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Quote from: romero121 on March 02, 2022, 06:59:30 PM

This is really good with ICC increasing the Women's World Cup prize money. Slowly more importance is being given to the women's cricket. At times the women's cricket seems to be underrated. Proper funding is the only way through which it is possible to make good teams and players. Women's World Cup is scheduled for tomorrow and runs for a month. Any prediction on the winner, and I believe it is Australia to grab.

Increasing the prize money is a welcome step, but the ICC need to do more. They need to include more teams in the world cup. A competition with 8 teams (where all of them qualified as a result of their ranking and test status) can't be termed as a world cup. They need to expand the tournament to at least 12-14 teams. And another thing is that the qualification criteria is ridiculous. Thailand was on the top of the qualifier tournament points table, but the ICC denied them entry to the world cup saying that their ranking is too low.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on March 02, 2022, 03:10:59 AM

Meanwhile Women World Cup is in progress at New Zealand, total 8 team are participating New Zealand, Australia, England, South Africa, Pakistan, Bangladesh, India and West Indies . Here are some interesting facts regarding prize money.

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Winner will get $1.32 million, double of what England got after winning the 2017 edition. The overall prize money has also been increased by 75%.
$600,000 for Runner up team
Two semifinalist will get $300,000.
The four teams that don't make it out of the league stage will be awarded a total of $70,000.
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ICC has allocated quite good money for this women's WC.

This is really good with ICC increasing the Women's World Cup prize money. Slowly more importance is being given to the women's cricket. At times the women's cricket seems to be underrated. Proper funding is the only way through which it is possible to make good teams and players. Women's World Cup is scheduled for tomorrow and runs for a month. Any prediction on the winner, and I believe it is Australia to grab.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on March 02, 2022, 03:01:27 AM

^^ It's basically 10 points for each win and five points for each no contest. For each penalty, over years one point is taken away.

As Bangladesh has played 15 matches and won 10 of them, they have 100 points and a lot of the big teams have not played 15 matches so obviously, the win count is also low for them.
So they are below in the points table.

Meanwhile, Ireland has played 18 matches and earned 68 points only so it's very much possible that they will go further down the points table.

If I am not wrong, around 80 points will be enough to secure a spot in the top-8. Ireland is having 68 points right now, and they have 6 matches remaining. If they win two of their remaining matches, then they can ensure direct qualification to the world cup. They have 3 matches remaining against Bangladesh, and another three against New Zealand. It is quite possible to win two matches. On the other hand, the prospect of teams like South Africa and Sri Lanka looks more perilous when compared with Ireland.

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Quote from: ibuddy122505 on February 28, 2022, 07:31:51 AM

Afghanistan register their first success over Bangladesh following the 3 ODI series, however Bangladesh already secure the series by 2-1. Afghanistan chase down the Bangladesh low total without much trouble with 59 balls remaining. The batters of Afghanistan executed by excellent way, especially Rahmanullah Gurbaz who made a brilliant century.

I was not expecting Afghanistan to win a single match but good to hear that they won at last. I think the Bangladesh side got overconfident with the last match otherwise they wouldn't have scored such a low score. Winning by 7 wickets is a big win and Bangladesh may now face some tough competition in the upcoming T20 series from Afghanistan.

I agree with you here as I was also not expecting this from Bangladesh after winning first two ODI's without any serious trouble suddenly they have done few mistakes and lost their last match just Luton and Shakib done some good batting all others gone very cheaply with just 192 runs on board not good target to defend against any team here Afghanistan also done good batting specially by young Rahmanullah Gurbaz 106 runs on 110 balls.

With this lost Bangladesh is still at top, and now their next challenge is against South Africa which is going to be very tough for these both teams even currently South Africa is at 10th spot with just 3 wins and 39 points now this coming series is very important for them if Bangladesh won then surely It's going to be very good for them now after few days we are going to have some good number of matches for this ICC Men's Cricket World Cup Super League 2020.

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Meanwhile Women World Cup is in progress at New Zealand, total 8 team are participating New Zealand, Australia, England, South Africa, Pakistan, Bangladesh, India and West Indies . Here are some interesting facts regarding prize money.

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Winner will get $1.32 million, double of what England got after winning the 2017 edition. The overall prize money has also been increased by 75%.
$600,000 for Runner up team
Two semifinalist will get $300,000.
The four teams that don't make it out of the league stage will be awarded a total of $70,000.
Source

ICC has allocated quite good money for this women's WC.

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^^ It's basically 10 points for each win and five points for each no contest. For each penalty, over years one point is taken away.

As Bangladesh has played 15 matches and won 10 of them, they have 100 points and a lot of the big teams have not played 15 matches so obviously, the win count is also low for them.
So they are below in the points table.

