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Quote from: Minor Miner on December 23, 2021, 04:09:00 AM

In UAE U19 vs India U19 match, UAE won the toss and sent India to bat. India lost 3 wickets in 43 overs and collected 215 runs. Maybe to collect like 260. This run is enough to defeat the UAE team. If India had given the target between 200-220 then maybe the match would have been competitive. However, since no international match is being held now, I am enjoying the youth match.

India won the match by a huge margin of 154 runs. Most of the players in the UAE are of Indian descent. Mostly e young. Though I didn't think they would win against India, I thought they would be able to collect around 180-200. But UAE lost all their wickets for only 128 runs. Since the UAE board is recruiting players from other countries, they should recruit more talented players.

UAE opener Kai Smith played an innings of 45 runs. I have not seen any other batsman perform better than him. Countries like UAE and Oman hire players and add them to the national team. The ICC should make some rules in this regard. Otherwise such tendency will increase. Countries should pay more attention to their domestic players.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on December 23, 2021, 04:09:00 AM

In UAE U19 vs India U19 match, UAE won the toss and sent India to bat. India lost 3 wickets in 43 overs and collected 215 runs. Maybe to collect like 260. This run is enough to defeat the UAE team. If India had given the target between 200-220 then maybe the match would have been competitive. However, since no international match is being held now, I am enjoying the youth match.

India won the match by a huge margin of 154 runs. Most of the players in the UAE are of Indian descent. Mostly e young. Though I didn't think they would win against India, I thought they would be able to collect around 180-200. But UAE lost all their wickets for only 128 runs. Since the UAE board is recruiting players from other countries, they should recruit more talented players.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 23, 2021, 04:40:26 AM

Not a single local player and 99% of players in UAE squad are Indians. UAE cricket association looks like big scam and joke to me. They along with Asian cricket council making mockery of Asia cup. Only valid reason of this quackery i can think of is, illegal satta market, that's it.

Not only in UAE, the whole gulf cricket teams compositions are like that. See Oman cricket team in last T20 WC coming up with all players from South Asia. If gulf countries have no interest in cricket then why ICC allowing them to make fun of cricket with such team composition.

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Not a single local player and 99% of players in UAE squad are Indians. UAE cricket association looks like big scam and joke to me. They along with Asian cricket council making mockery of Asia cup. Only valid reason of this quackery i can think of is, illegal satta market, that's it.

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In UAE U19 vs India U19 match, UAE won the toss and sent India to bat. India lost 3 wickets in 43 overs and collected 215 runs. Maybe to collect like 260. This run is enough to defeat the UAE team. If India had given the target between 200-220 then maybe the match would have been competitive. However, since no international match is being held now, I am enjoying the youth match.

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CA seems usual suspect in all kind of fuckery. Last time they ditched South Africa and recently cancelled one off test against Afghanistan so i won't be surprise if they pull out more excuses before this tour or put pressure on PCB to play in UAE. I think PCB should stick to their guns and should demand of considering test series as forfeited by SENA countries, in case they don't want to visit Pakistan. Give all WTC points to Pakistan but ofc Rambo need to stand up for PCB.

I am not going to be too harsh on CA, regarding South Africa and Afghanistan. At this point it is utter stupidity to visit South Africa. The Omicron strain is wrecking havoc there, and they are now reporting 20,000+ cases per day and 100+ deaths. Afghanistan is currently under the control of the Taliban and any sporting relationship with that country would be akin to legitimizing the terror regime. And I really don't think that Pakistan will receive the WTC points if the SENA teams pull out, because they don't have enough support within the ICC.

Hard to argue CA's case considering they didn't even bother to reschedule the SA series, still no talk whatsoever and refused to travel for long haul since the pandemic hit the world. We can argue that players safety is important and bubbles are tough but at the same time they hosted India and playing Ashes.

The reports i read about Omicron in SA, it indicates that it already peaked and now on decline.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 22, 2021, 04:13:07 AM

CA seems usual suspect in all kind of fuckery. Last time they ditched South Africa and recently cancelled one off test against Afghanistan so i won't be surprise if they pull out more excuses before this tour or put pressure on PCB to play in UAE. I think PCB should stick to their guns and should demand of considering test series as forfeited by SENA countries, in case they don't want to visit Pakistan. Give all WTC points to Pakistan but ofc Rambo need to stand up for PCB.

I am not going to be too harsh on CA, regarding South Africa and Afghanistan. At this point it is utter stupidity to visit South Africa. The Omicron strain is wrecking havoc there, and they are now reporting 20,000+ cases per day and 100+ deaths. Afghanistan is currently under the control of the Taliban and any sporting relationship with that country would be akin to legitimizing the terror regime. And I really don't think that Pakistan will receive the WTC points if the SENA teams pull out, because they don't have enough support within the ICC.

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@Sithara007 the thing I’m interested to see is if the main player’s of these teams will travel to Pakistan or will they send their reserve player’s to play, but whichever happens it’s a positive step for Pakistan. Also you’re right I don’t think Asia cup is an important tournament now, and maybe it’ll be eventually scrapped due to less demand for it.

