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Quote from: KennyR on February 26, 2022, 12:29:14 PM

Bangladesh is much experienced compared to Afghanistan. In specific it has got experience playing against top teams, which have given the players more tricks and techniques to handle situations. Afghanistan cricket needs more support, and Bangladesh team is in a better position as mentioned.

Both the countries are coming from completely different environment as currently Afghanistan players are no able to play domestic games at home, and they have many issues related to their selection and finances with Bangladesh are now currently having some good experience but still they are not able to have some solid foundation for hunting better talent and have some good domestic set up as someone already mentions their local system is very corrupt and many bad things happening.

So, it is a massive concern because if they want to have some better results and better financial system they need to do some hard work and bring transparency which help them for having strong back up and quality for good fight against top ranked teams but sadly right now system is not good in any Asian country just India enjoying with some better financial advantage but have no strong domestic set up.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on February 26, 2022, 11:02:27 AM

And another thing is Bangladesh has much more global exposure than Afghanistan. Shakib Al Hasan, Mustafizur Rahman has played League cricket all around the world. From there they have achieved so much experience. And also the facility of Bangladesh cricket is far better than Afghanistan in my opinion.

Bangladesh is much experienced compared to Afghanistan. In specific it has got experience playing against top teams, which have given the players more tricks and techniques to handle situations. Afghanistan cricket needs more support, and Bangladesh team is in a better position as mentioned.

Quote from: laurenB7742 on February 26, 2022, 11:02:27 AM

In Afghanistan, there are a lot of problems. The country itself is in a rebuilding state at the moment. This team is still quite good and just needs a few Good batsmen to play for the team. After that, if the dream is properly nurtured I think the team is going to be one of the best in the world.

Even with lots of internal problems within the country Afghanistan is trying to do the best. In the ODI series they've done better than before, and possibly Afghanistan will mark its win on the T20 cricket.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 25, 2022, 09:52:35 PM

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Afghanistan is not a full fledged test playing team while Bangladesh is a regular test playing country. So performing good against an associate team does not prove the fact that Bangladesh is very good at home conditions. Bangladesh were recently whitewashed by Pak in Test and T20Is at there home grounds. Afghanistan is an underdog in this series.

At least in name, Afghanistan is a test playing nation and can't be compared with the smaller associate nations. They receive around $5 million every year from the ICC, which is tens of times higher when compared to what the associate nations such as Nepal receive. But that amount is only one-third of what Bangladesh receive every year from the ICC (~$15 million per year). Anyway, when it comes to test cricket both these nations have performed poorly. And Bangladesh has remained in this position despite being a test nation for more than two decades.

The majority of Bangladesh players did not have the physique before to play test cricket in my opinion. We could just look at the body of the players Cheesy

and say that they are not fit at all.

But now the players have become really careful and conscious about their physique. And I think also in recent times we have seen Bangladesh do quite well in test cricket. But, the overall performance of Bangladesh in test cricket is quite bad. and they even lost the first match against Afghanistan (first match for Afghanistan).

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Afghanistan is not a full fledged test playing team while Bangladesh is a regular test playing country. So performing good against an associate team does not prove the fact that Bangladesh is very good at home conditions. Bangladesh were recently whitewashed by Pak in Test and T20Is at there home grounds. Afghanistan is an underdog in this series.

Even Bangladesh were whitewashed at home against Pakistan, but their reply were also very strong, and they beat World Test Champions at their home and draw a series it is one of the best by them and now in last two ODI's they are doing very good job even Afghanistan is also new and have no enough experience, but they are very good team with some good all-rounder and bowlers.

But, sadly they have some batting issues and second thing is they are still under making process, so It's going to be taken some time as they have some good experience surely they are going to be best team around globe even I can say they will be much better than Bangladesh because they many natural talented players those are performing in many franchisees and taking good lessons for their national team and better future.

And another thing is Bangladesh has much more global exposure than Afghanistan. Shakib Al Hasan, Mustafizur Rahman has played League cricket all around the world. From there they have achieved so much experience. And also the facility of Bangladesh cricket is far better than Afghanistan in my opinion.

