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In the 1st ODI match, Nepal team was defeated by United Arab emirates team by a huge margin. Like Arjun Saud and Dipendra Singh of Nepal team, other batsmen could have played well. Then the Nepal team would not have been defeated by such a margin. Nepal team saud and Dipendra singh, no one could play well except these two players. Nepal team performed very badly in batting
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1st ODI Match Nepal vs United Arab Emirates. Nepal won the toss and invited the United Arab Emirates. United Arab emirates batted first and scored 263 runs for the loss of 7 wickets. Top order and middle order batting performance of united Arab emirates team is excellent. I don't know how well Nepal team can play in ODI match. Now it will be understood by the end of the game, how well Nepal can play
United Arab Emirates is comparatively renowned team who are performing well in recent times. On the other hand, there is a new name added in cricket is Nepal. The score of today's ODI match suggests the same thing. Almost everyone in the United Arab Emirates team managed to score well. On the other everyone except Nepal's Arjun Saud and Dipendra Singh Airee did not perform well. It remains to be seen how much changes in the next ODI on behalf of Nepla cricket.
United Arab Emirates is at good position than Nepal if you see the Ranking point table UAE made 32 point on 22 matches on the others hand Nepal made 15 point on 22 matches . And today's match result also shows that UAE has performed better than Nepal natively.Specially from UAE side Aayan Afzal khan make this easy to them by taking 4wicket with 1.40 economy rate. 
Nepal has not received much recognition for their cricket compared to Emirates Cricket. Here are some reasons. One is Emirates Cricket got ICC membership in 1990 while Nepal in Asian Cricket in 1994 Under-19 World Cup in 1999 and the ICC Trophy for the first time in 2001. I expect gradually Nepal cricket will improve If they increase their importance in cricket they will definitely be able to do better in future.
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1st ODI Match Nepal vs United Arab Emirates. Nepal won the toss and invited the United Arab Emirates. United Arab emirates batted first and scored 263 runs for the loss of 7 wickets. Top order and middle order batting performance of united Arab emirates team is excellent. I don't know how well Nepal team can play in ODI match. Now it will be understood by the end of the game, how well Nepal can play
United Arab Emirates is comparatively renowned team who are performing well in recent times. On the other hand, there is a new name added in cricket is Nepal. The score of today's ODI match suggests the same thing. Almost everyone in the United Arab Emirates team managed to score well. On the other everyone except Nepal's Arjun Saud and Dipendra Singh Airee did not perform well. It remains to be seen how much changes in the next ODI on behalf of Nepla cricket.
United Arab Emirates is at good position than Nepal if you see the Ranking point table UAE made 32 point on 22 matches on the others hand Nepal made 15 point on 22 matches . And today's match result also shows that UAE has performed better than Nepal natively.Specially from UAE side Aayan Afzal khan make this easy to them by taking 4wicket with 1.40 economy rate. 
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1st ODI Match Nepal vs United Arab Emirates. Nepal won the toss and invited the United Arab Emirates. United Arab emirates batted first and scored 263 runs for the loss of 7 wickets. Top order and middle order batting performance of united Arab emirates team is excellent. I don't know how well Nepal team can play in ODI match. Now it will be understood by the end of the game, how well Nepal can play
United Arab Emirates is comparatively renowned team who are performing well in recent times. On the other hand, there is a new name added in cricket is Nepal. The score of today's ODI match suggests the same thing. Almost everyone in the United Arab Emirates team managed to score well. On the other everyone except Nepal's Arjun Saud and Dipendra Singh Airee did not perform well. It remains to be seen how much changes in the next ODI on behalf of Nepla cricket.
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Nepal vs United Arab Emirates, 1st ODI match has started. United Arab Emirates are now batting in this match. They scored 109 runs in 23 overs and lost 2 wickets. If Nepal bowlers can bowl well in this match then United Arab Emirates will win this match. It seems that they will not be able to score much runs. If Nepal can perform well in this match then they will have hope to win this match.

