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Topic: Official FutureBit Apollo LTC Image and Support thread - page 39. (Read 49878 times)

newbie
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My solar setup: 2x300w solar panels, eSmart 3series 60A MPPT charge controller, 12V 200Ah AGM battery. Miner connected to controllers load terminal through 15Amps dc trip-switch(works as a fuse) and controller set up to shut load when battery voltage drops to 10.8v. The miner consumption @this setup never exceeded 10A (miner setup eco mode)   Due to location of solar panels miner works only 15-17Hrs when sunny day. Need to put panels on the roof, now it is on the ground and I miss ~50-70w in production and ~1.5hrs of sun in evening. When will fix all that, should be enough to run it 24h when sunny
jr. member
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Hi, I run one of solar. My charge controller gives up to 14.4v when bulk charging and when works on batteries I set up to run it all the way to 10.8v(~50% of the batteries). Miner runs perfect in this condition and consumes about 9-10Amps @ 10.8v(eco mode). The only thing I added 15Amp circuit breaker just to be on safe side. P.S. I'm not electrician, this is just my experiment.

Could you give me more info on your solar setup? Panel and controller size. Did you connect the Apollo directly to the controller with maybe a fuse in between? What kind of battery do you use
Right now I only have a couple 100 watt solar panels and a small 30 amp controller but I'm really interested in doing this too.
Sorry for all the questions and appreciate any help you can offer.
newbie
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Hi, I run one of solar. My charge controller gives up to 14.4v when bulk charging and when works on batteries I set up to run it all the way to 10.8v(~50% of the batteries). Miner runs perfect in this condition and consumes about 9-10Amps @ 10.8v(eco mode). The only thing I added 15Amp circuit breaker just to be on safe side. P.S. I'm not electrician, this is just my experiment.
legendary
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Hi I have purchased one of these and I want to run it off my solar...I have a PCie splitter and I am intending on turning the other end into one + and one - to the 12v outlet from the battery bank. My question is... the actual unloadded voltage from the battery bank is 14v not exactly 12... if I hook this up anyway, will I blow the unit?

Disclaimer - I'm not a electrician or elec engineer. I'm looking into running one of these off a solar controller as well. The specs for my APW3++ show the output for the PCIE connector is DC Voltage 12.15 V.

I was going to measure voltage and current at one of the PCIE connectors when running but have not found time to do that yet.


The regulators and caps are rated for up to 16v input. Everything is tuned for 12v obviously, but you wont "fry" the board if you run it at 14v...I just wouldn't go any higher since once you approach the limits of the caps things will start getting unstable.
jr. member
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so how long of a time frame were u mining to get 15% of the block, and were u just using one apollo.
im a newb , have a apollo batch 2 on pre-order

I've been running three Apollos since batch one, few months I guess. Just got lucky and found a shared block. With three miners running med speed my time to find block is 4 years average.
jr. member
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Hi I have purchased one of these and I want to run it off my solar...I have a PCie splitter and I am intending on turning the other end into one + and one - to the 12v outlet from the battery bank. My question is... the actual unloadded voltage from the battery bank is 14v not exactly 12... if I hook this up anyway, will I blow the unit?

Disclaimer - I'm not a electrician or elec engineer. I'm looking into running one of these off a solar controller as well. The specs for my APW3++ show the output for the PCIE connector is DC Voltage 12.15 V.

I was going to measure voltage and current at one of the PCIE connectors when running but have not found time to do that yet.

Let us know if u get i running, i would like to go solar myself.Im in san francisco and i pay .22 a kilowat. A solar alternative for me would be great.
jr. member
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Definitely not...the donation pool only mines on litecoinpool.org. If your solo mining you would get 100% of the solo block, nor would I ever take a solo block from someone even if the donation share fell on it. Sounds like an issue with zerg pool, but seems like he deleted the posted so I'm guessing it was resolved by them.

Congrats on the solo block either way Cheesy

I deleted the post when I realized just because I have my settings to mc=LTC,m=solo, it does not really mean I am just solo mining. The pool seems to be a bit buggy as I still do some shared mining. Just lucky enough to be mining only LTC and enjoyed a 15% piece of a shared block. So I immediately ordered another Apollo Grin


so how long of a time frame were u mining to get 15% of the block, and were u just using one apollo.
im a newb , have a apollo batch 2 on pre-order
jr. member
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Hi I have purchased one of these and I want to run it off my solar...I have a PCie splitter and I am intending on turning the other end into one + and one - to the 12v outlet from the battery bank. My question is... the actual unloadded voltage from the battery bank is 14v not exactly 12... if I hook this up anyway, will I blow the unit?

Disclaimer - I'm not a electrician or elec engineer. I'm looking into running one of these off a solar controller as well. The specs for my APW3++ show the output for the PCIE connector is DC Voltage 12.15 V.

I was going to measure voltage and current at one of the PCIE connectors when running but have not found time to do that yet.
jr. member
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Do you think its something worth doing every once in a while as preventative?

SD cards have a finite lifespan. The more you write to them, the shorter that lifespan becomes.
newbie
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Hi I have purchased one of these and I want to run it off my solar...I have a PCie splitter and I am intending on turning the other end into one + and one - to the 12v outlet from the battery bank. My question is... the actual unloadded voltage from the battery bank is 14v not exactly 12... if I hook this up anyway, will I blow the unit?
jr. member
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Yea this is the main issue we are still trying to figure out with the full node (other than the memory limitations we are still working through). We still want to make it that the whole node runs on the current hardware with nothing extra, but based on how bad the node wears down SD cards we might need to provide an external USB drive solution for better reliability.