In Afghanistan, there are a lot of problems. The country itself is in a rebuilding state at the moment. This team is still quite good and just needs a few Good batsmen to play for the team. After that, if the dream is properly nurtured I think the team is going to be one of the best in the world.

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Quote from: galambo on February 25, 2022, 12:54:25 PM

Afghanistan is not a full fledged test playing team while Bangladesh is a regular test playing country. So performing good against an associate team does not prove the fact that Bangladesh is very good at home conditions. Bangladesh were recently whitewashed by Pak in Test and T20Is at there home grounds. Afghanistan is an underdog in this series.

With the popularity of short formats now it's very hard for few countries to have better result in this test format because it needs some good patience and better technique which are time-consuming things and new breed of cricketers love to enjoy ODI and t20, so test failure is increasing for new countries very strongly.

Bangladesh is not giving time in domestic set up which is also very important for this and Afghanistan is not able to play this at home, so they are just enjoying short format but still have some good players for giving good response in test format, but I am feeling they will be not good enough in near future until they also have some strong domestic set up which help their players for having some good experience in this format for better success ratio. Right now, we have strong domestic set up in very few countries, so they are enjoying good in all formats.

Bangladesh has always had problems in test cricket. The best form of cricket in which Bangladesh plays really well in the one-day international.

In T20 Bangladesh is below average in my opinion, in test cricket to be honest Bangladesh absolutely sucks. one of the big reasons for this is because Bangladesh doesn't have different lineups for different formats.

Mominul Haque is a great cricketer for Bangladesh and he made a great name for himself when he started his career in test cricket but then the over-eager selectors selected him for the one-day and T-20 matches and he did not do very well in those. So his form in test cricket also dropped.

The domestic setup is well in very few countries. The domestic setup in Bangladesh is not good at all and a lot of match-fixing by the umpires and some shady business going on in the domestic cricket of Bangladesh, you know. I think no one remembers the bowler in Bangladesh domestic cricket who gave 92 runs in 4 balls. Yeah, that also happened. Now that bowler can be found selling burgers in the streets of the City, kidding, Cheesy

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Quote from: galambo on February 25, 2022, 12:54:25 PM

Afghanistan is not a full fledged test playing team while Bangladesh is a regular test playing country. So performing good against an associate team does not prove the fact that Bangladesh is very good at home conditions. Bangladesh were recently whitewashed by Pak in Test and T20Is at there home grounds. Afghanistan is an underdog in this series.

With the popularity of short formats now it's very hard for few countries to have better result in this test format because it needs some good patience and better technique which are time-consuming things and new breed of cricketers love to enjoy ODI and t20, so test failure is increasing for new countries very strongly.

Bangladesh is not giving time in domestic set up which is also very important for this and Afghanistan is not able to play this at home, so they are just enjoying short format but still have some good players for giving good response in test format, but I am feeling they will be not good enough in near future until they also have some strong domestic set up which help their players for having some good experience in this format for better success ratio. Right now, we have strong domestic set up in very few countries, so they are enjoying good in all formats.

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Quote from: jostorres on February 26, 2022, 12:09:12 AM

Even Bangladesh were whitewashed at home against Pakistan, but their reply were also very strong, and they beat World Test Champions at their home and draw a series it is one of the best by them and now in last two ODI's they are doing very good job even Afghanistan is also new and have no enough experience, but they are very good team with some good all-rounder and bowlers.

But, sadly they have some batting issues and second thing is they are still under making process, so It's going to be taken some time as they have some good experience surely they are going to be best team around globe even I can say they will be much better than Bangladesh because they many natural talented players those are performing in many franchisees and taking good lessons for their national team and better future.

Afghanistan need time to settle since they are very much new to international cricket but how much more time Bangladesh need to become a stable team. They are only capable of making one or two upsets like wining a single test against NZ and then sitting comfortably. If same time and funds will be given to Afghanistan they will surely reach the level of Pakistan or India.

