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April 03, 2014, 05:47:51 PM
Again correct me if im wrong as i admit im not the brightest spark in the world but phinnaeus gage you said

"On to the partial refund aspect. There is no way that AMT can refund you $185 for a PSU that'll cost them $200, for they would be saving $15 on each and every person requesting one per miner ordered. Multiply that several fold and AMT would go broke. Now, imagine if they offered a refund on every part sans 10-15% savings each. They would go broke faster yet, for now we're talking several thousands of dollars of savings on AMT's part, not to mention the extra money they'll make due to shipping less"

Now im not the best at maths so unless im missing something if they are SAVING $15 per psu after a partial refund as u say, how the hell can they go broke? surely they would be making profit on that as they pay you $185 back for what would have been a $200 psu. please correct me if i got that wrong.

Clearly you didn't graduate Penn State with a 7 year degree in business Roll Eyes
legendary
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April 03, 2014, 05:42:01 PM
Again correct me if im wrong as i admit im not the brightest spark in the world but phinnaeus gage you said

"On to the partial refund aspect. There is no way that AMT can refund you $185 for a PSU that'll cost them $200, for they would be saving $15 on each and every person requesting one per miner ordered. Multiply that several fold and AMT would go broke. Now, imagine if they offered a refund on every part sans 10-15% savings each. They would go broke faster yet, for now we're talking several thousands of dollars of savings on AMT's part, not to mention the extra money they'll make due to shipping less"

Now im not the best at maths so unless im missing something if they are SAVING $15 per psu after a partial refund as u say, how the hell can they go broke? surely they would be making profit on that as they pay you $185 back for what would have been a $200 psu. please correct me if i got that wrong.

I believe it's called Sarcasm my friend.
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April 03, 2014, 05:39:53 PM
Again correct me if im wrong as i admit im not the brightest spark in the world but phinnaeus gage you said

"On to the partial refund aspect. There is no way that AMT can refund you $185 for a PSU that'll cost them $200, for they would be saving $15 on each and every person requesting one per miner ordered. Multiply that several fold and AMT would go broke. Now, imagine if they offered a refund on every part sans 10-15% savings each. They would go broke faster yet, for now we're talking several thousands of dollars of savings on AMT's part, not to mention the extra money they'll make due to shipping less"

Now im not the best at maths so unless im missing something if they are SAVING $15 per psu after a partial refund as u say, how the hell can they go broke? surely they would be making profit on that as they pay you $185 back for what would have been a $200 psu. please correct me if i got that wrong.
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April 03, 2014, 05:37:34 PM


Obviously, you don't understand AMT. For every order cancelled, two more were made via professional mining outfits operating hosting facilities.


How do you know this?

Who are they shipping to?

i'd bet money cex.io and the rest of those types of cloud operations have sent a pretty penny to AMT, and they probably got working rigs out of it.  That's how the cloud hashing games is being played.... order hw from pretty much every maker, and stand them up as they come in, then rent out the GH at a profit.

I just read an article about it on coindesk.  AMT wasnt mentioned, but they(CEX.IO) did say they were pre-ordering from pretty much everybody.

http://www.coindesk.com/cloud-hashing-ceo-hardware-network-growth-threat-pools/
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April 03, 2014, 05:35:37 PM


Obviously, you don't understand AMT. For every order cancelled, two more were made via professional mining outfits operating hosting facilities.


How do you know this?

Who are they shipping to?
hes a mole!
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April 03, 2014, 05:23:59 PM


Obviously, you don't understand AMT. For every order cancelled, two more were made via professional mining outfits operating hosting facilities.


How do you know this?

Who are they shipping to?
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April 03, 2014, 05:12:13 PM
More to the point AMT if so many people have cancelled their orders and waiting for refund then why have you not shipped my (LEGO) kit yet?
surely by now you have more kits and miners than orders. correct me if im wrong here.

Obviously, you don't understand AMT. For every order cancelled, two more were made via professional mining outfits operating hosting facilities.

