Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history) - page 211.

BroTroxer

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Quote from: gostrol on April 06, 2014, 04:30:00 PM

Quote from: gen. specific on April 05, 2014, 03:26:43 AM

nice initiative on the logo, I think it can use more refinement and maybe dropping the headless business man completely

I've been thinking about a lot of UI/UX tweaks on this coin's interfaces and logo definitely leads that effort

Looking good. The chains might be misinterpreted by some as restrictive rather than strength.

As for the current designs. How about adding a ? to the top right logo?

BroTroxer

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Excellent initiative in your last posts guys Cheesy

If any of you can help in any way but require some funds to pull it of, do send me a message or post here. Anything from advertising space on sites, spending time writing up articles, promotive contests, logo design, or spreading the word by any means would be great. I can throw in a few hundred $ and a small amount of anc/btc.

If we can achieve mentioned snowballing effect I'm sure Anoncoin won't have a problem gaining wider acceptance, and a rising value as a result when Zerocoin is implementied into the production chain.

gostrol

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Quote from: gen. specific on April 05, 2014, 03:26:43 AM

nice initiative on the logo, I think it can use more refinement and maybe dropping the headless business man completely

I've been thinking about a lot of UI/UX tweaks on this coin's interfaces and logo definitely leads that effort

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/694345anc.png

braane

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I don't think anoncoin has a twitter tip bot, so I have been working on one @tipanoncoin

I have just been really busy with class work, so I haven't been making too much progress. I expect that to change this week

shtako

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Quote from: Freedom Capital on April 06, 2014, 03:43:14 PM

Do you think different marketing quality is the only reason for the significant difference in coin market cap between Darkcoin and Anoncoin, $ 2,649,719 vs. $ 615,943 ?

Could be when looking at Google Trends. Darkcoin interest continues to rise while the searches for Anoncoin are looking similar to the ANC chart, both getting closer and closer to the all time low.

Well it is really just like a snowball, when it first starts to roll...

Darkcoin is amazing at marketing and promoting, but the true value of the coin is probably not even 5% of what it currently is traded for. But darkcoin can be discussed in the darkcoin thread.

geekz

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जगत् िमत

Quote from: shtako on April 06, 2014, 01:29:51 PM

Quote from: BlurrCrystal on April 06, 2014, 01:14:54 PM

I believe exposure to the coin will be exponential when ZC is officially implemented. BUT if there are no efforts from the devs and loyals to promote this breakthrough implementation, a "popular" coin will simply copy the implementation and take the glory for its own.
Technical innovation is mandatory for success but with no media coverage it will be copied by som1 else and anc will miss it's chance to glory.
Before getting the implementation and code online for the public, a campaign should be organized to promote this upgrade.

I agree. There should be set up some bounties and a fundraising for marketing. The coin is 10 months old and don't even have a logo.

Most coins is just marketing and hype without any technical innovation or purpose other then make some btc for devs/early adopters. Anoncoin is the exact oposite.

Anyone with some ideas?

Bitcoin was not built in a day my friends. Its upto us to do something. If we all contribute as little as we can, things will change.
So, lets do it!

Freedom Capital

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Do you think different marketing quality is the only reason for the significant difference in coin market cap between Darkcoin and Anoncoin, $ 2,649,719 vs. $ 615,943 ?

Could be when looking at Google Trends. Darkcoin interest continues to rise while the searches for Anoncoin are looking similar to the ANC chart, both getting closer and closer to the all time low.

shtako

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Quote from: BroTroxer on April 06, 2014, 02:45:36 PM

Quote from: shtako on April 06, 2014, 01:29:51 PM

Quote from: BlurrCrystal on April 06, 2014, 01:14:54 PM

I believe exposure to the coin will be exponential when ZC is officially implemented. BUT if there are no efforts from the devs and loyals to promote this breakthrough implementation, a "popular" coin will simply copy the implementation and take the glory for its own.
Technical innovation is mandatory for success but with no media coverage it will be copied by som1 else and anc will miss it's chance to glory.
Before getting the implementation and code online for the public, a campaign should be organized to promote this upgrade.

