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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 19, 2021, 09:12:56 PM

Quote from: galambo on November 19, 2021, 10:54:43 AM

I have a different prespective on that. If we talk about Ireland it's a much developed country with infrastructure of football and other sports already there. But if we see country like Afghanistan or alike there is hardly any infrastructure there. Such factors must also be kept in mind while distributing funds to associate teams.

I don't agree with this argument. In that case Afghanistan should be provided with a smaller fund, as the cost of living is way below what it is in Ireland. And I don't understand what does it mean to have infrastructure in football and rugby. We are talking about cricket here. Are you going to deny them the funds, giving the excuse of a few existing football stadiums? OK.. leave aside Ireland. What about countries like Nepal, Papua New Guinea and Namibia? These are also poor countries like Afghanistan. So why should there be any special treatment just for Afghanistan?

Maybe because Afghanistan is going through a tough time right now? Call of the other countries mentioned have their own cricket board and have their own sponsors. But we all know Afghanistan went to play the T20 world cup depending on the money of Muhammad nabi himself. So I think if any team needs financial support right now it is Afghanistan.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on November 19, 2021, 06:29:32 PM

Too much cricket can be a reason but none of the players wants to miss IPL and neither does BCCI. Two more teams mean more chances for new and upcoming talent and $2 billion earning for BCCI. In the recent T20 with the NZ the team has performed exceptionally well under the new captain, which also proves that the leadership in the WC was not so competent.

Definitely no one wanna miss the ipl since its paying huge money which cricket player's haven't dreamed of. India is too good when it comes to playing on there home grounds. So it doesn't matter who is Indian captain on there home ground. Let's wait n see how India perform outside there country.

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Quote from: galambo on November 19, 2021, 10:54:43 AM

I have a different prespective on that. If we talk about Ireland it's a much developed country with infrastructure of football and other sports already there. But if we see country like Afghanistan or alike there is hardly any infrastructure there. Such factors must also be kept in mind while distributing funds to associate teams.

I don't agree with this argument. In that case Afghanistan should be provided with a smaller fund, as the cost of living is way below what it is in Ireland. And I don't understand what does it mean to have infrastructure in football and rugby. We are talking about cricket here. Are you going to deny them the funds, giving the excuse of a few existing football stadiums? OK.. leave aside Ireland. What about countries like Nepal, Papua New Guinea and Namibia? These are also poor countries like Afghanistan. So why should there be any special treatment just for Afghanistan?

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Well this is already huge and with two more teams in the IPL I think it will not become more intersting again as mor players from around the world can participate and with 10 teams now tournament will be much more longer and with more matches also means more income for BCCI, and I really hope this is used for thr betterment of indian cricket

So two more teams in IPL means more matches, this will disturb the schedule of international cricket as whole world is playing IPL. Recently we heard that main reason of Indian cricket team bad performance in T20 WC is too much cricket in the form of IPL. BCCI is preferring money over enhancing the performance of Indian cricket team.

Too much cricket can be a reason but none of the players wants to miss IPL and neither does BCCI. Two more teams mean more chances for new and upcoming talent and $2 billion earning for BCCI. In the recent T20 with the NZ the team has performed exceptionally well under the new captain, which also proves that the leadership in the WC was not so competent.

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Quote from: HUSTLER on November 19, 2021, 11:03:59 AM

Well this is already huge and with two more teams in the IPL I think it will not become more intersting again as mor players from around the world can participate and with 10 teams now tournament will be much more longer and with more matches also means more income for BCCI, and I really hope this is used for thr betterment of indian cricket

So two more teams in IPL means more matches, this will disturb the schedule of international cricket as whole world is playing IPL. Recently we heard that main reason of Indian cricket team bad performance in T20 WC is too much cricket in the form of IPL. BCCI is preferring money over enhancing the performance of Indian cricket team.

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@Sithara007 I believe that there won’t be any major changes in the revenue structure, because we’re coming out of pandemic year’s, and I’m pretty sure that the big 3 won’t be keen to take any pay cut. @galambo you’re absolutely correct the big 3 are bound to become richer, and I doubt that other teams will object to it because they won’t be keen to lose revenues coming from IPL.

