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Quote from: Theones on March 09, 2022, 03:23:10 PM

For the match I get an idea that Pakistani culture is a bit conservative when it comes to woman sports. I believe Pakistan is not paying much attention to sports when it comes to woman and that it's neglected to an extreme. Even I watched on TV in winter olympics there was one athlete along with three supporting personals. Pakistan needs to really work on the uplift of sports in general and woman sports in particular.

In last two decades Pakistan is completely demolish by terrorism, and they lost some good things like they were very good in Hockey and Squash, and now they have nothing to cheer recently some good happened in shape of PSL otherwise mostly we have negative news from this region no sports are in good shape for men, so women is never been priority in this culture which is facing serious threats from fundamentalists and extreme groups which are sponsored by other countries for unrest in this region.

But, good things start to happening as now new persons are involved in sports those have some good experience and base for bringing this sports culture back in this country but still it is very long way to go for achieving good results because this all generation is already in big dilemma which is unstoppable but controlled by very small ethics and religious groups.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on March 07, 2022, 08:53:37 AM

I wasn't actually that surprised by the result but I was surprised to see the skill difference between both the teams because obviously you can have a bad day and lose a match but the skill difference between both teams is really visible. I know that when I think about the facilities and every other aspect it makes sense but still it was not acceptable, to be honest. I think they could have done better.

PCB has not that much money to spend on women cricket, women cricketers from Pakistan are lucky enough to participate in World Cup. India Women team is not different then Pakistan, they lost miserably to new zealand just before this world cup. Though India won to Pakistan there is rear chance that they can beat teams like Aus, England and New Zealand.

That is true that we (Pakistan) do not have any infrastructure for the women's cricket team. They lost to India on that day and today they will again lose to Australians as this match is being played now at Mount Maunganui. Australian team needs only 25 more runs to win and they have 18 overs to complete this run chase. Though one can argue that Pakistan women's team exposure is increased by playing in world cup matches but unless we do not have a proper domestic infrastructure, it's of no use.

For the match I get an idea that Pakistani culture is a bit conservative when it comes to woman sports. I believe Pakistan is not paying much attention to sports when it comes to woman and that it's neglected to an extreme. Even I watched on TV in winter olympics there was one athlete along with three supporting personals. Pakistan needs to really work on the uplift of sports in general and woman sports in particular.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on March 09, 2022, 07:42:26 AM

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Quote from: blatchcorn on March 08, 2022, 01:49:54 AM

Pak-W team performance today is better then how they performed in last match against Ind-W. Pressure may be one reason why Pak-W failed to play quality cricket on that day. Pakistan team is new in women cricket and they should try to get experience by playing there full 50 overs quota. Women cricket is dominated by England, Aus and New Zealand and its because these boards are behind there teams.
Pak-W just lost the match to Aus-W by 7 wickets. Alyssa Healy was the top scorer from Aus side who scored 74 runs.

The result is what matters in the end and Pakistan have lost both matches and are at the bottom of the points table.
Today we had an upset where the West Indies women's team defeated the England team. This means that both WI and Aus have won both their matches while Pakistan and England have lost both their matches. I must say the tournament is getting interesting.

I don’t feel that Pakistan women performed extremely bad in the second match, and this performance is something they can take inspiration from and try and win their remaining games. Lastly no one expected West Indies team to beat England so this is definitely a shocker, and yes this unexpected turn of events has made this tournament even more exciting to watch.

Pakistan women needed to form better partnerships, But they could not do so. After the openers failed Bismah Maroof basically tried to hold the innings together.
She is called 78 runs. Aliya Riaz also played well for her 50. but other than that no one really scored anything worth mentioning.
In the end, they could not accelerate their innings at all. and for Australia, it was a really easy chase.

England versus West Indies match really had a shocking result and don't think anyone expected that. It really looked like England is going to win the match but the last two quick wickets certainly changed the outcome of the match.

