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^ I don't think BCCI will be looking to host IPL in country like Sri Lanka because they have always security issues due to inside war causes so BCCI will choose UAE if possible. But I am not seeing any news regarding cricket in local media for too long, that's why I thought IPL 2020 has been completely cancelled.
I am sure you wake up after many years because now Sri Lanka is very safe country and no security issues they already done some very good improvements in many fields and BCCI is not going to face any issue regard this but right now no one is sure about this because all things going in limbo until we are not sure about twenty/20 world cup announcement.
Not really, you can see even in 2019 there was a bomb blast in Churches and Luxury hotels.Still there are riots between two communities in SL so I don't think many countries will never allow their players to play on that kind of place.

If the government of srilanka puts adequate security measures then I do not it will be an issue. I think more than security covid19 is a big issue everywhere. Srilanka is still better place with less number of positive cases.



@pakitheboss according to the BCCI president it’s important to stage the IPL because 10 - 20% of the revenue is distributed among all the boards, and this I believe is a big hint for us that IPL will be organised soon (hint: all boards love money don’t they?). Although he was silent on the location it seems that the authority’s are narrowing it down to UAE, as IPL was organised out there in the past, hence I too feel that IPL will be organised in UAE only.

Source:

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/article/its-not-just-about-india-sourav-ganguly-explains-why-ipl-2020-is-crucial-for-world-cricket/620265

Yes I am aware of the revenue loss but considering the present situation where WHO has come out with a new statement that it is possible for covid19 virus to spread through air, plus the lack of ability to control the spread by almost all countries can postpone IPL this year.

Situation in UAE is not too good too
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/united-arab-emirates/

But, is better than India.
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I can't control my laughter after seeing BCCI trying so hard to have an IPL this year. The BCCI came up with the IPL, only because they wanted to destroy the Indian Cricket League (ICL). If the Zee Entertainment Enterprises had not came up with the ICL, then the BCCI would have never considered to launch a franchise league of their own. Now the IPL has grown bigger than any other cricket tournament.
I don't think it's 100% true. I mean yes BCCI might have got some inspiration from ICL but saying that there would have been no IPL if no ICL that is wrong. Cricket took this franchise based league idea actually from football. They could never do this earlier because of 50 over format, but introduction of twenty over game made this idea a reality. But yes that being said BCCI are trying their best to ensure this revenue comes to their pocket this year. Who knows they decide to do two IPLs next year. IPLs are even more profiteer than World Cup. LOL.

Well said brother. I'm agreed with you. I think BCCI is trying hard to organizing an IPL in this year only for revenue. You know that BCCI earn a rich amount of revenue from IPL sponsors and advertisements. they don't want to lose this handsome amount of money. so, they want to organize IPL in this year hardly. but I don't think that BCCI wants to destroy the Indian cricket league.
Fun fact: cancellation of Ipl has caused bcci a loss of more than 3800 crore rupees. So their desperation looks pretty obvious.
But yes it's thousands of crores at stake. I won't be surprised if BCCI gets ready to fight with Government too on this issue.
Prodigal son who turns investments 1000s of times is the secretary. Papa is the Home minister. I don't think if they try to go ahead with it, BCCI is gonna need to "fight" the government. Of course, they will make a show out of it so the news channels have something to talk about. For bending public opinion, we have the famed whatsapp army, which btw, is busy making self-goals these days when it comes to pissing off Nepali citizens.

Politics aside, i think they can go ahead with it anytime they want. Its just that most of the "celebrity owners" are probably not on-board considering the conditions in Mumbai and potential loss of investments as the stadiums won't feel. There is the player fees, auction money, advertisement etc that has to be taken care of. IPL runs really close to the entertainment industry and it is in shambles right now.

