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sr. member
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November 10, 2013, 04:53:17 PM
Update 11/9/2013: TerraHash is still in business, we have not filed for bankruptcy yet. The refund from Yifu was cashed immediately back then, we did not make any profits from the recent surge in BTC prices. Again, we are still committed to provide as much refund as possible. I will update again in a couple days on how we are going to proceed with that.

Holy.  . .. SHIT . . .your still in "BUSINESS" .  .you aren't in business friend.  . . your in the midst of a death throw.  . . your the last in line of a centipede chain. .. your the retarded child in Kentucky falling down a well (Violent Femmes reference)...  you sir are anything but "still in business" . .. you may qualify for "still breathing", but that is surprising considering the shark pool you shit yourself in (ie these peeps are pissed off) . . dude sell everything you have and grovel

I have "no skin in this game", but you pissed a lot of people off with resources they appear willing to burn to crush you into the dust you came from.  Are you retarded? You didn't file bankruptcy.  If there was ever a moment in time to do so, it is now.  not bankrupt, but you can't give people their money back? your either a liar or . .. well fuck I can't even come up with wtf ever else it would be.  you have to bankrupt. . .or. ..well I'll let the others decide the rest.  I hope to dear sweet mother of all gods (read as money) that you are an LLC.



just my opinion, not fact, but you sir deserve a Darwin award




Hello Endlessa!

Howya been?

I am in 100% agreement with and have even gone so far as to elaborate on the matter here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unsolicited-but-nevertheless-very-good-advice-to-terrahash-and-its-principals-329997

Hope things are going well for you and keep up the good work!

My $.02.

Wink


Your link is interesting but misleading. Favored treatment is......

Paying back loans to family and friends and ignoring other creditors. Again, the bankruptcy court will look at your transactions for a period of time before you file. You cannot favor one or more creditors over others.  

http://www.terradolaw.com/chapter-7-bankruptcy.html


In this case, no customer received favorable treatment by receiving a refund by TH over anyone else.  WE are also not considered Creditors. The only ones receiving refunds from TH were forced refunds through buyer protection from Paypal and  or a Credit card.  


Sorry but you are incorrect in your assessment.

Any and ALL transactions can be reversed by the Court Trustee and the longer the situation hangs on the edge, the more likely such reversals become.

Preferential Treatment covers a variety of ills and it is most likely that any and ALL refunds would not only be considered preferential treatment but actions taken in anticipation of the filing of bankruptcy which would be voided and reversed byt the court.

US bankruptcy laws differ widely from those in the UK or anywhere else for that matter.

I have seen just such actions in a case recently filed by a friend who had sold off a collection of vintage cars prior to filing.

The Court Trustee went out and retrieved each and every of those cars, leaving the purchasers high and dry with no recourse.

The cars were subsequently sold at a bankruptcy auction, with the proceeds going into thepool of  funds to repay creditiors.

I bought one of those cars from the Court for much less than the original seller had wanted.

This will happen with Terrahash if they do not move quickly and may happen anyway.

Since Terrahash was essentially dealing in unregistered securities there is no telling exactly how the Court will handle the matter but anyone who received a refund in the 90 days preceeding the filing will have that refund in jeopardy.  Remember, the Court can go back as far as two years in reversing transactions and does so on a regular basis.

The court can and probably will order the surrender of any cryptocurrency held by Terrahash as well.

My $.02.

Sad


Not according to my credit card company, who I just called. I did not receive the merchandise. I did not get a refund.  I filed a claim for the money. TH did not respond. I am not liable for the money.

When a merchant decides to use Paypal or Visa they sign a legal  contract of the terms. I'm sure their lawyers know enough to protect consumers from this type of thing.   
legendary
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November 10, 2013, 04:41:39 PM
...

The court can and probably will order the surrender of any cryptocurrency held by Terrahash as well.

My $.02.

