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1. what makes you think so? not being aggressive, genuinely am interested as i would have thought pp account was still frozen so the funds still there.
2. maybe a last resort - after the legal action decides against him, but still cant get our money back (eg SR case) ;p

thanks for posting that, are you going through paypal US? did you talk to fraud or normal resolution staff? how far outside the 45day window were you?
sorry for the interrogation, just looking for some ammo to help with my next call:)

So i finally got my money back through paypal.

Like some previous posts said, if you get turned down because you missed the time window to file a claim, just call back and try to get someone else that will help you.

Explain to them that they havent shipped to anyone that ordered from them and they are most likely a fraudulent seller.

I wound up filing mine under "didnt receive goods" and still got my money back. They escalate your claim manually on the phone and then terrahash has ten days to respond. They wont of course.

Then you can watch in your resolution center from the paypal site. My claim actually went to 13 days and it still said "waiting on seller to reply." I gave paypal a call and the person that i talked to told me that they would close it and i would get my money back and an email within the next ten minutes. Two days went by with nothing changing so i called paypal again, went through the same conversation with someone else and told them about how it didnt get resolved two days before hand. They apologized and told me that they would stay on the line as they closed the claim. They did and i got 250 credited to my paypal.

The moral of the story is, paypal isnt perfect. The deterrence of escalating a claim after the time window is probably in place for good reason, but in this case we legitimately got fucked over and we need to let paypal understand it.

1. It was frozen at first when doing pre-orders.  Yes it was working at one point.  I would guess they have zero in paypal, and possibly owe them money.

2. dont do something like this..... it would only hurt those with legal actions.   Dont give him reason to sound like a victim.

It's amazing how many different ways a Federal Wire Fraud charge can be applied, obviously this law is meant as a "catch-all" for grey areas without laws covering them. Not a fan of this law really, as it's abused to go after people with weak cases against them, but this is one area it would be very useful. Just based on the posts on this very thread, stating actions on behalf of the company, but not following through could be a treasure for a case.

It would be wise for TH to provide an update, when you collect that amount of assets from others and promise them something in return, but then go dark, it becomes a very appealing case. In fact, those of you that like to get there face out there, should contact some major news media, they'd love to run a story on 20/20 or such to cover the "dark" side of bitcoin and the scams that exist. Whether or not you still debate if this was a scam or not, it's clear that there was intent to mislead.

Has anyone got a response from TH legal or otherwise yet

I have already filed a case with both of them as well as my local state (Oregon, which there is one other complaint from Oregon as well). I have submitted copies of all reciepts and filled out all the paperwork. I have also filed with the FTC.

If terrahash would just communicate what they are doing for their customers then I would not be upset. I understand that engineering these miners is very difficult. I wish they would let us know how and where they are spending my money, and how they are going to give me $4000 of value for the $4000 cash I gave to them almost 6 months ago.

1. but i heard their pp account was frozen at some stage, do we know if it was unfrozen? if its still frozen then he cant move the payments so theres still a chance of pp directly refunding.

2. if collective legal action isnt worth it maybe we all hire a hacker to crack open his btc wallet:) whatever we can do i think we should do sooner rather than later because a, there might still be a chance of getting our 'dues', the longer we wait the less chance of anything and b, doing nothing is basically accepting it (something i dont think we should do until we at least know the status of amir and his legal situation and where the moniez is at!!)

The crap doesnt work. they are bankrupt. the law cant even get them now... it is what it is. Fucking bullshit

Funny how if you walk into a supermarket and steal some steak (or anything), you'll get caught and go to jail.  This guy is walking around free as a bird.  Amir - you should be in prison!!!!

I'd highly advise anyone who has suffered a loss from this character, to contact the following.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/white_collar

http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

Start putting the pressure on this chump.  The more time that passes, the less likely you are to see results.

Well, it's been another month of payroll for TH with our $.

It looked like it in Google,my bad 

100% not the same people!!

Here's where your money went guys  

http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/31/5051116/3d-printed-gun-maker-cody-wilson-crowdfunding-dark-wallet

Amir Taaki is Terrahash right  

Terrahash : you really hurt me. I gave you $4125, you wont even respond to any messages. I payed via bank wire transfer so I am screwed. I have reported you to state level consumer protection agencies, as well as the Federal Trade Commision. I have send multiple emails, you haven't responded to any. Your phone number is not even working anymore. I am a person and you stole money from me. I am a person and you hurt me. You made me suffer, you brought pain onto me.

You sit at your desk trying to make more moves, rather than clean up the mess you have made.  Your reputation in the bitcoin world is total crap, mostly due to lack of communication. Your company is 'disolving'... where did my money go? Send it back to me. Where did my money go? You can't take my money and invest it, that is fraud. You have to deliver a product within a certain date, when the product that has been paid for does not show up, that is fraud.  I have asked you on more than one occasion for a refund and you have not givin me one, that is fraud. You took my money with no intention of ever giving me anything, that is fraud.

I sat and tried to be patient, I tried not to say mean or hurtful things about you hoping that you would try to make this right. You took my money. Well Terrahash, you commited fraud, and you stole my money. I hope I will get my money back and I hope you rot in jail like you deserve.... but those are dreams.

I want a 100% refund delivered yesterday.

The thing is I believe they officially are still open as a corporation. They said they were closing..... but i predict they leave open unless big lawsuit and just keep getting salary.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3257855

Bad english isn't the issue it's bad understanding of how the real world works.  It doesn't matter if it was bitcoin, cash, check, credit card.  This is a regular company that went bankrupt.  The police will not help you.

Who is from USA? May be its time go to the police? May be we can make a group request to the police with information about our orders/TerraHash workers?

Sorry for my bad english..

I would like to see the cash figures.   Considering nothing was shipped out and such massive amount taken.

Would be a interesting thread to see what was the scam that took the most money.