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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 14, 2020, 08:57:48 PM

What do you really expect from the bowlers, when the batsmen failed to put even 260 in a perfect batting track where a total of 300-320 would have proved insufficient?

I expect them to at the very least take a couple of wickets since they are world class bowlers. I don't blame the batsmen completely since Dhawan and Rahul did perform. They failed in all 3 departments(Not just batting).

Quote from: Sithara007 on January 14, 2020, 08:57:48 PM

It was the batting department which lost the game for India. Indian batsmen once again proved that against good opposition, they are too much dependent on Virat Kohli and if he fails then the team will end up with a below par score. The number one team, playing at home and losing the match by 10 wickets. How does that sound?

Kohli himself is not that consistent these days. India lost on all 3 fronts which is why it is stupid to just criticize the batsmen. Bowlers should not be blamed because its a batting track? Silly logic. Not a single bowler performed well basically.

Indian batting line up is always dependent on one batsman earlier it used to be Tendulkar and nowdays it is kholi. If Kohli does not performs the whole middle order gets cracked. If any team wants to win against India they only need to get the top three batsmen and they will win the match.

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Quote from: Haunebu on January 14, 2020, 03:40:43 PM

I would definitely blame the bowlers since they could not take a single wicket between which is downright pathetic. Both the bowlers and batsmen performed horribly. However, Warner and Finch had a lot of luck in this match. Lets see if luck favors them in the next one.

Yeah, but bowlers shouldn't take all the blame when the batsmen too did not perform well. Not being able to take a single wicket was still fine if they had to have a good economy rate and let the Aussies struggle with dot balls. Except for Jadeja and Yadav, the remaining best bowlers of the team were miserable. Jadeja made Warner struggle.

Winning the toss was a major factor so hope next time India wins the toss and bowls first.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 14, 2020, 08:57:48 PM

What do you really expect from the bowlers, when the batsmen failed to put even 260 in a perfect batting track where a total of 300-320 would have proved insufficient?

I expect them to at the very least take a couple of wickets since they are world class bowlers. I don't blame the batsmen completely since Dhawan and Rahul did perform. They failed in all 3 departments(Not just batting).

Quote from: Sithara007 on January 14, 2020, 08:57:48 PM

It was the batting department which lost the game for India. Indian batsmen once again proved that against good opposition, they are too much dependent on Virat Kohli and if he fails then the team will end up with a below par score. The number one team, playing at home and losing the match by 10 wickets. How does that sound?

Kohli himself is not that consistent these days. India lost on all 3 fronts which is why it is stupid to just criticize the batsmen. Bowlers should not be blamed because its a batting track? Silly logic. Not a single bowler performed well basically.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 14, 2020, 08:57:48 PM

Quote from: Haunebu on January 14, 2020, 03:40:43 PM

I would definitely blame the bowlers since they could not take a single wicket between which is downright pathetic. Both the bowlers and batsmen performed horribly. However, Warner and Finch had a lot of luck in this match. Lets see if luck favors them in the next one.

What do you really expect from the bowlers, when the batsmen failed to put even 260 in a perfect batting track where a total of 300-320 would have proved insufficient? It was the batting department which lost the game for India. Indian batsmen once again proved that against good opposition, they are too much dependent on Virat Kohli and if he fails then the team will end up with a below par score. The number one team, playing at home and losing the match by 10 wickets. How does that sound?

Too much experimenting with the batting line up has resulted in this worst performance by the Indian side. As a captain you know you are set as 3rd batsman for more than a decade why experiment with the order?

This tournament is not meant for experimenting, I guess the captain and the coach forgot.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 14, 2020, 08:40:53 AM

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It seems match is already slipped away from India now as they are 110/0 in 14 overs and now just require 147 runs in 36 overs with 10 wickets in hand. It should be very easy chase for them now as Warner and Finch are hammering the bowlers everywhere. Can India turnaround from here?

The Indian captain made the mistake of sticking on with the pace bowlers. Shardul Thakur and Mohammad Shami were conceding a lot of runs, and the Australian batsmen (David Warner and Aaron Finch) were making use of their pace to score runs. He should have called the spinners earlier. The run rate dipped once Kuldeep Yadav and Ravindra Jadeja started their spells.

Bowling has always been an issue with the Indian side. Four seemers and only one spinner was a big mistake. Indians are known for spin balling and Australians are known to struggle with it.

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Quote from: Haunebu on January 14, 2020, 03:40:43 PM

I would definitely blame the bowlers since they could not take a single wicket between which is downright pathetic. Both the bowlers and batsmen performed horribly. However, Warner and Finch had a lot of luck in this match. Lets see if luck favors them in the next one.

