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Quote from: mm2543363580 on January 03, 2022, 02:06:07 PM

I think row between Ganguly and Kohli. They both have played there part and its the Indian cricket who has to suffer because of this conflict. BCCI did wrong by removing there ODI and T20 captain in such manner. Kohli is not performing, its because of this pressure or he is not interested in playing?

During 90s (when I was a kid), I used to be a die-hard fan of Ganguly. At least compared to the other players at that time (Sachin, Dravid.etc), Ganguly was known for his aggressiveness. He even had some issues with the national team coach, when he was the captain. Now Kohli is another player who is well known for his aggressive behavior. But the difference between Ganguly and Kohli is that the former never crossed the line and always maintained the protocol, while the latter blatantly violated it as per his will. IMO, Kohli needs to be blamed for his arrogance and that probably resulted in the ongoing issues with Ganguly and the other officials.

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Quote from: lixer on January 03, 2022, 12:42:18 PM

Look like now kohli is going to have his next 100+ at home due to injury. KL Rahul first time having captain batch look like not good for him as team fail to do good performance I am feeling even Rahane is not performing but still good in captaincy, so he deserves this spot for this match.

Kohli is having toughest time of his career. He is removed from captaincy and now under pressure not able to score runs. I think it will be a matter of time after which he will regain his form and start performing well again. Can anyone tell how much tests he has played in last 2 years?

I think row between Ganguly and Kohli. They both have played there part and its the Indian cricket who has to suffer because of this conflict. BCCI did wrong by removing there ODI and T20 captain in such manner. Kohli is not performing, its because of this pressure or he is not interested in playing?

This is nature because mostly few players have good impact on teams if they have trouble or something injury It's bring down confidence of team as well same happening in Indian squad they were on top sometime back and suddenly one wrong decision from BCCI now they are having many other wrong things appearing in front so better they need to settle then as soon as possible now with injury of Rohit Sharma another below for them in South African tour many good batsmen are not in good form, so hopefully they will do better way for end of this tour and next home series against West Indies.

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Quote from: galambo on January 03, 2022, 01:02:49 PM

Quote from: lixer on January 03, 2022, 12:42:18 PM

Look like now kohli is going to have his next 100+ at home due to injury. KL Rahul first time having captain batch look like not good for him as team fail to do good performance I am feeling even Rahane is not performing but still good in captaincy, so he deserves this spot for this match.

Kohli is having toughest time of his career. He is removed from captaincy and now under pressure not able to score runs. I think it will be a matter of time after which he will regain his form and start performing well again. Can anyone tell how much tests he has played in last 2 years?

I think row between Ganguly and Kohli. They both have played there part and its the Indian cricket who has to suffer because of this conflict. BCCI did wrong by removing there ODI and T20 captain in such manner. Kohli is not performing, its because of this pressure or he is not interested in playing?

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Quote from: lixer on January 03, 2022, 12:42:18 PM

Look like now kohli is going to have his next 100+ at home due to injury. KL Rahul first time having captain batch look like not good for him as team fail to do good performance I am feeling even Rahane is not performing but still good in captaincy, so he deserves this spot for this match.

Kohli is having toughest time of his career. He is removed from captaincy and now under pressure not able to score runs. I think it will be a matter of time after which he will regain his form and start performing well again. Can anyone tell how much tests he has played in last 2 years?

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 03, 2022, 05:51:47 AM

Kohli is waiting for his 71st century, 2 years and counting Roll Eyes

Don't know why they included Bumrah, he could use some rest. The way he's performing in Tests, he's national treasure, in fact he should be covered in wool by the BCCI and may be give him $1-2 million worth of extra contract so that he can play only in tests and WC, no need to waste his energy on bilateral limited cricket.

Look like now kohli is going to have his next 100+ at home due to injury. KL Rahul first time having captain batch look like not good for him as team fail to do good performance I am feeling even Rahane is not performing but still good in captaincy, so he deserves this spot for this match.

Here I agree with you about Bumrah but sadly BCCI is having some serious greediness which is not helping their players because they are having some good money and have no heart like ECB which is doing very good with Anderson and Broad these both having very good record in test matches even team is not doing good so BCCI also need to think in this way and give rest for South African ODI's, but sadly they are not serious about career of a great bowler like him.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 03, 2022, 05:51:47 AM

Kohli is waiting for his 71st century, 2 years and counting Roll Eyes

Don't know why they included Bumrah, he could use some rest. The way he's performing in Tests, he's national treasure, in fact he should be covered in wool by the BCCI and may be give him $1-2 million worth of extra contract so that he can play only in tests and WC, no need to waste his energy on bilateral limited cricket.