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Quote from: jostorres on March 07, 2022, 03:39:12 PM

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I agree with you here that after Australia, England, India is very strong team even they lost few matches against host New Zealand before this Mega Event but still they are capable of beating them in this competition and having spot in semi-final because they have few very good players with very good experience and quality.
Pakistan is relatively new team with many girls are having not good enough experience for big games but still they have done very good in first session of this game before start of this game I was feeling India can tough 300+ but Pakistan bowlers done good job and restrict them for very good total, but sadly they lost this match very badly.
Now, with first upset of this event as West Indies beat New Zealand we have some good competition between three teams for remaining two spots of semi-final as first two are already Australia and England.

First a win against the New Zealand women's team by 3 runs and now a win against England women by seven runs. The West Indies women's team seems to be making the viewers' money worth it. They are taking the matches deep and hanging in there till the end and that's what everyone likes to see, a good game.

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Before this WC, India Women lost ODI series 4-1 and T20 series 1-0 and you saying they lost few matches to new zealand? Rating India ahead of new zealand is not justified seeing there recent performance just before the WC.
Meanwhile Australia W are in good control of there match against Pakistan W. Pakistan has given target of 190 runs. Bismah Maroof and Aliya are top scorer with 78 and 53 runs. All Aussies bowlers are economical today.

Even India lost matches against host New Zealand but still they are very good team, and they are capable of beating few teams like New Zealand, West Indies and South Africa for reaching into semi-final with they can easily win against Pakistan and Bangladesh which are relatively new teams in this format. My Teams for last four spots are Australia, England, New Zealand and India but West Indies done big upset with this they are favourite for fourth spot but still it's not sure.
Pakistani Women today done some better batting even they still fail to reach some respectable total but good thing these women having good experience with playing against quality teams and players which help them in near future and with this hopefully we have some more bilateral matches between these teams.

I think the favorites for the last four spots being India, Australia, England, and New Zealand seem to be right. But after the close wins of West Indies women, I think they might show some surprise in the tournament. For the other teams, unless they are playing cricket regularly they are not going to improve.

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Quote from: barbara44 on March 09, 2022, 12:01:15 PM

What a day in Mega Event of Women Crickets World Cup as West Indies women team done second upset of this tournament when they beat England in very exciting match and now have confirmed their spot in semi-final of this WCW 2022.

Wicket Keeper Shemaine Campbelle done great job for West Indies as she score 66 and total of 225 which was never been good total for England but classic bowling from West Indies bowling attack done great damage and beat England with 7 runs Shamilia Connell and Anisa Mohammed were hero for West Indies with their amazing bowling Sophie Ecclestone and Kate Cross both were in good touch but fail to give first win to England now they have very tough job for reaching into last four after losing two out of two matches in this event.

Before this world cup nobody was talking about WIndies women team. They have performed exceptionally well so far beating top teams of tournament i.e. England and New Zealand so far. I would say they are now favorite for this world cup title. There win over England and New Zealand is close though just by 7 and 3 runs but still win is win.

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What a day in Mega Event of Women Crickets World Cup as West Indies women team done second upset of this tournament when they beat England in very exciting match and now have confirmed their spot in semi-final of this WCW 2022.

Wicket Keeper Shemaine Campbelle done great job for West Indies as she score 66 and total of 225 which was never been good total for England but classic bowling from West Indies bowling attack done great damage and beat England with 7 runs Shamilia Connell and Anisa Mohammed were hero for West Indies with their amazing bowling Sophie Ecclestone and Kate Cross both were in good touch but fail to give first win to England now they have very tough job for reaching into last four after losing two out of two matches in this event.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on March 09, 2022, 05:27:22 AM

Quote from: blatchcorn on March 08, 2022, 01:49:54 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on March 08, 2022, 01:39:24 AM

That is true that we (Pakistan) do not have any infrastructure for the women's cricket team. They lost to India on that day and today they will again lose to Australians as this match is being played now at Mount Maunganui. Australian team needs only 25 more runs to win and they have 18 overs to complete this run chase. Though one can argue that Pakistan women's team exposure is increased by playing in world cup matches but unless we do not have a proper domestic infrastructure, it's of no use.