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Quote from: galambo on February 25, 2022, 12:54:25 PM

Afghanistan is not a full fledged test playing team while Bangladesh is a regular test playing country. So performing good against an associate team does not prove the fact that Bangladesh is very good at home conditions. Bangladesh were recently whitewashed by Pak in Test and T20Is at there home grounds. Afghanistan is an underdog in this series.

Even Bangladesh were whitewashed at home against Pakistan, but their reply were also very strong, and they beat World Test Champions at their home and draw a series it is one of the best by them and now in last two ODI's they are doing very good job even Afghanistan is also new and have no enough experience, but they are very good team with some good all-rounder and bowlers.

But, sadly they have some batting issues and second thing is they are still under making process, so It's going to be taken some time as they have some good experience surely they are going to be best team around globe even I can say they will be much better than Bangladesh because they many natural talented players those are performing in many franchisees and taking good lessons for their national team and better future.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 25, 2022, 09:52:35 PM

At least in name, Afghanistan is a test playing nation and can't be compared with the smaller associate nations. They receive around $5 million every year from the ICC, which is tens of times higher when compared to what the associate nations such as Nepal receive. But that amount is only one-third of what Bangladesh receive every year from the ICC (~$15 million per year). Anyway, when it comes to test cricket both these nations have performed poorly. And Bangladesh has remained in this position despite being a test nation for more than two decades.

Thank you for sharing these financial facts. Bangladesh are crazy for cricket they have a T20 league and a national holiday is announced whenever they win against big country like Pakistan and India but I go with your stance that 2 decade has passed since they got test status but there performance is still like an associate team. I think ICC has given then test status quite early.

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Quote from: galambo on February 25, 2022, 12:54:25 PM

Afghanistan is not a full fledged test playing team while Bangladesh is a regular test playing country. So performing good against an associate team does not prove the fact that Bangladesh is very good at home conditions. Bangladesh were recently whitewashed by Pak in Test and T20Is at there home grounds. Afghanistan is an underdog in this series.

At least in name, Afghanistan is a test playing nation and can't be compared with the smaller associate nations. They receive around $5 million every year from the ICC, which is tens of times higher when compared to what the associate nations such as Nepal receive. But that amount is only one-third of what Bangladesh receive every year from the ICC (~$15 million per year). Anyway, when it comes to test cricket both these nations have performed poorly. And Bangladesh has remained in this position despite being a test nation for more than two decades.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on February 25, 2022, 12:03:24 PM

Bangladesh is always good in their home condition. Although Bangladeshi players had struggled a lot to win the first match, but they got an easy victory in the second match. Probably they will win the third ODI and Afghanistan will be whitewashed by them. Anyway, Bangladesh will visit South Africa to play the ODI series. So, the chance is quite low to see similar performance from Bangladeshi players in the next series.

Afghanistan is not a full fledged test playing team while Bangladesh is a regular test playing country. So performing good against an associate team does not prove the fact that Bangladesh is very good at home conditions. Bangladesh were recently whitewashed by Pak in Test and T20Is at there home grounds. Afghanistan is an underdog in this series.

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Quote from: Mr.Scott on February 25, 2022, 09:02:51 AM

As a result of Bangladesh's 88-run win over Afghanistan, they now lead the three-match ODI series 2-0! Players from Bangladesh, in particular Litton Kumer Das and Mushfiqur Rahim, performed brilliantly. They bowled in good lengths and picked up wickets regularly. The senior-junior combination is excellent. The momentum needs to continue in the upcoming series against South Africa.

Bangladesh is always good in their home condition. Although Bangladeshi players had struggled a lot to win the first match, but they got an easy victory in the second match. Probably they will win the third ODI and Afghanistan will be whitewashed by them. Anyway, Bangladesh will visit South Africa to play the ODI series. So, the chance is quite low to see similar performance from Bangladeshi players in the next series.

