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Quote from: pakhitheboss on November 13, 2021, 03:48:03 AM

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Right after the T20 world cup, Pakistan will be visiting Bangladesh to play three one day international and three test matches starting form 19 November. Seeing the current form of both the teams in the recent world cup, i think Pakistan should white wash the series however, not to forget, Bangladesh have a good record in their home ground and they are one of those teams who play better cricket at home.

Pakistan is very good in T20 but not same good in tests and ODI. On the other hand Bangladesh must be looking for some wins against Pakistan to overcome there bad performance in T20 WC. Bangladesh has never won a test match against Pakistan, so Pakistan need to be careful to maintain that record. Bangladesh holds a record of 3-0 in ODI series against Pakistan in 2015.

Pakistan is a far better team than Bangladesh. They will easily win the series the T20 series. About the test series after the recent win in the T20 world cup, the team will be full of confidence and I am sure they will try to win the test series too but in the past, they have played very badly the test format. So it is a dice situation but we will be enjoying some good cricket.

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Bangladesh is better at one-day internationals than t20 or test cricket. But Bangladesh is going through a really bad form right now and that will obviously affect their performance. And with all the politics going on in the Bangladesh cricket board and the players having problems with the board and the coaches, there might be a lot of problems that will reflect on their performance.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on November 13, 2021, 03:48:03 AM

Pakistan is a far better team than Bangladesh. They will easily win the series the T20 series. About the test series after the recent win in the T20 world cup, the team will be full of confidence and I am sure they will try to win the test series too but in the past, they have played very badly the test format. So it is a dice situation but we will be enjoying some good cricket.

Good to see slow and proper cricket in the form of test matches after volatile T20 WC. If you see Pakistan T20 squad it still has hassan Ali. I think hassan must be given some rest to regain his form. Hafeez is drooped and in form Iftikhar Ahmed is in the squad. Shoaib malik is also in squad, he must also be replaced by some young player.
Test squad is not announced , it may be announced during T20s.

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Quote from: Fritwakky on November 13, 2021, 12:09:30 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on November 12, 2021, 11:47:02 PM

Right after the T20 world cup, Pakistan will be visiting Bangladesh to play three one day international and three test matches starting form 19 November. Seeing the current form of both the teams in the recent world cup, i think Pakistan should white wash the series however, not to forget, Bangladesh have a good record in their home ground and they are one of those teams who play better cricket at home.

Pakistan is very good in T20 but not same good in tests and ODI. On the other hand Bangladesh must be looking for some wins against Pakistan to overcome there bad performance in T20 WC. Bangladesh has never won a test match against Pakistan, so Pakistan need to be careful to maintain that record. Bangladesh holds a record of 3-0 in ODI series against Pakistan in 2015.

Pakistan is a far better team than Bangladesh. They will easily win the series the T20 series. About the test series after the recent win in the T20 world cup, the team will be full of confidence and I am sure they will try to win the test series too but in the past, they have played very badly the test format. So it is a dice situation but we will be enjoying some good cricket.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on November 12, 2021, 11:47:02 PM

Right after the T20 world cup, Pakistan will be visiting Bangladesh to play three one day international and three test matches starting form 19 November. Seeing the current form of both the teams in the recent world cup, i think Pakistan should white wash the series however, not to forget, Bangladesh have a good record in their home ground and they are one of those teams who play better cricket at home.

Pakistan is very good in T20 but not same good in tests and ODI. On the other hand Bangladesh must be looking for some wins against Pakistan to overcome there bad performance in T20 WC. Bangladesh has never won a test match against Pakistan, so Pakistan need to be careful to maintain that record. Bangladesh holds a record of 3-0 in ODI series against Pakistan in 2015.

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Right after the T20 world cup, Pakistan will be visiting Bangladesh to play three one day international and three test matches starting form 19 November. Seeing the current form of both the teams in the recent world cup, i think Pakistan should white wash the series however, not to forget, Bangladesh have a good record in their home ground and they are one of those teams who play better cricket at home.

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Quote from: Fritwakky on November 12, 2021, 02:33:33 PM

That's very much correct. Pakistan failed to provide adequate security to SL team back in 2009 and they are facing consequences till date. I also agree with what Ramiz Raja (chairman PCB) was saying that all boards must understand each other problems and must cooperate. I am convinced that big 3 and NZ wont care for problems of small boards since they have enough money in there bag. But situation can become tough for such boards also like the Christ Church situation.

The Christchurch attack was committed by a "lone wolf" terrorist. The probability of a major terrorist incident occurring in New Zealand is still a than thousand times lower than the case with Pakistan. So what happened in Christchurch can't be used to justify, or reduce the significance of what occurred in Karachi. And it has nothing to do with the pig-4 classification. Western countries do take security very seriously. Even teams like Ireland or Netherlands would do the same, if they are faced with similar issues.