Pak-W team performance today is better then how they performed in last match against Ind-W. Pressure may be one reason why Pak-W failed to play quality cricket on that day. Pakistan team is new in women cricket and they should try to get experience by playing there full 50 overs quota. Women cricket is dominated by England, Aus and New Zealand and its because these boards are behind there teams.
Pak-W just lost the match to Aus-W by 7 wickets. Alyssa Healy was the top scorer from Aus side who scored 74 runs.

The result is what matters in the end and Pakistan have lost both matches and are at the bottom of the points table.

Today we had an upset where the West Indies women's team defeated the England team. This means that both WI and Aus have won both their matches while Pakistan and England have lost both their matches. I must say the tournament is getting interesting.

I don’t feel that Pakistan women performed extremely bad in the second match, and this performance is something they can take inspiration from and try and win their remaining games. Lastly no one expected West Indies team to beat England so this is definitely a shocker, and yes this unexpected turn of events has made this tournament even more exciting to watch.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on March 08, 2022, 01:49:54 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on March 08, 2022, 01:39:24 AM

That is true that we (Pakistan) do not have any infrastructure for the women's cricket team. They lost to India on that day and today they will again lose to Australians as this match is being played now at Mount Maunganui. Australian team needs only 25 more runs to win and they have 18 overs to complete this run chase. Though one can argue that Pakistan women's team exposure is increased by playing in world cup matches but unless we do not have a proper domestic infrastructure, it's of no use.

Pak-W team performance today is better then how they performed in last match against Ind-W. Pressure may be one reason why Pak-W failed to play quality cricket on that day. Pakistan team is new in women cricket and they should try to get experience by playing there full 50 overs quota. Women cricket is dominated by England, Aus and New Zealand and its because these boards are behind there teams.
Pak-W just lost the match to Aus-W by 7 wickets. Alyssa Healy was the top scorer from Aus side who scored 74 runs.

The result is what matters in the end and Pakistan have lost both matches and are at the bottom of the points table.

Today we had an upset where the West Indies women's team defeated the England team. This means that both WI and Aus have won both their matches while Pakistan and England have lost both their matches. I must say the tournament is getting interesting.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on March 08, 2022, 01:39:24 AM

That is true that we (Pakistan) do not have any infrastructure for the women's cricket team. They lost to India on that day and today they will again lose to Australians as this match is being played now at Mount Maunganui. Australian team needs only 25 more runs to win and they have 18 overs to complete this run chase. Though one can argue that Pakistan women's team exposure is increased by playing in world cup matches but unless we do not have a proper domestic infrastructure, it's of no use.

Pak-W team performance today is better then how they performed in last match against Ind-W. Pressure may be one reason why Pak-W failed to play quality cricket on that day. Pakistan team is new in women cricket and they should try to get experience by playing there full 50 overs quota. Women cricket is dominated by England, Aus and New Zealand and its because these boards are behind there teams.
Pak-W just lost the match to Aus-W by 7 wickets. Alyssa Healy was the top scorer from Aus side who scored 74 runs.

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Quote from: galambo on March 07, 2022, 10:33:18 AM

Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on March 07, 2022, 08:53:37 AM

I wasn't actually that surprised by the result but I was surprised to see the skill difference between both the teams because obviously you can have a bad day and lose a match but the skill difference between both teams is really visible. I know that when I think about the facilities and every other aspect it makes sense but still it was not acceptable, to be honest. I think they could have done better.

PCB has not that much money to spend on women cricket, women cricketers from Pakistan are lucky enough to participate in World Cup. India Women team is not different then Pakistan, they lost miserably to new zealand just before this world cup. Though India won to Pakistan there is rear chance that they can beat teams like Aus, England and New Zealand.

That is true that we (Pakistan) do not have any infrastructure for the women's cricket team. They lost to India on that day and today they will again lose to Australians as this match is being played now at Mount Maunganui. Australian team needs only 25 more runs to win and they have 18 overs to complete this run chase. Though one can argue that Pakistan women's team exposure is increased by playing in world cup matches but unless we do not have a proper domestic infrastructure, it's of no use.