Sad
And that would result in ...
legendary
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November 10, 2013, 04:11:42 PM
I love this thread!

Hurr hurr Yifu fucks everyone over and most of you suddenly realise that you made a mistake ordering from Terra. Then like the greedy sub human scum that you all are you turn on him yelling "scam thief", fucking bunch of dumb cunts.

The chip situation added to it no doubt.  But they never would have delevered on time with or without chips (that the orders on some were vouched for and disappeared).   It was mismanaged and a company of salesmen counting on others to make it work. 

Maybe a response means first lawsuit has shown up.
sr. member
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November 10, 2013, 03:48:55 PM
Update 11/9/2013: TerraHash is still in business, we have not filed for bankruptcy yet. The refund from Yifu was cashed immediately back then, we did not make any profits from the recent surge in BTC prices. Again, we are still committed to provide as much refund as possible. I will update again in a couple days on how we are going to proceed with that.

Holy.  . .. SHIT . . .your still in "BUSINESS" .  .you aren't in business friend.  . . your in the midst of a death throw.  . . your the last in line of a centipede chain. .. your the retarded child in Kentucky falling down a well (Violent Femmes reference)...  you sir are anything but "still in business" . .. you may qualify for "still breathing", but that is surprising considering the shark pool you shit yourself in (ie these peeps are pissed off) . . dude sell everything you have and grovel

I have "no skin in this game", but you pissed a lot of people off with resources they appear willing to burn to crush you into the dust you came from.  Are you retarded? You didn't file bankruptcy.  If there was ever a moment in time to do so, it is now.  not bankrupt, but you can't give people their money back? your either a liar or . .. well fuck I can't even come up with wtf ever else it would be.  you have to bankrupt. . .or. ..well I'll let the others decide the rest.  I hope to dear sweet mother of all gods (read as money) that you are an LLC.



just my opinion, not fact, but you sir deserve a Darwin award




Hello Endlessa!

Howya been?

I am in 100% agreement with and have even gone so far as to elaborate on the matter here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unsolicited-but-nevertheless-very-good-advice-to-terrahash-and-its-principals-329997

Hope things are going well for you and keep up the good work!

My $.02.

Wink


Your link is interesting but misleading. Favored treatment is......

Paying back loans to family and friends and ignoring other creditors. Again, the bankruptcy court will look at your transactions for a period of time before you file. You cannot favor one or more creditors over others.  

http://www.terradolaw.com/chapter-7-bankruptcy.html


In this case, no customer received favorable treatment by receiving a refund by TH over anyone else.  WE are also not considered Creditors. The only ones receiving refunds from TH were forced refunds through buyer protection from Paypal and  or a Credit card.  


Sorry but you are incorrect in your assessment.

Any and ALL transactions can be reversed by the Court Trustee and the longer the situation hangs on the edge, the more likely such reversals become.

Preferential Treatment covers a variety of ills and it is most likely that any and ALL refunds would not only be considered preferential treatment but actions taken in anticipation of the filing of bankruptcy which would be voided and reversed byt the court.

US bankruptcy laws differ widely from those in the UK or anywhere else for that matter.

I have seen just such actions in a case recently filed by a friend who had sold off a collection of vintage cars prior to filing.

The Court Trustee went out and retrieved each and every of those cars, leaving the purchasers high and dry with no recourse.

The cars were subsequently sold at a bankruptcy auction, with the proceeds going into thepool of  funds to repay creditiors.

I bought one of those cars from the Court for much less than the original seller had wanted.

This will happen with Terrahash if they do not move quickly and may happen anyway.

Since Terrahash was essentially dealing in unregistered securities there is no telling exactly how the Court will handle the matter but anyone who received a refund in the 90 days preceeding the filing will have that refund in jeopardy.  Remember, the Court can go back as far as two years in reversing transactions and does so on a regular basis.

The court can and probably will order the surrender of any cryptocurrency held by Terrahash as well.