I agree. There should be set up some bounties and a fundraising for marketing. The coin is 10 months old and don't even have a logo.

Most coins is just marketing and hype without any technical innovation or purpose other then make some btc for devs/early adopters. Anoncoin is the exact oposite.

Anyone with some ideas?

You are correct. Anoncoin is mainly about the technical innovations which sadly, on its own, is not enough to make it the success it could be. Do you have any ideas as to what bounties to offer, and where advertising funds should be spent to get the most out of each dollar and dime? None of us are wealthy money-wise but I will throw in what I can spare if we can come up with a game plan.

Marketing is absolutely not my field, but I can try to help as best i can.

Maybe the idea postet a while back about getting a new logo and some sort of rebranding actually is a good idea?

Standard procedure seems to be to put up a bounty, and let the community/ designers submit candidates for the new logo/ brand. The thread with the competiton/submissions must be very professional and informative since it is supposed to reach out to people who have never heard about anoncoin. What is ANC, what is the purpose of ANC, where is ANC going, and so on.

The competition including the informative/promotive thread must then be marketed on all fronts. The competiton itself should bring a lot of attention, and if it is really successfull anoncoin might end up with a better logo/ brand.

It should be payed for by the community with donations.

BroTroxer

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Quote from: shtako on April 06, 2014, 01:29:51 PM

Quote from: BlurrCrystal on April 06, 2014, 01:14:54 PM

I believe exposure to the coin will be exponential when ZC is officially implemented. BUT if there are no efforts from the devs and loyals to promote this breakthrough implementation, a "popular" coin will simply copy the implementation and take the glory for its own.
Technical innovation is mandatory for success but with no media coverage it will be copied by som1 else and anc will miss it's chance to glory.
Before getting the implementation and code online for the public, a campaign should be organized to promote this upgrade.

I agree. There should be set up some bounties and a fundraising for marketing. The coin is 10 months old and don't even have a logo.

Most coins is just marketing and hype without any technical innovation or purpose other then make some btc for devs/early adopters. Anoncoin is the exact oposite.

Anyone with some ideas?

You are correct. Anoncoin is mainly about the technical innovations which sadly, on its own, is not enough to make it the success it could be. Do you have any ideas as to what bounties to offer, and where advertising funds should be spent to get the most out of each dollar and dime? None of us are wealthy money-wise but I will throw in what I can spare if we can come up with a game plan.

Arlic

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Quote from: BlurrCrystal on April 06, 2014, 01:14:54 PM

I believe exposure to the coin will be exponential when ZC is officially implemented. BUT if there are no efforts from the devs and loyals to promote this breakthrough implementation, a "popular" coin will simply copy the implementation and take the glory for its own.
Technical innovation is mandatory for success but with no media coverage it will be copied by som1 else and anc will miss it's chance to glory.
Before getting the implementation and code online for the public, a campaign should be organized to promote this upgrade.

Most of people belives in that, the darkcoin is the first one anonymous cryptocurrency, as we know this is not true, but darkcoin's PR is way way better.
High activity on twitter is good point, but just few know about the twitter page. Anoncoin activity on facebook account is low, and the fanpage look not proffesional.
And finally, the reddit fanpage look not attractive, and there are just few observers.

lunokhod2

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Quote from: shtako on April 06, 2014, 01:29:51 PM

Quote from: BlurrCrystal on April 06, 2014, 01:14:54 PM

I believe exposure to the coin will be exponential when ZC is officially implemented. BUT if there are no efforts from the devs and loyals to promote this breakthrough implementation, a "popular" coin will simply copy the implementation and take the glory for its own.
Technical innovation is mandatory for success but with no media coverage it will be copied by som1 else and anc will miss it's chance to glory.
Before getting the implementation and code online for the public, a campaign should be organized to promote this upgrade.

I agree. There should be set up some bounties and a fundraising for marketing. The coin is 10 months old and don't even have a logo.