Almost done with getting Batch 2 out the door, and my full attention will turn to this...

you've mentioned how reformatting/re-imaging the SD card fixes problems but I don't know if its the SD cards I bought (amazon) but I've never had an issue where I thought I needed to re-image the card. Do you think its something worth doing every once in a while as preventative? Is there any value to it, efficiency, etc...?
legendary
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Assuming jstefanop et. al. get it running on the Orange Pi Zero, the biggest limitation is the storage space; my node is currently using 24G to store the blockchain, so you'll need a sizable SD card.

It could be more practical to store the blockchain on some USB flash stick since there's an USB port available anyway. That way the SD card size wouldn't matter that much and updating the firmware by fully erasing the card content wouldn't reset the blockchain back to zero (or to some other older snapshot the firmware possibly provides).

Yea this is the main issue we are still trying to figure out with the full node (other than the memory limitations we are still working through). We still want to make it that the whole node runs on the current hardware with nothing extra, but based on how bad the node wears down SD cards we might need to provide an external USB drive solution for better reliability.

Almost done with getting Batch 2 out the door, and my full attention will turn to this...
jr. member
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Assuming jstefanop et. al. get it running on the Orange Pi Zero, the biggest limitation is the storage space; my node is currently using 24G to store the blockchain, so you'll need a sizable SD card.

It could be more practical to store the blockchain on some USB flash stick since there's an USB port available anyway. That way the SD card size wouldn't matter that much and updating the firmware by fully erasing the card content wouldn't reset the blockchain back to zero (or to some other older snapshot the firmware possibly provides).
jr. member
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Anyone privy to if that would be supported OR would that core only be accessible by that one Apollo?

I don't see any reason why you couldn't 'share' a node from an Apollo. That's the whole idea behind running a node anyway. Assuming jstefanop et. al. get it running on the Orange Pi Zero, the biggest limitation is the storage space; my node is currently using 24G to store the blockchain, so you'll need a sizable SD card. The rest is just network use.
jr. member
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Decisions decisions...

I'm looking at some Linux boxes to install a Litecoin core. My idea is to (network) connect my Apollos and Moonlanders to a single local core. I considered a VPN but it would introduce network latency which I don't want.

However - if Futurebit is promising the next Apollo version will support a Litecoin core I might forget the above and just use that - IF I will be able to point my current Apollos and Moonlanders to that core. Anyone privy to if that would be supported OR would that core only be accessible by that one Apollo?

Huh
This would be great if possible to do. Then I can point my old Apollo’s to me new Apollo’s instead of swapping out the memory board
jr. member
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Decisions decisions...

I'm looking at some Linux boxes to install a Litecoin core. My idea is to (network) connect my Apollos and Moonlanders to a single local core. I considered a VPN but it would introduce network latency which I don't want.

However - if Futurebit is promising the next Apollo version will support a Litecoin core I might forget the above and just use that - IF I will be able to point my current Apollos and Moonlanders to that core. Anyone privy to if that would be supported OR would that core only be accessible by that one Apollo?

Huh
jr. member
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Definitely not...the donation pool only mines on litecoinpool.org. If your solo mining you would get 100% of the solo block, nor would I ever take a solo block from someone even if the donation share fell on it. Sounds like an issue with zerg pool, but seems like he deleted the posted so I'm guessing it was resolved by them.

Congrats on the solo block either way Cheesy

I deleted the post when I realized just because I have my settings to mc=LTC,m=solo, it does not really mean I am just solo mining. The pool seems to be a bit buggy as I still do some shared mining. Just lucky enough to be mining only LTC and enjoyed a 15% piece of a shared block. So I immediately ordered another Apollo Grin
legendary
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It sounds like the mining power of my 2 Apollos will be reduced to effectively just one.

With all other variables unchanged, the only difference is that the block reward is half as large as it is before the halving.

There are a lot of things to consider, though. Halving causes a sort of scarcity, which generally results in an increased value, so the market should compensate with a higher price per coin. Whether or not the halving gets negated by price changes remains to be seen, but it's possible the "reward" (in USD for instance) is similar, or the same, after the halving as it is now.

Regardless, your chance of finding a block is entirely based on your hash rate vs network hash rate and difficulty, which is not *directly* affected by the halving, so saying that your given effectiveness now (your two Apollos) will be half as effective after is not at all accurate.

The above is correct. Dont forget that EVERYONE on the litecoin network gets their devices "halved". All Apollo users are in better shape than everyone else since they are currently still up there as the highest efficiency scrypt devices.

I would also not be surprised if a lot of L3 farms shutdown after the halving. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a 25% difficulty drop shortly after halving.
legendary
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I hit LTC block 1662207 mining solo today on Zerg but only got 3.9 LTC. while I am happy for the 3.9 LTC how do I investigate where the rest went? I asked on the ZERG forum too.

You must have had donation mode activated, and the rest went to jstefanop.

/s

Definitely not...the donation pool only mines on litecoinpool.org. If your solo mining you would get 100% of the solo block, nor would I ever take a solo block from someone even if the donation share fell on it. Sounds like an issue with zerg pool, but seems like he deleted the posted so I'm guessing it was resolved by them.

Congrats on the solo block either way Cheesy
jr. member
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It sounds like the mining power of my 2 Apollos will be reduced to effectively just one.

With all other variables unchanged, the only difference is that the block reward is half as large as it is before the halving.

There are a lot of things to consider, though. Halving causes a sort of scarcity, which generally results in an increased value, so the market should compensate with a higher price per coin. Whether or not the halving gets negated by price changes remains to be seen, but it's possible the "reward" (in USD for instance) is similar, or the same, after the halving as it is now.

Regardless, your chance of finding a block is entirely based on your hash rate vs network hash rate and difficulty, which is not *directly* affected by the halving, so saying that your given effectiveness now (your two Apollos) will be half as effective after is not at all accurate.
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