Everything depends on whether these stakeholders can turn a profit. From the general perception of the Indian public, it can be safely assumed that very few people would like to go out in a crowd of 60,000 in the stadiums. There is no business case for IPL, even if we count the viewing rights.
Haha oh yes sorry i forgot the connection of bcci with our beloved home minister. What I meant here was courts and not government exactly. But yes you are absolutely right it's about the money but actually 3400 crores of income comes from streaming rights. The income from stadium tickets is meagre 400 crores. This 3400 crores can still be pretty much preserved
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Yeah, 99% chances (Without spectators; question is where?). I have mentioned numerous times that IPL is first priority for BCCI because its their lifeline. They don't have any other choice, so only 1% chance of cancellation. The way i see it, BCCI waiting for official confirmation from the ICC in regards of T-20 World Cup cancellation. Once they cancel WC, then we can expect some quick action from the BCCI.

I might be dead wrong on my calculation when giving % number in favor of IPL/BCCI here but that's make sense to me right now when i look at the big picture.

I think the sole problem isn't spectator but the teams and support staff too. We have 8 teams with roaster of 20 players each and followed by support staff and few managers from franchises. Even if they decide to keep it in just one city like Mumbai. Still accommodating so many players within a city can be cumbersome. And not to forget that foreign players would have to undergo a long quarantine. I think all the players would be kept in complete isolation for complete series. So all this doesn't makes sense as per current protocols. But yes it's thousands of crores at stake. I won't be surprised if BCCI gets ready to fight with Government too on this issue.
When $500 Millions at stake then anything is possible all they have to do is invest bit more in logistics and safety of players, which they are already aware of and its very much doable IMO. As far as i know Center gov doesn't have much say in it as they already issued a multiple guideline when they unlocked the lock down (except opening Intl air route, BCCI is capable to hire private jets for personal use) so its all comes down to state gov. BCCI would like to see IPL going ahead in India but their first choice is UAE and UAE seems eager to host IPL season. I would like to see IPL in Sri Lanka as its economical good option but UAE is okay too.

yes but I think no matter how much they invest. There is a still a lot of risk involved also when WHO is saying that disease might be airborne. And why would even UAE or Sri Lanka want it to happen in their countries? Without crowd allowed in stadium there won't be much of revenue for them.
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When $500 Millions at stake then anything is possible all they have to do is invest bit more in logistics and safety of players, which they are already aware of and its very much doable IMO. As far as i know Center gov doesn't have much say in it as they already issued a multiple guideline when they unlocked the lock down (except opening Intl air route, BCCI is capable to hire private jets for personal use) so its all comes down to state gov. BCCI would like to see IPL going ahead in India but their first choice is UAE and UAE seems eager to host IPL season. I would like to see IPL in Sri Lanka as its economical good option but UAE is okay too.
Since there is a huge amount at stake the BCCI could proceed with the IPL if they get the green signal from the ICC. UAE is a good option as they recently constructed a fight island for the UFC and they conducted the event successfully and they have the money to conduct extravagant tournaments like the IPL but i have not idea whether they have multiple stadiums with flood light facility is the question, i know Pakistan conducts their Test matches in the UAE.

 
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I think all the South Asian country (Pakistan , India , Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka) have some safety issue. but if government  military takes responsibility for the security of everyone then I think it is not impossible Sri Lanka can host the IPL.  on the other hand UAE is safer than others. BCCI can host IPL on UAE. Actually, I don't know why they talk about hosting IPL on Sri-Lanka instead of UAE.

Apart from Pakistan and Afghanistan, I don't think that the remaining countries have major security issues. I am not denying that the other nations had some isolated incidents in the past, but such events can happen even in the most developed nations. If the government provides adequate security, then there is no safety issue as such to any of the visiting teams.
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^ I don't think BCCI will be looking to host IPL in country like Sri Lanka because they have always security issues due to inside war causes so BCCI will choose UAE if possible. But I am not seeing any news regarding cricket in local media for too long, that's why I thought IPL 2020 has been completely cancelled.
I am sure you wake up after many years because now Sri Lanka is very safe country and no security issues they already done some very good improvements in many fields and BCCI is not going to face any issue regard this but right now no one is sure about this because all things going in limbo until we are not sure about twenty/20 world cup announcement.
Not really, you can see even in 2019 there was a bomb blast in Churches and Luxury hotels.Still there are riots between two communities in SL so I don't think many countries will never allow their players to play on that kind of place.