Most coins is just marketing and hype without any technical innovation or purpose other then make some btc for devs/early adopters. Anoncoin is the exact oposite.

Anyone with some ideas?

I just started working on a wikipedia entry for anoncoin. As soon as zerocoin is implemented, and as soon as there are a couple of news stories to justify "notability", I will create its own page. At the time being, anyone can edit the draft here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lunokhod/sandbox

I suspect that there are errors...

shtako

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Quote from: BlurrCrystal on April 06, 2014, 01:14:54 PM

I believe exposure to the coin will be exponential when ZC is officially implemented. BUT if there are no efforts from the devs and loyals to promote this breakthrough implementation, a "popular" coin will simply copy the implementation and take the glory for its own.
Technical innovation is mandatory for success but with no media coverage it will be copied by som1 else and anc will miss it's chance to glory.
Before getting the implementation and code online for the public, a campaign should be organized to promote this upgrade.

I agree. There should be set up some bounties and a fundraising for marketing. The coin is 10 months old and don't even have a logo.

Most coins is just marketing and hype without any technical innovation or purpose other then make some btc for devs/early adopters. Anoncoin is the exact oposite.

Anyone with some ideas?

BlurrCrystal

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I believe exposure to the coin will be exponential when ZC is officially implemented. BUT if there are no efforts from the devs and loyals to promote this breakthrough implementation, a "popular" coin will simply copy the implementation and take the glory for its own.
Technical innovation is mandatory for success but with no media coverage it will be copied by som1 else and anc will miss it's chance to glory.
Before getting the implementation and code online for the public, a campaign should be organized to promote this upgrade.

lunokhod2

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Quote from: gen. specific on April 05, 2014, 08:01:29 AM

Quote from: lunokhod2 on April 05, 2014, 06:53:45 AM

Quote from: gen. specific on April 03, 2014, 09:14:00 PM

lots of questions on this thread that go unanswered

The lack of information is currently a detriment to this coin, and the relevant information changes every few weeks

so I'll try to answer a few things, I am not affiliated with Anoncoin, just been having my team research it for the last few months:

The Zerocoin "bloat" problem has been solved. First of all, it isn't that large of an addition to block sizes, and second of all, they get deleted or pruned from the blockchain after X confirmations. This completely mitigates any problems that were imagined with zerocoin blockchain size.

Regarding I2P - not really sure. I know a lot more about TOR than I do I2P. I do not think you need your own I2P client running to use Anoncoin in I2P

As someone who is only interested in anonymous digital currency transactions, and not investing, I have to agree that it is hard to find critical/basic information about this coin. Ultimately, this lack of information will stop people from using it. Most of this info can be found in several online forums, but it would be best if this could be added to the official website. For example (and yes, I know the answers to most of these questions):

-what is the time for generating new blocks?
-how many blocks were pre-mined, and what happened to the corresponding anc?
-why is the block reward schedule so odd? (4.2 to 7 to 5 ANC)
-what exactly does I2P do for anonymity (most people naively think that transactions can't be tracked....)
-Do you use scrypt? or SHA-256?

In addition, I think that it would be great to show a graph of the expected number of coins as a function of time, as well as the expected block reward as a function of time.

-what exactly does I2P do for anonymity (most people naively think that transactions can't be tracked....)

you can look at what nodes are on the network. you can correlate time and frequency that you see certain IP addresses

IP addresses can be masked, thats all

I know that. My point is that this should be stated on the website for people who don't know what I2P is...

gen. specific

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Quote from: lunokhod2 on April 05, 2014, 06:53:45 AM

Quote from: gen. specific on April 03, 2014, 09:14:00 PM

lots of questions on this thread that go unanswered

The lack of information is currently a detriment to this coin, and the relevant information changes every few weeks

so I'll try to answer a few things, I am not affiliated with Anoncoin, just been having my team research it for the last few months:

The Zerocoin "bloat" problem has been solved. First of all, it isn't that large of an addition to block sizes, and second of all, they get deleted or pruned from the blockchain after X confirmations. This completely mitigates any problems that were imagined with zerocoin blockchain size.

