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Topic: Official FutureBit Apollo LTC Image and Support thread - page 42. (Read 49938 times)

jr. member
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hi jstefanop

are you going to make ur in EMA like bitshopper.de, PSU looks really good


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One of my PCI-E connector on Apollo get burned using Balanced mode on default settings.
Any suggestions?




First that looks like a cheap low gauge PCIE splitter, second did you have two separate PCIE from wires from your PSU plugged into both plugs on the Apollo?

Looks like you only had one plugged in, which is a no-no for anything other than ECO mode.

You should always have both plugs from your PSU plugged into the Apollo regardless to be safe, thats why they are there.

Wow, such a waste. Great power supply, very high efficiency, great miner Apollo there, all wasted by cheap 6pin to 6pin cables or even Y splitters... Never cheap out on this.
Your Apollo will still work I presume, you have another PCI-e female port to use in ECO mode, or you can plug them both, but be aware that one pin is probably not conductive anymore so you cannot ever use turbo mode, unless you fix it/solder it back.
legendary
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Hello.
I have also one, but i have a question. Is it possible to update the Minera Version to the 0.9.1.
Maybe with SSH?

Thanks Dominik

Our UI is custom built, it does not run minera (only similarities are the style since the minera developer works for us to build our front end UI).
legendary
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One of my PCI-E connector on Apollo get burned using Balanced mode on default settings.
Any suggestions?




First that looks like a cheap low gauge PCIE splitter, second did you have two separate PCIE from wires from your PSU plugged into both plugs on the Apollo?

Looks like you only had one plugged in, which is a no-no for anything other than ECO mode.

You should always have both plugs from your PSU plugged into the Apollo regardless to be safe, thats why they are there.
newbie
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which psu are u using?
newbie
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One of my PCI-E connector on Apollo get burned using Balanced mode on default settings.
Any suggestions?

https://ibb.co/DW94Q7J
https://ibb.co/D1trSmR
newbie
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Hello.
I have also one, but i have a question. Is it possible to update the Minera Version to the 0.9.1.
Maybe with SSH?

Thanks Dominik
legendary
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Woo hoo!  Re-image worked!  Houston we no longer have a problem!

yea if you dont have a good SD card they get corrupted quickly running an OS...I wish our MCUs had onboard NAND :/
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Woo hoo!  Re-image worked!  Houston we no longer have a problem!
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will do, I also will try a different power supply, just in case.  will post results tonight
jr. member
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so... after 3 solid weeks of mining, my apollo stopped today.

I can access the dashboard, but I cant get it to start mining again.  I click the "start" button and it tells me to wait 30 seconds and then nothing.  I have tried rebooting it, as well as tried all 3 modes.  Same result, any suggestions?

I'd try re-imaging the SD card. I think others have seen this before.
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so... after 3 solid weeks of mining, my apollo stopped today.

I can access the dashboard, but I cant get it to start mining again.  I click the "start" button and it tells me to wait 30 seconds and then nothing.  I have tried rebooting it, as well as tried all 3 modes.  Same result, any suggestions?
newbie
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@jstefanop - awesome news today re your miners. Thank you, much kudos.
legendary
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Can you mine two pools / balance ?  so far I can add multiple pools but only failover strategy.
Can you dual mine two currencies?

No it’s not possible to mine two coins with an ASIC miner. That’s only for GPUs and even that is limited. 
newbie
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Can you mine two pools / balance ?  so far I can add multiple pools but only failover strategy.
Can you dual mine two currencies?
legendary
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- A super ECO mode which further undervolts and underclocks the Apollos for folks with high electricity costs and in readiness for the Litecoin halving in August to squeeze the efficiency. Although I hope the price doubles to compensate.

You can always experiment with this on your own. Just go to custom settings and start lowering frequency/voltage.

You can't "break" anything when undervolting/underclocking. The ASIC chips will just produce a lot of HW errors if you undervolt too far. Things only get dangerous when you start over-volting.

FYI Eco mode defaults are ~740mV voltage and 600MHZ clocks. So there is still plenty of headroom to go even more efficient. I think the best i have gotten is ~ .9 W/MH at around 80-90MH


could you  add

to this

Eco default =  740 mv  600 mhz
Balanced default = ?
Turbo default = ?


I went in and set

735.3 mv and freq 598

my errors are 0.4%

my hash is 98

I just got an Apollo a few weeks ago and have been running in eco.  I did start tuning from eco and got it down to 727 mv and up to 611 with 1% HW errors, which I am pretty happy with!  But I have the same question.  I want to see if I can push it higher, even with a few more mv, so knowing the stock settings for balanced and Turbo would be a big help.

Thanks for making these!  They rock and I'll grab another one once they are back in stock!

Yea ill put all the stuff up "soon". Still haven't updated the OP on this thread with a real writeup :/....between building the new PSU, software updates, and getting Batch 2 ready I have been swamped.
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- A super ECO mode which further undervolts and underclocks the Apollos for folks with high electricity costs and in readiness for the Litecoin halving in August to squeeze the efficiency. Although I hope the price doubles to compensate.

You can always experiment with this on your own. Just go to custom settings and start lowering frequency/voltage.

You can't "break" anything when undervolting/underclocking. The ASIC chips will just produce a lot of HW errors if you undervolt too far. Things only get dangerous when you start over-volting.

FYI Eco mode defaults are ~740mV voltage and 600MHZ clocks. So there is still plenty of headroom to go even more efficient. I think the best i have gotten is ~ .9 W/MH at around 80-90MH


could you  add

to this

Eco default =  740 mv  600 mhz
Balanced default = ?
Turbo default = ?


I went in and set

735.3 mv and freq 598

my errors are 0.4%

my hash is 98

I just got an Apollo a few weeks ago and have been running in eco.  I did start tuning from eco and got it down to 727 mv and up to 611 with 1% HW errors, which I am pretty happy with!  But I have the same question.  I want to see if I can push it higher, even with a few more mv, so knowing the stock settings for balanced and Turbo would be a big help.

Thanks for making these!  They rock and I'll grab another one once they are back in stock!
newbie
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@whiteogre

Many thanks for writeup. Worked a treat. Got mine down to 702.1mV before HW errors started showing up like there was no tomorrow. I left miner running for about 5min on each increment and in the end ended up saving roughly 15W. (corsair link isn't as accurate as a powermeter)

MCU and miner temp stayed pretty solid through testing.

Cheers
legendary
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Did you change anything pool wise? Sounds like a bad SD card to me, I would try reflashing it.

Didnt change anything. Didnt have time to look at the problem or reflash either and now it seems to have stabalized. Only one miner connected to pool and averiging around 100mh on poolside like normal. No clue what this hickup was.

Sounds like there was some sort of pool side issue/server was down.

Currently if something happens poolside and the Apollo is backed up it will shoot thousands of bad shares to the pool on re-connect...this is why you see a high "reject" rate even though nothing is wrong with the miner. Ill need to figure out a way to do an automatic reset of stats for cases like this.
newbie
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Optimizing efficiency using custom mode

I spent some time playing around with custom mode with the target of optimizing the unit efficiency while keeping the hashrate the same as in eco mode. Here are some findings and instructions that may be of use to also others.

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Nice writeup!

I changed my 2 Apollos to balanced mode about 6 weeks ago and they are running very stable averaging about 121 Mh/s. I found the testing done by #whiteogre interesting.  Can the same kind of analysis be done in balanced mode?  What are the stock settings when on balanced mode?   I don't have any issues with hardware errors, just wondering about efficiency. 
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