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Quote from: jostorres on March 07, 2022, 03:39:12 PM

I agree with you here that after Australia, England, India is very strong team even they lost few matches against host New Zealand before this Mega Event but still they are capable of beating them in this competition and having spot in semi-final because they have few very good players with very good experience and quality.

Before this WC, India Women lost ODI series 4-1 and T20 series 1-0 and you saying they lost few matches to new zealand? Rating India ahead of new zealand is not justified seeing there recent performance just before the WC.

Meanwhile Australia W are in good control of there match against Pakistan W. Pakistan has given target of 190 runs. Bismah Maroof and Aliya are top scorer with 78 and 53 runs. All Aussies bowlers are economical today.

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Quote from: Marvell1 on March 07, 2022, 01:30:22 PM

Actually, I think that the Indian women's team is really good and they have a really good potential of achieving great things.
But the BCCI seems not to care about the women's team of India and that is causing the team to fall behind The other big teams like England and Australia. And if I am not wrong I think both the teams have their own women's cricket league which India does not and that's a big problem.

I agree with you here that after Australia, England, India is very strong team even they lost few matches against host New Zealand before this Mega Event but still they are capable of beating them in this competition and having spot in semi-final because they have few very good players with very good experience and quality.

Pakistan is relatively new team with many girls are having not good enough experience for big games but still they have done very good in first session of this game before start of this game I was feeling India can tough 300+ but Pakistan bowlers done good job and restrict them for very good total, but sadly they lost this match very badly.

Now, with first upset of this event as West Indies beat New Zealand we have some good competition between three teams for remaining two spots of semi-final as first two are already Australia and England.

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Quote from: Marvell1 on March 07, 2022, 01:30:22 PM

Actually, I think that the Indian women's team is really good and they have a really good potential of achieving great things.
But the BCCI seems not to care about the women's team of India and that is causing the team to fall behind The other big teams like England and Australia. And if I am not wrong I think both the teams have their own women's cricket league which India does not and that's a big problem.

Quote from: JohnBitCo on March 06, 2022, 01:33:31 PM

I just checked the history of the women world cup and it is dominated by only two nations, England and Australia. Only these two nations have shared the trophy between them and only once NZ win the world cup. In this situation, both India and Pakistan stand no chance of winning the cup even though i guess that the indian team is better than the Pakistan women's team

BCCI who restricts his male players from participating in leagues is openly saying to its female cricketers to participate in WBBL and the hundred to gain necessary experience and earn money. You can see the level of interest BCCI is taking in women cricket from this.
Still Indian team is far ahead from countries like Pakistan, west indies , Bangladesh and South Africa.

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Actually, I think that the Indian women's team is really good and they have a really good potential of achieving great things.
But the BCCI seems not to care about the women's team of India and that is causing the team to fall behind The other big teams like England and Australia. And if I am not wrong I think both the teams have their own women's cricket league which India does not and that's a big problem.

Quote from: JohnBitCo on March 06, 2022, 01:33:31 PM

I just checked the history of the women world cup and it is dominated by only two nations, England and Australia. Only these two nations have shared the trophy between them and only once NZ win the world cup. In this situation, both India and Pakistan stand no chance of winning the cup even though i guess that the indian team is better than the Pakistan women's team

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Quote from: usekevin on March 07, 2022, 11:22:29 AM

Woman cricket was improved a lot now.Indian Woman team won the Pakistan Woman team by 107 runs, it was not a easy task.Indian Woman team won the West Indies team by 81 runs.Indian woman team had match against Newzealand team on 10 th of March.Both the team was strong on his order of batting. It will be the 8th ODI of this World cup.Seems Indian Woman team in a fire to chase the title, which was missed by mens cricket team.Good luck all the team playing in World Club.

I don't think women cricket in South Asia has improved nor there are any chances of improvement since the boards are only interested in men. Developed countries like England, Australia and New Zealand only pay attention to women cricket since for them women are equal to men. I am sure this time too title will be won by England, Australia or New Zealand.