I think all the South Asian country (Pakistan , India , Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka) have some safety issue. but if government  military takes responsibility for the security of everyone then I think it is not impossible Sri Lanka can host the IPL.  on the other hand UAE is safer than others. BCCI can host IPL on UAE. Actually, I don't know why they talk about hosting IPL on Sri-Lanka instead of UAE.
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I don't understand the statement from Ganguly. He is claiming that 10% to 20% of the revenue from the IPL is distributed among the other boards. As far as I know, that is not the case. Perhaps what he hinted is that 10% to 20% of the player salaries go to non-Indian (i.e overseas) players. As far as I know, the other boards doesn't receive any money from the IPL directly.
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^ I don't think BCCI will be looking to host IPL in country like Sri Lanka because they have always security issues due to inside war causes so BCCI will choose UAE if possible. But I am not seeing any news regarding cricket in local media for too long, that's why I thought IPL 2020 has been completely cancelled.
I am sure you wake up after many years because now Sri Lanka is very safe country and no security issues they already done some very good improvements in many fields and BCCI is not going to face any issue regard this but right now no one is sure about this because all things going in limbo until we are not sure about twenty/20 world cup announcement.
Not really, you can see even in 2019 there was a bomb blast in Churches and Luxury hotels.Still there are riots between two communities in SL so I don't think many countries will never allow their players to play on that kind of place.

If the government of srilanka puts adequate security measures then I do not it will be an issue. I think more than security covid19 is a big issue everywhere. Srilanka is still better place with less number of positive cases.



@pakitheboss according to the BCCI president it’s important to stage the IPL because 10 - 20% of the revenue is distributed among all the boards, and this I believe is a big hint for us that IPL will be organised soon (hint: all boards love money don’t they?). Although he was silent on the location it seems that the authority’s are narrowing it down to UAE, as IPL was organised out there in the past, hence I too feel that IPL will be organised in UAE only.

Source:

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/article/its-not-just-about-india-sourav-ganguly-explains-why-ipl-2020-is-crucial-for-world-cricket/620265
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^ I don't think BCCI will be looking to host IPL in country like Sri Lanka because they have always security issues due to inside war causes so BCCI will choose UAE if possible. But I am not seeing any news regarding cricket in local media for too long, that's why I thought IPL 2020 has been completely cancelled.
I am sure you wake up after many years because now Sri Lanka is very safe country and no security issues they already done some very good improvements in many fields and BCCI is not going to face any issue regard this but right now no one is sure about this because all things going in limbo until we are not sure about twenty/20 world cup announcement.
Not really, you can see even in 2019 there was a bomb blast in Churches and Luxury hotels.Still there are riots between two communities in SL so I don't think many countries will never allow their players to play on that kind of place.

If the government of srilanka puts adequate security measures then I do not it will be an issue. I think more than security covid19 is a big issue everywhere. Srilanka is still better place with less number of positive cases.

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^ I don't think BCCI will be looking to host IPL in country like Sri Lanka because they have always security issues due to inside war causes so BCCI will choose UAE if possible. But I am not seeing any news regarding cricket in local media for too long, that's why I thought IPL 2020 has been completely cancelled.
I am sure you wake up after many years because now Sri Lanka is very safe country and no security issues they already done some very good improvements in many fields and BCCI is not going to face any issue regard this but right now no one is sure about this because all things going in limbo until we are not sure about twenty/20 world cup announcement.
Not really, you can see even in 2019 there was a bomb blast in Churches and Luxury hotels.Still there are riots between two communities in SL so I don't think many countries will never allow their players to play on that kind of place.
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^ I don't think BCCI will be looking to host IPL in country like Sri Lanka because they have always security issues due to inside war causes so BCCI will choose UAE if possible. But I am not seeing any news regarding cricket in local media for too long, that's why I thought IPL 2020 has been completely cancelled.
I am sure you wake up after many years because now Sri Lanka is very safe country and no security issues they already done some very good improvements in many fields and BCCI is not going to face any issue regard this but right now no one is sure about this because all things going in limbo until we are not sure about twenty/20 world cup announcement.
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^ I don't think BCCI will be looking to host IPL in country like Sri Lanka because they have always security issues due to inside war causes so BCCI will choose UAE if possible. But I am not seeing any news regarding cricket in local media for too long, that's why I thought IPL 2020 has been completely cancelled.
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Yeah, 99% chances (Without spectators; question is where?). I have mentioned numerous times that IPL is first priority for BCCI because its their lifeline. They don't have any other choice, so only 1% chance of cancellation. The way i see it, BCCI waiting for official confirmation from the ICC in regards of T-20 World Cup cancellation. Once they cancel WC, then we can expect some quick action from the BCCI.