The BCCI just received $2 billion or so (almost equal to the 8 year budget of the ICC) from auctioning two franchises. I guess now they can agree to an equal share of the ICC revenues. What difference does $15 million per year in additional funds will make for them? On the other hand, if this amount is distributed among 15 associate sides, then we will have cricket as a truly global sport in some years from now. IMO, all the full members should be receiving equal amounts from the ICC. That is not the case now, since the BCCI receive $50 million per year and Ireland receive $6 million.

$2 billion is a huge amount but most of it will be used to further strengthen the infrastructure base of Indian cricket. I am sure not much will be spent but they will keep that amount for future development. They will never leave that $15 million, they were not happy in the first instance of getting that amount as they contribute a lot to ICC financial kitty.

^ I'm sure whatever happens it won't defect the relation of ICC and BCCI too much. Because ultimately the money will be balanced between ICC and BCCI regardless of the amount. But I am sure that India will make videos of that money and thus we will see a far stronger Indian squad in the future.

Well this is already huge and with two more teams in the IPL I think it will not become more intersting again as mor players from around the world can participate and with 10 teams now tournament will be much more longer and with more matches also means more income for BCCI, and I really hope this is used for thr betterment of indian cricket

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on November 19, 2021, 01:52:58 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on November 18, 2021, 10:29:15 PM

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@Sithara007 I believe that there won’t be any major changes in the revenue structure, because we’re coming out of pandemic year’s, and I’m pretty sure that the big 3 won’t be keen to take any pay cut. @galambo you’re absolutely correct the big 3 are bound to become richer, and I doubt that other teams will object to it because they won’t be keen to lose revenues coming from IPL.

The BCCI just received $2 billion or so (almost equal to the 8 year budget of the ICC) from auctioning two franchises. I guess now they can agree to an equal share of the ICC revenues. What difference does $15 million per year in additional funds will make for them? On the other hand, if this amount is distributed among 15 associate sides, then we will have cricket as a truly global sport in some years from now. IMO, all the full members should be receiving equal amounts from the ICC. That is not the case now, since the BCCI receive $50 million per year and Ireland receive $6 million.

$2 billion is a huge amount but most of it will be used to further strengthen the infrastructure base of Indian cricket. I am sure not much will be spent but they will keep that amount for future development. They will never leave that $15 million, they were not happy in the first instance of getting that amount as they contribute a lot to ICC financial kitty.

^ I'm sure whatever happens it won't defect the relation of ICC and BCCI too much. Because ultimately the money will be balanced between ICC and BCCI regardless of the amount. But I am sure that India will make videos of that money and thus we will see a far stronger Indian squad in the future.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 18, 2021, 10:29:15 PM

The BCCI just received $2 billion or so (almost equal to the 8 year budget of the ICC) from auctioning two franchises. I guess now they can agree to an equal share of the ICC revenues. What difference does $15 million per year in additional funds will make for them? On the other hand, if this amount is distributed among 15 associate sides, then we will have cricket as a truly global sport in some years from now. IMO, all the full members should be receiving equal amounts from the ICC. That is not the case now, since the BCCI receive $50 million per year and Ireland receive $6 million.

I have a different prespective on that. If we talk about Ireland it's a much developed country with infrastructure of football and other sports already there. But if we see country like Afghanistan or alike there is hardly any infrastructure there. Such factors must also be kept in mind while distributing funds to associate teams.

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Quote from: Theones on November 18, 2021, 12:16:39 PM

Quote from: kro55 on November 17, 2021, 11:33:32 AM

In Asia, except for India, I think most countries' economies are struggling and they have bigger problems to solve and that's why cricket comes later in their mind. And also the politics in the cricket board has big effects on the team. Because I have seen in Bangladesh domestic cricket that the team which has more powerful owner wins against the team having low budget. And it causes a big mental effect on the players as they know that there is no point playing this game because they are going to lose.

Its not only the case with cricket but in every economically struggling country sports are downgrade in terms of priorities. So its nothing new that in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri lanka cricket is not getting due attention of authorities and politics have major influence over the game. Cricket teams of Sri lanka and Bangladesh need quick repair else they may lose there test status.

Your point is good but still in Pakistan we have some very good talent, and they are coming out despite many internal and external issues and many players done outstanding performance even recently very long time they are completely out of home with terror attacks but still cricket is having some big impact here.