Are you serious? Man Jasprit Jasbirsingh Bumrah is just 28 years old and has played only 25 Tests so far. first he has long way to prove he is a national treasurer or not. Secondly, there is no need for such young player to be preserve for specific format. let him play till his 35 then we can think about that.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 03, 2022, 05:51:47 AM

Kohli is waiting for his 71st century, 2 years and counting Roll Eyes

Don't know why they included Bumrah, he could use some rest. The way he's performing in Tests, he's national treasure, in fact he should be covered in wool by the BCCI and may be give him $1-2 million worth of extra contract so that he can play only in tests and WC, no need to waste his energy on bilateral limited cricket.

Your point is valid. Bumrah is an asset to Indian cricket. So, the board can give him some rest from time to time and a fresh Bumrah would be more lethal than a tired one for sure. He is the best pacer for India in all 3 formats in my opinion and the board needs to play him carefully so that he doesn't get injured or burned out.

And I hope Kohli gets his long-awaited century, it has been quite a long since his last ton.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 03, 2022, 03:37:53 AM

Look like the miserable and insulting defeat of India in T20 World Cup and Under-19 WC by Pakistan has some negative effect on your mind as you think that Pakistan can't match the competition with the big 3. Open your eyes and see the recent performance of your beloved England. Even Bangladesh and Srilanka will beat them as they are showing some poor performances.

England was too strong in T20 don't know what happen in Ashes. May be they are too confident of win against Aussies, who were underdog in this series. If you wanna win big in Ashes then bet on Australia, they will surely whitewash this over rated English team.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on January 02, 2022, 10:12:22 AM

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Squad for ODI series

-Rohit is injured so KL Rahul is leading the Indian team.

Rohit being injured is very unfortunate for India. But nevertheless, after their disappointing T20 WC run, hope they will bounce back again against South Africa.

Team India looks quite solid in the bowling department and I think Virat and Rahul will have to play an important role in the batting department.

Overall SA is a very well team-oriented squad and as always they are very good in the fielding department. I'm hoping for a very competitive series and I'm eagerly waiting for some close thrilling matches. I Hope Rahul will do good in the captaincy role.

Kohli is waiting for his 71st century, 2 years and counting Roll Eyes

Don't know why they included Bumrah, he could use some rest. The way he's performing in Tests, he's national treasure, in fact he should be covered in wool by the BCCI and may be give him $1-2 million worth of extra contract so that he can play only in tests and WC, no need to waste his energy on bilateral limited cricket.

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Quote from: GbitG on January 02, 2022, 02:55:55 PM

Few peoples have dumb minds, and they are completely biased when they think about Pakistan because they are still feeling shame when they lost against Pakistan as they give their explanations without any authentic analysis currently just Australia, New Zealand and India are big teams in quality England is completely crap as they need some overhaul for having good comeback from these recent defeats which is not easy. Pakistan is currently most exciting and unpredictable team with every one want to watch and play but due to some good propaganda they hesitate to come in Pakistan, hopefully in next few years things will more clear and all teams will be able to visit Pakistan.

I am a big fan of Pakistan cricket they have produced great players in the past and right now they have some finest players in the side. Big three have commercialized cricket and they are controlling cricket on there own desires which is bad for small boards.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on January 02, 2022, 05:16:51 AM

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I think the big 3 will continue playing amount themselves they have already been doing. They would not include Pakistan as then they won't be able to absorb the Pakistani victories. Wink

May be that is the reason Pakistan needs to play Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and Bangladesh and they can tour West Indies because we can see competitive matches. They is no way Pakistan are going to tour England Australia or South Africa and expect any competition Wink

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Look like the miserable and insulting defeat of India in T20 World Cup and Under-19 WC by Pakistan has some negative effect on your mind as you think that Pakistan can't match the competition with the big 3. Open your eyes and see the recent performance of your beloved England. Even Bangladesh and Srilanka will beat them as they are showing some poor performances.

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Quote from: og kush420 on January 02, 2022, 07:10:18 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 02, 2022, 12:56:26 AM

I think the big 3 will continue playing amount themselves they have already been doing. They would not include Pakistan as then they won't be able to absorb the Pakistani victories. Wink

We have PSL and KPL to take some breath away from IPL and in the midterm, you will see PSL gaining more popularity.

We should think and focus on some matches and series between Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and Afghanistan. We have enough talent to attract the media / advertisers and money.

The only reason why countries are not playing with Pakistan is there rivalry with India. Aus and England are now coming to Pakistan in year 2022 along with NZ. Its very hard to eliminate Pakistan from cricket since they have one of the best T20 team. Also they have the potential to beat any team at any place.