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Quote from: Mr.Scott on February 25, 2022, 09:02:51 AM

As a result of Bangladesh's 88-run win over Afghanistan, they now lead the three-match ODI series 2-0! Players from Bangladesh, in particular Litton Kumer Das and Mushfiqur Rahim, performed brilliantly. They bowled in good lengths and picked up wickets regularly. The senior-junior combination is excellent. The momentum needs to continue in the upcoming series against South Africa.

An easy win for Bangladesh today. Today they did'nt repeated mistakes of first ODI which is a good sign that they are learning from there mistakes. Much needed runs for Litlon Das as his last ten ODI innings are not very impressive. 300+ is not an easy target to chase specially for team like Afghanistan. Rehmat and Zadran did some resistance other then that no one took the responsibility.

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As a result of Bangladesh's 88-run win over Afghanistan, they now lead the three-match ODI series 2-0! Players from Bangladesh, in particular Litton Kumer Das and Mushfiqur Rahim, performed brilliantly. They bowled in good lengths and picked up wickets regularly. The senior-junior combination is excellent. The momentum needs to continue in the upcoming series against South Africa.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on February 24, 2022, 01:31:47 PM

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I think Afghanistan could do something that Bangladesh didn't even realize. That is about the pitch, the pitch really seems to favor the new ball bowlers, because at the start of each innings we saw noticeable movement from the new fast bowlers, but as the match went on the pitch kind of died and the track was most suitable for batting by then.

Afghanistan hadn't started their innings pathetically like Bangladesh. Afghanistan lost their wickets frequently during the death overs of their innings. Where Bangladesh has lost their first 6 wickets at the starting moment of the match. Afghanistan started slowly, but they hadn't lost wickets like Bangladesh at the start of their batting.

What I meant was that I didn't think Bangladesh even thought that Afghanistan could get 6 wickets only for 45 runs and that also in only in almost about 11 overs. And I really think that no one expected Bangladesh to start the innings that badly, the top order absolutely collapsed. But the youngsters took the matters into their own hands and took Bangladesh out of the hole that they dug themselves into.

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Even captain Tamim Iqbal said the same thing in the post-match presentation. But the youngsters proved us wrong and showed their extraordinary talent.

The whole thing has happened unexpectedly. No one expected such comeback from Bangladeshi youngsters, where the experienced players failed to score much.

And yes the whole match was unexpected and that's what I meant when I was talking about the post-match interview of Tamim Iqbal, and that's why the match was really great.

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Quote from: Maidak on February 25, 2022, 04:19:18 AM

Bangladesh's innings has ended and they have scored 306 runs at the loss of 4 wickets in their 50 overs. I think they should have scored more than that because the last 5 overs were really set up for the Bangladesh batsman to hit the ball out of the park. but they could not take the advantage of a huge score already being posted by previous batsmen.

Litton Das scored his 5th hundred and Mushfiqur Rahim scored 86 runs and with that, he also surpassed the 13000 runs mark in all formats of cricket for Bangladesh. I think Bangladesh should be the winners of this match because they have a really good total to defend.

Batting for 307 runs, Afghanistan lost the wicket of their important batsman Riaz Hassan by just 9 runs. He has been run-out. It was not desirable. Since the target is much higher, the openers must have performed well to win the match. However, it seems that Afghanistan can win by batting for such a huge run. If the target was between 250-260, then maybe Afghanistan could have fought better. The match would have been competitive. Now we will watch a one-sided match. Maybe Bangladesh will dominate today.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on February 25, 2022, 01:25:19 AM

Bangladesh scored 81 runs in 15 overs. They are playing very well. They lost only one wicket. But I want to say about the bowlers of Afghanistan. They bowled 15 overs and gave 25 runs extra. This is too much. Maybe they want to confuse the batsmen of Bangladesh and cause the fall of wickets. But it is very dangerous. As a result, Bangladesh can easily collect some runs. Moreover, now the two batsmen of the crease Shakib and Liton are both very experienced.

Bangladesh's innings has ended and they have scored 306 runs at the loss of 4 wickets in their 50 overs. I think they should have scored more than that because the last 5 overs were really set up for the Bangladesh batsman to hit the ball out of the park. but they could not take the advantage of a huge score already being posted by previous batsmen.

