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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 15, 2022, 02:42:50 AM

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I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
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As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/acc-asia-cup-future-under-cloud/articleshow/35662963.cms

U-19, U-23 (not Ind A) won't be productive much IMO as they hardly travel frequently even in SENA. The first-class tour would never happen as it would be a complete waste of time for any Ranji team except the Northeast (due to skill level) but the Nepali team has everything to gain if they get to travel and participate in Ranji. I used to play amateur cricket and back then we had a fair amount of Nepali players in our club but they were settled here for good. Guess you already know about the history of how it goes?

The only reason the Gulf getting preferential treatment is due to the large Indian Diaspora and economic clout of the gulf countries and it seems BCCI really don't see any incentive on promoting cricket in Nepal, Myanmar etc due to the very same reasons.

Quote from: pakhitheboss on November 15, 2022, 08:58:20 AM

Why will they talk to BCCI for help or support? That is something which they will never try to do as BCCI would take the credit if Nepal starts winning tournaments. Nepal is leat bothered about cricket if they want help then they need to talk to ICC. We know ICC doesn't cares about other boards unless money is involved therefore CAN should work on a strategy to revive cricket in the grass root level.

IMO There is nothing wrong if CAN ask for some favors and BCCI taking credit or not is another matter. This discussion should come when both parties see some sort of success, also it shouldn't bother anyone.

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Quote from: GigaBit on November 15, 2022, 09:59:00 AM

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 15, 2022, 01:51:26 AM

I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
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As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/acc-asia-cup-future-under-cloud/articleshow/35662963.cms

This is the tragedy that cricket Is completely controlled by politics and their extremist leaders, similarly Pakistan have always been targeted and left out because of this BCCI and Indian politics. The world cup next year is planned to be held in pakistan and BCCI jey Shah straightaway rejected that and said India cannot come to Pakistan as matched should be held at neutral venue .
India has alot of political and economic benefits from Afghanistan and that's clear from their behaviour towards Afghanistan, even their players participate in IPL.

Maybe for some reasons BCCI has expressed such words but hopefully they will come back from there. If Pakistan is able to fulfill the requirements given by the ICC then there will have no problem for anyone to play. Moreover, BCCI cannot do any prejudiced act. If there is a security issue it can also be resolved through negotiation. Hopefully all such things will be resolved before the next World Cup.

There is probably no security problem in Pakistan now. Because the Pakistan government now tries to provide maximum security to foreign cricketers. The government of Pakistan will not hesitate to use the army if necessary on the issue of security. But BCCI does not want the series to be held in Pakistan. The main reason for this is the political conflict between these two countries. I think the ICC will definitely give more priority to India's wishes. And will host the series at a separate venue.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on November 15, 2022, 07:08:40 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on November 15, 2022, 02:42:50 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on November 15, 2022, 01:51:26 AM

I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
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As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/acc-asia-cup-future-under-cloud/articleshow/35662963.cms

This is the tragedy that cricket Is completely controlled by politics and their extremist leaders, similarly Pakistan have always been targeted and left out because of this BCCI and Indian politics. The world cup next year is planned to be held in pakistan and BCCI jey Shah straightaway rejected that and said India cannot come to Pakistan as matched should be held at neutral venue .
India has alot of political and economic benefits from Afghanistan and that's clear from their behaviour towards Afghanistan, even their players participate in IPL.

Maybe for some reasons BCCI has expressed such words but hopefully they will come back from there. If Pakistan is able to fulfill the requirements given by the ICC then there will have no problem for anyone to play. Moreover, BCCI cannot do any prejudiced act. If there is a security issue it can also be resolved through negotiation. Hopefully all such things will be resolved before the next World Cup.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on November 15, 2022, 07:08:40 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on November 15, 2022, 02:42:50 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on November 15, 2022, 01:51:26 AM

I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
~~~

As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/acc-asia-cup-future-under-cloud/articleshow/35662963.cms

This is the tragedy that cricket Is completely controlled by politics and their extremist leaders, similarly Pakistan have always been targeted and left out because of this BCCI and Indian politics. The world cup next year is planned to be held in pakistan and BCCI jey Shah straightaway rejected that and said India cannot come to Pakistan as matched should be held at neutral venue .
India has alot of political and economic benefits from Afghanistan and that's clear from their behaviour towards Afghanistan, even their players participate in IPL.

@YinShuiSiYuan I don’t think that anything will change, because currently BCCI has political people running it directly and indirectly hence I expect zero changes in their policy towards Nepal. Furthermore that statement was definitely bad and abuse of power, and thus I feel that ICC should not shift the tournament because it’ll set a very wrong precedent and it may cripple Pakistan cricket for year’s as all countries will suddenly back out from touring them.

Yes that's kinda true that some dirty political games have started in cricket, and specially if we want to see some teams trying to use their power to gain their own advantage, it has become this year's T20 couple but they could not succeed. But I would definitely disagree with such change of venue. So that I will also agree with you because It is not right to wrongfully oppress a team in this way so ICC should shift that tournament Venue.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on November 15, 2022, 07:08:40 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on November 15, 2022, 02:42:50 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on November 15, 2022, 01:51:26 AM

I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
~~~