On to the partial refund aspect. There is no way that AMT can refund you $185 for a PSU that'll cost them $200, for they would be saving $15 on each and every person requesting one per miner ordered. Multiply that several fold and AMT would go broke. Now, imagine if they offered a refund on every part sans 10-15% savings each. They would go broke faster yet, for now we're talking several thousands of dollars of savings on AMT's part, not to mention the extra money they'll make due to shipping less weight.

Clearly, anybody attending Penn State for 7 years to get a business degree can see that this is not a viable option, and that waiting for all the parts to arrive after paying full price for them and lose money on shipping, to boot, is the most viable option from AMT's standpoint. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised to learnt that Josh is now in negotiations with some family members to have them, too, mortgage their homes to further fund this genius business model.

My only regret is that I didn't offer up a $100K loan to get AMT through this minor hiccup. I'm going to take the liberty and reach out to Andreas Antonopoulos to see if he'll use his good name to garner some donations to further AMT's brilliant business plan along.

BUY stock tip of the day:

Quote
Red Bull GmbH is an Austrian company which sells the Red Bull energy drink. In 2011, a total of 4.631 billion cans were sold in over 161 countries. 8,294 employees generated €4.25 billion in revenue.[1] The headquarters of Red Bull GmbH are located in Fuschl am See, Austria.
fyi im still happy to take the kit if they send it by tomorrow as they said via e.mail, at least if they do i will get SOMETHING for my money as i know i wont get a refund
i have just thought of a cunning plan...................... amt send out the miner via fed ex as a complete unit, its classed as computer accessories or a computer by the shipping company incurring a bazinga (alot) amount of tax.
 but if they ship it not in a case, minus the integral power supply, then it CAN be classed as electronic COMPONENTS incurring minimal / no import tax at all.
this is what i found when checking import tax prices.. working units taxed to hell., parts not so...... please ship with description electrical components please! :-)
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April 03, 2014, 04:41:05 PM
More to the point AMT if so many people have cancelled their orders and waiting for refund then why have you not shipped my (LEGO) kit yet?
surely by now you have more kits and miners than orders. correct me if im wrong here.

Obviously, you don't understand AMT. For every order cancelled, two more were made via professional mining outfits operating hosting facilities.

On to the partial refund aspect. There is no way that AMT can refund you $185 for a PSU that'll cost them $200, for they would be saving $15 on each and every person requesting one per miner ordered. Multiply that several fold and AMT would go broke. Now, imagine if they offered a refund on every part sans 10-15% savings each. They would go broke faster yet, for now we're talking several thousands of dollars of savings on AMT's part, not to mention the extra money they'll make due to shipping less weight.

Clearly, anybody attending Penn State for 7 years to get a business degree can see that this is not a viable option, and that waiting for all the parts to arrive after paying full price for them and lose money on shipping, to boot, is the most viable option from AMT's standpoint. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised to learnt that Josh is now in negotiations with some family members to have them, too, mortgage their homes to further fund this genius business model.

My only regret is that I didn't offer up a $100K loan to get AMT through this minor hiccup. I'm going to take the liberty and reach out to Andreas Antonopoulos to see if he'll use his good name to garner some donations to further AMT's brilliant business plan along.

BUY stock tip of the day:

Quote
Red Bull GmbH is an Austrian company which sells the Red Bull energy drink. In 2011, a total of 4.631 billion cans were sold in over 161 countries. 8,294 employees generated €4.25 billion in revenue.[1] The headquarters of Red Bull GmbH are located in Fuschl am See, Austria.
fyi im still happy to take the kit if they send it by tomorrow as they said via e.mail, at least if they do i will get SOMETHING for my money as i know i wont get a refund
legendary
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April 03, 2014, 04:35:20 PM
More to the point AMT if so many people have cancelled their orders and waiting for refund then why have you not shipped my (LEGO) kit yet?
surely by now you have more kits and miners than orders. correct me if im wrong here.

Obviously, you don't understand AMT. For every order cancelled, two more were made via professional mining outfits operating hosting facilities.