My $.02.

Sad
hero member
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November 10, 2013, 03:45:24 PM
So a maxed out DX large cost 85 btc ($26k at todays price) for only 180gh?  Is that right?

Wow people really got taken for a ride.  Has everyone got at least half of their money back?  Mining is not a good business for the end user.
sr. member
Activity: 389
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November 10, 2013, 03:34:29 PM
Update 11/9/2013: TerraHash is still in business, we have not filed for bankruptcy yet. The refund from Yifu was cashed immediately back then, we did not make any profits from the recent surge in BTC prices. Again, we are still committed to provide as much refund as possible. I will update again in a couple days on how we are going to proceed with that.

Holy.  . .. SHIT . . .your still in "BUSINESS" .  .you aren't in business friend.  . . your in the midst of a death throw.  . . your the last in line of a centipede chain. .. your the retarded child in Kentucky falling down a well (Violent Femmes reference)...  you sir are anything but "still in business" . .. you may qualify for "still breathing", but that is surprising considering the shark pool you shit yourself in (ie these peeps are pissed off) . . dude sell everything you have and grovel

I have "no skin in this game", but you pissed a lot of people off with resources they appear willing to burn to crush you into the dust you came from.  Are you retarded? You didn't file bankruptcy.  If there was ever a moment in time to do so, it is now.  not bankrupt, but you can't give people their money back? your either a liar or . .. well fuck I can't even come up with wtf ever else it would be.  you have to bankrupt. . .or. ..well I'll let the others decide the rest.  I hope to dear sweet mother of all gods (read as money) that you are an LLC.



just my opinion, not fact, but you sir deserve a Darwin award




Hello Endlessa!

Howya been?

I am in 100% agreement with and have even gone so far as to elaborate on the matter here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unsolicited-but-nevertheless-very-good-advice-to-terrahash-and-its-principals-329997

Hope things are going well for you and keep up the good work!

My $.02.

Wink


Your link is interesting but misleading. Favored treatment is......

Paying back loans to family and friends and ignoring other creditors. Again, the bankruptcy court will look at your transactions for a period of time before you file. You cannot favor one or more creditors over others.  

http://www.terradolaw.com/chapter-7-bankruptcy.html


In this case, no customer received favorable treatment by receiving a refund by TH over anyone else.  WE are also not considered Creditors. The only ones receiving refunds from TH were forced refunds through buyer protection from Paypal and  or a Credit card.  
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
November 10, 2013, 09:18:43 AM
Update 11/9/2013: TerraHash is still in business, we have not filed for bankruptcy yet. The refund from Yifu was cashed immediately back then, we did not make any profits from the recent surge in BTC prices. Again, we are still committed to provide as much refund as possible. I will update again in a couple days on how we are going to proceed with that.

Holy.  . .. SHIT . . .your still in "BUSINESS" .  .you aren't in business friend.  . . your in the midst of a death throw.  . . your the last in line of a centipede chain. .. your the retarded child in Kentucky falling down a well (Violent Femmes reference)...  you sir are anything but "still in business" . .. you may qualify for "still breathing", but that is surprising considering the shark pool you shit yourself in (ie these peeps are pissed off) . . dude sell everything you have and grovel

I have "no skin in this game", but you pissed a lot of people off with resources they appear willing to burn to crush you into the dust you came from.  Are you retarded? You didn't file bankruptcy.  If there was ever a moment in time to do so, it is now.  not bankrupt, but you can't give people their money back? your either a liar or . .. well fuck I can't even come up with wtf ever else it would be.  you have to bankrupt. . .or. ..well I'll let the others decide the rest.  I hope to dear sweet mother of all gods (read as money) that you are an LLC.



just my opinion, not fact, but you sir deserve a Darwin award

Hello Endlessa!

Howya been?

I am in 100% agreement with and have even gone so far as to elaborate on the matter here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unsolicited-but-nevertheless-very-good-advice-to-terrahash-and-its-principals-329997

Hope things are going well for you and keep up the good work!