Regarding I2P - not really sure. I know a lot more about TOR than I do I2P. I do not think you need your own I2P client running to use Anoncoin in I2P

As someone who is only interested in anonymous digital currency transactions, and not investing, I have to agree that it is hard to find critical/basic information about this coin. Ultimately, this lack of information will stop people from using it. Most of this info can be found in several online forums, but it would be best if this could be added to the official website. For example (and yes, I know the answers to most of these questions):

-what is the time for generating new blocks?
-how many blocks were pre-mined, and what happened to the corresponding anc?
-why is the block reward schedule so odd? (4.2 to 7 to 5 ANC)
-what exactly does I2P do for anonymity (most people naively think that transactions can't be tracked....)
-Do you use scrypt? or SHA-256?

In addition, I think that it would be great to show a graph of the expected number of coins as a function of time, as well as the expected block reward as a function of time.

-what exactly does I2P do for anonymity (most people naively think that transactions can't be tracked....)

you can look at what nodes are on the network. you can correlate time and frequency that you see certain IP addresses

IP addresses can be masked, thats all

lunokhod2

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Quote from: gen. specific on April 03, 2014, 09:14:00 PM

lots of questions on this thread that go unanswered

The lack of information is currently a detriment to this coin, and the relevant information changes every few weeks

so I'll try to answer a few things, I am not affiliated with Anoncoin, just been having my team research it for the last few months:

The Zerocoin "bloat" problem has been solved. First of all, it isn't that large of an addition to block sizes, and second of all, they get deleted or pruned from the blockchain after X confirmations. This completely mitigates any problems that were imagined with zerocoin blockchain size.

Regarding I2P - not really sure. I know a lot more about TOR than I do I2P. I do not think you need your own I2P client running to use Anoncoin in I2P

As someone who is only interested in anonymous digital currency transactions, and not investing, I have to agree that it is hard to find critical/basic information about this coin. Ultimately, this lack of information will stop people from using it. Most of this info can be found in several online forums, but it would be best if this could be added to the official website. For example (and yes, I know the answers to most of these questions):

-what is the time for generating new blocks?
-how many blocks were pre-mined, and what happened to the corresponding anc?
-why is the block reward schedule so odd? (4.2 to 7 to 5 ANC)
-what exactly does I2P do for anonymity (most people naively think that transactions can't be tracked....)
-Do you use scrypt? or SHA-256?

In addition, I think that it would be great to show a graph of the expected number of coins as a function of time, as well as the expected block reward as a function of time.

gen. specific

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nice initiative on the logo, I think it can use more refinement and maybe dropping the headless business man completely

I've been thinking about a lot of UI/UX tweaks on this coin's interfaces and logo definitely leads that effort

gostrol

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Quote from: K1773R on April 04, 2014, 08:32:21 AM

how does freedom relate with chains?

In this case it does not.

I don't think Anoncoin is directly about freedom. I think it is about privacy (question mark) and security (chain).
Privacy allows more freedom, yes. But I think all cryptocurrencies are about freedom, and privacy is the only point where ANC differs from them.

However, I understand the chain may look coercitive, but it is one of a few cases where it is not. Because the zerocoin-powered (block)chain allows privacy (freedom).

K1773R

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Quote from: gostrol on April 03, 2014, 12:11:32 PM

Hello,

Anoncoin is going to move to a next step by implementing Zerocoin. So I think it is time for the coin to have its own logo instead of the Anonymous logo. However, to keep the Anonymous filiation, I just modified the existing logo, replacing laurel-leaves by a chain. The chain is a symbol of security and also represents the blockchain distributed around the world.

Let me know if you're interested in this design, I can give you the files you need (AI, etc.).

Best regards,

Gostrol

how does freedom relate with chains?

shtako

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Quote from: gen. specific on April 03, 2014, 09:14:00 PM

I do not think you need your own I2P client running to use Anoncoin in I2P

When you start the wallet you get a warning that anoncoin is running on clearnet. But i have read that they are working to integreate the I2P client in the wallet.

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