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Pakistan Women V Sri Lanka Women

After a poor performance in the T20 format, the Sri Lankan women's team has continued its poor performance in the ODI series as well. Today, in the first ODI match, they lost all their wickets for only 169 runs. I don't think it is possible to win with a target of only 170 runs. At the end of 19 overs, Pakistan women's team collected 74 runs. They have lost only 1 wicket. Now Pakistan women's team needs only 96 runs in 31 overs.

The match is over. Pakistan women's team has won the match really easily with 8 wickets and 49 balls in hand. It was a really bad performance from the Sri Lankan women's team after they won the toss and decided to bat first. They could not utilize the toss at all and they lost really badly against a very inexperienced and young Pakistan women's team. They did not even put up a fight. It was very one-sided. And I think this is the way it is going to be for the rest of the matches also.
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The Dutch gave a good fight, but in the end the West Indies won comfortably. Netherlands missed the services of some of their contracted players this time, as they are playing county cricket in England. I am talking about players such as Fred Klassen, Timm van der Gugten, Paul van Meekeren, Shane Snater and Brandon Glover. In the end, pace attack was led by Logan van Beek, who did a very good job within himself. But he hardly got any support from others such as Vivian Kingma and Ryan Klein. The spin component was also disappointing.

I thought they had good scores on the board to defend against the West Indies but their bowling was not up to the mark. I honestly believe that with the score that they put up on the board they should have done better in the bowling department.

Hindi and West Indies won the match really easily with 7 wickets in hand and 11 balls remaining. They could not get the wickets as West Indies did. But it will also be really unfair for Netherlands if we just don't say they played well because they did miss the service of some important players but on the other hand West Indies played with their main team.
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Pakistan Women V Sri Lanka Women

After a poor performance in the T20 format, the Sri Lankan women's team has continued its poor performance in the ODI series as well. Today, in the first ODI match, they lost all their wickets for only 169 runs. I don't think it is possible to win with a target of only 170 runs. At the end of 19 overs, Pakistan women's team collected 74 runs. They have lost only 1 wicket. Now Pakistan women's team needs only 96 runs in 31 overs.
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The Dutch gave a good fight, but in the end the West Indies won comfortably. Netherlands missed the services of some of their contracted players this time, as they are playing county cricket in England. I am talking about players such as Fred Klassen, Timm van der Gugten, Paul van Meekeren, Shane Snater and Brandon Glover. In the end, pace attack was led by Logan van Beek, who did a very good job within himself. But he hardly got any support from others such as Vivian Kingma and Ryan Klein. The spin component was also disappointing.
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Netherland V West Indies

The first ODI match between the Netherlands and the West Indies is being played today. I checked the scoreboard. Netherlands collection 69/1 in 13 overs. The run rate is good enough so far. Opener Vikramjit Singh returned to the dressing room after scoring 47 off 45 balls. Although West Indies is the favorite in this match. The Netherlands team consists of inexperienced players. However, if they are able to score more than 280, then maybe the Netherlands can fight well to win.
@CryptoBuds Netherlands have slowly and steadily reached 102 for the loss of one wicket in the 21st over, and I think that they can easily score 250 runs by the end of their innings, and that score is definitely defendable against West Indies provided they can pick one or two early wickets.
The Netherlands were able to give a target of 241 runs in 45 overs today. It was a good enough collection. The Netherlands batsmen played very well. At the end of 30 overs, West Indies lost 3 wickets and managed to collect 155 runs. West Indies need 91 runs from 90 balls to win. I would say the match is still under the control of West Indies. Because there are still experienced batsmen like Shai Hope in the crease. West Indies will probably win this match.

The Netherlands scored 240 runs in 45 overs. This surprised me. West Indies bowling lineup is not weak. It is amazing to collect 240 runs in an inexperienced team like Netherlands. They batted very well. Yet my idea was that the West Indies would win easily. Because the Netherlands bowling lineup is weak and at the same time they are inexperienced. West Indies lost only 3 wickets to reach the goal.
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Netherland V West Indies

The first ODI match between the Netherlands and the West Indies is being played today. I checked the scoreboard. Netherlands collection 69/1 in 13 overs. The run rate is good enough so far. Opener Vikramjit Singh returned to the dressing room after scoring 47 off 45 balls. Although West Indies is the favorite in this match. The Netherlands team consists of inexperienced players. However, if they are able to score more than 280, then maybe the Netherlands can fight well to win.
@CryptoBuds Netherlands have slowly and steadily reached 102 for the loss of one wicket in the 21st over, and I think that they can easily score 250 runs by the end of their innings, and that score is definitely defendable against West Indies provided they can pick one or two early wickets.