As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/acc-asia-cup-future-under-cloud/articleshow/35662963.cms

This is the tragedy that cricket Is completely controlled by politics and their extremist leaders, similarly Pakistan have always been targeted and left out because of this BCCI and Indian politics. The world cup next year is planned to be held in pakistan and BCCI jey Shah straightaway rejected that and said India cannot come to Pakistan as matched should be held at neutral venue .
India has alot of political and economic benefits from Afghanistan and that's clear from their behaviour towards Afghanistan, even their players participate in IPL.

Of course you didn't say bad. Today there is business and politics everywhere. But it is normal to have politics or business, but when these things are illegal, the world becomes ugly. Just like cricket is a gentleman's game, but when a team loses by not making the right decision for business, there is no politeness anymore. So, to take cricket forward, everyone has to work together.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 14, 2022, 10:34:17 PM

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Nepal has not received much recognition for their cricket compared to Emirates Cricket. Here are some reasons. One is Emirates Cricket got ICC membership in 1990 while Nepal in Asian Cricket in 1994 Under-19 World Cup in 1999 and the ICC Trophy for the first time in 2001. I expect gradually Nepal cricket will improve If they increase their importance in cricket they will definitely be able to do better in future.

Nepal is a team which is 100% comprised of native players. On the other hand, the United Arab Emirates comprises solely of foreign players. Previously they had token Arab players such as Saeed-Al-Saffar and Sultan Zarawani, but now they have stopped including natives. And many of the foreign players are ex-first class cricketers from India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Nepal is finding it very tough to play against such experienced players and therefore they are losing one match after the other. And this again triggers a chain reaction. ICC funding is based on performance. As a result, the funding for Nepal will be decreased and that for the UAE will be increased.

I don't understand why don't Cricket Association of Nepal reach out to BCCI? Not sure about the ground realities of Nepal cricket much, is there any bad blood between them and BCCI in any way?

If not, then both boards could indeed sign some sort of a contract where Nepali players get to play in the Ranji etc. I know many state boards in India will oppose it as they have to look out for their interest as well due to cut-throat competition among states.

But still, they could include some players or maybe allow the Nepali team to compete in Ranji, just like any other team.

Why will they talk to BCCI for help or support? That is something which they will never try to do as BCCI would take the credit if Nepal starts winning tournaments. Nepal is leat bothered about cricket if they want help then they need to talk to ICC. We know ICC doesn't cares about other boards unless money is involved therefore CAN should work on a strategy to revive cricket in the grass root level.

Football is the most preferred sports in Nepal and accusing ICC or BCCI is just like blaming someone for a theft when the home owner is questionable. CAN is full of representatives who have a little or no idea about cricket. You need to check the About page, which states.

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Cricket, the sport that has re-conquered thousands of Nepalese all around the world, was first of all introduced to Nepal by the ruling Rana Dynasty when they returned from studies in England and India in 1920s though the game was kept very much within them. They started some developmental program; the establishment of Cricket Association of Nepal in 1946 to promote the cricket amongst the aristocracy was one of them.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on November 15, 2022, 07:08:40 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on November 15, 2022, 02:42:50 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on November 15, 2022, 01:51:26 AM

I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
~~~

As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/acc-asia-cup-future-under-cloud/articleshow/35662963.cms

This is the tragedy that cricket Is completely controlled by politics and their extremist leaders, similarly Pakistan have always been targeted and left out because of this BCCI and Indian politics. The world cup next year is planned to be held in pakistan and BCCI jey Shah straightaway rejected that and said India cannot come to Pakistan as matched should be held at neutral venue .
India has alot of political and economic benefits from Afghanistan and that's clear from their behaviour towards Afghanistan, even their players participate in IPL.

@YinShuiSiYuan I don’t think that anything will change, because currently BCCI has political people running it directly and indirectly hence I expect zero changes in their policy towards Nepal. Furthermore that statement was definitely bad and abuse of power, and thus I feel that ICC should not shift the tournament because it’ll set a very wrong precedent and it may cripple Pakistan cricket for year’s as all countries will suddenly back out from touring them.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 15, 2022, 02:42:50 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on November 15, 2022, 01:51:26 AM

I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
~~~

