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Quote from: Haunebu on July 29, 2022, 12:16:24 AM

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They need to work a lot harder to improve their game(Especially their bowling department) in order to consistently win matches against all teams across the world.

West Indies bowlers are a joke now. There used to be a time when Curtly Ambrose and Courtney Walsh would terrorize the batsmen from opposing teams. Even the Australian legends such as Steve Waugh and Adam Gilchrist were afraid to face these two. Before that, they had legends such as Malcolm Marshall, Michael Holding and Joel Garner. And look at the current bunch of West Indian pacers. They look so pathetic. It is a painful sight to watch them getting hammered around the park by second-string Indian players.

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Quote from: BobK71 on July 28, 2022, 02:13:43 PM

I think India has been able to revive their old cricket where they are all the best.

I don't think so. They only won the last match convincingly while they won the first two matches by slim margins primarily due to luck siding with them. West Indies could have actually won the series(2-1) if luck sided with them if you think about it.

They need to work a lot harder to improve their game(Especially their bowling department) in order to consistently win matches against all teams across the world.

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West Indies played good cricket, but it wasn't able to make a win. Looking over the first two matches, it is clear West Indies performed well with its scores above 300. If this was against some other team and not India, then this could've been a win for West Indies.

Nowadays, 300 is not a very big total in ODI cricket. Most of the surfaces doesn't offer any support for the bowlers and so far in this series, the pitches in West Indies also behaved the same way. Indian bowling attack is one of the best, and despite that they conceded so many runs. The problem with West Indies is with their batting. The players had good openings, but they failed to convert it to match-winning knocks. Team bonding was always an issue with West Indies. And I could feel the same during Wednesday's match.

^ We obviously cannot deny that India is a far better team compared to the West Indies. Even if West Indies have some power and a little bit of stability in betting right now, I don’t think they have any type of stability in the bowling department. There is no reliable score for West Indies right now. If they play against a weaker opponent or opponents of the same level, it is different, but against India, that is not the case.

In the last ODI, the rain interruption caused a lot of problems for the West Indies as well. I thought that they couldn’t even get set. When you have to think about the DLS method consistently, it is always challenging.

India just proved that they are better in almost every aspect of the game than the West Indies.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on July 28, 2022, 06:14:43 PM

West Indies played good cricket, but it wasn't able to make a win. Looking over the first two matches, it is clear West Indies performed well with its scores above 300. If this was against some other team and not India, then this could've been a win for West Indies.

Nowadays, 300 is not a very big total in ODI cricket. Most of the surfaces doesn't offer any support for the bowlers and so far in this series, the pitches in West Indies also behaved the same way. Indian bowling attack is one of the best, and despite that they conceded so many runs. The problem with West Indies is with their batting. The players had good openings, but they failed to convert it to match-winning knocks. Team bonding was always an issue with West Indies. And I could feel the same during Wednesday's match.

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Quote from: BobK71 on July 28, 2022, 02:13:43 PM

Quote from: Haunebu on July 28, 2022, 12:06:13 AM

The final ODI was one-sided as expected. The Indian batsmen and bowlers were on fire throughout the match despite rain interruptions.

Looks like my predictions were spot-on throughout this ODI series and I won all my bets. The odds for India were decent throughout this series(Winner Overall, Individual match winners etc).

West Indies are not performing well in ODI series, it is not only against India's, I have also seen before that they are surrendering to Bangladesh. I think they need to be more experienced to play ODIs. After all i have to say India roared in this match. Currently one of the Indian players Shubman Gill did not get the century for 2 runs but he introduce himself as a talented one. I think India has been able to revive their old cricket where they are all the best.

West Indies played good cricket, but it wasn't able to make a win. Looking over the first two matches, it is clear West Indies performed well with its scores above 300. If this was against some other team and not India, then this could've been a win for West Indies.

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Quote from: BobK71 on July 28, 2022, 02:13:43 PM

Quote from: Haunebu on July 28, 2022, 12:06:13 AM

The final ODI was one-sided as expected. The Indian batsmen and bowlers were on fire throughout the match despite rain interruptions.