In Bangladesh and Sri Lanka case they are serious losing cricket attraction because of very poor management and talent hunt programs which are very important Sri Lanka also done good, but recently they are also having very serious issues on and off the field which are hurting them hopefully they will come out from them.

But, in case of Bangladesh their system is really poor and in last 20 years they are completely failed to give any big surprise even they are doing down very quickly which is worst for their development because with this all they completely fail to attract economical strong investments which hurt them.

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Quote from: virasog on November 19, 2021, 02:30:09 AM

I have a breaking and a sort of sad news for the cricket lovers who loved to see AB de Villiers. He has announced his retirement from all cricket means that he will not be playing in IPL or any other match.

https://twitter.com/ESPNcricinfo/status/1461591610496413697

Yes I have also seen this news and it honestly made me sad but when I heard that everybody else returned from the international arena I thought he could play some more cricket for the South African cricket team. But he's a legend of this game and will be remembered for a long time. Thank you Mr 360.

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Quote from: virasog on November 19, 2021, 02:30:09 AM

I have a breaking and a sort of sad news for the cricket lovers who loved to see AB de Villiers. He has announced his retirement from all cricket means that he will not be playing in IPL or any other match.

https://twitter.com/ESPNcricinfo/status/1461591610496413697

When ab devillers plays the whole match becomes highlights. Some players will never be forgotten in the history of cricket and Abraham Benjamin de Villiers is one of them. There are 3 types of batsmen, Right hander, Left hander and AB De Villiers

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I have a breaking and a sort of sad news for the cricket lovers who loved to see AB de Villiers. He has announced his retirement from all cricket means that he will not be playing in IPL or any other match.

https://twitter.com/ESPNcricinfo/status/1461591610496413697

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 18, 2021, 10:29:15 PM

Quote from: Juggy777 on November 18, 2021, 02:19:50 AM

@Sithara007 I believe that there won’t be any major changes in the revenue structure, because we’re coming out of pandemic year’s, and I’m pretty sure that the big 3 won’t be keen to take any pay cut. @galambo you’re absolutely correct the big 3 are bound to become richer, and I doubt that other teams will object to it because they won’t be keen to lose revenues coming from IPL.

The BCCI just received $2 billion or so (almost equal to the 8 year budget of the ICC) from auctioning two franchises. I guess now they can agree to an equal share of the ICC revenues. What difference does $15 million per year in additional funds will make for them? On the other hand, if this amount is distributed among 15 associate sides, then we will have cricket as a truly global sport in some years from now. IMO, all the full members should be receiving equal amounts from the ICC. That is not the case now, since the BCCI receive $50 million per year and Ireland receive $6 million.

$2 billion is a huge amount but most of it will be used to further strengthen the infrastructure base of Indian cricket. I am sure not much will be spent but they will keep that amount for future development. They will never leave that $15 million, they were not happy in the first instance of getting that amount as they contribute a lot to ICC financial kitty.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on November 18, 2021, 02:19:50 AM

@Sithara007 I believe that there won’t be any major changes in the revenue structure, because we’re coming out of pandemic year’s, and I’m pretty sure that the big 3 won’t be keen to take any pay cut. @galambo you’re absolutely correct the big 3 are bound to become richer, and I doubt that other teams will object to it because they won’t be keen to lose revenues coming from IPL.

The BCCI just received $2 billion or so (almost equal to the 8 year budget of the ICC) from auctioning two franchises. I guess now they can agree to an equal share of the ICC revenues. What difference does $15 million per year in additional funds will make for them? On the other hand, if this amount is distributed among 15 associate sides, then we will have cricket as a truly global sport in some years from now. IMO, all the full members should be receiving equal amounts from the ICC. That is not the case now, since the BCCI receive $50 million per year and Ireland receive $6 million.

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Bangladesh cricket team has lots of problem not just that absence of wrist spinner. Despite having so much craze of cricket, Bangladesh failed to impress cricket with its performance in all formats. Even after 20 years of getting test status there win against a major team is still considered as an upset. I am not expecting much from Bangladesh in current T20 and Test series against Pakistan.

^ Because the problem lies in affecting every aspect of Bangladesh cricket. When the people in power are corrupt, The team cannot prosper. Have you ever wondered why Soumya Sarkar is still on the team? Yes, I will let you guys find that out and I am not even talking about Muhammad Mithun.