These things actually make me sad. Nepal lost this match by 84 runs. Nepal only had two solo innings in the second innings when they were batting. They were not able to form any actually meaningful partnership. And I think that’s what let them down.

But the reason why I feel sad is that Nepal is trying to do better with its own players, and here we have the UAE which does not have its own players. And they are winning, which obviously is going to make teams like Nepal feel really bad.

Now Nepal will have to win both of the matches that are left.
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1st ODI Match Nepal vs United Arab Emirates. Nepal won the toss and invited the United Arab Emirates. United Arab emirates batted first and scored 263 runs for the loss of 7 wickets. Top order and middle order batting performance of united Arab emirates team is excellent. I don't know how well Nepal team can play in ODI match. Now it will be understood by the end of the game, how well Nepal can play

UAE won the match by 84 runs as Nepal scored 179 runs in 50 overs. Clearly uae is much better side among all associate nations though it is composed of players of subcontinent. Nepal is playing  cricket for many years but still wasn't able to make any impact that can take them to main icc events.
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Nepal vs United Arab Emirates, 1st ODI match has started. United Arab Emirates are now batting in this match. They scored 109 runs in 23 overs and lost 2 wickets. If Nepal bowlers can bowl well in this match then United Arab Emirates will win this match. It seems that they will not be able to score much runs. If Nepal can perform well in this match then they will have hope to win this match.
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Pakistan's performance on ODI format is also quite popular. They are currently ranked 4th in the ICC ODI format. Where England is in the number one position. And tomorrow is the T20 World Cup where 2nd vs 3rd is going to be a big battle. There is no opportunity to look down anyone. England played quite heroically throughout the tournament and had no problems. On the other hand, Pakistan has to make various calculations. Anyway in T20 match predicting is not effective. So you have to depend on the field.
Butler is very dangerous player but Pakistani bowling in very strong as well. Pakistan has been very lucky to have reached to final.
If they concentrate they might be able to win the cup

I cannot say if Pakistan is better compared to England in the ODI or not, because currently, Pakistan is very inconsistent. So, it is very hard to predict anything about Pakistan. And the main problem is Pakistan is highly dependent on a few players. If they do not play well, it is very hard for Pakistan to win.

Today was the World Cup T-20 final and England won the match pretty easily in the end. Pakistan have already seen what England can do against India. I never thought the target that they have given was going to be enough. Pakistan at least needed 160 to challenge England.
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Pakistan's performance on ODI format is also quite popular. They are currently ranked 4th in the ICC ODI format. Where England is in the number one position. And tomorrow is the T20 World Cup where 2nd vs 3rd is going to be a big battle. There is no opportunity to look down anyone. England played quite heroically throughout the tournament and had no problems. On the other hand, Pakistan has to make various calculations. Anyway in T20 match predicting is not effective. So you have to depend on the field.
 
Butler is very dangerous player but Pakistani bowling in very strong as well. Pakistan has been very lucky to have reached to final.
If they concentrate they might be able to win the cup
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I don’t think there is any point in talking about this. ICC is always going to think about money first. And that is going to be the downfall of ICC. To be honest every sports body needs to think about money. The ICC is absolutely different because they only care about money. For somebody you obviously need to think about money otherwise you’re not going to be good in the long run for that certain sport. But at the same time, in the long run, you are not going to earn a good amount of money if you have any favorites, and also I don’t want to upgrade and improve the number of playing nations. For ICC profit seems to be the only thing of concern.
Today India lost to England. Bad luck for India- while India is going back home - Pakistan reached the Final. Now England will try to win the world cup but Paksitan has been very lucky to reach the final. If the luck is siding them they might win.
The match between England and Pakistan will be very competitive. But I want to put England ahead of Pakistan, because England team's opening batsman and middle order batsman are very good. But Babar Azam and Mohammad Rejuan are one of the batsmen of Pakistan team, but the middle order batsman of this team is very weak. India's defeat on the other hand surprised me.
I think in this time it is a major problem for  Pakistan team on all format . Because almost in most cases it has been seen that if the top order batsmen can't perform well then Pakistan has to gain a lot of momentum to win that match. But I am little confused about upcoming match even the match prediction says the win probability of England is more than Pakistan but still I think that match is very unpredictable. If England team can get Pakistan's top order batsmen out early then I think it will be very easy for England to win. And on the other hand if they can't do that and the top order batsmen can perform well then I think Pakistan also has the ability to win.
Pakistan's performance on ODI format is also quite popular. They are currently ranked 4th in the ICC ODI format. Where England is in the number one position. And tomorrow is the T20 World Cup where 2nd vs 3rd is going to be a big battle. There is no opportunity to look down anyone. England played quite heroically throughout the tournament and had no problems. On the other hand, Pakistan has to make various calculations. Anyway in T20 match predicting is not effective. So you have to depend on the field.
 