I might be dead wrong on my calculation when giving % number in favor of IPL/BCCI here but that's make sense to me right now when i look at the big picture.

I think the sole problem isn't spectator but the teams and support staff too. We have 8 teams with roaster of 20 players each and followed by support staff and few managers from franchises. Even if they decide to keep it in just one city like Mumbai. Still accommodating so many players within a city can be cumbersome. And not to forget that foreign players would have to undergo a long quarantine. I think all the players would be kept in complete isolation for complete series. So all this doesn't makes sense as per current protocols. But yes it's thousands of crores at stake. I won't be surprised if BCCI gets ready to fight with Government too on this issue.
When $500 Millions at stake then anything is possible all they have to do is invest bit more in logistics and safety of players, which they are already aware of and its very much doable IMO. As far as i know Center gov doesn't have much say in it as they already issued a multiple guideline when they unlocked the lock down (except opening Intl air route, BCCI is capable to hire private jets for personal use) so its all comes down to state gov. BCCI would like to see IPL going ahead in India but their first choice is UAE and UAE seems eager to host IPL season. I would like to see IPL in Sri Lanka as its economical good option but UAE is okay too.

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There is a major problem in having a quick turn around even when the ICC cancels the world cup to resume the IPL, the players are at home for months and they need around a month to prepare to get back to peak fitness and match practice to get to international standards. I would like to see transparency from ICC on what they are planning to do and how much money they wanted to risk by conducting the matches during pandemic or take it safely but extending the series.
Not sure what exactly you meant by transparency... ICC earns from the ICC tournaments mainly ( world cup is about to cancel)
As far as WTC is concern ICC is working on something, Bangladesh board already raised this issue "extending the WTC" and couple of other cricket boards gave green light to this debate so its work in progress.

England and Windies playing against each others, this test series is part of WTC so ICC monitoring it as usual. Pakistan is waiting for their turn and they are already camping in England.

Asia cup cancellation decision came from ACC, ICC doesn't has any say.
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But yes it's thousands of crores at stake. I won't be surprised if BCCI gets ready to fight with Government too on this issue.
Prodigal son who turns investments 1000s of times is the secretary. Papa is the Home minister. I don't think if they try to go ahead with it, BCCI is gonna need to "fight" the government. Of course, they will make a show out of it so the news channels have something to talk about. For bending public opinion, we have the famed whatsapp army, which btw, is busy making self-goals these days when it comes to pissing off Nepali citizens.

Politics aside, i think they can go ahead with it anytime they want. Its just that most of the "celebrity owners" are probably not on-board considering the conditions in Mumbai and potential loss of investments as the stadiums won't feel. There is the player fees, auction money, advertisement etc that has to be taken care of. IPL runs really close to the entertainment industry and it is in shambles right now.

Everything depends on whether these stakeholders can turn a profit. From the general perception of the Indian public, it can be safely assumed that very few people would like to go out in a crowd of 60,000 in the stadiums. There is no business case for IPL, even if we count the viewing rights.
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I can't control my laughter after seeing BCCI trying so hard to have an IPL this year. The BCCI came up with the IPL, only because they wanted to destroy the Indian Cricket League (ICL). If the Zee Entertainment Enterprises had not came up with the ICL, then the BCCI would have never considered to launch a franchise league of their own. Now the IPL has grown bigger than any other cricket tournament.
I don't think it's 100% true. I mean yes BCCI might have got some inspiration from ICL but saying that there would have been no IPL if no ICL that is wrong. Cricket took this franchise based league idea actually from football. They could never do this earlier because of 50 over format, but introduction of twenty over game made this idea a reality. But yes that being said BCCI are trying their best to ensure this revenue comes to their pocket this year. Who knows they decide to do two IPLs next year. IPLs are even more profiteer than World Cup. LOL.

