Author

Topic: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] - page 880. (Read 161259 times)

hero member
Activity: 2646
Merit: 686
I think the chance of Umran Malik cementing his position in the national squad is pretty high at the moment. He has been already selected for the T20 between SA which will be played in India. I feel if he performs well in the T20 squad then he might also get into the ODI squad which basically will cement his position. Another advantage for him to getting a permanent position in the Indian squad is that he is a fast pacer and not a medium pacer.  
One of his deliveries in the IPL was clocked at 157 kmph. I believe that this is the fastest an Indian has ever bowled in any format of cricket. He is just 22 years old and in case he can cement his place in the Indian team, then I am sure that he will go a long way. But with all the bowlers who bowls at such a pace, injury should be a concern. Just one major injury and his career will be gone. I have seen this so many times, and international cricket lost a lot of promising express pace bowlers due to injury. Jofra Archer is the latest one.

I actually think he has decent enough skill with the best that he can generate. but it will be wrong to hype him up too much because we have seen a lot of youngsters getting hyped up too much and not performing as he was expected later. and he has to maintain fitness really well because it is really easy for fast bowlers to get injured.

I believe that he’ll secure his place under Dravid (Indian coach) mentoring, and if he continues to follow Dravid’s instructions then there’s a huge possibility that he’ll develop into one of the best bowlers we have seen till date. However he should be told to ignore the expectations and just focus on his natural game, because the weight of expectations can harm his game and lastly I hope that team India will carefully groom him and help him deal with this newfound stardom.
hero member
Activity: 2156
Merit: 803
Top Crypto Casino
I think the chance of Umran Malik cementing his position in the national squad is pretty high at the moment. He has been already selected for the T20 between SA which will be played in India. I feel if he performs well in the T20 squad then he might also get into the ODI squad which basically will cement his position. Another advantage for him to getting a permanent position in the Indian squad is that he is a fast pacer and not a medium pacer. 

One of his deliveries in the IPL was clocked at 157 kmph. I believe that this is the fastest an Indian has ever bowled in any format of cricket. He is just 22 years old and in case he can cement his place in the Indian team, then I am sure that he will go a long way. But with all the bowlers who bowls at such a pace, injury should be a concern. Just one major injury and his career will be gone. I have seen this so many times, and international cricket lost a lot of promising express pace bowlers due to injury. Jofra Archer is the latest one.
Yes, fast bowlers are prone to injuries but there have been players bowlers who have made their mark in history during their short span career. I expect the same from this guy too and at the moment he is only 22 and can go without any major injuries for another 3 or 4 years. The most important aspect to stay injury free for a fast bowlers is good diet and fitness which I am sure he is knows well.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1352
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I actually think he has decent enough skill with the best that he can generate. but it will be wrong to hype him up too much because we have seen a lot of youngsters getting hyped up too much and not performing as he was expected later. and he has to maintain fitness really well because it is really easy for fast bowlers to get injured.

In a politically charged country such as India, there is another danger of being dragged in to one of the ideological camps. Most of the Indians keep politics out of sports, but sometimes things get tricky. Recently one of the politicians from a pro-Muslim party demanded that Umran Malik should be included in the national team (that was before he was selected for the T20 squad).

https://twitter.com/ShashiTharoor/status/1515667247762927621

I believe that these incidents do more harm to the prospects of this player rather than good. He will be stereotyped as representing just one community and obviously there will be polarization from the opposite camp. Why can't these stupid politicians stay away from cricket?
sr. member
Activity: 700
Merit: 250
Vave.com - Crypto Casino
I think the chance of Umran Malik cementing his position in the national squad is pretty high at the moment. He has been already selected for the T20 between SA which will be played in India. I feel if he performs well in the T20 squad then he might also get into the ODI squad which basically will cement his position. Another advantage for him to getting a permanent position in the Indian squad is that he is a fast pacer and not a medium pacer. 
One of his deliveries in the IPL was clocked at 157 kmph. I believe that this is the fastest an Indian has ever bowled in any format of cricket. He is just 22 years old and in case he can cement his place in the Indian team, then I am sure that he will go a long way. But with all the bowlers who bowls at such a pace, injury should be a concern. Just one major injury and his career will be gone. I have seen this so many times, and international cricket lost a lot of promising express pace bowlers due to injury. Jofra Archer is the latest one.