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That is what every sports body does. They are more of a menting money body than working on the promotion of sports itself.
Some people claim the same for FIFA as well, but that is okie . . they can't make everyone happy.
Nope. Every sports body doesn't behave like this. FIFA spends a majority of their revenue every year to develop football in the developing nations. And the remaining revenue is divided equally between the 211 national associations. In order to make football more popular (it is already the most popular sport in the world), they have increased the number of participants in the world cup to 48 (from 32). On the other hand, the ICC reduced the number of participants in the ODI world cup from 16 to 10. World Rugby is another organization which puts sports above money. They divided the member nations to several tiers, and provided additional funding to each country to develop the sport, depending on the tier.
With this I have one thing in mind why ICC is also not going with tier system for funding like top six nations will be in tier one, and then we can go next six in tier two and then next eight in tier three which will surely give good development and increase the competition as well because every board and team will be fight hard for having better funding, and they will try to increase quality of the game in their country franchise cricket could be bonus for countries specially for few big countries like India, Australia, England and Pakistan.

But, here now we have another issue which format could be added for this which is surely not easy but for me here we have to go with t20 because this is surely going to be most popular and surely this will increase good number of countries as well which is positive development in this game but ICC which is currently favouring Gulf surely suffer because we need policy as well.
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I don’t think there is any point in talking about this. ICC is always going to think about money first. And that is going to be the downfall of ICC. To be honest every sports body needs to think about money. The ICC is absolutely different because they only care about money. For somebody you obviously need to think about money otherwise you’re not going to be good in the long run for that certain sport. But at the same time, in the long run, you are not going to earn a good amount of money if you have any favorites, and also I don’t want to upgrade and improve the number of playing nations. For ICC profit seems to be the only thing of concern.
Today India lost to England. Bad luck for India- while India is going back home - Pakistan reached the Final. Now England will try to win the world cup but Paksitan has been very lucky to reach the final. If the luck is siding them they might win.
The match between England and Pakistan will be very competitive. But I want to put England ahead of Pakistan, because England team's opening batsman and middle order batsman are very good. But Babar Azam and Mohammad Rejuan are one of the batsmen of Pakistan team, but the middle order batsman of this team is very weak. India's defeat on the other hand surprised me.
I think in this time it is a major problem for  Pakistan team on all format . Because almost in most cases it has been seen that if the top order batsmen can't perform well then Pakistan has to gain a lot of momentum to win that match. But I am little confused about upcoming match even the match prediction says the win probability of England is more than Pakistan but still I think that match is very unpredictable. If England team can get Pakistan's top order batsmen out early then I think it will be very easy for England to win. And on the other hand if they can't do that and the top order batsmen can perform well then I think Pakistan also has the ability to win.
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Nope. Every sports body doesn't behave like this. FIFA spends a majority of their revenue every year to develop football in the developing nations. And the remaining revenue is divided equally between the 211 national associations. In order to make football more popular (it is already the most popular sport in the world), they have increased the number of participants in the world cup to 48 (from 32). On the other hand, the ICC reduced the number of participants in the ODI world cup from 16 to 10. World Rugby is another organization which puts sports above money. They divided the member nations to several tiers, and provided additional funding to each country to develop the sport, depending on the tier.
Usual suspects are back in the ICC board.