What do you really expect from the bowlers, when the batsmen failed to put even 260 in a perfect batting track where a total of 300-320 would have proved insufficient? It was the batting department which lost the game for India. Indian batsmen once again proved that against good opposition, they are too much dependent on Virat Kohli and if he fails then the team will end up with a below par score. The number one team, playing at home and losing the match by 10 wickets. How does that sound?

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Quote from: akhjob on January 14, 2020, 10:23:40 AM

I really don't want a whitewash from them

Whitewash? I don't think so. India is still in this tournament even after such a humiliating defeat, but don't count them out just because of a single loss. They will bounce back though it will definitely not be easy against such a powerful Australian side.

Quote from: erikalui on January 14, 2020, 02:56:39 PM

Can't blame the bowlers as the batsmen were equally disappointing. Thakur, Bumrah, Shami all had over 7-8 economy rate. Glad Kohli said he was miserable in all three departments.

I would definitely blame the bowlers since they could not take a single wicket between which is downright pathetic. Both the bowlers and batsmen performed horribly. However, Warner and Finch had a lot of luck in this match. Lets see if luck favors them in the next one.

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Quote from: Tipstar on January 14, 2020, 12:03:34 PM

It's the second largest chase without a wicket loss. These records are certainly much worth than individual scores. And this all done in an stadium in Mumbai. This shows a promising new team for the next world cup in India. India has been strong in the past decade on its home soil getting it's 2nd ever world cup.

Australia dominated India while they are touring and it was a special match for everyone as they were able to defeat the hyped surrounding India when they defeated minnows in cricket for the past few months and i was looking forward to their series against Australia New Zealand and England and how they are going to play against these nations rather than the rest of the countries and i am sure India will bounce back from the defeat but the first match showed how dominant Australia can be with their current form.

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Not only disappointing but an embarrassing match. Australia won in just 37 overs and that too without losing any wicket. Can't blame the bowlers as the batsmen were equally disappointing. Thakur, Bumrah, Shami all had over 7-8 economy rate. Glad Kohli said he was miserable in all three departments.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 14, 2020, 10:45:49 AM

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Aron Finch and Warner has once again broken their own record of partnership against India in ODI. The performance by David Warner after his return to the team is something big. Right now India is strong in Chase and need improvement on batting first. In today's cricket as most of the users mentioned a bigger target could've been set for chasing.

Warner had a horrible time during the Ashes. The Australian selectors showed a lot of courage by not dropping him from the squad. He made less than 100 runs from 10 innings against England. But then he came back strongly against Sri Lanka, Pakistan and New Zealand. Today I feel bad for Steve Smith and Marnus Labuschagne. They didn't got a chance to bat, as a result of the record breaking stand between Warner and Finch.

It's the second largest chase without a wicket loss. These records are certainly much worth than individual scores. And this all done in an stadium in Mumbai. This shows a promising new team for the next world cup in India. India has been strong in the past decade on its home soil getting it's 2nd ever world cup.

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Quote from: AjithBtc on January 14, 2020, 10:40:52 AM

Aron Finch and Warner has once again broken their own record of partnership against India in ODI. The performance by David Warner after his return to the team is something big. Right now India is strong in Chase and need improvement on batting first. In today's cricket as most of the users mentioned a bigger target could've been set for chasing.

Warner had a horrible time during the Ashes. The Australian selectors showed a lot of courage by not dropping him from the squad. He made less than 100 runs from 10 innings against England. But then he came back strongly against Sri Lanka, Pakistan and New Zealand. Today I feel bad for Steve Smith and Marnus Labuschagne. They didn't got a chance to bat, as a result of the record breaking stand between Warner and Finch.

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Aron Finch and Warner has once again broken their own record of partnership against India in ODI. The performance by David Warner after his return to the team is something big. Right now India is strong in Chase and need improvement on batting first. In today's cricket as most of the users mentioned a bigger target could've been set for chasing.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 14, 2020, 10:07:27 AM

I didn't expected this when match started and I don't remember many games where India lost to Aussie in such manner. Last humiliating and one sided game i remember is 2003 WC final match. One thing is clear, no matter what. Best batsman should bat at Number 3 and now Indian team need to get their shit together in the next game, which they are very capable of doing. Otherwise this home series will not look good in their scorecard.