Doesn't matter whether there main players or reserve players come to Pakistan. The point is Aus team is coming to Pakistan and if CA is concerned about security of there players then they will not send there reserve players also. Since security of reserve players is equally important. If CA is coming to Pakistan then rest of countries will also come.

Let them first come, they always cancel it suddenly without any prior notice. Yes, you are correct it does not matter whether the reserve players are coming or the main players, they are basically representing their country. I am still not confident that this series will happen. Australia has cancelled many tournaments in the past because of the COVID surge. They might again use the same tactics because of the new variant.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 22, 2021, 04:13:07 AM

CA seems usual suspect in all kind of fuckery. Last time they ditched South Africa and recently cancelled one off test against Afghanistan so i won't be surprise if they pull out more excuses before this tour or put pressure on PCB to play in UAE. I think PCB should stick to their guns and should demand of considering test series as forfeited by SENA countries, in case they don't want to visit Pakistan. Give all WTC points to Pakistan but ofc Rambo need to stand up for PCB.

Now one thing is sure Rambo is going to be stood for PCB because he is very stick person, and he has some good experience of handling things like this even Australian history is not good about touring of these countries like Pakistan and South Africa but still it is good if they will go ahead because now security issue is going to be better in last few months even in Afghanistan is having some better under Taliban control but still nothing is sure about this any time any trigger and all gone because many stakeholders are not happy with current situation even there is some better situation instead of last regime or so called democratic.

After checking this calendar look like cricket is surely having some better time here in this country but still we have to wait and watch for all until matches started.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on December 21, 2021, 10:34:07 PM

@Sithara007 the thing I’m interested to see is if the main player’s of these teams will travel to Pakistan or will they send their reserve player’s to play, but whichever happens it’s a positive step for Pakistan. Also you’re right I don’t think Asia cup is an important tournament now, and maybe it’ll be eventually scrapped due to less demand for it.

Doesn't matter whether there main players or reserve players come to Pakistan. The point is Aus team is coming to Pakistan and if CA is concerned about security of there players then they will not send there reserve players also. Since security of reserve players is equally important. If CA is coming to Pakistan then rest of countries will also come.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 21, 2021, 09:50:50 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on December 20, 2021, 02:40:47 AM

Bloody hell... That's some quality home season, good for Pakistani cricket and fans. Props to Rambo Ramiz for pushing the idea of playing at home only. Let's hope SENA countries avoid fucking up this one more time.

Asia Cup sounds tough but its very far.

SENA countries will find some excuse at the last moment. And forget about Asia Cup. It is a failed idea. I don't think that there will be anymore editions of this tournament. With so many franchise T20 tournaments and leagues, there is simply not enough time to block two weeks just for this one. I guess the future editions of the Asia cup will be U-23 or U-19 tournaments. Teams like India are having packed international calendar, and they won't be able to spare enough time for the preparation. It will signal the death of Asian Cricket Council as well.

CA seems usual suspect in all kind of fuckery. Last time they ditched South Africa and recently cancelled one off test against Afghanistan so i won't be surprise if they pull out more excuses before this tour or put pressure on PCB to play in UAE. I think PCB should stick to their guns and should demand of considering test series as forfeited by SENA countries, in case they don't want to visit Pakistan. Give all WTC points to Pakistan but ofc Rambo need to stand up for PCB.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 21, 2021, 09:50:50 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on December 20, 2021, 02:40:47 AM

Bloody hell... That's some quality home season, good for Pakistani cricket and fans. Props to Rambo Ramiz for pushing the idea of playing at home only. Let's hope SENA countries avoid fucking up this one more time.

Asia Cup sounds tough but its very far.

SENA countries will find some excuse at the last moment. And forget about Asia Cup. It is a failed idea. I don't think that there will be anymore editions of this tournament. With so many franchise T20 tournaments and leagues, there is simply not enough time to block two weeks just for this one. I guess the future editions of the Asia cup will be U-23 or U-19 tournaments. Teams like India are having packed international calendar, and they won't be able to spare enough time for the preparation. It will signal the death of Asian Cricket Council as well.

@Sithara007 the thing I’m interested to see is if the main player’s of these teams will travel to Pakistan or will they send their reserve player’s to play, but whichever happens it’s a positive step for Pakistan. Also you’re right I don’t think Asia cup is an important tournament now, and maybe it’ll be eventually scrapped due to less demand for it.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 20, 2021, 02:40:47 AM

Bloody hell... That's some quality home season, good for Pakistani cricket and fans. Props to Rambo Ramiz for pushing the idea of playing at home only. Let's hope SENA countries avoid fucking up this one more time.

Asia Cup sounds tough but its very far.