Meanwhile, Ireland has played 18 matches and earned 68 points only so it's very much possible that they will go further down the points table.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 28, 2022, 10:15:36 PM

All that matters is the points table for ICC Men's Cricket World Cup Super League. Right now Bangladesh is on top with 100 points from 15 matches, while Afghanistan is at 4th position with 70 points from 9 matches. A lot of matches are remaining and this is causing some difficulty in getting an accurate picture. Only Ireland and Sri Lanka have completed at least 75% of their scheduled matches. On the other hand, New Zealand has played just 3 matches out of the total 24, and the Netherlands have played just 7.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/cricket-world-cup-super-league/standings

I have no idea how this works as teams like Australia, Pakistan, SA and NZ are at very bottom of this league table. While teams like Bangladesh, Ireland and Afghanistan are occupying top 5 positions. Only die hard cricket fans like you can elaborate that for us.
The result of Afghanistan Bangladesh test series was very much predictable, as both teams are of very same level. Bangladesh are lucky enough to win this at there home.

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Quote from: galambo on February 27, 2022, 05:11:36 AM

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Case of Sujon Mahmud is different as it was not about match fixing rather losing his cool on umpire decision. "Bowler Sujon Mahmud has been banned for 10 years after deliberately bowling a series of wides and no-balls in protest at umpiring decisions."
Bangladesh need to revisit there domestic setup and must strengthen it if they really wanna survive in cricket world else they will be history like Zim and kenya.

We can also see that recently Shakib Al Hasan also protected against the umpire decisions on the field. I think even BCB knows that a lot of match-fixing happens in the domestic cricket of Bangladesh but they just simply choose to probably overlook that. I heard a talk that the pipeline of Bangladesh cricket is not so strong and these are the reasons behind it in my opinion. Unless people can stop their greed for money it's not going to improve.

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Quote from: galambo on February 28, 2022, 08:06:45 AM

Bangladesh concluded ODI series by winning the very last game. Bangladesh gave a modest target of 193 as there batting collapsed, only Litton Das 86 of 113 balls made it possible to reach 193. Good bowling by Nabi and Rashid together they both took 5 wickets. In reply Afghanistan were steady, Rahmanullah Gurbaz was top scorer with 106 runs.

All that matters is the points table for ICC Men's Cricket World Cup Super League. Right now Bangladesh is on top with 100 points from 15 matches, while Afghanistan is at 4th position with 70 points from 9 matches. A lot of matches are remaining and this is causing some difficulty in getting an accurate picture. Only Ireland and Sri Lanka have completed at least 75% of their scheduled matches. On the other hand, New Zealand has played just 3 matches out of the total 24, and the Netherlands have played just 7.

@galambo, Bangladesh own the last game??
Actually, Bangladesh have lost the last ODI match against Afghanistan. Even though Bangladesh had a good start, at the later part of the innings the batting of Bangladesh just collapsed. The Afghanistan spin bowlers were bowled really well to restrict Bangladesh just within 192 runs.

@Sithara007, Indeed Bangladesh is at the top of the points table but New Zealand and a lot of other teams have lots of matches left so it's really hard to predict anything at the moment in my opinion too.

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Quote from: ibuddy122505 on February 28, 2022, 07:31:51 AM

Afghanistan register their first success over Bangladesh following the 3 ODI series, however Bangladesh already secure the series by 2-1. Afghanistan chase down the Bangladesh low total without much trouble with 59 balls remaining. The batters of Afghanistan executed by excellent way, especially Rahmanullah Gurbaz who made a brilliant century.

I was not expecting Afghanistan to win a single match but good to hear that they won at last. I think the Bangladesh side got overconfident with the last match otherwise they wouldn't have scored such a low score. Winning by 7 wickets is a big win and Bangladesh may now face some tough competition in the upcoming T20 series from Afghanistan.

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Quote from: galambo on February 28, 2022, 08:06:45 AM

Bangladesh concluded ODI series by winning the very last game. Bangladesh gave a modest target of 193 as there batting collapsed, only Litton Das 86 of 113 balls made it possible to reach 193. Good bowling by Nabi and Rashid together they both took 5 wickets. In reply Afghanistan were steady, Rahmanullah Gurbaz was top scorer with 106 runs.

All that matters is the points table for ICC Men's Cricket World Cup Super League. Right now Bangladesh is on top with 100 points from 15 matches, while Afghanistan is at 4th position with 70 points from 9 matches. A lot of matches are remaining and this is causing some difficulty in getting an accurate picture. Only Ireland and Sri Lanka have completed at least 75% of their scheduled matches. On the other hand, New Zealand has played just 3 matches out of the total 24, and the Netherlands have played just 7.

