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sr. member
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No power in the 'verse can stop me.
November 07, 2013, 06:02:14 PM
Great time to refund accounts paid in Bitcoin.
The price was based in USD, you can legally pay half-back in Bitcoin and those accounts are refunded in full.

Seize the day Terrahash.


This, this, and more of this!!  They can refund half our BTC and still will have made a boat load of money Tongue

Likelihood of it actually happening???  lolz
sr. member
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November 07, 2013, 05:47:17 PM
Great time to refund accounts paid in Bitcoin.
The price was based in USD, you can legally pay half-back in Bitcoin and those accounts are refunded in full.

Seize the day Terrahash.


Fucking this. I know they're not reading this thread but what they're doing is so effing illegal and wrong.


I bet they end up in the penitentiary. What else could eventually happen?
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November 07, 2013, 03:06:32 PM
Great time to refund accounts paid in Bitcoin.
The price was based in USD, you can legally pay half-back in Bitcoin and those accounts are refunded in full.

Seize the day Terrahash.


Fucking this. I know they're not reading this thread but what they're doing is so effing illegal and wrong.
newbie
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November 07, 2013, 01:08:32 PM
Great time to refund accounts paid in Bitcoin.
The price was based in USD, you can legally pay half-back in Bitcoin and those accounts are refunded in full.

Seize the day Terrahash.
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November 07, 2013, 12:26:27 PM
Any news to share with us?
Have Yifu refunded chip batches?
Are we waiting for something?
Have you reused/planning to reuse our parts in your mining enterprise?
Can you describe what is the purpose of the stash tracked (below) by fire5?
Do you have timeline of how and when refunds will be handled?

Thx.



Currently the mentioned amount of BTC3,471.86046069 in TH stash divided by 40.000 chips ordered equals to BTC0.086775 per chip.
Which should be available at hand for immediate refunds.

Which is BTC1.3884 per K16. Or $208.26 now.
Which is BTC5.5536 per K64. Or $833.04 now.

(Assuming current btc price ~$150).
And still there is a lot of parts for reuse or sell.

Why is TH not taking action and taking advantage of current exchange price?


Quick Update (2013-10-22):
Current Bitcoin Best Bid aquired from https://bitpay.com/bitcoin-exchange-rates is $181
Which is BTC1.3884 per K16. Or $250+ now.
Which is BTC5.5536 per K64. Or $1000+ now.

That means that from this point on TH have enough money to issue full refunds and still exit with a profit from the failure.
It also means that from this point forward withholding refunds equals to taking an additional unnecessary risk on consumers' money by TerraHash.

Quick Update (2013-11-07):
TerraHash is unavailable since 2013-09-30 and does not respond to any communication channels.
Current Bitcoin Best Bid aquired from https://bitpay.com/bitcoin-exchange-rates is $293
Which is BTC1.3884 per K16. Or $405+ now.
Which is BTC5.5536 per K64. Or $1625+ now.

So TerraHash could repay us 1.5 times over from chips refund alone.
sr. member
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November 07, 2013, 11:46:44 AM
So your life moto is be good, and suddenly you're go breaking bad ??

Even if its BTC, the people have respect and conscousness about, what they do to other people Smiley
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decentralizedhashing.com
November 07, 2013, 09:51:11 AM
Just because they started with good intentions doesn't mean that once they got over their head that they did everything they could to make it right.
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https://streamies.io/
November 07, 2013, 09:26:42 AM
Now that coin is over $300 each, I'm willing to take 3 coins per K64, you keep 2 coins or $610 for each K64 there is zero percent chance that it cost you $610 to make each board.
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November 07, 2013, 02:27:19 AM
It is called hope in human being ... Because good still exists, and Amir from start on, they have a good intentions, this is what You cannot denie, and no-one with good intentions just change the way into illegal. And if you think that everything was staged ... Well I personally don't. And no, you cannot change my opinion Wink

And if you do not posses hope, know that, you're creating the world you live in.

Its not called being human its called gambling with customers money.  And THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS.  They were shady, and it turns out its becuse they never had the capability to deliver the product. 

In the begining they might have thought they could do it, but they were salesmen and lacked many important things to be sucessfull.  Once they saw a sinking ship they did not try to fix it, but instead are getting salary until they are eventually forced to close up shop.

What kind of work is Amir doing now?  Or is he still milking salary off TH?
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November 06, 2013, 02:49:24 PM
How is it possible that any of you still dont think this is an outright scam?

Amir and Justin outright stole your money and did literally nothing for it!