The Netherlands were able to give a target of 241 runs in 45 overs today. It was a good enough collection. The Netherlands batsmen played very well. At the end of 30 overs, West Indies lost 3 wickets and managed to collect 155 runs. West Indies need 91 runs from 90 balls to win. I would say the match is still under the control of West Indies. Because there are still experienced batsmen like Shai Hope in the crease. West Indies will probably win this match.
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Watching the Netherlands vs West Indies ODI match on Fancode. Now Netherlands is also fielding a number of foreign players in the XI. I could count 4 players who were born outside the Netherlands: Vikramjit Singh (Punjab), Aryan Dutt, Musa Ahmed (Lahore) and Teja Nidamanuru (Vijayawada). I am not going to blame them, because they don't have any other options. With each passing year less number of natives are playing cricket in the Netherlands. And the funding from ICC is proportional to the performance. At least they are keeping 50% of the squad as native, as opposed to 0% for UAE and Oman.
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I had my doubts if Australia is going to visit SriLanka or not due to unrest but it seems they are set to go for the bilateral series, this is good news as it could help SL's board with some sort of revenue in these tough times. Meanwhile BCCI also promised another bilateral series to SL in coming months.

@JSRAW I too was under the impression that they’ll pull out citing security reasons, but this is indeed welcome news for Srilanka as they’ll receive much needed money from the tourists.

I hope this goes well because the Sri Lankan cricket board is going to need all the money that they can get right now under such circumstances. Getting these types of help from boards like Australia and India is really good hope for the smaller teams that are struggling right now.

Hopefully, the bigger cricket boards will come forward and help the smaller boards which actually need the help.

I don't think we have to say too much about the performance. Obviously, Sri Lanka might perform really badly because they are not in a good mindset because of what is going on in the country right now. I don't expect them to win against these teams right now but I do expect them to fight well.
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I had my doubts if Australia is going to visit SriLanka or not due to unrest but it seems they are set to go for the bilateral series, this is good news as it could help SL's board with some sort of revenue in these tough times. Meanwhile BCCI also promised another bilateral series to SL in coming months.


@JSRAW I too was under the impression that they’ll pull out citing security reasons, but this is indeed welcome news for Srilanka as they’ll receive much needed money from the tourists.

Netherland V West Indies

The first ODI match between the Netherlands and the West Indies is being played today. I checked the scoreboard. Netherlands collection 69/1 in 13 overs. The run rate is good enough so far. Opener Vikramjit Singh returned to the dressing room after scoring 47 off 45 balls. Although West Indies is the favorite in this match. The Netherlands team consists of inexperienced players. However, if they are able to score more than 280, then maybe the Netherlands can fight well to win.

@CryptoBuds Netherlands have slowly and steadily reached 102 for the loss of one wicket in the 21st over, and I think that they can easily score 250 runs by the end of their innings, and that score is definitely defendable against West Indies provided they can pick one or two early wickets.
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Netherland V West Indies

The first ODI match between the Netherlands and the West Indies is being played today. I checked the scoreboard. Netherlands collection 69/1 in 13 overs. The run rate is good enough so far. Opener Vikramjit Singh returned to the dressing room after scoring 47 off 45 balls. Although West Indies is the favorite in this match. The Netherlands team consists of inexperienced players. However, if they are able to score more than 280, then maybe the Netherlands can fight well to win.
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I had my doubts if Australia is going to visit SriLanka or not due to unrest but it seems they are set to go for the bilateral series, this is good news as it could help SL's board with some sort of revenue in these tough times. Meanwhile BCCI also promised another bilateral series to SL in coming months.

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Hardik Pandya has already been selected for the upcoming series which will be played in India against South Africa. The team announcement was done before the IPL finals. That means the selectors have been actively noticing him while he was playing in the IPL. KL Rahul is the captain but no name has been confirmed for the vice captain. I think they will choose Hardik as he is one of the best contender after his team won the the IPL.