As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/acc-asia-cup-future-under-cloud/articleshow/35662963.cms

This is the tragedy that cricket Is completely controlled by politics and their extremist leaders, similarly Pakistan have always been targeted and left out because of this BCCI and Indian politics. The world cup next year is planned to be held in pakistan and BCCI jey Shah straightaway rejected that and said India cannot come to Pakistan as matched should be held at neutral venue .
India has alot of political and economic benefits from Afghanistan and that's clear from their behaviour towards Afghanistan, even their players participate in IPL.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 15, 2022, 01:51:26 AM

I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
~~~

As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/acc-asia-cup-future-under-cloud/articleshow/35662963.cms

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 15, 2022, 12:27:14 AM

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So the situation is that bad between both cricketing boards or should I say there is no coordination whatsoever.

Do you think if the Nepal Gov or to some extent Cricket Association of Nepal request the Indian Gov or BCCI then they could come up with some sort of consensus?

First of all, the relationship between the two governments is not very warm. KP Sharma (former Nepali Prime Minister) was considered very close to China, and his predecessors are also viewed with a lot of suspicion by the Indian government. And the ordinary Nepalis are angry at the Indian government, veer since the latter imposed a complete blockade of the country after the 2015 earthquake, in which thousands of Nepalis died. India demanded that Nepal give citizenship to migrants from Bihar, which the Nepal government refused. As a result of the blockade, there was an acute shortage of medicine and fuel after the earthquake hit Nepal.

The case with Afghanistan is different. That country is strategically located and is very useful to India in order to counter influence from Pakistan in the central Asian region. And that is the reason why the Indian government is trying hard to make good relations with the Taliban regime now.

Ideally politics should be separate from cricket. But that is not the case always.

I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.

But Yeah, I agree that the blockade was a bad decision, having said that Madhesi parties had genuine concerns regarding the new constitution and the Indian gov (It was mainly due to the bureaucratic system tho) had no other choice but to support them indirectly due to very obvious reasons. Oli looks like more of a meme content to me tbh. Pushpa Dahal on the other hand, oh well.

Despite all this fuckery i firmly believe that the bond between both countries is very deep (minus media) so i really think CAN should definitely approach the BCCI directly.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 15, 2022, 12:01:48 AM

So the situation is that bad between both cricketing boards or should I say there is no coordination whatsoever.

Do you think if the Nepal Gov or to some extent Cricket Association of Nepal request the Indian Gov or BCCI then they could come up with some sort of consensus?

First of all, the relationship between the two governments is not very warm. KP Sharma (former Nepali Prime Minister) was considered very close to China, and his predecessors are also viewed with a lot of suspicion by the Indian government. And the ordinary Nepalis are angry at the Indian government, veer since the latter imposed a complete blockade of the country after the 2015 earthquake, in which thousands of Nepalis died. India demanded that Nepal give citizenship to migrants from Bihar, which the Nepal government refused. As a result of the blockade, there was an acute shortage of medicine and fuel after the earthquake hit Nepal.

The case with Afghanistan is different. That country is strategically located and is very useful to India in order to counter influence from Pakistan in the central Asian region. And that is the reason why the Indian government is trying hard to make good relations with the Taliban regime now.

Ideally politics should be separate from cricket. But that is not the case always.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 14, 2022, 11:10:37 PM

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I don't understand why don't Cricket Association of Nepal reach out to BCCI? Not sure about the ground realities of Nepal cricket much, is there any bad blood between them and BCCI in any way?

If not, then both boards could indeed sign some sort of a contract where Nepali players get to play in the Ranji etc. I know many state boards in India will oppose it as they have to look out for their interest as well due to cut-throat competition among states.

But still, they could include some players or maybe allow the Nepali team to compete in Ranji, just like any other team.

LOL.. is this a joke? The BCCI has a (unwritten) policy of not helping any of the associate members. The only exception was that of Afghanistan, where the government directed them to provide facilities and training (due to political reasons). Anyway, the BCCI is not required to provide any support to the Cricket Association of Nepal (CAN), since it is the responsibility of the ICC and the ACC. To their credit, the ACC is doing all it can, while the ICC is mostly focusing on "high-growth" markets such as the United States and Canada (without any results).

So the situation is that bad between both cricketing boards or should I say there is no coordination whatsoever.

Do you think if the Nepal Gov or to some extent Cricket Association of Nepal request the Indian Gov or BCCI then they could come up with some sort of consensus?

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 14, 2022, 10:34:17 PM