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Bangladesh concluded ODI series by winning the very last game. Bangladesh gave a modest target of 193 as there batting collapsed, only Litton Das 86 of 113 balls made it possible to reach 193. Good bowling by Nabi and Rashid together they both took 5 wickets. In reply Afghanistan were steady, Rahmanullah Gurbaz was top scorer with 106 runs.

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Afghanistan register their first success over Bangladesh following the 3 ODI series, however Bangladesh already secure the series by 2-1. Afghanistan chase down the Bangladesh low total without much trouble with 59 balls remaining. The batters of Afghanistan executed by excellent way, especially Rahmanullah Gurbaz who made a brilliant century.

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Quote from: galambo on February 27, 2022, 05:11:36 AM

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Bangladesh need to revisit there domestic setup and must strengthen it if they really wanna survive in cricket world else they will be history like Zim and kenya.

The problems faced by Bangladesh are similar to those in Sri Lanka. In both cases, the cricket infrastructure and domestic teams are concentrated in the capital city (Dhaka and Colombo respectively). This means that those who are living outside these cities need to migrate in order to prove their mettle. Sri Lanka is now trying to form domestic teams in distant cities such as Kandy and Jaffna, but if you check the composition of these teams, you will find that almost all the players are from Colombo and it's satellite cities.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on February 27, 2022, 04:37:59 AM

The problem in the Bangladesh cricket board seems to be it's not the Bangladesh cricket board anymore. It has become the Bangladesh national team board right now.

Because the board only seems to be making the main 11 squads happy and only think about that team. At the moment I don't even think that they even care about their domestic cricket at all. And the amount of match-fixing and negligence that goes on in the domestic cricket of Bangladesh I can say this confidently.

Case of Sujon Mahmud is different as it was not about match fixing rather losing his cool on umpire decision. "Bowler Sujon Mahmud has been banned for 10 years after deliberately bowling a series of wides and no-balls in protest at umpiring decisions."

Bangladesh need to revisit there domestic setup and must strengthen it if they really wanna survive in cricket world else they will be history like Zim and kenya.

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Quote from: mm2543363580 on February 26, 2022, 01:04:22 PM

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Yes, Mominul Haq for Test cricket and Tamim Iqbal for ODI both are trying hard to come up to expectation of the people. The team Bangladesh came to cricket field very late compared to the other international teams. All they need is a good practice and some great resources to come up to the other teams level. But I have not liked the last you have stated for the bowlers of the Bangladesh team they have legendary bowlers like Shakib.

Bangladesh obviously has some legendary bowlers like Shakib Al Hasan and Mashrafe bin Mortaza. But that's just the tip of the iceberg.
We can obviously just look at the national team and say that this team is great and everything is great in Bangladesh cricket. honestly, the domestic cricket of Bangladesh is not really up to the mark and has also been neglected lots of times. And the bowler that I was talking about is Sujon Mahmud. You can Google if you want.

Quote from: barbara44 on February 26, 2022, 03:43:05 PM

It is very good few players like Mominul Haq and Tamim Iqbal doing their best for Bangladesh, but it's not easy to do this all without team work and having very strong management which is currently not available for them few years back there were few hopes but suddenly all in vain as now we have not good enough players in their set-up and their management is also not doing solid efforts for bringing good changes in domestic set up recently with the success of BPL is having good impact on their finances things but still long way to go for them.

I am not agreed here that Bangladesh entry in cricket is late they already have more than two decades and have very good experience but fail like we have Zimbabwe and now West Indies is also on verge of down-and-out due to their geopolitical reasons.

If they want to become good then surely works on few academies and better local set up which is indeed for good future and success.

The problem in the Bangladesh cricket board seems to be it's not the Bangladesh cricket board anymore. It has become the Bangladesh national team board right now.

Because the board only seems to be making the main 11 squads happy and only think about that team. At the moment I don't even think that they even care about their domestic cricket at all. And the amount of match-fixing and negligence that goes on in the domestic cricket of Bangladesh I can say this confidently.

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Warm up matches prior to women world cup are under way and there was an upset by Pakistani team as they beat New zealand by 4 wickets. NZ team were bowled out in 45 overs for 229, Nashra Sandhu is star performer in today's game as she took 4 wickets in her 10 overs by giving only 32 runs. In reply it was Nida and Aliya who help Pakistan in winning the game as wickets keep falling at regular intervals.

There is zero interet in Women cricket WC even on bitcointalk.org where we keep discussing that women cricket is ignored by boards.