Looks like my predictions were spot-on throughout this ODI series and I won all my bets. The odds for India were decent throughout this series(Winner Overall, Individual match winners etc).

West Indies are not performing well in ODI series, it is not only against India's, I have also seen before that they are surrendering to Bangladesh. I think they need to be more experienced to play ODIs. After all i have to say India roared in this match. Currently one of the Indian players Shubman Gill did not get the century for 2 runs but he introduce himself as a talented one. I think India has been able to revive their old cricket where they are all the best.

West Indies is completely failure in last two decades with all development are going into vain as their board's attitude with their star players is also a big setback for this all failure with they have never done any positive change which help them for having some good quality players in any format. Now they are consistently losing series against teams like Ireland, Bangladesh and now India with this all most chances they will be out of top 12 in coming years as few new teams are in good shape and having some better structure and environment for having better results and improvement in quality.

With this win now India can feel proud because this was their third level team which done amazing job and with many new qualities talented players they can do much better in coming years.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 28, 2022, 12:06:13 AM

The final ODI was one-sided as expected. The Indian batsmen and bowlers were on fire throughout the match despite rain interruptions.

Looks like my predictions were spot-on throughout this ODI series and I won all my bets. The odds for India were decent throughout this series(Winner Overall, Individual match winners etc).

West Indies are not performing well in ODI series, it is not only against India's, I have also seen before that they are surrendering to Bangladesh. I think they need to be more experienced to play ODIs. After all i have to say India roared in this match. Currently one of the Indian players Shubman Gill did not get the century for 2 runs but he introduce himself as a talented one. I think India has been able to revive their old cricket where they are all the best.

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The West Indians had no chance of winning the match, the target was quite large. I believe the West Indies obviously should have done better on the batting order. But because of the weather, that pitch became a lot more bowling friendly in my opinion. The way Indian bowlers bowled West Indies, they really have no chance in my opinion. West Indies did try to score runs as quickly as possible obviously because they had the DLS method in their mind. But that did not help them at all. Because that only resulted in them losing quick wickets. And no West Indies batsmen could continue the winning streak, even though a few of them got an excellent start.

West Indies was a complete failure in all the departments - batting, bowling and fielding. And they lack quality players such as Pollard and Russell, who can singlehandedly win matches for them. Jason Holder was part of the playing XI, but there is a limit up to which he can do. Anyway, from tomorrow onwards, the T20I series will start. This is the strongest format for West Indies and Indian squad is missing some of the regular players. There will be a total of 5 matches and for the West Indians this series represents a golden opportunity to get even against India.

There are times when there are very bad conditions in the team and that was the case for the West Indies.Lately West Indies is having a very bad season. West Indies face India again from tomorrow for T20 match.But there are many good players in West Indies like playing T20 matches.I hope West Indies will play very well in T20 against India.

India is a good team if we talk about T20 format. West Indies is also favorite in this short format and they have ability to chase any team. I think West Indies are T20 specialist and they can fight with any team in this format. I hope they will spend good times in their next series.

India and West Indies are two very strong teams in T20 format.India is very strong in all aspects.But we have enjoyed West Indies T20 game before, they are very strong team for T20 game.But when the game starts tomorrow, of course we will request and see which team can give the best performance.

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The West Indians had no chance of winning the match, the target was quite large. I believe the West Indies obviously should have done better on the batting order. But because of the weather, that pitch became a lot more bowling friendly in my opinion. The way Indian bowlers bowled West Indies, they really have no chance in my opinion. West Indies did try to score runs as quickly as possible obviously because they had the DLS method in their mind. But that did not help them at all. Because that only resulted in them losing quick wickets. And no West Indies batsmen could continue the winning streak, even though a few of them got an excellent start.

West Indies was a complete failure in all the departments - batting, bowling and fielding. And they lack quality players such as Pollard and Russell, who can singlehandedly win matches for them. Jason Holder was part of the playing XI, but there is a limit up to which he can do. Anyway, from tomorrow onwards, the T20I series will start. This is the strongest format for West Indies and Indian squad is missing some of the regular players. There will be a total of 5 matches and for the West Indians this series represents a golden opportunity to get even against India.