I actually think he has decent enough skill with the best that he can generate. but it will be wrong to hype him up too much because we have seen a lot of youngsters getting hyped up too much and not performing as he was expected later. and he has to maintain fitness really well because it is really easy for fast bowlers to get injured.
sr. member
Activity: 1610
Merit: 301
*STOP NOWHERE*
The problem with Bumrah is that once he starts getting hit for boundaries, it is really hard for him to get back into the aggressive rhythm that he generally likes. But for Muhammad Shami, I think the major problem is that he generally balls a little too short for my liking. He has to concentrate a lot on his length and I think he is good. I think it is really necessary to give time or I should say invest time into the future and really recognize which youngster face bowler is going to do well and all of the rising youngsters should be given enough chances.
Agreed on Bumrah. Once he is under pressure, he loses his rhythm. That never happens with Shami, as he is more cool headed. And regarding short pitched deliveries from Shami, I guess he do that because he plays a lot of test matches. Such bowling style is not very suitable in limited overs cricket, but he hasn't done that bad in T20 and ODI. Anyway, I believe that the Indian selectors should look at the younger bowlers as a suitable replacement for Shami/Bumrah/Ishant in the long term. Enough chances were given to bowlers such as Siraj and they haven't performed up to the mark. Now it is time to give such chances to pacers such as Umran and Avesh.

Yes, I also believe that Indians should really look at their young prospects and nurtured them well because this current generation is not getting any younger. I think that Bumrah has some good years of service left for India but he alone is not going to be enough and he will also not be in good form always. I am not talking about the youngsters that have been given chances after chances and they still could not deliver, I am talking about the youngsters fresh out of the blocks.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1352
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I think the chance of Umran Malik cementing his position in the national squad is pretty high at the moment. He has been already selected for the T20 between SA which will be played in India. I feel if he performs well in the T20 squad then he might also get into the ODI squad which basically will cement his position. Another advantage for him to getting a permanent position in the Indian squad is that he is a fast pacer and not a medium pacer. 

One of his deliveries in the IPL was clocked at 157 kmph. I believe that this is the fastest an Indian has ever bowled in any format of cricket. He is just 22 years old and in case he can cement his place in the Indian team, then I am sure that he will go a long way. But with all the bowlers who bowls at such a pace, injury should be a concern. Just one major injury and his career will be gone. I have seen this so many times, and international cricket lost a lot of promising express pace bowlers due to injury. Jofra Archer is the latest one.
hero member
Activity: 2156
Merit: 803
Top Crypto Casino
I do not think for now Kohli can influence the selection of players as he is no longer the captain of the team. I do feel that Indian team as a whole unit is a mix of aggressive and calm individuals. Bhumrah is a completely different bowlers you cannot compare him with either Shami or Ishant. He has the ability to perform under pressure which most Indian bowlers are unable to. Ishant Sharma is a good bowler but has been affected by injuries and that is one of the reason why he is not so consistent in his performance. Shami and Bumrah combination has always proved to be deadly for the other team.

Well.. I would disagree. IMO, Shami is more consistent when compared to Bumrah. He is more cool headed and performs better under pressure IMO. Bumrah is faster, but sometimes he loses control over the ball. And regarding Ishant, I agree that he is prone to injuries. Also, Ishant requires some assistance from the pitch and doesn't perform very well in flat tracks. A number of younger pacers are coming up, including Umran Malik, Avesh Khan and Mohsin Khan. It needs to be seen who will raise to international level and stay there consistently.