On to the partial refund aspect. There is no way that AMT can refund you $185 for a PSU that'll cost them $200, for they would be saving $15 on each and every person requesting one per miner ordered. Multiply that several fold and AMT would go broke. Now, imagine if they offered a refund on every part sans 10-15% savings each. They would go broke faster yet, for now we're talking several thousands of dollars of savings on AMT's part, not to mention the extra money they'll make due to shipping less weight.

Clearly, anybody attending Penn State for 7 years to get a business degree can see that this is not a viable option, and that waiting for all the parts to arrive after paying full price for them and lose money on shipping, to boot, is the most viable option from AMT's standpoint. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised to learnt that Josh is now in negotiations with some family members to have them, too, mortgage their homes to further fund this genius business model.

My only regret is that I didn't offer up a $100K loan to get AMT through this minor hiccup. I'm going to take the liberty and reach out to Andreas Antonopoulos to see if he'll use his good name to garner some donations to further AMT's brilliant business plan along.

BUY stock tip of the day:

Quote
Red Bull GmbH is an Austrian company which sells the Red Bull energy drink. In 2011, a total of 4.631 billion cans were sold in over 161 countries. 8,294 employees generated €4.25 billion in revenue.[1] The headquarters of Red Bull GmbH are located in Fuschl am See, Austria.
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April 03, 2014, 04:34:19 PM
I sent an email out of the blue to BFL today for an order status at 3:41 PM EST, do you know when BFL replied to me? 4:05 PM EST. And it is ALWAYS like that for me.
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April 03, 2014, 04:30:21 PM
We will see if this AMT miner gets here before my BFL Monarch 1Ts on April 14th Smiley BFL was kind enough to give me extra hash on the miners I ordered (I only ordered 600Gh/s miners). They ALWAYS answer my emails usually less than one hour and know me on a first name basis, and even offered me a refund but I chose the upgrade instead.
now thats what i class as SERVICE.
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April 03, 2014, 04:22:48 PM
I never said that guys...

I'm saying, my ghetto ASS 70+ year old house I am renting, has like 20Amps on one freakin circuit. The 1500W is plenty -.- lol...Just make sure you are plugging into a dedicated circuit...

Stop searching for things to get mad about...lol

I will be posting a video today, of my "ghetto ass house" with me and the machines hashing .I warn you, it may get messy....

~Casey

Before I read any further, please, guys, cut Casey some slack. He's an alright guy. Seriously!

~Bruno Kucinskas
hey man if you are referring to regtable's convo with casey, i do believe their was no bad intentions with his posts, he may go on some rants (regtable) but not a bad guy and doesn't mean any harm or insults he just goes on a bit Smiley
p.s yes there are probably some faults with my english but as usuall i dont care :p
who are you!? my dad? if so can i have a cookie, for correct punctuation?

edited to add squigly dots
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April 03, 2014, 04:22:15 PM
We will see if this AMT miner gets here before my BFL Monarch 1Ts on April 14th Smiley BFL was kind enough to give me extra hash on the miners I ordered (I only ordered 600Gh/s miners). They ALWAYS answer my emails usually less than one hour and know me on a first name basis, and even offered me a full refund but I chose to give them the business and choose the upgrade instead. That's a heads up who bought BFL's its not really known the general public yet. See how well they treat me Smiley
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April 03, 2014, 04:15:23 PM
I never said that guys...

I'm saying, my ghetto ASS 70+ year old house I am renting, has like 20Amps on one freakin circuit. The 1500W is plenty -.- lol...Just make sure you are plugging into a dedicated circuit...

Stop searching for things to get mad about...lol

I will be posting a video today, of my "ghetto ass house" with me and the machines hashing .I warn you, it may get messy....

~Casey

Before I read any further, please, guys, cut Casey some slack. He's an alright guy. Seriously!

~Bruno Kucinskas
hey man if you are referring to regtable's convo with casey, i do believe their was no bad intentions with his posts, he may go on some rants (regtable) but not a bad guy and doesn't mean any harm or insults he just goes on a bit Smiley
p.s yes there are probably some faults with my english but as usuall i dont care :p
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April 03, 2014, 04:10:52 PM
Thanks bruno!

You get your miner you bought working or sold yet? :-P

~Casey
legendary
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April 03, 2014, 03:53:06 PM
I never said that guys...