Few peoples have dumb minds, and they are completely biased when they think about Pakistan because they are still feeling shame when they lost against Pakistan as they give their explanations without any authentic analysis currently just Australia, New Zealand and India are big teams in quality England is completely crap as they need some overhaul for having good comeback from these recent defeats which is not easy. Pakistan is currently most exciting and unpredictable team with every one want to watch and play but due to some good propaganda they hesitate to come in Pakistan, hopefully in next few years things will more clear and all teams will be able to visit Pakistan.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 02, 2022, 09:02:28 AM

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Squad for ODI series

-Rohit is injured so KL Rahul is leading the Indian team.

Rohit being injured is very unfortunate for India. But nevertheless, after their disappointing T20 WC run, hope they will bounce back again against South Africa.

Team India looks quite solid in the bowling department and I think Virat and Rahul will have to play an important role in the batting department.

Overall SA is a very well team-oriented squad and as always they are very good in the fielding department. I'm hoping for a very competitive series and I'm eagerly waiting for some close thrilling matches. I Hope Rahul will do good in the captaincy role.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 01, 2022, 09:12:39 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on January 01, 2022, 05:36:46 PM

BCCI is everything but delusional and bloody damn good when it comes to money printing scheme so they would focus on IPL only. BCCI will continue to play bilateral series tho but if things go really south then worst case scenario would be PIG 3 playing each other and in longer run Pakistan too.

If i'm not wrong then Sithara is pointing fingers towards IPL only, after all that's where BCCI earns money and if everything goes well with India's overall economy in next 10 years then i would say IPL going to explode real good. BCCI will add more teams for sure and will add more billions of dollars in their piggy bank, IPL media rights in value already surpassed the all ICC tournament rights combined. Watch out for upcoming media bidding, according to my reading its going break all previous records.

Apart from the IPL, the state-level leagues such as the Tamil Nadu Premier League (TNPL), T20 Mumbai League and the Karnataka Premier League also have the potential to bring big bucks for the BCCI. So far they have ignored this sector, and have imposed a lot of restrictions (ban on foreign players and even players from other state associations for example). Another new revenue source could be the WIPL. We have debated about this a lot, so I am going to skip. A third proposal is to start a second-division league, comprising of tier-2 and tier-3 cities (such as Raipur, Jammu, Guwahati.etc).

Sorry, i don't know much about state leagues so can't add anything useful in conversation but hope its not some amateur level league? WIPL is crucial for women cricket in India. I hope someone knock some sense into BCCI.

Squad for ODI series

-Rohit is injured so KL Rahul is leading the Indian team.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 02, 2022, 12:56:26 AM

I think the big 3 will continue playing amount themselves they have already been doing. They would not include Pakistan as then they won't be able to absorb the Pakistani victories. Wink

We have PSL and KPL to take some breath away from IPL and in the midterm, you will see PSL gaining more popularity.

We should think and focus on some matches and series between Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and Afghanistan. We have enough talent to attract the media / advertisers and money.

The only reason why countries are not playing with Pakistan is there rivalry with India. Aus and England are now coming to Pakistan in year 2022 along with NZ. Its very hard to eliminate Pakistan from cricket since they have one of the best T20 team. Also they have the potential to beat any team at any place.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on January 02, 2022, 05:16:51 AM

They is no way Pakistan are going to tour England Australia or South Africa and expect any competition Wink

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 02, 2022, 12:56:26 AM

We should think and focus on some matches and series between Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and Afghanistan. We have enough talent to attract the media / advertisers and money.

If every Cricket board and franchise could attract huge advertisement, let them make the money they aspire and if that can be used to improve cricket so be it.

I don't know what you are talking about. In 2021, Pakistan toured SA and won T20 series 4-1 and ODI series 2-1. Pakistan will tour SA as SA is touring Pakistan, Moreover Pakistan completely outclassed India in there last T20 encounter. Pakistan is no doubt one of the strongest team in Cricket world. India rivalry doesn't Pakistan side is weak.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 02, 2022, 12:56:26 AM

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I think the big 3 will continue playing amount themselves they have already been doing. They would not include Pakistan as then they won't be able to absorb the Pakistani victories. Wink

May be that is the reason Pakistan needs to play Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and Bangladesh and they can tour West Indies because we can see competitive matches. They is no way Pakistan are going to tour England Australia or South Africa and expect any competition Wink

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 02, 2022, 12:56:26 AM

We should think and focus on some matches and series between Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and Afghanistan. We have enough talent to attract the media / advertisers and money.