SENA countries will find some excuse at the last moment. And forget about Asia Cup. It is a failed idea. I don't think that there will be anymore editions of this tournament. With so many franchise T20 tournaments and leagues, there is simply not enough time to block two weeks just for this one. I guess the future editions of the Asia cup will be U-23 or U-19 tournaments. Teams like India are having packed international calendar, and they won't be able to spare enough time for the preparation. It will signal the death of Asian Cricket Council as well.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 20, 2021, 02:40:47 AM

Bloody hell... That's some quality home season, good for Pakistani cricket and fans. Props to Rambo Ramiz for pushing the idea of playing at home only. Let's hope SENA countries avoid fucking up this one more time.

Asia Cup sounds tough but its very far.

Ad is looking very good and if this all happened as plane, surely we are going to have some very good revival of cricket and other sports in Pakistan because now it's very long time we have no good news about sports win for Pakistan.
In last 2 decades we lost all good things which were on top like Hockey, Squash, Snooker and Volleyball. New peoples having offices with very professional approach is very good but still it's very long way to go because uncertainty is having big impact on this all.

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Bloody hell... That's some quality home season, good for Pakistani cricket and fans. Props to Rambo Ramiz for pushing the idea of playing at home only. Let's hope SENA countries avoid fucking up this one more time.

Asia Cup sounds tough but its very far.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on December 19, 2021, 01:32:37 PM

Aus tour is planned in Mar 2022, things will be cleared in few week whether they are touring Pakistan or not. This time Covid19 will be another concern apart from security. PCB has done everything that a board can do to bring cricket back but few boards are still not in favor of touring Pakistan, which is not good for cricket in the long run.

What is new with this? Teams have refused to tour Pakistan for almost two decades now, and it has nothing to do with COVID. When was the last time that the Indian team toured Pakistan? Ever since the ICC moved under the dominance of big-3, weaker boards like Pakistan have lost their relevance. After Shashank Manohar became the ICC head, there was some improvement. The voting structure was changed, in order to dilute the dominance of the big-3 boards. But I am yet to see any implications on ground.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on December 19, 2021, 01:32:37 PM

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Teams refusing to tour Pakistan is entirely another subject and I don't want to re-ignite the discussion on that topic. But if what you are claiming is true, then it is disappointing from the part of the PCB. This year, the PSL had to be stopped mid way. I was thinking that they would have learnt their lesson by then. If they made the same mistake again, as a result of their carelessness, then it is unpardonable. And these sort of mistakes should not be made at this time, especially when the Omicron strain is spreading.

Aus tour is planned in Mar 2022, things will be cleared in few week whether they are touring Pakistan or not. This time Covid19 will be another concern apart from security. PCB has done everything that a board can do to bring cricket back but few boards are still not in favor of touring Pakistan, which is not good for cricket in the long run.

I don't think Australia is coming in March 2022 because PCB is working on PSL7 which is going to hold in this month, so they will not do this and currently no one is sure about this tour because Australia is very complicated country in few things so if they will not visit Pakistan then surely they are not going to have any serious trouble because now after visit of West Indies they are feeling some better and now most work is going to PSL7 if they are able to handle this well then surely it's going to be good for them and other visiting teams they will feel better for visiting Pakistan.

Another thing is also possible that Australia will send very few Senior Players and some new players from A team because their few main players will also busy in IPL which is more important for them instead tour of Pakistan.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 18, 2021, 10:02:19 PM

Teams refusing to tour Pakistan is entirely another subject and I don't want to re-ignite the discussion on that topic. But if what you are claiming is true, then it is disappointing from the part of the PCB. This year, the PSL had to be stopped mid way. I was thinking that they would have learnt their lesson by then. If they made the same mistake again, as a result of their carelessness, then it is unpardonable. And these sort of mistakes should not be made at this time, especially when the Omicron strain is spreading.

Aus tour is planned in Mar 2022, things will be cleared in few week whether they are touring Pakistan or not. This time Covid19 will be another concern apart from security. PCB has done everything that a board can do to bring cricket back but few boards are still not in favor of touring Pakistan, which is not good for cricket in the long run.

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Quote from: lixer on December 17, 2021, 12:28:46 PM

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Right now biggest challenge is winning a series in South Africa which is possible with current team and performance but this need some good coordination between team and management.

BCCI, Indian team, Every critics of Indian cricket in India, Indian fans (Even salty ones) want team India to succeed in South Africa because we are still searching for our first test series win at their backyard. Our middle order struggling badly but i still think that we have fair chance of winning the series or at least compete against the hostile SA's bowlers.

Virtually no interest in ODI atm.

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Quote from: Emitdama on December 18, 2021, 02:44:50 PM

Here no one will agree with your statement that big boards will have excuse for not touring because we already have too many cases in recent time and all are playing usual with no excuse. If some player is breaking rules then management is giving him punishment because they all know about this, and it's not case of host country it's all done by their own because it's for their own safety for nothing else.

All countries having all facilities about tests and about handling these covid cases. Even now Pakistan is also doing much good for this because they also know how this is going to be problem for them if they fail to handle this properly.

Correct. Nobody understand importance of foreign team visiting there country other then PCB. They don't have any roam for any single mistake. Covid19 is complicated, no testing is 100% successful. The new variant is not detected on current testing kits. Players roam in different countries, they have more chances of getting covid19.

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