I think the chance of Umran Malik cementing his position in the national squad is pretty high at the moment. He has been already selected for the T20 between SA which will be played in India. I feel if he performs well in the T20 squad then he might also get into the ODI squad which basically will cement his position. Another advantage for him to getting a permanent position in the Indian squad is that he is a fast pacer and not a medium pacer. 
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1352
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
The problem with Bumrah is that once he starts getting hit for boundaries, it is really hard for him to get back into the aggressive rhythm that he generally likes. But for Muhammad Shami, I think the major problem is that he generally balls a little too short for my liking. He has to concentrate a lot on his length and I think he is good. I think it is really necessary to give time or I should say invest time into the future and really recognize which youngster face bowler is going to do well and all of the rising youngsters should be given enough chances.

Agreed on Bumrah. Once he is under pressure, he loses his rhythm. That never happens with Shami, as he is more cool headed. And regarding short pitched deliveries from Shami, I guess he do that because he plays a lot of test matches. Such bowling style is not very suitable in limited overs cricket, but he hasn't done that bad in T20 and ODI. Anyway, I believe that the Indian selectors should look at the younger bowlers as a suitable replacement for Shami/Bumrah/Ishant in the long term. Enough chances were given to bowlers such as Siraj and they haven't performed up to the mark. Now it is time to give such chances to pacers such as Umran and Avesh.
hero member
Activity: 1680
Merit: 505
Don't think he is going to be as effective from the start but once he gets used to his new bowling action I am expecting good things from him. And I really believe that he had some really good potential and I hope that this certain problem does not take the potential away from him at all.

First it will be interesting to see whether he is cleared with his new action or not. Till date I don't remember any success story of fast bowler that came with corrected bowling action. Hasnain has not played much international cricket so far only 8 ODIs and 18 T20I, he was quick with his old action let's see whether he maintained that quickness with new action.
sr. member
Activity: 1610
Merit: 301
*STOP NOWHERE*
I do not think for now Kohli can influence the selection of players as he is no longer the captain of the team. I do feel that Indian team as a whole unit is a mix of aggressive and calm individuals. Bhumrah is a completely different bowlers you cannot compare him with either Shami or Ishant. He has the ability to perform under pressure which most Indian bowlers are unable to. Ishant Sharma is a good bowler but has been affected by injuries and that is one of the reason why he is not so consistent in his performance. Shami and Bumrah combination has always proved to be deadly for the other team.

Well.. I would disagree. IMO, Shami is more consistent when compared to Bumrah. He is more cool headed and performs better under pressure IMO. Bumrah is faster, but sometimes he loses control over the ball. And regarding Ishant, I agree that he is prone to injuries. Also, Ishant requires some assistance from the pitch and doesn't perform very well in flat tracks. A number of younger pacers are coming up, including Umran Malik, Avesh Khan and Mohsin Khan. It needs to be seen who will raise to international level and stay there consistently.

The problem with Bumrah is that once he starts getting hit for boundaries, it is really hard for him to get back into the aggressive rhythm that he generally likes. But for Muhammad Shami, I think the major problem is that he generally balls a little too short for my liking. He has to concentrate a lot on his length and I think he is good. I think it is really necessary to give time or I should say invest time into the future and really recognize which youngster face bowler is going to do well and all of the rising youngsters should be given enough chances.
full member
Activity: 952
Merit: 108
1xBit recovered their reputation
Indian bowlers have always been very polite and calm-natured. Except for the recent era of course. To be honest they have seen other teams sledging and having a good result and I think they are trying that themselves but sometimes they can often cross the line. And the funny thing is the bowlers who actually cross the line are not actually that good at their job Cheesy.
Even now there are bowlers who are calm and straight forward. I am talking about guys such as Ishant, Shami and Natarajan. And IMO, Ishant and Shami are the two best Indian pace bowlers at the moment. I would rate them ahead of Bumrah, in terms of variation and consistency. But then, the Indian team is a mix of old school guys and the new aggressive ones. I don't care, as long as the combination works well. But what bothers me is the undue influence guys such as Kohli are having on the team. If someone like Shami is made the captain, that will benefit the team in a big way.
I do not think for now Kohli can influence the selection of players as he is no longer the captain of the team. I do feel that Indian team as a whole unit is a mix of aggressive and calm individuals. Bhumrah is a completely different bowlers you cannot compare him with either Shami or Ishant. He has the ability to perform under pressure which most Indian bowlers are unable to. Ishant Sharma is a good bowler but has been affected by injuries and that is one of the reason why he is not so consistent in his performance. Shami and Bumrah combination has always proved to be deadly for the other team.