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Quote from: galambo on March 07, 2022, 10:33:18 AM

Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on March 07, 2022, 08:53:37 AM

I wasn't actually that surprised by the result but I was surprised to see the skill difference between both the teams because obviously you can have a bad day and lose a match but the skill difference between both teams is really visible. I know that when I think about the facilities and every other aspect it makes sense but still it was not acceptable, to be honest. I think they could have done better.

PCB has not that much money to spend on women cricket, women cricketers from Pakistan are lucky enough to participate in World Cup. India Women team is not different then Pakistan, they lost miserably to new zealand just before this world cup. Though India won to Pakistan there is rear chance that they can beat teams like Aus, England and New Zealand.

Woman cricket was improved a lot now.Indian Woman team won the Pakistan Woman team by 107 runs, it was not a easy task.Indian Woman team won the West Indies team by 81 runs.Indian woman team had match against Newzealand team on 10 th of March.Both the team was strong on his order of batting. It will be the 8th ODI of this World cup.Seems Indian Woman team in a fire to chase the title, which was missed by mens cricket team.Good luck all the team playing in World Club.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on March 07, 2022, 08:53:37 AM

I wasn't actually that surprised by the result but I was surprised to see the skill difference between both the teams because obviously you can have a bad day and lose a match but the skill difference between both teams is really visible. I know that when I think about the facilities and every other aspect it makes sense but still it was not acceptable, to be honest. I think they could have done better.

PCB has not that much money to spend on women cricket, women cricketers from Pakistan are lucky enough to participate in World Cup. India Women team is not different then Pakistan, they lost miserably to new zealand just before this world cup. Though India won to Pakistan there is rear chance that they can beat teams like Aus, England and New Zealand.

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India beat Pakistan by 107 runs. I was so surprised and also disappointed by the performance of the Pakistan women's cricket team. Expected a much better performance from them. I think they started well but the middle order partnership of India took the match away from them and also the Pakistan batting was really unsatisfactory. They did not bat well at all and had a quite regular fall of wickets.

For me there was no surprise in this match, but I have one good thing as Pakistani bowlers done very good job because before start of this match I was expecting 300+ from Indian team, but they reduced to 244 which was very good job by Pakistani women but sadly in batting they struggle very badly and lost all wickets very cheaply but still it is very good from them and after this match these ladies still can feel good because Indian team is very experienced, and they have much better facilities and finances, but they still give them good fight hopefully this could be very good experience for them in near future and these ladies will have some better environment which will help them for better technique's and better skills which will help them for having better results in near future in this game.

I wasn't actually that surprised by the result but I was surprised to see the skill difference between both the teams because obviously you can have a bad day and lose a match but the skill difference between both teams is really visible. I know that when I think about the facilities and every other aspect it makes sense but still it was not acceptable, to be honest. I think they could have done better.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on March 07, 2022, 07:55:29 AM

Where do you see that Indian women's team won the world cup three times? I think you counted the three times when India hosted the women world cup but they never won it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_Cricket_World_Cup

It's very much clear from this data that only England, New Zealand and Australia have capable women teams rest of the countries don't have team that can compete with these three women big 3. The worst part of BCCI who is richest board in the world and host of worlds most expensive T20 league is taking women cricket for granted.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on March 06, 2022, 01:52:29 PM

Quote from: JohnBitCo on March 06, 2022, 01:33:31 PM

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I just checked the history of the women world cup and it is dominated by only two nations, England and Australia. Only these two nations have shared the trophy between them and only once NZ win the world cup. In this situation, both India and Pakistan stand no chance of winning the cup even though i guess that the indian team is better than the Pakistan women's team

When you checked the history you missed that India woman won the world cup three times along with England and Australia woman won twice just like New Zealand Woman and i was not aware of the history about who won the world cup until you said about the domination. So you cannot under estimate New Zealand and India along with England and Australia to win this years World Cup.

Where do you see that Indian women's team won the world cup three times? I think you counted the three times when India hosted the women world cup but they never won it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_Cricket_World_Cup

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