There are times when there are very bad conditions in the team and that was the case for the West Indies.Lately West Indies is having a very bad season. West Indies face India again from tomorrow for T20 match.But there are many good players in West Indies like playing T20 matches.I hope West Indies will play very well in T20 against India.

India is a good team if we talk about T20 format. West Indies is also favorite in this short format and they have ability to chase any team. I think West Indies are T20 specialist and they can fight with any team in this format. I hope they will spend good times in their next series.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 28, 2022, 10:44:26 AM

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The West Indians had no chance of winning the match, the target was quite large. I believe the West Indies obviously should have done better on the batting order. But because of the weather, that pitch became a lot more bowling friendly in my opinion. The way Indian bowlers bowled West Indies, they really have no chance in my opinion. West Indies did try to score runs as quickly as possible obviously because they had the DLS method in their mind. But that did not help them at all. Because that only resulted in them losing quick wickets. And no West Indies batsmen could continue the winning streak, even though a few of them got an excellent start.

West Indies was a complete failure in all the departments - batting, bowling and fielding. And they lack quality players such as Pollard and Russell, who can singlehandedly win matches for them. Jason Holder was part of the playing XI, but there is a limit up to which he can do. Anyway, from tomorrow onwards, the T20I series will start. This is the strongest format for West Indies and Indian squad is missing some of the regular players. There will be a total of 5 matches and for the West Indians this series represents a golden opportunity to get even against India.

There are times when there are very bad conditions in the team and that was the case for the West Indies.Lately West Indies is having a very bad season. West Indies face India again from tomorrow for T20 match.But there are many good players in West Indies like playing T20 matches.I hope West Indies will play very well in T20 against India.

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As the match was stopped due to rain, D/L started the game.Yesterday's game in D/L format gave West Indies a target of 257 runs in 35 overs.But West Indies lost all their wickets before 35 overs.It is very difficult to score 257 runs in 35 overs. But because West Indies were playing like T20, they lost all the wickets.If there is too much pressure in the game, then the match is never guaranteed to win, and yesterday's match was like that.

Kyle Mayers and Shamarh Brooks were back in the pavilion with zero runs on board. Nicholas Pooran and Brandon King played in their natural style, and in the end, West Indies got bundled out with 9 overs to spare. In T20 format, they have a chance because most of the West Indian batsmen are suitable for short bursts of fire. But in ODI cricket, there is a need to build the innings and form partnerships. And to be honest, I don't think that anyone in the current West Indian squad are capable of doing that.

After watching the performance of yesterday's match, I feel that we will see dominance of Indian players in T20 format as well. The target of yesterday's match was not very high. If the West Indies players had batted like T20 then there was a chance of winning this match. But West Indies players have shown very bad batting. It doesn't look like West Indies will be able to play well in T20 format. Indian bowlers have performed well in every match.

West Indies can do a lot better in T20. But West Indies is a very perfect team to play T20.But if we look at the past T20 matches, it is definitely not like throwing West Indies at once.But we can see the T20 match between India and West Indies in the coming days. But I hope India will perform well in T20I as well as in ODIs.And we will certainly believe that by playing on the field.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 28, 2022, 02:24:27 AM

Quote from: Rigon on July 28, 2022, 01:45:22 AM

As the match was stopped due to rain, D/L started the game.Yesterday's game in D/L format gave West Indies a target of 257 runs in 35 overs.But West Indies lost all their wickets before 35 overs.It is very difficult to score 257 runs in 35 overs. But because West Indies were playing like T20, they lost all the wickets.If there is too much pressure in the game, then the match is never guaranteed to win, and yesterday's match was like that.

Kyle Mayers and Shamarh Brooks were back in the pavilion with zero runs on board. Nicholas Pooran and Brandon King played in their natural style, and in the end, West Indies got bundled out with 9 overs to spare. In T20 format, they have a chance because most of the West Indian batsmen are suitable for short bursts of fire. But in ODI cricket, there is a need to build the innings and form partnerships. And to be honest, I don't think that anyone in the current West Indian squad are capable of doing that.