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Quote from: KennyR on February 26, 2022, 12:29:14 PM

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And another thing is Bangladesh has much more global exposure than Afghanistan. Shakib Al Hasan, Mustafizur Rahman has played League cricket all around the world. From there they have achieved so much experience. And also the facility of Bangladesh cricket is far better than Afghanistan in my opinion.

Bangladesh is much experienced compared to Afghanistan. In specific it has got experience playing against top teams, which have given the players more tricks and techniques to handle situations. Afghanistan cricket needs more support, and Bangladesh team is in a better position as mentioned.

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In Afghanistan, there are a lot of problems. The country itself is in a rebuilding state at the moment. This team is still quite good and just needs a few Good batsmen to play for the team. After that, if the dream is properly nurtured I think the team is going to be one of the best in the world.

Even with lots of internal problems within the country Afghanistan is trying to do the best. In the ODI series they've done better than before, and possibly Afghanistan will mark its win on the T20 cricket.

I have huge respect for Afghanistan to be honest because they are doing quite well in spite of being a war-torn country. I really don't think that if Bangladesh was in the same situation they could have done anything like that in cricket. And still, they showed a great performance in the first ODI match against Bangladesh. I think if they get the proper patronage that they deserve they will be a far better cricketing nation in the future.

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Quote from: barbara44 on February 26, 2022, 03:43:05 PM

It is very good few players like Mominul Haq and Tamim Iqbal doing their best for Bangladesh, but it's not easy to do this all without team work and having very strong management which is currently not available for them few years back there were few hopes but suddenly all in vain as now we have not good enough players in their set-up and their management is also not doing solid efforts for bringing good changes in domestic set up recently with the success of BPL is having good impact on their finances things but still long way to go for them.

I am not agreed here that Bangladesh entry in cricket is late they already have more than two decades and have very good experience but fail like we have Zimbabwe and now West Indies is also on verge of down-and-out due to their geopolitical reasons.

If they want to become good then surely works on few academies and better local set up which is indeed for good future and success.

BPL is a good success for Bangladesh cricket no doubt but if they want long term success in cricket then they need to focus on building domestic setup that produces quality players that can perform good in all formats not just in T20I or BPL.
Along with Tamim and Mominul haq I would say another good asset in Bangladesh cricket is Mushfiqur Rahim. I like his stats a wicket keeper though he is also like other Bangladesh cricketers not consistent with his performance.

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Quote from: mm2543363580 on February 26, 2022, 01:04:22 PM

Mominul Haq for Test cricket and Tamim Iqbal for ODI both are trying hard to come up to expectation of the people. The team Bangladesh came to cricket field very late compared to the other international teams. All they need is a good practice and some great resources to come up to the other teams level. But I have not liked the last you have stated for the bowlers of the Bangladesh team they have legendary bowlers like Shakib.

It is very good few players like Mominul Haq and Tamim Iqbal doing their best for Bangladesh, but it's not easy to do this all without team work and having very strong management which is currently not available for them few years back there were few hopes but suddenly all in vain as now we have not good enough players in their set-up and their management is also not doing solid efforts for bringing good changes in domestic set up recently with the success of BPL is having good impact on their finances things but still long way to go for them.

I am not agreed here that Bangladesh entry in cricket is late they already have more than two decades and have very good experience but fail like we have Zimbabwe and now West Indies is also on verge of down-and-out due to their geopolitical reasons.

If they want to become good then surely works on few academies and better local set up which is indeed for good future and success.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on February 26, 2022, 02:26:06 AM

Bangladesh has always had problems in test cricket. The best form of cricket in which Bangladesh plays really well in the one-day international.

In T20 Bangladesh is below average in my opinion, in test cricket to be honest Bangladesh absolutely sucks. one of the big reasons for this is because Bangladesh doesn't have different lineups for different formats.

Mominul Haque is a great cricketer for Bangladesh and he made a great name for himself when he started his career in test cricket but then the over-eager selectors selected him for the one-day and T-20 matches and he did not do very well in those. So his form in test cricket also dropped.

The domestic setup is well in very few countries. The domestic setup in Bangladesh is not good at all and a lot of match-fixing by the umpires and some shady business going on in the domestic cricket of Bangladesh, you know. I think no one remembers the bowler in Bangladesh domestic cricket who gave 92 runs in 4 balls. Yeah, that also happened. Now that bowler can be found selling burgers in the streets of the City, kidding, Cheesy

Yes, Mominul Haq for Test cricket and Tamim Iqbal for ODI both are trying hard to come up to expectation of the people. The team Bangladesh came to cricket field very late compared to the other international teams. All they need is a good practice and some great resources to come up to the other teams level. But I have not liked the last you have stated for the bowlers of the Bangladesh team they have legendary bowlers like Shakib.

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