Well said brother. I'm agreed with you. I think BCCI is trying hard to organizing an IPL in this year only for revenue. You know that BCCI earn a rich amount of revenue from IPL sponsors and advertisements. they don't want to lose this handsome amount of money. so, they want to organize IPL in this year hardly. but I don't think that BCCI wants to destroy the Indian cricket league.
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The way i see it, BCCI waiting for official confirmation from the ICC in regards of T-20 World Cup cancellation. Once they cancel WC, then we can expect some quick action from the BCCI.
I might be dead wrong on my calculation when giving % number in favor of IPL/BCCI here but that's make sense to me right now when i look at the big picture.
There is a major problem in having a quick turn around even when the ICC cancels the world cup to resume the IPL, the players are at home for months and they need around a month to prepare to get back to peak fitness and match practice to get to international standards. I would like to see transparency from ICC on what they are planning to do and how much money they wanted to risk by conducting the matches during pandemic or take it safely but extending the series.



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I can't control my laughter after seeing BCCI trying so hard to have an IPL this year. The BCCI came up with the IPL, only because they wanted to destroy the Indian Cricket League (ICL). If the Zee Entertainment Enterprises had not came up with the ICL, then the BCCI would have never considered to launch a franchise league of their own. Now the IPL has grown bigger than any other cricket tournament.
I don't think it's 100% true. I mean yes BCCI might have got some inspiration from ICL but saying that there would have been no IPL if no ICL that is wrong. Cricket took this franchise based league idea actually from football. They could never do this earlier because of 50 over format, but introduction of twenty over game made this idea a reality. But yes that being said BCCI are trying their best to ensure this revenue comes to their pocket this year. Who knows they decide to do two IPLs next year. IPLs are even more profiteer than World Cup. LOL.
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I can't control my laughter after seeing BCCI trying so hard to have an IPL this year. The BCCI came up with the IPL, only because they wanted to destroy the Indian Cricket League (ICL). If the Zee Entertainment Enterprises had not came up with the ICL, then the BCCI would have never considered to launch a franchise league of their own. Now the IPL has grown bigger than any other cricket tournament.
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UAE also got decent amount of corona cases but they are good at controlling by giving good regulations but still Do you believe that it is possible to host IPL 2020 successfully?

Honestly I already lost the hope of watching IPL for this year, now the whole country is afraid of covid 19 effect in the near future.
Yeah, 99% chances (Without spectators; question is where?). I have mentioned numerous times that IPL is first priority for BCCI because its their lifeline. They don't have any other choice, so only 1% chance of cancellation. The way i see it, BCCI waiting for official confirmation from the ICC in regards of T-20 World Cup cancellation. Once they cancel WC, then we can expect some quick action from the BCCI.

I might be dead wrong on my calculation when giving % number in favor of IPL/BCCI here but that's make sense to me right now when i look at the big picture.

I think the sole problem isn't spectator but the teams and support staff too. We have 8 teams with roaster of 20 players each and followed by support staff and few managers from franchises. Even if they decide to keep it in just one city like Mumbai. Still accommodating so many players within a city can be cumbersome. And not to forget that foreign players would have to undergo a long quarantine. I think all the players would be kept in complete isolation for complete series. So all this doesn't makes sense as per current protocols. But yes it's thousands of crores at stake. I won't be surprised if BCCI gets ready to fight with Government too on this issue.

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UAE also got decent amount of corona cases but they are good at controlling by giving good regulations but still Do you believe that it is possible to host IPL 2020 successfully?

Honestly I already lost the hope of watching IPL for this year, now the whole country is afraid of covid 19 effect in the near future.
Yeah, 99% chances (Without spectators; question is where?). I have mentioned numerous times that IPL is first priority for BCCI because its their lifeline. They don't have any other choice, so only 1% chance of cancellation. The way i see it, BCCI waiting for official confirmation from the ICC in regards of T-20 World Cup cancellation. Once they cancel WC, then we can expect some quick action from the BCCI.