Its totally a scam at this point until proven otherwise.
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November 06, 2013, 02:40:58 PM
Well, I just had an interesting discussion with my Chase Visa regarding something I was disputing that I bought last January.
It was a similar situation as TH of non delivery of a product.
The lady said that they have 118 days (maybe 120, it was hard to understand sometimes) to dispute transaction.
BUT!
Those days start from the day you are supposed to receive the item!
So in my case I bought in January of 2013
On August 8th I got a reply to my ticket saying the item will ship.
Dead silence since then.
She started count of 118 days from August 8th + 1 week for shipping.

So I was just issued a credit a few minutes ago without any problems.

Now I just wish I paid TH with a CC and not a wire.


sr. member
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November 06, 2013, 02:35:34 PM
It is called hope in human being ... Because good still exists, and Amir from start on, they have a good intentions, this is what You cannot denie, and no-one with good intentions just change the way into illegal. And if you think that everything was staged ... Well I personally don't. And no, you cannot change my opinion Wink

And if you do not posses hope, know that, you're creating the world you live in.
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♫ A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw ♫
November 06, 2013, 02:28:55 PM
How is it possible that any of you still dont think this is an outright scam?

Amir and Justin outright stole your money and did literally nothing for it!
sr. member
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November 06, 2013, 02:21:27 PM
I still have hope, they are gonna refund and they respond. However, Amir does look like honest guy and he also writes this in last comments. When they deal with his legal things, then it is time for BTC. I however have hope personally.  Smiley
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https://streamies.io/
November 06, 2013, 01:50:21 PM
For the love of god, how about this TH:  You got refunded 5 coins per K64 from Yifu.  You give us 3.5 coins (70%) and you keep 1.5 coins for all the parts that you paid already (you can then sell the parts for all I care and get even more money).  At today pricing that would make me out zero dollars on each K64, you can't tell me that at the old price of 900 for each K64 you had to buy $400 in parts on top of the cost of the chips.  
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November 06, 2013, 01:48:21 PM
The most fucked up part of this entire situation is that they are likely sitting on loads of BTC making thousands and thousands of dollars and yet they refuse to refund any of their customers.



I agree. Since Terrahash never actually produced or shipped a product, they likely made more money by failing then they would have made if they managed to stay in business and fulfill their orders.

They are forced to provide Paypal refunds, but are keeping money paid by BTC or wire transfer. Basically, they are profiting from "failing", which is pretty fucked up.

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November 06, 2013, 01:24:51 PM
The most fucked up part of this entire situation is that they are likely sitting on loads of BTC making thousands and thousands of dollars and yet they refuse to refund any of their customers.

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a big question mark
November 06, 2013, 11:07:08 AM
So i finally got my money back through paypal.

Like some previous posts said, if you get turned down because you missed the time window to file a claim, just call back and try to get someone else that will help you.

Explain to them that they havent shipped to anyone that ordered from them and they are most likely a fraudulent seller.

I wound up filing mine under "didnt receive goods" and still got my money back. They escalate your claim manually on the phone and then terrahash has ten days to respond. They wont of course.

Then you can watch in your resolution center from the paypal site. My claim actually went to 13 days and it still said "waiting on seller to reply." I gave paypal a call and the person that i talked to told me that they would close it and i would get my money back and an email within the next ten minutes. Two days went by with nothing changing so i called paypal again, went through the same conversation with someone else and told them about how it didnt get resolved two days before hand. They apologized and told me that they would stay on the line as they closed the claim. They did and i got 250 credited to my paypal.

The moral of the story is, paypal isnt perfect. The deterrence of escalating a claim after the time window is probably in place for good reason, but in this case we legitimately got fucked over and we need to let paypal understand it.

thanks for posting that, are you going through paypal US? did you talk to fraud or normal resolution staff? how far outside the 45day window were you?
sorry for the interrogation, just looking for some ammo to help with my next call:)
Im in the US and i use paypal.com, i guess that means paypal US right? I think yeah.. haha

I originally put my order through on 6/19/2013. I was one of the people that got first access to order because i had an account prior to them opening sales.

10/16/2013 is when i tried to open a case through the website, only to be closed immediately. "The claim is closed because it was opened more than 45 days after the transaction date or did not meet the filing criteria."

10/17/2013 is when i called paypal to make a claim and escalate it. I had told them that i didnt receive my product and that the seller hasnt sent anything out to anyone and it is highly likely that they are a fraudulent seller. They put my claim through and i had to wait ten days for terrahash to have a chance to respond.

10/31/2013 i called to get it closed because it had been more than ten days, only for nothing to resolve from it. Must have been a bad paypal employee or someone new or careless. Who knows.

11/2/2013 is when i called and got the refund initiated. The day later $250 was credited to my paypal account and the case was closed.

