imagine an Irish team with Eoin Morgan as the captain. They could have offered a lot of resistance even to the big-3 teams.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 20, 2020, 04:27:18 AM

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Thanks for your replies. I understand your skepticism regarding the current form of the Irish cricket team. Actually, their performance seems to have gone downhill after they got the test status. But still, I am a bit more optimistic. From what I have seen, the Irish players have a never say die attitude. They have managed upsets, even during the most distressing times. I am just hoping that they will not end up like Kenya (after all the hype made when they reached the 2003 World Cup semi-finals).

If you ask me i really love the underdog winning the match but when Ireland defeated England in the World Cup they had a really young team and they had some really surprising players that are not exposed to the general population especially Kevin O'Brien was crucial for the win and i seriously do not remember them replicating that win against any top opponents after that but the present England team is the best they had as long as i remember watching cricket.

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Thanks for your replies. I understand your skepticism regarding the current form of the Irish cricket team. Actually, their performance seems to have gone downhill after they got the test status. But still, I am a bit more optimistic. From what I have seen, the Irish players have a never say die attitude. They have managed upsets, even during the most distressing times. I am just hoping that they will not end up like Kenya (after all the hype made when they reached the 2003 World Cup semi-finals).

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 19, 2020, 08:31:03 AM

Someone can confirm this - the next international ODI match will be played on 30th this month, between England and Ireland in Southampton. England seems to be struggling against West Indies now, and therefore I would say that there is a realistic chance of an upset or two. Ireland is not in great form for the last 1-2 years, but a win against England can be life-changing for them.

You cannot underestimate the England side in ODI, in the Test format it was a close match in the first game against West Indies and they were lucky as England was rusty in the field as they dropped many chances in the final day and in the second Test the weather was helping West Indies and one day was washed away and that will provide West Indies an advantage as they could draw the match from this situation but not expecting any upset from Ireland and that too in ODI.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 19, 2020, 08:31:03 AM

Someone can confirm this - the next international ODI match will be played on 30th this month, between England and Ireland in Southampton. England seems to be struggling against West Indies now, and therefore I would say that there is a realistic chance of an upset or two. Ireland is not in great form for the last 1-2 years, but a win against England can be life-changing for them.

How do you expect that, Ireland will win an ODI match against England? England is much much better than Ireland team. It's true that England lose against west indies, you know some of England's legendary players were not in the squad to corona virus issue or their personal issue and West Indies is a hard team too. West Indies are better than Ireland. I've seen a news that, Jofar Archer will back on next match, he is a great bowler. I think he will be able to give us a devastating innings against Ireland.

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