My $.02.

Wink
sr. member
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November 10, 2013, 08:38:21 AM
When the things don't work out as it should, that is not called scam. And once again if the man has a good intentions, there's no way that in the middle of everything will break bad and try to run. No, they will try to correct the things.  Roll Eyes
gbx
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November 10, 2013, 08:30:08 AM
Update 11/9/2013: TerraHash is still in business, we have not filed for bankruptcy yet. The refund from Yifu was cashed immediately back then, we did not make any profits from the recent surge in BTC prices. Again, we are still committed to provide as much refund as possible. I will update again in a couple days on how we are going to proceed with that.

You either made a loss or a profit when you converted it to fiat, period.

I'm going to guess he's waiting for the PayPal fallout to finish before he starts refunding the rest of the folks.  They're the 800lb gorilla with more legal power and resources than Amir.

Soon, it will all go to PayPal unless Amir corrects the situation quickly with PayPal and gets everyone a refund of 100 percent.

No one is buying that you spent 50 percent of the funds electronic components and a few prototype enclosures.  I also don't believe that you converted the BTC to fiat when you received it from Yifu.

Bravo to Brandon Gordon for filing a lawsuit!  These types of scams need to stop in the community; we're all a bit tired of the drama and companies hanging their shingle out willing to risk customer funds.
sr. member
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November 10, 2013, 04:04:27 AM
Update 11/9/2013: TerraHash is still in business, we have not filed for bankruptcy yet. The refund from Yifu was cashed immediately back then, we did not make any profits from the recent surge in BTC prices. Again, we are still committed to provide as much refund as possible. I will update again in a couple days on how we are going to proceed with that.

Holy.  . .. SHIT . . .your still in "BUSINESS" .  .you aren't in business friend.  . . your in the midst of a death throw.  . . your the last in line of a centipede chain. .. your the retarded child in Kentucky falling down a well (Violent Femmes reference)...  you sir are anything but "still in business" . .. you may qualify for "still breathing", but that is surprising considering the shark pool you shit yourself in (ie these peeps are pissed off) . . dude sell everything you have and grovel

I have "no skin in this game", but you pissed a lot of people off with resources they appear willing to burn to crush you into the dust you came from.  Are you retarded? You didn't file bankruptcy.  If there was ever a moment in time to do so, it is now.  not bankrupt, but you can't give people their money back? your either a liar or . .. well fuck I can't even come up with wtf ever else it would be.  you have to bankrupt. . .or. ..well I'll let the others decide the rest.  I hope to dear sweet mother of all gods (read as money) that you are an LLC.



just my opinion, not fact, but you sir deserve a Darwin award
newbie
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November 09, 2013, 10:14:11 PM
And we let go of the office, because we are trying to conserve as much money as possible for the refunds, and the office was just a useless expense now. Nobody was sleeping in the office. when I brought my truck to move our stuff out of the office, I realized I had some useless clothes in the trunk. I just dumped them there to make space in the trunk.


Amir:
You have two new legal claims pending against you, besides the lawsuit for Fraud.  You told me multiple times that you refund 100% of my order.  
I made it perfectly clear to you that I'd take legal action against you if I didn't get my money back.  I will not settle for a 50% refund, period.  
See you in court.  
 

These 2 Terrashit motherfuckers start replying when someone post claims and lawsuits,

After more than a month and leaving people with nothing but a dissolving company last post. Piece of shits.



 
vip
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November 09, 2013, 09:42:36 PM
Here's a party suing Terrahash in Santa Clara County Superior Court for Fraud: 

http://www.sccaseinfo.org/pa6.asp?full_case_number=1-13-CV-254284&crumbs=Civil%20Index&crumbs=Party/Case%20Type%20Search&crumbs=Party/Case%20Type%20Results&crumbs=Cases%20Involving%20Amir%20Kahn

Amir Khan and Tarandeep Gill aka "Justin" are going to get blistered in court.   