Muhammad Shami is someone whom I have always liked because he has a very simple run-up and action and still he can move the ball both ways. And unlike most other bowlers he can move the ball off the pitch. Along with Bhumrah, these two can be really deadly for the opposition. And to be honest I have not seen these two act bad at all in the field. Maybe some exceptions can be made for Bhumrah but not in the case of Shami.
sr. member
Activity: 700
Merit: 250
Vave.com - Crypto Casino
Anyone remember Mohammad Hasnain? The young Pakistani fast bowler who is suspended from bowling in international cricket due to his illegal bowling action. After 3 months of hard work, Muhammad Hasnain has undergone test with his new bowling action and result of this test is expected in 2 weeks. Let's hope something positive come for this young man.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/mohammad-hasnain-undergoes-official-bowling-test-to-revive-international-career-1316180

Don't think he is going to be as effective from the start but once he gets used to his new bowling action I am expecting good things from him. And I really believe that he had some really good potential and I hope that this certain problem does not take the potential away from him at all.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1352
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I do not think for now Kohli can influence the selection of players as he is no longer the captain of the team. I do feel that Indian team as a whole unit is a mix of aggressive and calm individuals. Bhumrah is a completely different bowlers you cannot compare him with either Shami or Ishant. He has the ability to perform under pressure which most Indian bowlers are unable to. Ishant Sharma is a good bowler but has been affected by injuries and that is one of the reason why he is not so consistent in his performance. Shami and Bumrah combination has always proved to be deadly for the other team.

Well.. I would disagree. IMO, Shami is more consistent when compared to Bumrah. He is more cool headed and performs better under pressure IMO. Bumrah is faster, but sometimes he loses control over the ball. And regarding Ishant, I agree that he is prone to injuries. Also, Ishant requires some assistance from the pitch and doesn't perform very well in flat tracks. A number of younger pacers are coming up, including Umran Malik, Avesh Khan and Mohsin Khan. It needs to be seen who will raise to international level and stay there consistently.
hero member
Activity: 2156
Merit: 803
Top Crypto Casino
Indian bowlers have always been very polite and calm-natured. Except for the recent era of course. To be honest they have seen other teams sledging and having a good result and I think they are trying that themselves but sometimes they can often cross the line. And the funny thing is the bowlers who actually cross the line are not actually that good at their job Cheesy.

Even now there are bowlers who are calm and straight forward. I am talking about guys such as Ishant, Shami and Natarajan. And IMO, Ishant and Shami are the two best Indian pace bowlers at the moment. I would rate them ahead of Bumrah, in terms of variation and consistency. But then, the Indian team is a mix of old school guys and the new aggressive ones. I don't care, as long as the combination works well. But what bothers me is the undue influence guys such as Kohli are having on the team. If someone like Shami is made the captain, that will benefit the team in a big way.
I do not think for now Kohli can influence the selection of players as he is no longer the captain of the team. I do feel that Indian team as a whole unit is a mix of aggressive and calm individuals. Bhumrah is a completely different bowlers you cannot compare him with either Shami or Ishant. He has the ability to perform under pressure which most Indian bowlers are unable to. Ishant Sharma is a good bowler but has been affected by injuries and that is one of the reason why he is not so consistent in his performance. Shami and Bumrah combination has always proved to be deadly for the other team.
sr. member
Activity: 952
Merit: 281
Anyone remember Mohammad Hasnain? The young Pakistani fast bowler who is suspended from bowling in international cricket due to his illegal bowling action. After 3 months of hard work, Muhammad Hasnain has undergone test with his new bowling action and result of this test is expected in 2 weeks. Let's hope something positive come for this young man.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/mohammad-hasnain-undergoes-official-bowling-test-to-revive-international-career-1316180
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1352
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Indian bowlers have always been very polite and calm-natured. Except for the recent era of course. To be honest they have seen other teams sledging and having a good result and I think they are trying that themselves but sometimes they can often cross the line. And the funny thing is the bowlers who actually cross the line are not actually that good at their job Cheesy.