I don't understand why don't Cricket Association of Nepal reach out to BCCI? Not sure about the ground realities of Nepal cricket much, is there any bad blood between them and BCCI in any way?

If not, then both boards could indeed sign some sort of a contract where Nepali players get to play in the Ranji etc. I know many state boards in India will oppose it as they have to look out for their interest as well due to cut-throat competition among states.

But still, they could include some players or maybe allow the Nepali team to compete in Ranji, just like any other team.

LOL.. is this a joke? The BCCI has a (unwritten) policy of not helping any of the associate members. The only exception was that of Afghanistan, where the government directed them to provide facilities and training (due to political reasons). Anyway, the BCCI is not required to provide any support to the Cricket Association of Nepal (CAN), since it is the responsibility of the ICC and the ACC. To their credit, the ACC is doing all it can, while the ICC is mostly focusing on "high-growth" markets such as the United States and Canada (without any results).

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Quote from: BobK71 on November 14, 2022, 11:58:05 AM

Nepal has not received much recognition for their cricket compared to Emirates Cricket. Here are some reasons. One is Emirates Cricket got ICC membership in 1990 while Nepal in Asian Cricket in 1994 Under-19 World Cup in 1999 and the ICC Trophy for the first time in 2001. I expect gradually Nepal cricket will improve If they increase their importance in cricket they will definitely be able to do better in future.

Nepal is a team which is 100% comprised of native players. On the other hand, the United Arab Emirates comprises solely of foreign players. Previously they had token Arab players such as Saeed-Al-Saffar and Sultan Zarawani, but now they have stopped including natives. And many of the foreign players are ex-first class cricketers from India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Nepal is finding it very tough to play against such experienced players and therefore they are losing one match after the other. And this again triggers a chain reaction. ICC funding is based on performance. As a result, the funding for Nepal will be decreased and that for the UAE will be increased.

I don't understand why don't Cricket Association of Nepal reach out to BCCI? Not sure about the ground realities of Nepal cricket much, is there any bad blood between them and BCCI in any way?

If not, then both boards could indeed sign some sort of a contract where Nepali players get to play in the Ranji etc. I know many state boards in India will oppose it as they have to look out for their interest as well due to cut-throat competition among states.

But still, they could include some players or maybe allow the Nepali team to compete in Ranji, just like any other team.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 14, 2022, 09:27:13 PM

Quote from: BobK71 on November 14, 2022, 11:58:05 AM

Nepal has not received much recognition for their cricket compared to Emirates Cricket. Here are some reasons. One is Emirates Cricket got ICC membership in 1990 while Nepal in Asian Cricket in 1994 Under-19 World Cup in 1999 and the ICC Trophy for the first time in 2001. I expect gradually Nepal cricket will improve If they increase their importance in cricket they will definitely be able to do better in future.

Nepal is a team which is 100% comprised of native players. On the other hand, the United Arab Emirates comprises solely of foreign players. Previously they had token Arab players such as Saeed-Al-Saffar and Sultan Zarawani, but now they have stopped including natives. And many of the foreign players are ex-first class cricketers from India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Nepal is finding it very tough to play against such experienced players and therefore they are losing one match after the other. And this again triggers a chain reaction. ICC funding is based on performance. As a result, the funding for Nepal will be decreased and that for the UAE will be increased.

Cricket is not the favourite sports of Nepal. If CAN wants to win matches then first they need to promote cricket at the grass root level. If they are facing funds issue then like other countries they can also hire first class cricketers. No one is stopping them! This will help them in defeating other countries and getting those funds which they can invest in cricket infrastructure and nurturing local talent for the future.

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Batting first in Pakistan Women vs Ireland Women, 3rd ODI ICC Championship Match Ireland Women scored 225 runs in 49.5 overs. In this match they lost all the wickets of Ireland Women. Leah Paul played very well in this match she scored 64 runs from 94 balls. .Amy Hunter scored 41 runs off 43 balls.However, Ireland Women could not score many runs in this match.

everyone is so busy in Men's cricket that they don't have time to watch the woman sports at all.
I don't know why people are not much interested in Women's sports. That is a sorry sight indeed.

I don't like watching women play. I don't like watching women play. Watching men play is a different kind of fun that I don't get from women. But I have seen women bowl properly. And even if they have the skills to bat, they can't do very well in almost every match. If we observe, we can see that the women players are far ahead of the men players of different countries and they have gone to much bigger positions.

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Quote from: BobK71 on November 14, 2022, 11:58:05 AM

Nepal has not received much recognition for their cricket compared to Emirates Cricket. Here are some reasons. One is Emirates Cricket got ICC membership in 1990 while Nepal in Asian Cricket in 1994 Under-19 World Cup in 1999 and the ICC Trophy for the first time in 2001. I expect gradually Nepal cricket will improve If they increase their importance in cricket they will definitely be able to do better in future.