 Cheesy

Terrahash Inc. is run by a hoaxer?

http://www.geekwire.com/2011/guy-users-dumb/

Quote
This is the guy who convinced everyone that IE users are dumb

August 4, 2011 at 11:31 am by Todd Bishop

His name is Tarandeep Gill. He’s a web developer and entrepreneur, a graduate of the Georgia Tech computer science program, and a resident of Vancouver, B.C.

sr. member
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November 09, 2013, 08:08:15 PM
Wink hehe, they have to accept me for who I am, and how I write. This is however not my problem Wink
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November 09, 2013, 07:53:37 PM
Update 11/9/2013: TerraHash is still in business, we have not filed for bankruptcy yet. The refund from Yifu was cashed immediately back then, we did not make any profits from the recent surge in BTC prices. Again, we are still committed to provide as much refund as possible. I will update again in a couple days on how we are going to proceed with that.

Yess!!


Welcome back! I knew he will spoke again! Smiley Smiley Smiley

You better correct your grammar or the English police will get ya. Smiley
sr. member
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November 09, 2013, 07:29:01 PM
Update 11/9/2013: TerraHash is still in business, we have not filed for bankruptcy yet. The refund from Yifu was cashed immediately back then, we did not make any profits from the recent surge in BTC prices. Again, we are still committed to provide as much refund as possible. I will update again in a couple days on how we are going to proceed with that.

Yess!!


Welcome back! I knew he will spoke again! Smiley Smiley Smiley
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November 09, 2013, 06:44:30 PM
And we let go of the office, because we are trying to conserve as much money as possible for the refunds, and the office was just a useless expense now. Nobody was sleeping in the office. when I brought my truck to move our stuff out of the office, I realized I had some useless clothes in the trunk. I just dumped them there to make space in the trunk.


Amir:
You have two new legal claims pending against you, besides the lawsuit for Fraud.  You told me multiple times that you refund 100% of my order.  
I made it perfectly clear to you that I'd take legal action against you if I didn't get my money back.  I will not settle for a 50% refund, period.  
See you in court.  
 
sr. member
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November 09, 2013, 05:27:46 PM
Update 11/9/2013: TerraHash is still in business, we have not filed for bankruptcy yet. The refund from Yifu was cashed immediately back then, we did not make any profits from the recent surge in BTC prices. Again, we are still committed to provide as much refund as possible. I will update again in a couple days on how we are going to proceed with that.

prove the doubters wrong amir and give us our money back soon!
posting in itself is appreciated; thanks. please keep this up.
legendary
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November 09, 2013, 05:24:40 PM
And we let go of the office, because we are trying to conserve as much money as possible for the refunds, and the office was just a useless expense now. Nobody was sleeping in the office. when I brought my truck to move our stuff out of the office, I realized I had some useless clothes in the trunk. I just dumped them there to make space in the trunk.

Lol somehow i bet salarys are still going out even during this time of conservation.  Did you sell parts or keeping to try for next adventure?( if any parts were ever bought in bulk).

What is your next employer going to be?  I sure hope they find this information about failed and mismanaged business.  Maybe you were mad about personal info being posted not wanting it to show up on google for your job search.
legendary
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November 09, 2013, 04:29:51 PM
Or was this cashing made privately by company selling coins to you and then the company paid the money you paid for coins back to you as salary.
legendary
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November 09, 2013, 04:27:52 PM
Update 11/9/2013: TerraHash is still in business, we have not filed for bankruptcy yet. The refund from Yifu was cashed immediately back then, we did not make any profits from the recent surge in BTC prices. Again, we are still committed to provide as much refund as possible. I will update again in a couple days on how we are going to proceed with that.
Quoted for future reference when bank account statements will show matching deposits from this alleged cashing.
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