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The problem is the percentage of people that are actually educated is very low and we can mostly see that there are a lot of people in power who are not that highly educated or probably not the best fit for the job. Just look at the Bangladesh cricket board President. What does he actually know about cricket?

So with political power you can be the president of a cricket board, which is fascinating but without knowing about the infrastructure, how is he going to make any changes that could improve the development of cricket in the country. I understand that when there is huge money involved you will attract power hungry individuals and may be that is what we are seeing.

I am surprised that the conspiracy theory keeps on coming on a daily basis Cheesy

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To some extent what he is saying is true. When you mix up politics with sports the result is always bad. This did happen with BCCI and after a lot of struggle and court cases, things have changed. Any sporting board should be handled by the players of that sports, sadly it does not happen in most third world country.

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The problem is the percentage of people that are actually educated is very low and we can mostly see that there are a lot of people in power who are not that highly educated or probably not the best fit for the job. Just look at the Bangladesh cricket board President. What does he actually know about cricket?

So with political power you can be the president of a cricket board, which is fascinating but without knowing about the infrastructure, how is he going to make any changes that could improve the development of cricket in the country. I understand that when there is huge money involved you will attract power hungry individuals and may be that is what we are seeing.

I am surprised that the conspiracy theory keeps on coming on a daily basis Cheesy

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Quote from: kro55 on November 12, 2021, 02:25:14 PM

This is true that Pakistan may have failed to provide good enough security for the Touring team, this is also true that sometimes attacks can happen from really unexpected angles or situations. We all remember that Christ Church situation where there could have been a real problem for team Bangladesh. I know that the Bangladesh team went to the mosque voluntarily but the situation could be really bad. All I'm trying to say is sometimes the best security is not enough and the government of the hosting country has to take the blame and I don't think that's fair enough.

That's very much correct. Pakistan failed to provide adequate security to SL team back in 2009 and they are facing consequences till date. I also agree with what Ramiz Raja (chairman PCB) was saying that all boards must understand each other problems and must cooperate. I am convinced that big 3 and NZ wont care for problems of small boards since they have enough money in there bag. But situation can become tough for such boards also like the Christ Church situation.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 11, 2021, 10:06:53 PM

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^ I think these allegations are absolutely baseless. People nowadays, just I want to find some news that will create some buzz. We know a lot of teams have been canceling their tours in Pakistan because of security shoes their worries are not absolutely baseless or unjustifiable. I mean, after all, security comes first so if the players for the board things that there might be some issues they can cancel the tour and it's as simple as that, and making a scene or some baseless rumors around that is unnecessary in my opinion.

Agreed. The Sri Lankan team was attacked while they were touring Pakistan and that is the reason why foreign teams undertake a detailed security evaluation everytime before they tour that country. So their concerns can't be just ignored or swept under the carpet. Blaming India may be a tactic from the PCB to shift the responsibility. They failed to provide the adequate security cover for the touring teams and now they want to divert the discussion by blaming the BCCI. Things doesn't just add up when they make these allegations.

This is true that Pakistan may have failed to provide good enough security for the Touring team, this is also true that sometimes attacks can happen from really unexpected angles or situations. We all remember that Christ Church situation where there could have been a real problem for team Bangladesh. I know that the Bangladesh team went to the mosque voluntarily but the situation could be really bad. All I'm trying to say is sometimes the best security is not enough and the government of the hosting country has to take the blame and I don't think that's fair enough.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on November 11, 2021, 04:29:12 PM

Dirty politics is really the biggest threat for peoples in this region because we are not well-educated religion is having some good impact as well, so many things can happen even from Pakistan Prime Minister saying BCCI behind this all but no one have any proof what happen how this all gone. Right now we need to look forward which is still uncertain because we have no good environment which bring some healthy rivalry like European countries.

They are doing many things in positive way because now they are well-prepared for this all and here we are still fighting for Masjid and Mandar because here we all know this is created by just very few peoples but no one want to control them.

Now Australia will come or no time will tell all after four months and how is cricket going in Pakistan It's still very unclear because every want his own viewpoint which is very important.