If every Cricket board and franchise could attract huge advertisement, let them make the money they aspire and if that can be used to improve cricket so be it.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 31, 2021, 09:50:16 PM

If the future of Sri Lankan cricket is looking bad... then what do you say about that of teams like Pakistan and Bangladesh? At least Sri Lanka managed to reach the finals. But the one sided nature of matches is a cause for worry. The gap between pig-3 (India in this case) and the rest is widening. Cricket is dying outside the tier-1 test nations. And even among the lower ranking test nations, the future is not looking very bright. I won't be surprised if India ends up like the US in basketball, in 5-10 years from now.

NBA in The USA and IPL in India is completely different, and I am not agreed with you here that India could on this level in next few years because we have 3 different formats and all need some good quality and skills for having good form which is not possible for them with just IPL their other domestic set up is not good enough for producing good players and Australia having very good record in this with their strong domestic system now New Zealand is also improving quality after having some good intention from youths and better results in last two ODI world cups with WTC win is bonus for them.

England requires some good changes, then surely they will also back in form with some better quality. With all difficulties and dirty politics, Pakistan is also doing good in cricket for many years.

BCCI is everything but delusional and bloody damn good when it comes to money printing scheme so they would focus on IPL only. BCCI will continue to play bilateral series tho but if things go really south then worst case scenario would be PIG 3 playing each other and in longer run Pakistan too.

I think the big 3 will continue playing amount themselves they have already been doing. They would not include Pakistan as then they won't be able to absorb the Pakistani victories. Wink

We have PSL and KPL to take some breath away from IPL and in the midterm, you will see PSL gaining more popularity.

We should think and focus on some matches and series between Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and Afghanistan. We have enough talent to attract the media / advertisers and money.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 01, 2022, 05:36:46 PM

BCCI is everything but delusional and bloody damn good when it comes to money printing scheme so they would focus on IPL only. BCCI will continue to play bilateral series tho but if things go really south then worst case scenario would be PIG 3 playing each other and in longer run Pakistan too.

If i'm not wrong then Sithara is pointing fingers towards IPL only, after all that's where BCCI earns money and if everything goes well with India's overall economy in next 10 years then i would say IPL going to explode real good. BCCI will add more teams for sure and will add more billions of dollars in their piggy bank, IPL media rights in value already surpassed the all ICC tournament rights combined. Watch out for upcoming media bidding, according to my reading its going break all previous records.

Apart from the IPL, the state-level leagues such as the Tamil Nadu Premier League (TNPL), T20 Mumbai League and the Karnataka Premier League also have the potential to bring big bucks for the BCCI. So far they have ignored this sector, and have imposed a lot of restrictions (ban on foreign players and even players from other state associations for example). Another new revenue source could be the WIPL. We have debated about this a lot, so I am going to skip. A third proposal is to start a second-division league, comprising of tier-2 and tier-3 cities (such as Raipur, Jammu, Guwahati.etc).

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on January 01, 2022, 01:58:05 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on December 31, 2021, 09:50:16 PM

If the future of Sri Lankan cricket is looking bad... then what do you say about that of teams like Pakistan and Bangladesh? At least Sri Lanka managed to reach the finals. But the one sided nature of matches is a cause for worry. The gap between pig-3 (India in this case) and the rest is widening. Cricket is dying outside the tier-1 test nations. And even among the lower ranking test nations, the future is not looking very bright. I won't be surprised if India ends up like the US in basketball, in 5-10 years from now.

NBA in The USA and IPL in India is completely different, and I am not agreed with you here that India could on this level in next few years because we have 3 different formats and all need some good quality and skills for having good form which is not possible for them with just IPL their other domestic set up is not good enough for producing good players and Australia having very good record in this with their strong domestic system now New Zealand is also improving quality after having some good intention from youths and better results in last two ODI world cups with WTC win is bonus for them.

England requires some good changes, then surely they will also back in form with some better quality. With all difficulties and dirty politics, Pakistan is also doing good in cricket for many years.

BCCI is everything but delusional and bloody damn good when it comes to money printing scheme so they would focus on IPL only. BCCI will continue to play bilateral series tho but if things go really south then worst case scenario would be PIG 3 playing each other and in longer run Pakistan too.

If i'm not wrong then Sithara is pointing fingers towards IPL only, after all that's where BCCI earns money and if everything goes well with India's overall economy in next 10 years then i would say IPL going to explode real good. BCCI will add more teams for sure and will add more billions of dollars in their piggy bank, IPL media rights in value already surpassed the all ICC tournament rights combined. Watch out for upcoming media bidding, according to my reading its going break all previous records.

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