Most importantly they also filled the Financial & Commercial Affairs Committee (F&CA) top post and guess the name (Jay Shah). This committee decides the finance thingy for global cricket. Let's see what happens, interesting times are ahead for sure.

Having said that I'm surprised that why there is no voice regarding "Conflict of interest".
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I don’t think there is any point in talking about this. ICC is always going to think about money first. And that is going to be the downfall of ICC. To be honest every sports body needs to think about money. The ICC is absolutely different because they only care about money. For somebody you obviously need to think about money otherwise you’re not going to be good in the long run for that certain sport. But at the same time, in the long run, you are not going to earn a good amount of money if you have any favorites, and also I don’t want to upgrade and improve the number of playing nations. For ICC profit seems to be the only thing of concern.
Today India lost to England. Bad luck for India- while India is going back home - Pakistan reached the Final. Now England will try to win the world cup but Paksitan has been very lucky to reach the final. If the luck is siding them they might win.
The match between England and Pakistan will be very competitive. But I want to put England ahead of Pakistan, because England team's opening batsman and middle order batsman are very good. But Babar Azam and Mohammad Rejuan are one of the batsmen of Pakistan team, but the middle order batsman of this team is very weak. India's defeat on the other hand surprised me.
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That is what every sports body does. They are more of a menting money body than working on the promotion of sports itself.
Some people claim the same for FIFA as well, but that is okie . . they can't make everyone happy.

Nope. Every sports body doesn't behave like this. FIFA spends a majority of their revenue every year to develop football in the developing nations. And the remaining revenue is divided equally between the 211 national associations. In order to make football more popular (it is already the most popular sport in the world), they have increased the number of participants in the world cup to 48 (from 32). On the other hand, the ICC reduced the number of participants in the ODI world cup from 16 to 10. World Rugby is another organization which puts sports above money. They divided the member nations to several tiers, and provided additional funding to each country to develop the sport, depending on the tier.
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Before conducting an event ICC looks at how it will cost or earning. If they are lagging behind in terms of money, they are not encouraged. But the ICC was supposed to take initiative in all these matters. If someone else takes that proposal, they reject it, ICC's behavior is very strange.
The initiative taken by BCCI was later followed by other countries. If India is able to manage WIPL properly then other countries Pakistan, Bangladesh will also walk in the same path as they followed IPL. However, like men's cricket, women's cricket will not get the same level, but at some point when good cricketers are produced, those tournaments will be profitable.
Profit should not be the sole concern here. Organizations such as FIFA and FIH have a lot of U-15, U-17 and U-19 tournaments, although these events doesn't return much profit for them. The ICC is different. They always think about money and were even planning to cancel the U-19 and women's world cup events. One disadvantage with women's cricket is that many of the participating countries are in South Asia and the culture is very conservative. In countries such as Pakistan and Bangladesh, it is even more difficult.

I don’t think there is any point in talking about this. ICC is always going to think about money first. And that is going to be the downfall of ICC. To be honest every sports body needs to think about money. The ICC is absolutely different because they only care about money. For somebody you obviously need to think about money otherwise you’re not going to be good in the long run for that certain sport. But at the same time, in the long run, you are not going to earn a good amount of money if you have any favorites, and also I don’t want to upgrade and improve the number of playing nations. For ICC profit seems to be the only thing of concern.
Its not only ICC but its every sports body - they would think of money first. And that is okie.
With out money there is nothing productive - one thing they should not be doing it ignoring the right thing for the sake of money.
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I don’t think there is any point in talking about this. ICC is always going to think about money first. And that is going to be the downfall of ICC. To be honest every sports body needs to think about money. The ICC is absolutely different because they only care about money. For somebody you obviously need to think about money otherwise you’re not going to be good in the long run for that certain sport. But at the same time, in the long run, you are not going to earn a good amount of money if you have any favorites, and also I don’t want to upgrade and improve the number of playing nations. For ICC profit seems to be the only thing of concern.