When the match started i was expecting a competitive match and i am seeing India dominated by an opposition in India after a very long time, when ever any team comes to India the matches are always close victory and i was also expecting that but this was a one sided trashing and India was experimenting too much with weaker teams and now the experiment backfired and it is good to see some teams dominating India.

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My horse has very good chance to win :-D

Well, looks like you have been lucky lately because of my absence for the past week Tongue

Congrats

Anyway, didn't expect such a thrashing from the Aussies. It's really a disappointing start for India, let's hope they'll come back in the next match at Rajkot on 17th. I really don't want a whitewash from them

Totally unexpected from the team India as this was just a one sided match. India would be totally disappointed as pitch was the same but what a difference between two teams, one took all 10 wickets and other could not even pick up a single wicket. Warner was man of the match due to his 128 not out and Finch too played well for his not out innings of 110.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 14, 2020, 09:50:21 AM

Quote from: Indymoney on January 14, 2020, 09:38:42 AM

I was not expecting result like this but now its all end just Finch is on 94 and going for hundred its already all end.

I was also not expecting this as i was expecting an average first innings score of above 275 runs and made a good bet on that and lost the bet and now both the Australian openers scored their century and aiming for a complete domination without loosing any wicket, when the pitch report said that it would be a batting wicket i did not expect this but it was a batting wicket for Australia as the Indian bowlers are struggling to contain the runs nor pick a wicket.

Even 275 is not enough on a flat track such as Wankhede, but I expected the Indian bowlers to give a tough fight to Australia. Perhaps they should experiment with Navdeep Saini for the next match. He is faster than Shardul Thakur in the air, and that should give him a bit of advantage on flat tracks. Also, Kuldeep Yadav failed to trouble the Australian batsmen. I guess Yuzvendra Chahal would be a better choice for the next match.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on January 14, 2020, 07:02:51 AM

My horse has very good chance to win :-D

Well, looks like you have been lucky lately because of my absence for the past week Tongue

Congrats

Anyway, didn't expect such a thrashing from the Aussies. It's really a disappointing start for India, let's hope they'll come back in the next match at Rajkot on 17th. I really don't want a whitewash from them

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on January 14, 2020, 07:02:51 AM

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My horse has very good chance to win :-D

Oh well, You won. Congrats

I didn't expected this when match started and I don't remember many games where India lost to Aussie in such manner. Last humiliating and one sided game i remember is 2003 WC final match. One thing is clear, no matter what. Best batsman should bat at Number 3 and now Indian team need to get their shit together in the next game, which they are very capable of doing. Otherwise this home series will not look good in their scorecard.

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Quote from: Indymoney on January 14, 2020, 09:38:42 AM

I was not expecting result like this but now its all end just Finch is on 94 and going for hundred its already all end.

I was also not expecting this as i was expecting an average first innings score of above 275 runs and made a good bet on that and lost the bet and now both the Australian openers scored their century and aiming for a complete domination without loosing any wicket, when the pitch report said that it would be a batting wicket i did not expect this but it was a batting wicket for Australia as the Indian bowlers are struggling to contain the runs nor pick a wicket.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 14, 2020, 09:30:27 AM

Warner just got his hundred. He seems to be in splendid form. Another 55 runs are needed and Australia is having all 10 wickets intact. A lot of praise was showered on the Indian bowlers during the past few months. But see how mediocre is their performance today. Bumrah is returning from an injury and it is understandable. But what about the other bowlers? They look clueless.

Just check scorecard and now feeling very strange as today first ODI was not going to be as this Indian middle order completely fail to give any resistance after Kohli wicket and now bowlers also feeling hot as they have some very special treatment from these two lethal weapons I was not expecting result like this but now its all end just Finch is on 94 and going for hundred its already all end.

Finch has also completed his hundred. The bowlers are looking very ordinary. It is going to be quite humiliating for India, after so many one sided matches against weak teams such as Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and South Africa recently. 14 more runs are needed and Indian bowlers are trying to pick at least one wicket, which may save them from complete humiliation.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 14, 2020, 09:30:27 AM

Warner just got his hundred. He seems to be in splendid form. Another 55 runs are needed and Australia is having all 10 wickets intact. A lot of praise was showered on the Indian bowlers during the past few months. But see how mediocre is their performance today. Bumrah is returning from an injury and it is understandable. But what about the other bowlers? They look clueless.

Just check scorecard and now feeling very strange as today first ODI was not going to be as this Indian middle order completely fail to give any resistance after Kohli wicket and now bowlers also feeling hot as they have some very special treatment from these two lethal weapons I was not expecting result like this but now its all end just Finch is on 94 and going for hundred its already all end.

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