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Quote from: kro55 on November 17, 2021, 11:33:32 AM

In Asia, except for India, I think most countries' economies are struggling and they have bigger problems to solve and that's why cricket comes later in their mind. And also the politics in the cricket board has big effects on the team. Because I have seen in Bangladesh domestic cricket that the team which has more powerful owner wins against the team having low budget. And it causes a big mental effect on the players as they know that there is no point playing this game because they are going to lose.

Its not only the case with cricket but in every economically struggling country sports are downgrade in terms of priorities. So its nothing new that in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri lanka cricket is not getting due attention of authorities and politics have major influence over the game. Cricket teams of Sri lanka and Bangladesh need quick repair else they may lose there test status.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on November 17, 2021, 02:12:06 AM

^ I think the main problem of Bangladesh is not having any wrist spinner. Because anyone or any finger spinner can do good in spinning tracks but on flat surfaces, finger spinners are kind of useless because they don't often have too many variations like that is spinners. Bangladesh needs to get some wrist spinners in their team if they want to do good in bigger stages and especially in T20.

Bangladesh cricket team has lots of problem not just that absence of wrist spinner. Despite having so much craze of cricket, Bangladesh failed to impress cricket with its performance in all formats. Even after 20 years of getting test status there win against a major team is still considered as an upset. I am not expecting much from Bangladesh in current T20 and Test series against Pakistan.

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Quote from: galambo on November 17, 2021, 11:18:30 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on November 17, 2021, 09:50:12 PM

I agree that the ICC fund distribution is not being done in a fair manner. It is being done in a way to make rich boards richer and poor boards poorer. For the 2015-23 cycle, the BCCI (richest board in the world) will receive almost 5 times the funds when compared to the poorest boards like Ireland and Afghanistan. But it is till an improvement. During the Pawar/Srinivasan era, the BCCI used to receive 50 times the funds when compared to Cricket Ireland. They are yet to decide on the distribution model for 2024-32, but I hope that it will be done in an unbiased manner.

India is major contributor for ICC funds and major beneficiary also. ICC matters are mostly decided by Big3 boards. Now due to IPL, BCCI has more control over small boards and ICC. As far as 2024-32 distribution model is concerned I don't think it will different from 2015-23 model. Rich boards will become more rich.

@Sithara007 I believe that there won’t be any major changes in the revenue structure, because we’re coming out of pandemic year’s, and I’m pretty sure that the big 3 won’t be keen to take any pay cut. @galambo you’re absolutely correct the big 3 are bound to become richer, and I doubt that other teams will object to it because they won’t be keen to lose revenues coming from IPL.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 17, 2021, 09:50:12 PM

I agree that the ICC fund distribution is not being done in a fair manner. It is being done in a way to make rich boards richer and poor boards poorer. For the 2015-23 cycle, the BCCI (richest board in the world) will receive almost 5 times the funds when compared to the poorest boards like Ireland and Afghanistan. But it is till an improvement. During the Pawar/Srinivasan era, the BCCI used to receive 50 times the funds when compared to Cricket Ireland. They are yet to decide on the distribution model for 2024-32, but I hope that it will be done in an unbiased manner.

India is major contributor for ICC funds and major beneficiary also. ICC matters are mostly decided by Big3 boards. Now due to IPL, BCCI has more control over small boards and ICC. As far as 2024-32 distribution model is concerned I don't think it will different from 2015-23 model. Rich boards will become more rich.

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Quote from: galambo on November 17, 2021, 10:55:47 AM

That may be one reason why Bangladesh and Sri lanka teams are down and out these days. But we will not see any support from big 3 for such small boards. PCB for instance, is undergoing huge financial crisis but recently NZ and ECB cancelled there tours despite knowing this financial crisis. Small boards have to do themselves to uplift there teams, don't expect anything from ICC or from big 3.

I agree that the ICC fund distribution is not being done in a fair manner. It is being done in a way to make rich boards richer and poor boards poorer. For the 2015-23 cycle, the BCCI (richest board in the world) will receive almost 5 times the funds when compared to the poorest boards like Ireland and Afghanistan. But it is till an improvement. During the Pawar/Srinivasan era, the BCCI used to receive 50 times the funds when compared to Cricket Ireland. They are yet to decide on the distribution model for 2024-32, but I hope that it will be done in an unbiased manner.

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