If that is the case, then the ICC should stop claiming that they are a sports body. Rather, they should claim that they are a business organization. Maybe they could go for an IPO and list themselves in the stock markets as well. A large part of the revenues are used for "administrative expenses" and no one ever gets any details for this part. There is absolutely zero accountability and no one knows how a large part of the revenues are being spent. And since they have their headquarters in the United Arab Emirates, no one can demand for any sort of audit or review.
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That is what every sports body does. They are more of a menting money body than working on the promotion of sports itself.
Some people claim the same for FIFA as well, but that is okie . . they can't make everyone happy.
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Before conducting an event ICC looks at how it will cost or earning. If they are lagging behind in terms of money, they are not encouraged. But the ICC was supposed to take initiative in all these matters. If someone else takes that proposal, they reject it, ICC's behavior is very strange.

The initiative taken by BCCI was later followed by other countries. If India is able to manage WIPL properly then other countries Pakistan, Bangladesh will also walk in the same path as they followed IPL. However, like men's cricket, women's cricket will not get the same level, but at some point when good cricketers are produced, those tournaments will be profitable.
Profit should not be the sole concern here. Organizations such as FIFA and FIH have a lot of U-15, U-17 and U-19 tournaments, although these events doesn't return much profit for them. The ICC is different. They always think about money and were even planning to cancel the U-19 and women's world cup events. One disadvantage with women's cricket is that many of the participating countries are in South Asia and the culture is very conservative. In countries such as Pakistan and Bangladesh, it is even more difficult.
Sports organizations need to do things like NGO's and few are already doing things like this, but sadly we never have any positive thing in ICC like this just because of this we have too much criticism for this organization and peoples those are involved in this all are also mindless because most of the management is not from sport they are businessmen or politicians so just because of this we are having too many issues like these as @Sithara007 saying they can go with tournaments like U-15, U-17 and U-19 which will bring better quality and chance for many associate and other countries to increase quality, but they are having only one tournament U-19 and that end so it means they are not serious about this all which is surely a concern right now and no one available to give up any update about this all.
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I don’t think there is any point in talking about this. ICC is always going to think about money first. And that is going to be the downfall of ICC. To be honest every sports body needs to think about money. The ICC is absolutely different because they only care about money. For somebody you obviously need to think about money otherwise you’re not going to be good in the long run for that certain sport. But at the same time, in the long run, you are not going to earn a good amount of money if you have any favorites, and also I don’t want to upgrade and improve the number of playing nations. For ICC profit seems to be the only thing of concern.

If that is the case, then the ICC should stop claiming that they are a sports body. Rather, they should claim that they are a business organization. Maybe they could go for an IPO and list themselves in the stock markets as well. A large part of the revenues are used for "administrative expenses" and no one ever gets any details for this part. There is absolutely zero accountability and no one knows how a large part of the revenues are being spent. And since they have their headquarters in the United Arab Emirates, no one can demand for any sort of audit or review.
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Before conducting an event ICC looks at how it will cost or earning. If they are lagging behind in terms of money, they are not encouraged. But the ICC was supposed to take initiative in all these matters. If someone else takes that proposal, they reject it, ICC's behavior is very strange.

The initiative taken by BCCI was later followed by other countries. If India is able to manage WIPL properly then other countries Pakistan, Bangladesh will also walk in the same path as they followed IPL. However, like men's cricket, women's cricket will not get the same level, but at some point when good cricketers are produced, those tournaments will be profitable.

Profit should not be the sole concern here. Organizations such as FIFA and FIH have a lot of U-15, U-17 and U-19 tournaments, although these events doesn't return much profit for them. The ICC is different. They always think about money and were even planning to cancel the U-19 and women's world cup events. One disadvantage with women's cricket is that many of the participating countries are in South Asia and the culture is very conservative. In countries such as Pakistan and Bangladesh, it is even more difficult.
India lost their semi final today - I think IPL had a very bad impact on the team India - does INdian think the same way?
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