After watching the performance of yesterday's match, I feel that we will see dominance of Indian players in T20 format as well. The target of yesterday's match was not very high. If the West Indies players had batted like T20 then there was a chance of winning this match. But West Indies players have shown very bad batting. It doesn't look like West Indies will be able to play well in T20 format. Indian bowlers have performed well in every match.

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Quote from: minairia3 on July 28, 2022, 10:04:45 AM

The West Indians had no chance of winning the match, the target was quite large. I believe the West Indies obviously should have done better on the batting order. But because of the weather, that pitch became a lot more bowling friendly in my opinion. The way Indian bowlers bowled West Indies, they really have no chance in my opinion. West Indies did try to score runs as quickly as possible obviously because they had the DLS method in their mind. But that did not help them at all. Because that only resulted in them losing quick wickets. And no West Indies batsmen could continue the winning streak, even though a few of them got an excellent start.

West Indies was a complete failure in all the departments - batting, bowling and fielding. And they lack quality players such as Pollard and Russell, who can singlehandedly win matches for them. Jason Holder was part of the playing XI, but there is a limit up to which he can do. Anyway, from tomorrow onwards, the T20I series will start. This is the strongest format for West Indies and Indian squad is missing some of the regular players. There will be a total of 5 matches and for the West Indians this series represents a golden opportunity to get even against India.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 28, 2022, 02:24:27 AM

Quote from: Rigon on July 28, 2022, 01:45:22 AM

As the match was stopped due to rain, D/L started the game.Yesterday's game in D/L format gave West Indies a target of 257 runs in 35 overs.But West Indies lost all their wickets before 35 overs.It is very difficult to score 257 runs in 35 overs. But because West Indies were playing like T20, they lost all the wickets.If there is too much pressure in the game, then the match is never guaranteed to win, and yesterday's match was like that.

Kyle Mayers and Shamarh Brooks were back in the pavilion with zero runs on board. Nicholas Pooran and Brandon King played in their natural style, and in the end, West Indies got bundled out with 9 overs to spare. In T20 format, they have a chance because most of the West Indian batsmen are suitable for short bursts of fire. But in ODI cricket, there is a need to build the innings and form partnerships. And to be honest, I don't think that anyone in the current West Indian squad are capable of doing that.

The West Indians had no chance of winning the match, the target was quite large. I believe the West Indies obviously should have done better on the batting order. But because of the weather, that pitch became a lot more bowling friendly in my opinion. The way Indian bowlers bowled West Indies, they really have no chance in my opinion. West Indies did try to score runs as quickly as possible obviously because they had the DLS method in their mind. But that did not help them at all. Because that only resulted in them losing quick wickets. And no West Indies batsmen could continue the winning streak, even though a few of them got an excellent start.

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Quote from: Rigon on July 28, 2022, 01:45:22 AM

As the match was stopped due to rain, D/L started the game.Yesterday's game in D/L format gave West Indies a target of 257 runs in 35 overs.But West Indies lost all their wickets before 35 overs.It is very difficult to score 257 runs in 35 overs. But because West Indies were playing like T20, they lost all the wickets.If there is too much pressure in the game, then the match is never guaranteed to win, and yesterday's match was like that.

Kyle Mayers and Shamarh Brooks were back in the pavilion with zero runs on board. Nicholas Pooran and Brandon King played in their natural style, and in the end, West Indies got bundled out with 9 overs to spare. In T20 format, they have a chance because most of the West Indian batsmen are suitable for short bursts of fire. But in ODI cricket, there is a need to build the innings and form partnerships. And to be honest, I don't think that anyone in the current West Indian squad are capable of doing that.

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The final ODI was one-sided as expected. The Indian batsmen and bowlers were on fire throughout the match despite rain interruptions.

Looks like my predictions were spot-on throughout this ODI series and I won all my bets. The odds for India were decent throughout this series(Winner Overall, Individual match winners etc).

West Indies never had any chance to begin with. They are in perpetual decline. Back in 1990s, they could take on any of the big-3 teams, and they had the best pace bowlers at that time. Even a decade back, they were a decent squad, with players such as Chris Gayle. But now they don't have any players who can win them matches. And WICB is famous for mistreating their players based on their nationality, skin color and religion. See what they did with Shivnarine Chanderpaul. Ravindranath Rampaul was told that he couldn't be included in the national team, because he doesn't "look" West Indian.