Nepal is a team which is 100% comprised of native players. On the other hand, the United Arab Emirates comprises solely of foreign players. Previously they had token Arab players such as Saeed-Al-Saffar and Sultan Zarawani, but now they have stopped including natives. And many of the foreign players are ex-first class cricketers from India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Nepal is finding it very tough to play against such experienced players and therefore they are losing one match after the other. And this again triggers a chain reaction. ICC funding is based on performance. As a result, the funding for Nepal will be decreased and that for the UAE will be increased.

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I don’t think there is any point in talking about this. ICC is always going to think about money first. And that is going to be the downfall of ICC. To be honest every sports body needs to think about money. The ICC is absolutely different because they only care about money. For somebody you obviously need to think about money otherwise you’re not going to be good in the long run for that certain sport. But at the same time, in the long run, you are not going to earn a good amount of money if you have any favorites, and also I don’t want to upgrade and improve the number of playing nations. For ICC profit seems to be the only thing of concern.

If that is the case, then the ICC should stop claiming that they are a sports body. Rather, they should claim that they are a business organization. Maybe they could go for an IPO and list themselves in the stock markets as well. A large part of the revenues are used for "administrative expenses" and no one ever gets any details for this part. There is absolutely zero accountability and no one knows how a large part of the revenues are being spent. And since they have their headquarters in the United Arab Emirates, no one can demand for any sort of audit or review.

After reading people's comments it seems ICC is actually a business organization that only thinks about money. I really do not think that people actually understand how much money is generated through cricket. As @Sithara007 is saying, ICC should claim that they are a business organization, in business, there are risks and you have to think about risk versus the world at all time, but ICC does not have that problem. They are going to earn money regardless.

Quote from: Sithara007 on November 11, 2022, 10:04:36 PM

Nope. Every sports body doesn't behave like this. FIFA spends a majority of their revenue every year to develop football in the developing nations. And the remaining revenue is divided equally between the 211 national associations. In order to make football more popular (it is already the most popular sport in the world), they have increased the number of participants in the world cup to 48 (from 32). On the other hand, the ICC reduced the number of participants in the ODI world cup from 16 to 10. World Rugby is another organization which puts sports above money. They divided the member nations to several tiers, and provided additional funding to each country to develop the sport, depending on the tier.

As a neutral spectator, it seems to me ICC giving so much importance to their top three or four whatever you like to call them. They have been so biased.

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Quote from: rojan on November 09, 2022, 03:03:26 AM

Batting first in Pakistan Women vs Ireland Women, 3rd ODI ICC Championship Match Ireland Women scored 225 runs in 49.5 overs. In this match they lost all the wickets of Ireland Women. Leah Paul played very well in this match she scored 64 runs from 94 balls. .Amy Hunter scored 41 runs off 43 balls.However, Ireland Women could not score many runs in this match.

everyone is so busy in Men's cricket that they don't have time to watch the woman sports at all.
I don't know why people are not much interested in Women's sports. That is a sorry sight indeed.

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Quote from: BobK71 on November 12, 2022, 10:48:53 AM

Pakistan's performance on ODI format is also quite popular. They are currently ranked 4th in the ICC ODI format. Where England is in the number one position. And tomorrow is the T20 World Cup where 2nd vs 3rd is going to be a big battle. There is no opportunity to look down anyone. England played quite heroically throughout the tournament and had no problems. On the other hand, Pakistan has to make various calculations. Anyway in T20 match predicting is not effective. So you have to depend on the field.

Butler is very dangerous player but Pakistani bowling in very strong as well. Pakistan has been very lucky to have reached to final.
If they concentrate they might be able to win the cup

I cannot say if Pakistan is better compared to England in the ODI or not, because currently, Pakistan is very inconsistent. So, it is very hard to predict anything about Pakistan. And the main problem is Pakistan is highly dependent on a few players. If they do not play well, it is very hard for Pakistan to win.

Today was the World Cup T-20 final and England won the match pretty easily in the end. Pakistan have already seen what England can do against India. I never thought the target that they have given was going to be enough. Pakistan at least needed 160 to challenge England.

I wish Shaheen Shah would not have left the ground - but his injury took the whole dream of trophy from the fans.
He took a great catch and it costed Pakistani the whole world cup. But that happens - one team wins the other loose. Pakistan needs to work on their batting too. Muhmmad Rizwan did not do much good yestrday

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