Even now there are bowlers who are calm and straight forward. I am talking about guys such as Ishant, Shami and Natarajan. And IMO, Ishant and Shami are the two best Indian pace bowlers at the moment. I would rate them ahead of Bumrah, in terms of variation and consistency. But then, the Indian team is a mix of old school guys and the new aggressive ones. I don't care, as long as the combination works well. But what bothers me is the undue influence guys such as Kohli are having on the team. If someone like Shami is made the captain, that will benefit the team in a big way.
hero member
Activity: 2310
Merit: 532
Enterapp Pre-Sale Live - bit.ly/3UrMCWI

Indian bowlers have always been very polite and calm-natured. Except for the recent era of course. To be honest they have seen other teams sledging and having a good result and I think they are trying that themselves but sometimes they can often cross the line. And the funny thing is the bowlers who actually cross the line are not actually that good at their job Cheesy.
We cant label - that indian bowlers are polite - there have been incidents when they lost their temper on the field as well.
Well sports is a game of emotion as well. So its okie if the player loose a temper. Also the climate change is one of the reasons of mood change too. Has anyone noticed that?
Mood swings might happen, but this won't be happening out of the climate change. When matches go closer, mood swings and players used to react on the field. Indian team have good record on the home ground and gets disturbed when playing abroad. Under the captaincy of Dhoni it is very rare to see such instances of bowlers making statement on batsmen as well as starring the batsmen.
sr. member
Activity: 1554
Merit: 260

Indian bowlers have always been very polite and calm-natured. Except for the recent era of course. To be honest they have seen other teams sledging and having a good result and I think they are trying that themselves but sometimes they can often cross the line. And the funny thing is the bowlers who actually cross the line are not actually that good at their job Cheesy.
We cant label - that indian bowlers are polite - there have been incidents when they lost their temper on the field as well.
Well sports is a game of emotion as well. So its okie if the player loose a temper. Also the climate change is one of the reasons of mood change too. Has anyone noticed that?
full member
Activity: 952
Merit: 108
1xBit recovered their reputation
India was struggling to find fast bowlers during that period and when Javagal Srinath made his debut he was aggressive and had pace but he was not involved in any tantrums. The first Indian bowler that started giving back sledging was Sreesanth and now a days majority of the Indian bowlers does that.
I guess Srinath was the only bowler back then who could bowl at speeds of greater than 90 mph. Others such as Prasad and Mohanty struggled even to reach the 80 mph mark. But in terms of attitude, all of them were known to be mild natured. Even the generation of pace bowlers who came after the Srinath-Prasad era, such as Zaheer Khan maintained this reputation. Sreesanth was an exception, and he went overboard at times. And that was the reason why his own team members went against him. Kohli even gave him a nickname of "Appam Chutiya".

Indian bowlers have always been very polite and calm-natured. Except for the recent era of course. To be honest they have seen other teams sledging and having a good result and I think they are trying that themselves but sometimes they can often cross the line. And the funny thing is the bowlers who actually cross the line are not actually that good at their job Cheesy.
hero member
Activity: 1680
Merit: 505
I guess Srinath was the only bowler back then who could bowl at speeds of greater than 90 mph. Others such as Prasad and Mohanty struggled even to reach the 80 mph mark. But in terms of attitude, all of them were known to be mild natured. Even the generation of pace bowlers who came after the Srinath-Prasad era, such as Zaheer Khan maintained this reputation. Sreesanth was an exception, and he went overboard at times. And that was the reason why his own team members went against him. Kohli even gave him a nickname of "Appam Chutiya".

Sreesanth despite his casual attitude manages to play 27 test and 53 ODIs for India, I still remember the drama HD created in King's 11 Punjab match. In 90s cricket was game of gentlemen and there were scores of decent players like Srinath and Prasad.
Jump to: