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Quote from: galambo on November 09, 2021, 12:58:25 PM

There is another big news for Pakistan Cricket that Australia confirmed its tour to Pakistan after 24 years in Mar 2021. Aussie tour to end 24-year Pakistan absence. Australia will play 3 tests, 3 ODIs and 1 T20I. Its Australia first tour since 1998. Lets see whether Australia comes to Pakistan or not.

What is wrong with these guys? So out of a total of 19 playing days, 15 days will be spent on test format, and the most popular format gets just one day. The mentality of the cricket boards is still stuck in the 1980s. What people want now is more T20 and ODI matches and not useless test matches. I would have limited the number of test matches to 1 and increased the number of ODIs and T20Is to 5 each. It doesn't make any sense at all, either from a financial perspective, or from a fan viewpoint.

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There is another big news for Pakistan Cricket that Australia confirmed its tour to Pakistan after 24 years in Mar 2021. Aussie tour to end 24-year Pakistan absence. Australia will play 3 tests, 3 ODIs and 1 T20I. Its Australia first tour since 1998. Lets see whether Australia comes to Pakistan or not.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on November 09, 2021, 02:11:42 AM

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In women's cricket, Pakistan is still far behind. They have lost by 45 runs against West Indies. The West Indies team cannot perform well on a regular basis. The West Indies lost the series 4-1 against South Africa. Now they are playing well enough against Pakistan. The previous series against Pakistan was won by West Indies 3-2. My guess is that West Indies will win this series 3-2 again.

@kro55 I believe in time Pakistan’s women team too will perform well, because no one expected their male counterparts to do so well in the current tournament and yet they performed so well, hence let’s not underestimate this Pakistan’s women team. Also WI women team does have the psychological advantage going in the second ODI, however if they play with over confidence then I feel they’ll be beaten by the Pakistan team.

I am not underestimating the Pakistan team. And I would be happy if they can beat the West Indies in this series. However, Pakistan has not won any series this year. Pakistan lost to South Africa. However, Pakistan's batsmen need to bat more responsibly if they want to beat the West Indies. Let's see how Pakistan performs in the upcoming matches.

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Quote from: kro55 on November 09, 2021, 01:07:25 AM

In women's cricket, Pakistan is still far behind. They have lost by 45 runs against West Indies. The West Indies team cannot perform well on a regular basis. The West Indies lost the series 4-1 against South Africa. Now they are playing well enough against Pakistan. The previous series against Pakistan was won by West Indies 3-2. My guess is that West Indies will win this series 3-2 again.

@kro55 I believe in time Pakistan’s women team too will perform well, because no one expected their male counterparts to do so well in the current tournament and yet they performed so well, hence let’s not underestimate this Pakistan’s women team. Also WI women team does have the psychological advantage going in the second ODI, however if they play with over confidence then I feel they’ll be beaten by the Pakistan team.

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In women's cricket, Pakistan is still far behind. They have lost by 45 runs against West Indies. The West Indies team cannot perform well on a regular basis. The West Indies lost the series 4-1 against South Africa. Now they are playing well enough against Pakistan. The previous series against Pakistan was won by West Indies 3-2. My guess is that West Indies will win this series 3-2 again.

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Quote from: Maidak on November 08, 2021, 09:10:43 AM

The WI women's team won by 45 runs. West Indies opener Deandra Dottin's remarkable 132-run innings helped West Indies collect a huge 253 runs. If any Pakistani batsman could play a big innings, then maybe Pakistan could have won the match. The West Indies team is strong enough. If they want to win against them, Pakistan batsmen will have to play better in the upcoming matches.

Amazing innings by Deandra Dottin and West Indies won the match by 45 runs. In women's cricket, totals in excess of 250 are rare. And West Indies managed to achieve this, despite the fact that they were playing in Asia. Anam Amin did well to pickup 5 wickets for Pakistan, but the remaining bowlers were not up to the mark. BTW, any chance that either the PCB or the WICB may come up with a franchise T20 league for women? The PCB can go for WPSL and the WICB can go for WCPL. But I am not sure, since the financial condition is not great for both the teams.

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Quote from: Maidak on November 08, 2021, 09:10:43 AM

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The first ODI match of West Indies women's vs Pakistan women's team is being played in Karachi today. West Indies gave Pakistan a target of 254 runs. This collection is enough to defeat Pakistan. Pakistan scored 176 runs in 43 overs and lost 6 wickets. Pakistan needs 78 runs from 42 balls. They will not be able to win this match.

The WI women's team won by 45 runs. West Indies opener Deandra Dottin's remarkable 132-run innings helped West Indies collect a huge 253 runs. If any Pakistani batsman could play a big innings, then maybe Pakistan could have won the match. The West Indies team is strong enough. If they want to win against them, Pakistan batsmen will have to play better in the upcoming matches.

Pakistani women are good but still a very long way to go for them because facing some serious domestic issues not giving them any better opportunity for having better in field these ladies facing many unknown problems just few days back a girl injured, and surprisingly no board person was available for his medical treatment in hospital but still doing very good hopefully mind set will change, and these women could have some better respect and facilities from board for having very good game against quality teams.
About today match Anam done good job with 5/35 and then in batting few women play good innings but still need some good experience because two experienced women were not available like Sana Mir and Dar both have good experience in this format.

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Quote from: minairia3 on November 08, 2021, 06:58:05 AM

The first ODI match of West Indies women's vs Pakistan women's team is being played in Karachi today. West Indies gave Pakistan a target of 254 runs. This collection is enough to defeat Pakistan. Pakistan scored 176 runs in 43 overs and lost 6 wickets. Pakistan needs 78 runs from 42 balls. They will not be able to win this match.

The WI women's team won by 45 runs. West Indies opener Deandra Dottin's remarkable 132-run innings helped West Indies collect a huge 253 runs. If any Pakistani batsman could play a big innings, then maybe Pakistan could have won the match. The West Indies team is strong enough. If they want to win against them, Pakistan batsmen will have to play better in the upcoming matches.

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The first ODI match of West Indies women's vs Pakistan women's team is being played in Karachi today. West Indies gave Pakistan a target of 254 runs. This collection is enough to defeat Pakistan. Pakistan scored 176 runs in 43 overs and lost 6 wickets. Pakistan needs 78 runs from 42 balls. They will not be able to win this match.

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Quote from: galambo on November 05, 2021, 01:33:03 AM

Meanwhile there is good news for PCB and cricket fans in Pakistan as Windes are touring Pakistan from 13 Dec to 22 Dec 2021. WI to tour Pakistan in December for three T20Is and ODIs. I don't think this tour will have any impact on big 3 and CNZ, they will continue to boycott touring Pakistan on political and security grounds. WI, SL, Bangladesh and Zim in the past have toured Pakistan.

Why just 3 matches each? There are no test matches scheduled, so they could have gone for 5 ODIs and 5 T20Is. Anyway, this is a very positive decision from the WICB. If they want, then they could easily skip this tour like the big-4 countries. Financially, it doesn't make much sense for WICB to approve the Pakistan tour. They earn a lot more from the IPL foreigner release fee. All that said, the ICC needs to come up with a strong opinion on this. Either they should make it clear that Pakistan is not safe for international teams, or they should ask the foreign teams to honor their commitments.

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Quote from: galambo on November 05, 2021, 01:33:03 AM

Meanwhile there is good news for PCB and cricket fans in Pakistan as Windes are touring Pakistan from 13 Dec to 22 Dec 2021. WI to tour Pakistan in December for three T20Is and ODIs. I don't think this tour will have any impact on big 3 and CNZ, they will continue to boycott touring Pakistan on political and security grounds. WI, SL, Bangladesh and Zim in the past have toured Pakistan.

This is good news for Pakistani fans but still, there is no guarantee that it will happen, looking at the past events. At the moment it is better to enjoy the present world cup. Pakistan team is playing very good in this world cup and they are already in the semifinals. I never thought that they will stick so long in the world cup but good to see they have been consistent this time in their performance.

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Quote from: galambo on November 05, 2021, 01:33:03 AM

Meanwhile there is good news for PCB and cricket fans in Pakistan as Windes are touring Pakistan from 13 Dec to 22 Dec 2021. WI to tour Pakistan in December for three T20Is and ODIs. I don't think this tour will have any impact on big 3 and CNZ, they will continue to boycott touring Pakistan on political and security grounds. WI, SL, Bangladesh and Zim in the past have toured Pakistan.

Now here Pakistan peoples don't take these as good news because anything can happen in this period so just keep calm and enjoy current World Cup which is going to end in next few days then we have some exciting bilateral series between Bangladesh vs Pakistan and India vs New Zealand and biggest cricket rivalry is also going to happen in December both teams doing their stuff for this I am favouring Australia because they can win test series English batsmen have no quality just Root can't give them all in every inning.

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Meanwhile there is good news for PCB and cricket fans in Pakistan as Windes are touring Pakistan from 13 Dec to 22 Dec 2021. WI to tour Pakistan in December for three T20Is and ODIs. I don't think this tour will have any impact on big 3 and CNZ, they will continue to boycott touring Pakistan on political and security grounds. WI, SL, Bangladesh and Zim in the past have toured Pakistan.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 04, 2021, 04:17:53 AM

In a country where majority of folks obsessed with a fair skin and struggling with ridiculous amount of challenges. Some Brown coolies thought that bending the knee would be a excellent idea so that they can earn some brownie points but when its comes to their own country countless societal fuckups or neighboring countries genocidal acts, they start behaving like ostrich and become some sort of spineless professionals.

Completely agreed with this. Recently there were attacks against religious minorities within India (Kashmir) and in neighboring countries (Pakistan, Bangladesh). The Indian players refused to issue any statement to condemn these acts. However they went ballistic over some 2-3 years old incident, in which a black suspect died at the hands of a white police officer in the United States. They should first take care of their issues back home before going hyperactive over some incident that happened in a foreign nation.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 04, 2021, 04:17:53 AM

In a country where majority of folks obsessed with a fair skin and struggling with ridiculous amount of challenges. Some Brown coolies thought that bending the knee would be a excellent idea so that they can earn some brownie points but when its comes to their own country countless societal fuckups or neighboring countries genocidal acts, they start behaving like ostrich and become some sort of spineless professionals.

I am not sure what you are referring here or implying, anyone looking at this post would say it is a racist comment. I am not with the showcase of propaganda someone thought would be nice to make a difference as these kind of gestures will not make any difference. This started in the US with their Football and Baseball players taking a knee against police brutality against black community and now we have in cricket against racism.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on November 04, 2021, 12:11:06 PM

I believe taking the knee is causing more issues than solving the racism problem, because each time someone refuses the knee it’s taken in the wrong sense. Also ICC could organise some ad campaigns to spread awareness, and stop the knee bending because its dividing the cricket world and neither side is wrong (those taking the knee, and those refusing to take).

A better thing is ICC sit with all boards and having some soft discussion after this they can oblige things in better way because few taking knees and few refusing is not good they must do one decision about this which could be more good for all and as you suggested they can bring few ads for this.

As of now, some other issues also having more attention than knee taking which need some good effort, but sadly we have no maturity from ICC about this all. In event, we have few cases which bring serious confusion but then settled, it's also not good thing for players and management.

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Quote from: perfect999 on November 04, 2021, 01:59:11 AM

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It was not mandatory. In case of India, Virat Kohli asked the BCCI management for permission to knee for BLM, which was granted by the president Sourav Ganguly. It has nothing to do with the ICC directives. During yesterday's match between Namibia and Afghanistan, both the teams refused to knee. Namibian players held up their hands in support, while Afghanistan did the right thing by completely ignoring it. I still don't understand what Asian teams have to do with the BLM movement. Afghanistan and Pakistan are doing the right thing by standing against this drama.

This issue was very much settled but it came to cricket in this WC. Just like sometimes cricket promoting awareness on breast cancer. Don't worry this moment won't pop up in other icc tournaments. Even if it pops up I don't see any harm in kneeling down for BLM.

Surely this is not going to have any serious impact in ICC events in future because it's all about your personal feelings. I really appreciate Afghanistan as they completely ignore this because they feel they have nothing with this all, and it's true. They are already facing some other troubles which are more important for them in future instead of going down on knee for BLM.

Few peoples talking about Aids and Cancer programs were also obliged by ICC, so this is also needed some intention, but I have been feeling these are completely different from this drama which is happening in name of BLM because it's all about just politics nothing else. So, hopefully this all will be settled by better understanding between all parties.

I believe taking the knee is causing more issues than solving the racism problem, because each time someone refuses the knee it’s taken in the wrong sense. Also ICC could organise some ad campaigns to spread awareness, and stop the knee bending because its dividing the cricket world and neither side is wrong (those taking the knee, and those refusing to take).

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In a country where majority of folks obsessed with a fair skin and struggling with ridiculous amount of challenges. Some Brown coolies thought that bending the knee would be a excellent idea so that they can earn some brownie points but when its comes to their own country countless societal fuckups or neighboring countries genocidal acts, they start behaving like ostrich and become some sort of spineless professionals.

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Quote from: galambo on November 03, 2021, 03:11:59 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 31, 2021, 09:35:06 PM

It was not mandatory. In case of India, Virat Kohli asked the BCCI management for permission to knee for BLM, which was granted by the president Sourav Ganguly. It has nothing to do with the ICC directives. During yesterday's match between Namibia and Afghanistan, both the teams refused to knee. Namibian players held up their hands in support, while Afghanistan did the right thing by completely ignoring it. I still don't understand what Asian teams have to do with the BLM movement. Afghanistan and Pakistan are doing the right thing by standing against this drama.

This issue was very much settled but it came to cricket in this WC. Just like sometimes cricket promoting awareness on breast cancer. Don't worry this moment won't pop up in other icc tournaments. Even if it pops up I don't see any harm in kneeling down for BLM.

Surely this is not going to have any serious impact in ICC events in future because it's all about your personal feelings. I really appreciate Afghanistan as they completely ignore this because they feel they have nothing with this all, and it's true. They are already facing some other troubles which are more important for them in future instead of going down on knee for BLM.

Few peoples talking about Aids and Cancer programs were also obliged by ICC, so this is also needed some intention, but I have been feeling these are completely different from this drama which is happening in name of BLM because it's all about just politics nothing else. So, hopefully this all will be settled by better understanding between all parties.

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Quote from: galambo on November 03, 2021, 03:11:59 PM

This issue was very much settled but it came to cricket in this WC. Just like sometimes cricket promoting awareness on breast cancer. Don't worry this moment won't pop up in other icc tournaments. Even if it pops up I don't see any harm in kneeling down for BLM.

It should be left to the players, and no one should be forced in to doing it. Here we have Quinton de Kock being forced to apologize by the SACB, after he refused to kneel. Now this is not something that you would associate awareness with. And the idea of Indian team kneeling down for the BLM is the biggest joke. BLM is essentially a movement started by blacks in the US against police brutality and I don't understand what India has to do with all that. I am glad that the other Asian teams chose not to endorse this moonbattery.

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