If India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri lanka cricket boards get united and cooperate with each other they all will get huge financial benefits. But BCCI is so rich that he rarely cares for other boards in this region.
What NZ did with Pakistan is not justified and answer must be given by all boards of sub-continent but they are divided, so no one cares about that issue. I am sure it happened with PCB today, it will happen to some other Asian board in future too and at that time too other boards will remain silent. So they will keep on doing that.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on November 11, 2021, 04:29:12 PM

Dirty politics is really the biggest threat for peoples in this region because we are not well-educated religion is having some good impact as well, so many things can happen even from Pakistan Prime Minister saying BCCI behind this all but no one have any proof what happen how this all gone. Right now we need to look forward which is still uncertain because we have no good environment which bring some healthy rivalry like European countries.
They are doing many things in positive way because now they are well-prepared for this all and here we are still fighting for Masjid and Mandar because here we all know this is created by just very few peoples but no one want to control them.
Now Australia will come or no time will tell all after four months and how is cricket going in Pakistan It's still very unclear because every want his own viewpoint which is very important.

The problem is the percentage of people that are actually educated is very low and we can mostly see that there are a lot of people in power who are not that highly educated or probably not the best fit for the job. Just look at the Bangladesh cricket board President. What does he actually know about cricket?

In my opinion, he is not the best man for the job but he is still there and the main reason is politics. A man who does not care about the 'code of conduct with the players should not be about the president it is as simple as that. And this type of thing is very often happening in the subcontinent. And when the main target is to make someone feel inferior or earn money cricket cannot prosper in that situation.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 11, 2021, 10:06:53 PM

Agreed. The Sri Lankan team was attacked while they were touring Pakistan and that is the reason why foreign teams undertake a detailed security evaluation everytime before they tour that country. So their concerns can't be just ignored or swept under the carpet. Blaming India may be a tactic from the PCB to shift the responsibility. They failed to provide the adequate security cover for the touring teams and now they want to divert the discussion by blaming the BCCI. Things doesn't just add up when they make these allegations.

After attack on SL team we saw successful tour of SL, WI, SA and Zim to Pakistan. Bangladesh team escaped narrowly in NZ mosque attacks but no country refuse to tour NZ on security grounds. We know how big rivalry is b/w India n Pakistan, thats why we can't ignore role of BCCI in NZ tour cancellation. Anyways there some positive gestures from ECB n CA, lets hope they tour Pakistan.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on November 11, 2021, 10:53:36 AM

^ I think these allegations are absolutely baseless. People nowadays, just I want to find some news that will create some buzz. We know a lot of teams have been canceling their tours in Pakistan because of security shoes their worries are not absolutely baseless or unjustifiable. I mean, after all, security comes first so if the players for the board things that there might be some issues they can cancel the tour and it's as simple as that, and making a scene or some baseless rumors around that is unnecessary in my opinion.

Agreed. The Sri Lankan team was attacked while they were touring Pakistan and that is the reason why foreign teams undertake a detailed security evaluation everytime before they tour that country. So their concerns can't be just ignored or swept under the carpet. Blaming India may be a tactic from the PCB to shift the responsibility. They failed to provide the adequate security cover for the touring teams and now they want to divert the discussion by blaming the BCCI. Things doesn't just add up when they make these allegations.

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This is just outright ridiculous. Do you really think that Pakistan will lose to Australia in the semifinals, just because CA promised to tour Pakistan? This allegation is as baseless as the one we had when New Zealand pulled out of the Pakistan tour. Back then, a lot of people here were saying that the BCCI asked New Zealand to pull out. Later it was proved that it was the New Zealand government which was behind the decision. And although CA has made the announcement, I am still not 100% sure about the tour. Some of the Australian players have already made negative statements about it.

Australia themselves have made them loo suspicious by announcing the tour just before the semi final . They were not visiting Pakistan even before 9/11 happened when all teams were happily visiting Pakistan and now all of sudden things changed. In the end its the decision of CA that matters not the players, if a player doesn't want to tour Pakistan then I am sure CA has replacement of that player. Even Pakistani coach is Australia Mathew Hayden.
Prime Minister of Pakistan sad that the reason for NZ tour cancellation was threat that originated from India, so we cant ignore the fact that BCCI is behind NZ tour cancellation.

I think those allegations were correct. Australia did win the semifinals and Pakistan did lose it. Now, what happened back door no one will ever know. If the Australian team now cancels the tournament then I am sure many interesting news we will hear. Time to wait and watch.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on November 11, 2021, 10:53:36 AM

I think these allegations are absolutely baseless. People nowadays, just I want to find some news that will create some buzz. We know a lot of teams have been canceling their tours in Pakistan because of security shoes their worries are not absolutely baseless or unjustifiable. I mean, after all, security comes first so if the players for the board things that there might be some issues they can cancel the tour and it's as simple as that, and making a scene or some baseless rumors around that is unnecessary in my opinion.

Dirty politics is really the biggest threat for peoples in this region because we are not well-educated religion is having some good impact as well, so many things can happen even from Pakistan Prime Minister saying BCCI behind this all but no one have any proof what happen how this all gone. Right now we need to look forward which is still uncertain because we have no good environment which bring some healthy rivalry like European countries.