In India, there is an acute shortage of pace-bowling all rounders. Apart from Hardik, there are just two other options who can be considered for national team selection - Vijay Shankar and Venkatesh Iyer. In case of Vijay Shankar, it is doubtful whether he will ever play in IPL after his horrendous performance this season (19 runs from 4 matches, and zero wickets). Venkatesh Iyer showed a lot of promise during last season (2021), but this season he failed. He struggled with both bat and ball. Anyway, he's young (at least when compared to Shankar) and there is a chance that he will make a comeback next year.
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Well.. it is quite possible. Kohli is not in good form for the last 2 years or so, and there are so many talented youngsters waiting to replace him from his no.3 batting position within the national team. It needs to be seen for how long the BCCI will stick with him despite his poor performance. Hardick went through a similar lean phase and it took 2 years for the selectors to kick him out. If Kohli had concentrated on his game rather than all the drama such as Black Lives Matter and Diwali cracker ban, then he would have been able to perform much better. Maybe he should learn a lesson or two from the past legends such as Sachin Tendulkar or Rahul Dravid.

Sachin focused on his fitness too much that's why he was able to play for so long. Dravid despite having awesome figures never crossed the line of decency. Its best in interest of Indian cricket that kohli be given rest and some new talent may check in. After yesterday win chances of Hardick chances of return to Indian team have gone bright.
Hardik Pandya has already been selected for the upcoming series which will be played in India against South Africa. The team announcement was done before the IPL finals. That means the selectors have been actively noticing him while he was playing in the IPL. KL Rahul is the captain but no name has been confirmed for the vice captain. I think they will choose Hardik as he is one of the best contender after his team won the the IPL.
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Well.. it is quite possible. Kohli is not in good form for the last 2 years or so, and there are so many talented youngsters waiting to replace him from his no.3 batting position within the national team. It needs to be seen for how long the BCCI will stick with him despite his poor performance. Hardick went through a similar lean phase and it took 2 years for the selectors to kick him out. If Kohli had concentrated on his game rather than all the drama such as Black Lives Matter and Diwali cracker ban, then he would have been able to perform much better. Maybe he should learn a lesson or two from the past legends such as Sachin Tendulkar or Rahul Dravid.

Sachin focused on his fitness too much that's why he was able to play for so long. Dravid despite having awesome figures never crossed the line of decency. Its best in interest of Indian cricket that kohli be given rest and some new talent may check in. After yesterday win chances of Hardick chances of return to Indian team have gone bright.
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Now kohli in next phase will lose his slot as batsmen from India  squad because of his stats. Kohli start as a player was perfect but he went too proud because of his performance that he started giving preference to players he like over there performance., result is in front of all of us.
Well.. it is quite possible. Kohli is not in good form for the last 2 years or so, and there are so many talented youngsters waiting to replace him from his no.3 batting position within the national team. It needs to be seen for how long the BCCI will stick with him despite his poor performance. Hardick went through a similar lean phase and it took 2 years for the selectors to kick him out. If Kohli had concentrated on his game rather than all the drama such as Black Lives Matter and Diwali cracker ban, then he would have been able to perform much better. Maybe he should learn a lesson or two from the past legends such as Sachin Tendulkar or Rahul Dravid.

I don't see why he should be in the team when he is not performing and there are better and promising players waiting in line to prove themselves. Virat Kohli has obviously lost his confidence which is one of his biggest strengths when he is playing. And the consistent performance has put him into a low phone which is really hard to come out of. And I also agree that he has lost his professionalism and instead of doing these dramas if he actually did concentrate on his game he would still be playing well.
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Now kohli in next phase will lose his slot as batsmen from India  squad because of his stats. Kohli start as a player was perfect but he went too proud because of his performance that he started giving preference to players he like over there performance., result is in front of all of us.

Well.. it is quite possible. Kohli is not in good form for the last 2 years or so, and there are so many talented youngsters waiting to replace him from his no.3 batting position within the national team. It needs to be seen for how long the BCCI will stick with him despite his poor performance. Hardick went through a similar lean phase and it took 2 years for the selectors to kick him out. If Kohli had concentrated on his game rather than all the drama such as Black Lives Matter and Diwali cracker ban, then he would have been able to perform much better. Maybe he should learn a lesson or two from the past legends such as Sachin Tendulkar or Rahul Dravid.