As the match was stopped due to rain, D/L started the game.Yesterday's game in D/L format gave West Indies a target of 257 runs in 35 overs.But West Indies lost all their wickets before 35 overs.It is very difficult to score 257 runs in 35 overs. But because West Indies were playing like T20, they lost all the wickets.If there is too much pressure in the game, then the match is never guaranteed to win, and yesterday's match was like that.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 28, 2022, 12:06:13 AM

The final ODI was one-sided as expected. The Indian batsmen and bowlers were on fire throughout the match despite rain interruptions.

Looks like my predictions were spot-on throughout this ODI series and I won all my bets. The odds for India were decent throughout this series(Winner Overall, Individual match winners etc).

West Indies never had any chance to begin with. They are in perpetual decline. Back in 1990s, they could take on any of the big-3 teams, and they had the best pace bowlers at that time. Even a decade back, they were a decent squad, with players such as Chris Gayle. But now they don't have any players who can win them matches. And WICB is famous for mistreating their players based on their nationality, skin color and religion. See what they did with Shivnarine Chanderpaul. Ravindranath Rampaul was told that he couldn't be included in the national team, because he doesn't "look" West Indian.

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The final ODI was one-sided as expected. The Indian batsmen and bowlers were on fire throughout the match despite rain interruptions.

Looks like my predictions were spot-on throughout this ODI series and I won all my bets. The odds for India were decent throughout this series(Winner Overall, Individual match winners etc).

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India collected only 37 runs in 8 overs. India will have to give a target of 320 to win today. West Indies batsmen are in good form. So it will be very difficult for India to win on such a pitch with a target below 300

Bet on India in this match. They scored around 87 runs now in 17 overs which is decent and they will accelerate pretty soon. I feel that they might reach something close to 350 due to the depth of their batting line-up.
West Indies will need to bat spectacularly if they wish to defeat India in this final ODI. Let's see what happens.

India collected only 115 runs in 24 overs. Although India lost only 1 wicket. But their run rate is now only 4.79. So I don't see any possibility of a run like 350. However, the match is being delayed due to rain. There is no guarantee when the match will be played again. It has been raining for a long time. The match is likely to be abandoned.

India vs West Indies 3rd ODI Match.
Today's match is suspended due to rain. If there is more difficulty, they can declare today's match abandoned.India scored 115 runs losing 1 wicket after playing 24 overs.As the game is stopped due to rain, if the overs are reduced at this moment, India will most likely lose to the West Indies.But India can run relatively well today.

As the match was delayed due to rain, the target for West Indies was 257 runs in 35 overs, according to the D/L method. Although 257 runs in 35 overs are not easy, as West Indies are a good enough team in the T20 format, they might try to win the match. But they lost all the wickets for just 137 runs. Chahal took 4 wickets for just 17 runs. Indian bowlers have been performing quite well in this series.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 27, 2022, 09:54:22 PM

Indian selectors will be worried now. Some of their bench players have performed beyond expectation and now it will be difficult to drop them once the regular players are available. Shubman Gill, Deepak Hooda and Axar Patel made use of their chances to the fullest extent. Yuzvendra Chahal proved once again that he is one of the top spinners in India, at least for the T20 format. But this is not applicable for Sanju Samson. He got a chance after long wait, and still he couldn't make use of it. Now Rishabh Pant and Ishan Kishan will continue as the first choice keeper batsmen for India.

Great outing for the new guys as a whole team, some say it's good to have such headaches but surely selectors hardly enjoy when they sit around the table because if you pick winning team then no one is going to write op-eds as you already have an excellent bench strength but if team loses then selectors are the first to face any backlace, that's where nepotism-favoritism accusation surface among fans.

Feel bad for Gill, he again missed out his maiden ton, again! This guy can't catch a break. Having said that i felt he was bit selfish as soon as he touched the 90's. Before he was going at nice pace but slowed down his inning for a ton. It was dead rubber so it doesn't matter much but situation could have been very different if it was important match.

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