Litton Das scored his 5th hundred and Mushfiqur Rahim scored 86 runs and with that, he also surpassed the 13000 runs mark in all formats of cricket for Bangladesh. I think Bangladesh should be the winners of this match because they have a really good total to defend.

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2nd ODI b/w Bangladesh and Afghanistan is underway at Chattogram and this time Bangladesh is batting first after they won the toss. There is 12 extra runs given by Afghanistan in 3 overs including 6 wides, not a good thing from bowling perspective. Bangladesh got 6 early wickets in first ODI but losing the game afterwards, Bangladesh must have this thing in there mind.

After the incredible victory of the first ODI, the players of Bangladesh are confident today. Afghanistan is a very tough opponent for Bangladesh. So winning the match against them will not be easy. Today, the beginning of Bangladesh has been quite good. Collecting 36 runs in 6 overs, they did not lose any wicket. However, when the opening pair broke, Bangladesh quickly lost a few more wickets. As a result, middle order batsmen have to play responsibly.

Power play's 10 overs in Bangladesh's collection 54/1. They lost the first wicket by 38 runs. Tamim Iqbal returned to the dressing room with 12 runs off 24 balls. BPL He performed well enough but his performance in both the matches of this series was poor. I think 270 runs is enough to win today's match. If Bangladesh can collect more than 270, they are more likely to win. But the bowlers of Afghanistan are talented enough. They are able to bring down the batting lineup of Bangladesh at any time.

Bangladesh scored 81 runs in 15 overs. They are playing very well. They lost only one wicket. But I want to say about the bowlers of Afghanistan. They bowled 15 overs and gave 25 runs extra. This is too much. Maybe they want to confuse the batsmen of Bangladesh and cause the fall of wickets. But it is very dangerous. As a result, Bangladesh can easily collect some runs. Moreover, now the two batsmen of the crease Shakib and Liton are both very experienced.

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Quote from: vvikkass on February 25, 2022, 12:23:33 AM

2nd ODI b/w Bangladesh and Afghanistan is underway at Chattogram and this time Bangladesh is batting first after they won the toss. There is 12 extra runs given by Afghanistan in 3 overs including 6 wides, not a good thing from bowling perspective. Bangladesh got 6 early wickets in first ODI but losing the game afterwards, Bangladesh must have this thing in there mind.

After the incredible victory of the first ODI, the players of Bangladesh are confident today. Afghanistan is a very tough opponent for Bangladesh. So winning the match against them will not be easy. Today, the beginning of Bangladesh has been quite good. Collecting 36 runs in 6 overs, they did not lose any wicket. However, when the opening pair broke, Bangladesh quickly lost a few more wickets. As a result, middle order batsmen have to play responsibly.

Power play's 10 overs in Bangladesh's collection 54/1. They lost the first wicket by 38 runs. Tamim Iqbal returned to the dressing room with 12 runs off 24 balls. BPL He performed well enough but his performance in both the matches of this series was poor. I think 270 runs is enough to win today's match. If Bangladesh can collect more than 270, they are more likely to win. But the bowlers of Afghanistan are talented enough. They are able to bring down the batting lineup of Bangladesh at any time.

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Tamim Iqbal, the Bangladesh captain, won the toss and elected to bat first. BAN have unchanged while, Afghanistan makes three changes to its XI from the first ODI. Riaz Hassan, pacer Fareed Ahmad, and all-rounder Azmatullah Omarzai have joined the team. Among those omitted from the list are Ibrahim Zadran, Yamin Ahmadzai, and Gulbadin Naib. A bowling first strategy would be a good choice, although dew factor may cause difficulties with the bowl in the 2nd innings. Hopefully, Bangladesh confirms the series.

Quote from: vvikkass on February 25, 2022, 12:23:33 AM

Bangladesh got 6 early wickets in first ODI but losing the game afterwards, Bangladesh must have this thing in there mind.

The team lost 6 early wickets in the first ODI, but managed to score 219/6 at the end. It was a historic win for Bangladesh Cricket.

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