I might be dead wrong on my calculation when giving % number in favor of IPL/BCCI here but that's make sense to me right now when i look at the big picture.

Just in ... Asia Cup is cancelled, says Ganguly
~edited out~
This is really sad to know that finally Asia cup is cancelled and now it will be held in 2022 in Pakistan. All this is being done to make the IPL possible as Asia cup schedule was conflicting with the IPL. If Asia Cup 2020 postponed due to Covid-19, there should be no way PSL or IPL could take place at the same time.
Yeah, No Asia cup this year. saw some confirmed news of cancellation as well, now they are looking at 2021 Asia cup in Sri lanka. We could argue if its ethical or not but fact is everything comes down at revenue so its shouldn't be that surprising.
2020 is the worst year for sports almost all tournaments are either getting canceled or getting postponed. Already six months have passed in this dreadful year and every day you only are hearing is bad news. I am skeptical, whether it will be possible to conduct Asia cup in 2021 if the pandemic situation is not controlled by that time.
haha don't forget the Olympics. That's the biggest thing that has faced a cancellation this year. I feel pity for these people as they actually do a very long training to participate in this tournament.
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UAE also got decent amount of corona cases but they are good at controlling by giving good regulations but still Do you believe that it is possible to host IPL 2020 successfully?

Honestly I already lost the hope of watching IPL for this year, now the whole country is afraid of covid 19 effect in the near future.
Yeah, 99% chances (Without spectators; question is where?). I have mentioned numerous times that IPL is first priority for BCCI because its their lifeline. They don't have any other choice, so only 1% chance of cancellation. The way i see it, BCCI waiting for official confirmation from the ICC in regards of T-20 World Cup cancellation. Once they cancel WC, then we can expect some quick action from the BCCI.

I might be dead wrong on my calculation when giving % number in favor of IPL/BCCI here but that's make sense to me right now when i look at the big picture.

Just in ... Asia Cup is cancelled, says Ganguly
~edited out~
This is really sad to know that finally Asia cup is cancelled and now it will be held in 2022 in Pakistan. All this is being done to make the IPL possible as Asia cup schedule was conflicting with the IPL. If Asia Cup 2020 postponed due to Covid-19, there should be no way PSL or IPL could take place at the same time.
Yeah, No Asia cup this year. saw some confirmed news of cancellation as well, now they are looking at 2021 Asia cup in Sri lanka. We could argue if its ethical or not but fact is everything comes down at revenue so its shouldn't be that surprising.
2020 is the worst year for sports almost all tournaments are either getting canceled or getting postponed. Already six months have passed in this dreadful year and every day you only are hearing is bad news. I am skeptical, whether it will be possible to conduct Asia cup in 2021 if the pandemic situation is not controlled by that time.
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UAE also got decent amount of corona cases but they are good at controlling by giving good regulations but still Do you believe that it is possible to host IPL 2020 successfully?

Honestly I already lost the hope of watching IPL for this year, now the whole country is afraid of covid 19 effect in the near future.
Yeah, 99% chances (Without spectators; question is where?). I have mentioned numerous times that IPL is first priority for BCCI because its their lifeline. They don't have any other choice, so only 1% chance of cancellation. The way i see it, BCCI waiting for official confirmation from the ICC in regards of T-20 World Cup cancellation. Once they cancel WC, then we can expect some quick action from the BCCI.

I might be dead wrong on my calculation when giving % number in favor of IPL/BCCI here but that's make sense to me right now when i look at the big picture.

Just in ... Asia Cup is cancelled, says Ganguly
~edited out~
This is really sad to know that finally Asia cup is cancelled and now it will be held in 2022 in Pakistan. All this is being done to make the IPL possible as Asia cup schedule was conflicting with the IPL. If Asia Cup 2020 postponed due to Covid-19, there should be no way PSL or IPL could take place at the same time.
Yeah, No Asia cup this year. saw some confirmed news of cancellation as well, now they are looking at 2021 Asia cup in Sri lanka. We could argue if its ethical or not but fact is everything comes down at revenue so its shouldn't be that surprising.
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