Glad to hear people are still getting their money back!

Some questions:

Any non-paypal money being returned? [Won't even ask about BTC payments...]

Any way to contact TH?

Any advice for suckers like me people who paid with BTC? Internet Crime Complaint a stupid idea?

Thanks for any help!
 
sr. member
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♫ A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw ♫
November 06, 2013, 05:45:15 AM
So i finally got my money back through paypal.

Like some previous posts said, if you get turned down because you missed the time window to file a claim, just call back and try to get someone else that will help you.

Explain to them that they havent shipped to anyone that ordered from them and they are most likely a fraudulent seller.

I wound up filing mine under "didnt receive goods" and still got my money back. They escalate your claim manually on the phone and then terrahash has ten days to respond. They wont of course.

Then you can watch in your resolution center from the paypal site. My claim actually went to 13 days and it still said "waiting on seller to reply." I gave paypal a call and the person that i talked to told me that they would close it and i would get my money back and an email within the next ten minutes. Two days went by with nothing changing so i called paypal again, went through the same conversation with someone else and told them about how it didnt get resolved two days before hand. They apologized and told me that they would stay on the line as they closed the claim. They did and i got 250 credited to my paypal.

The moral of the story is, paypal isnt perfect. The deterrence of escalating a claim after the time window is probably in place for good reason, but in this case we legitimately got fucked over and we need to let paypal understand it.

thanks for posting that, are you going through paypal US? did you talk to fraud or normal resolution staff? how far outside the 45day window were you?
sorry for the interrogation, just looking for some ammo to help with my next call:)
Im in the US and i use paypal.com, i guess that means paypal US right? I think yeah.. haha

I originally put my order through on 6/19/2013. I was one of the people that got first access to order because i had an account prior to them opening sales.

10/16/2013 is when i tried to open a case through the website, only to be closed immediately. "The claim is closed because it was opened more than 45 days after the transaction date or did not meet the filing criteria."

10/17/2013 is when i called paypal to make a claim and escalate it. I had told them that i didnt receive my product and that the seller hasnt sent anything out to anyone and it is highly likely that they are a fraudulent seller. They put my claim through and i had to wait ten days for terrahash to have a chance to respond.

10/31/2013 i called to get it closed because it had been more than ten days, only for nothing to resolve from it. Must have been a bad paypal employee or someone new or careless. Who knows.

11/2/2013 is when i called and got the refund initiated. The day later $250 was credited to my paypal account and the case was closed.

Glad to hear people are still getting their money back!
sr. member
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
November 06, 2013, 12:12:29 AM
So i finally got my money back through paypal.

Like some previous posts said, if you get turned down because you missed the time window to file a claim, just call back and try to get someone else that will help you.

Explain to them that they havent shipped to anyone that ordered from them and they are most likely a fraudulent seller.

I wound up filing mine under "didnt receive goods" and still got my money back. They escalate your claim manually on the phone and then terrahash has ten days to respond. They wont of course.

Then you can watch in your resolution center from the paypal site. My claim actually went to 13 days and it still said "waiting on seller to reply." I gave paypal a call and the person that i talked to told me that they would close it and i would get my money back and an email within the next ten minutes. Two days went by with nothing changing so i called paypal again, went through the same conversation with someone else and told them about how it didnt get resolved two days before hand. They apologized and told me that they would stay on the line as they closed the claim. They did and i got 250 credited to my paypal.

The moral of the story is, paypal isnt perfect. The deterrence of escalating a claim after the time window is probably in place for good reason, but in this case we legitimately got fucked over and we need to let paypal understand it.

thanks for posting that, are you going through paypal US? did you talk to fraud or normal resolution staff? how far outside the 45day window were you?
sorry for the interrogation, just looking for some ammo to help with my next call:)
Im in the US and i use paypal.com, i guess that means paypal US right? I think yeah.. haha

I originally put my order through on 6/19/2013. I was one of the people that got first access to order because i had an account prior to them opening sales.

10/16/2013 is when i tried to open a case through the website, only to be closed immediately. "The claim is closed because it was opened more than 45 days after the transaction date or did not meet the filing criteria."

10/17/2013 is when i called paypal to make a claim and escalate it. I had told them that i didnt receive my product and that the seller hasnt sent anything out to anyone and it is highly likely that they are a fraudulent seller. They put my claim through and i had to wait ten days for terrahash to have a chance to respond.

10/31/2013 i called to get it closed because it had been more than ten days, only for nothing to resolve from it. Must have been a bad paypal employee or someone new or careless. Who knows.

11/2/2013 is when i called and got the refund initiated. The day later $250 was credited to my paypal account and the case was closed.
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