I'm saying, my ghetto ASS 70+ year old house I am renting, has like 20Amps on one freakin circuit. The 1500W is plenty -.- lol...Just make sure you are plugging into a dedicated circuit...

Stop searching for things to get mad about...lol

I will be posting a video today, of my "ghetto ass house" with me and the machines hashing .I warn you, it may get messy....

~Casey

Before I read any further, please, guys, cut Casey some slack. He's an alright guy. Seriously!

~Bruno Kucinskas
legendary
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April 03, 2014, 02:07:18 PM
Accepting a payment of 1k wouldn't be fair to others, its not about the money its about following some sort of order when shipping these things out.

Hey AMT_ Where's our refund?
There's no "position" for you to be in regarding refunds. If you run a business and the customer is sick of waiting (because there's no delivery at all) then he cancels the order. And you refund. You can't agree or disagree. Just not.
So, again, Hey AMT_ Where's our refund?
"where's the money Lebowski...."
When shipping  this thing out Grin
This things are crap as all know it already
This things can not make roi at all and they are still not shipped
So AMT GIVE the refund to all folks who want it IMMEDIATELY
No ifs ors and excuses
That is the way the US company shall handle the situation
Unless Zipkin has not become Bulgarian already  Grin
 
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April 03, 2014, 01:42:07 PM
Tried calling - instead of the usual "Due to high call volume.... etc" I got a whole TWO rings! And then the lady's voice saying "Please leave a message after the beep!". Go figure.
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April 03, 2014, 01:34:47 PM
I even offered to fly from Austin, Texas, drive over to Haverford personally to pick up my miners for order 899. I also offered to give them an extra $1000 cash in hand (on top of the 12k I spent on the miners) to help them out with their financial troubles (and ensure I got my miners). Can't even get a response from them in any way shape or form... It's as though they don't care about us customers (or their financial situation for that matter).

/facepam

did you think i was lying about these guys?

No, but if I was going to spend 1k on lawyer fees I figured I'd try to circumvent all that by providing them a different kind of incentive to get my miners to me. Looks like lawyers will be getting that money as they would rather go that route instead.

No need, we'll ship your miners soon. Even if you flew from Austin to Philly there's no way you're flying back with two miners. Unless you put them in you're luggage but these are too big to be considered a carryon.

Accepting a payment of 1k wouldn't be fair to others, its not about the money its about following some sort of order when shipping these things out.

Okay great! Could you possibly give me an estimate as to when that will be? I'm also confused how someone in the 1000 order number got their miners before mine (order 899)?

some ppl accepted a kit without a psu meaning theyv got theres first. you are still waiting on a 1500w psu being shipped to amt unless you too opted for a kit. then i do not know

I opted for kits as well as I have many PSU's I can use in the interim...
kk i was un awares of this. give them a call. seems there in
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April 03, 2014, 01:22:04 PM
I even offered to fly from Austin, Texas, drive over to Haverford personally to pick up my miners for order 899. I also offered to give them an extra $1000 cash in hand (on top of the 12k I spent on the miners) to help them out with their financial troubles (and ensure I got my miners). Can't even get a response from them in any way shape or form... It's as though they don't care about us customers (or their financial situation for that matter).

/facepam

did you think i was lying about these guys?

No, but if I was going to spend 1k on lawyer fees I figured I'd try to circumvent all that by providing them a different kind of incentive to get my miners to me. Looks like lawyers will be getting that money as they would rather go that route instead.

No need, we'll ship your miners soon. Even if you flew from Austin to Philly there's no way you're flying back with two miners. Unless you put them in you're luggage but these are too big to be considered a carryon.

Accepting a payment of 1k wouldn't be fair to others, its not about the money its about following some sort of order when shipping these things out.

Okay great! Could you possibly give me an estimate as to when that will be? I'm also confused how someone in the 1000 order number got their miners before mine (order 899)?

some ppl accepted a kit without a psu meaning theyv got theres first. you are still waiting on a 1500w psu being shipped to amt unless you too opted for a kit. then i do not know

I opted for kits as well as I have many PSU's I can use in the interim...
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