He is just 33 years and has an ample amount of time to come back. It is too early to say that he will lose his slot as a batter in the Indian team. Even Tendulkar also went through such a phase and he was given time to come back. I think he should start working on his basics and should take a break from international cricket for some time.
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Now kohli in next phase will lose his slot as batsmen from India  squad because of his stats. Kohli start as a player was perfect but he went too proud because of his performance that he started giving preference to players he like over there performance., result is in front of all of us.

Well.. it is quite possible. Kohli is not in good form for the last 2 years or so, and there are so many talented youngsters waiting to replace him from his no.3 batting position within the national team. It needs to be seen for how long the BCCI will stick with him despite his poor performance. Hardick went through a similar lean phase and it took 2 years for the selectors to kick him out. If Kohli had concentrated on his game rather than all the drama such as Black Lives Matter and Diwali cracker ban, then he would have been able to perform much better. Maybe he should learn a lesson or two from the past legends such as Sachin Tendulkar or Rahul Dravid.
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Cricket is a game of talent and skills when you implement quota you destroy the basic requirement of the game. I do not think quota should be imposed in sports as such. If you want to provide quota then give financial and coaching assistance to those new talents that are economically backward. You can implement quota at that level but not for selection.
Quota will never workout with cricket, because this will also lead to improper judgement. Will the right person from the specific quota will be selected, no there corruption will play a role. Even now somehow things are getting on track amidst corruption and different forms of favouritism, nepotism, selection process. To keep things perfect everything needs to be transparent, but the same isn't possible.

Yes, I agree.
Selection should be absolutely based on talent and skill. Otherwise, it deteriorates the quality of the team. Talented players will always be the first priority of a team and if the selectors think otherwise, it is very detrimental to the team. I don't think there should be any type of quota system in any sphere of sports. All players should be treated equally.
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Agreed. Favoritism and nepotism are there in cricket (although not as much as it used to be there in the old times), but these are individual-based preferences and doesn't favor any particular religion or ethnic group. As we have seen, nepotism alone can't guarantee the survival of players. Kohli tried to stuff the national team with RCB players such as Navdeep Saini, Washington Sundar and Mohammed Siraj. But in the end, these players couldn't cement their positions in the national side and Kohli himself lost the captaincy.

Now kohli in next phase will lose his slot as batsmen from India  squad because of his stats. Kohli start as a player was perfect but he went too proud because of his performance that he started giving preference to players he like over there performance., result is in front of all of us.
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There is a big difference between favouritism and quota. A quota basically means a fixed seats for individuals belonging to a particular race or ethnicity. I am not sure about other south Asian countries but in India we do not have such kind of quota in cricket. Favouritism is present in India but it doesn't mean the whole team is selected based on it. Another important aspect of Indian cricket is that nepotism also doesn't work here.

Agreed. Favoritism and nepotism are there in cricket (although not as much as it used to be there in the old times), but these are individual-based preferences and doesn't favor any particular religion or ethnic group. As we have seen, nepotism alone can't guarantee the survival of players. Kohli tried to stuff the national team with RCB players such as Navdeep Saini, Washington Sundar and Mohammed Siraj. But in the end, these players couldn't cement their positions in the national side and Kohli himself lost the captaincy.

Yes, that is true. The difference between the quota system and nepotism/favoritism is that the quota system is actually directly affecting the selection of a cricket team for a long time. Like the players are going to be there even though there are other players who are the best fit for the job.

But in Favoritism, a player might get chances of playing but if they don't play well they will eventually be dropped.

So, eventually in my opinion the quota system causes a lot more harm instead of nepotism/favoritism. But I believe both are detrimental to the future of cricket.
Cricket is a game of talent and skills when you implement quota you destroy the basic requirement of the game. I do not think quota should be imposed in sports as such. If you want to provide quota then give financial and coaching assistance to those new talents that are economically backward. You can implement quota at that level but not for selection.
Quota will never workout with cricket, because this will also lead to improper judgement. Will the right person from the specific quota will be selected, no there corruption will play a role. Even now somehow things are getting on track amidst corruption and different forms of favouritism, nepotism, selection process. To keep things perfect everything needs to be transparent, but the same isn't possible.
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