They are doing many things in positive way because now they are well-prepared for this all and here we are still fighting for Masjid and Mandar because here we all know this is created by just very few peoples but no one want to control them.

Now Australia will come or no time will tell all after four months and how is cricket going in Pakistan It's still very unclear because every want his own viewpoint which is very important.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 10, 2021, 09:51:18 PM

This is just outright ridiculous. Do you really think that Pakistan will lose to Australia in the semifinals, just because CA promised to tour Pakistan? This allegation is as baseless as the one we had when New Zealand pulled out of the Pakistan tour. Back then, a lot of people here were saying that the BCCI asked New Zealand to pull out. Later it was proved that it was the New Zealand government which was behind the decision. And although CA has made the announcement, I am still not 100% sure about the tour. Some of the Australian players have already made negative statements about it.

Australia themselves have made them loo suspicious by announcing the tour just before the semi final . They were not visiting Pakistan even before 9/11 happened when all teams were happily visiting Pakistan and now all of sudden things changed. In the end its the decision of CA that matters not the players, if a player doesn't want to tour Pakistan then I am sure CA has replacement of that player. Even Pakistani coach is Australia Mathew Hayden.
Prime Minister of Pakistan sad that the reason for NZ tour cancellation was threat that originated from India, so we cant ignore the fact that BCCI is behind NZ tour cancellation.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 10, 2021, 09:51:18 PM

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Fully agree with you. It's just a tactics by Aussies to get sympathy of PCB before the semi final. I too was surprised after reading this news that how can Aus agree to play in Pakistan at a time when both England and NZ have canceled there tours. I don't think they are poor in making judgements rather they are smart in making announcements at crucial times. PCB also looks convinced they Aus won't come in March 2022.
So it's time to focus on remaining 2 games, as NZ has qualify for the final.

This is just outright ridiculous. Do you really think that Pakistan will lose to Australia in the semifinals, just because CA promised to tour Pakistan? This allegation is as baseless as the one we had when New Zealand pulled out of the Pakistan tour. Back then, a lot of people here were saying that the BCCI asked New Zealand to pull out. Later it was proved that it was the New Zealand government which was behind the decision. And although CA has made the announcement, I am still not 100% sure about the tour. Some of the Australian players have already made negative statements about it.

^ I think these allegations are absolutely baseless. People nowadays, just I want to find some news that will create some buzz. We know a lot of teams have been canceling their tours in Pakistan because of security shoes their worries are not absolutely baseless or unjustifiable. I mean, after all, security comes first so if the players for the board things that there might be some issues they can cancel the tour and it's as simple as that, and making a scene or some baseless rumors around that is unnecessary in my opinion.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 10, 2021, 09:51:18 PM

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Fully agree with you. It's just a tactics by Aussies to get sympathy of PCB before the semi final. I too was surprised after reading this news that how can Aus agree to play in Pakistan at a time when both England and NZ have canceled there tours. I don't think they are poor in making judgements rather they are smart in making announcements at crucial times. PCB also looks convinced they Aus won't come in March 2022.
So it's time to focus on remaining 2 games, as NZ has qualify for the final.

This is just outright ridiculous. Do you really think that Pakistan will lose to Australia in the semifinals, just because CA promised to tour Pakistan? This allegation is as baseless as the one we had when New Zealand pulled out of the Pakistan tour. Back then, a lot of people here were saying that the BCCI asked New Zealand to pull out. Later it was proved that it was the New Zealand government which was behind the decision. And although CA has made the announcement, I am still not 100% sure about the tour. Some of the Australian players have already made negative statements about it.

You shouldn't expect much from the average fans when ministers of Information & Broadcasting and Home Affairs together came out in press conference and gave hilarious solid proofs.

Just look at those emails and tweets. Epic meme content for rest of the cricket fraternity but embarrassed for genuine Pak's fans.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 09, 2021, 09:30:10 PM

What is wrong with these guys? So out of a total of 19 playing days, 15 days will be spent on test format, and the most popular format gets just one day. The mentality of the cricket boards is still stuck in the 1980s. What people want now is more T20 and ODI matches and not useless test matches. I would have limited the number of test matches to 1 and increased the number of ODIs and T20Is to 5 each. It doesn't make any sense at all, either from a financial perspective, or from a fan viewpoint.

Your have a valid point, I agree. We already have too much T20 cricket played in a calendar year in the form of WC and leagues. Remember proper cricket is Test match cricket and somewhat ODI. Boards are not ignoring Test and ODI since these formats help in rolling out genuine players that can perform well in T20. See yourself, today's all good hitters and bowlers are the one that have good Test and ODI records.

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