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sr. member
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March 28, 2014, 11:18:10 PM
\I'm taking a neutral stance here. They seem to be legit but over their heads. That much is clear. Whatever the case for my part I wont keep making this worse by requesting a refund just yet. Obviously the hardware exists and it obviously works. Sadly we got to find out the way we had to but it is what it is at this point. For my part I am going to make the most of the situation if it gets me my miners. If not well thats a whole other thing, but it sounds likely I will get a miner at some point soon (2 weeks reasonably speaking?)

What I keep telling them is that it is better to give a refund that to actually deliver the units.   

I am willing to guess the money is tied up in the next round of hardware and has been spent OR they mismanaged it. Not sure why they aren't issuing refunds to people requesting them.

Something along those lines yes.
hero member
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Glow Stick Dance!
March 28, 2014, 11:13:48 PM
...And where the hell is Bruno?

nice dinner at Hard Rock


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does not compute
sr. member
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March 28, 2014, 11:11:01 PM
Your customers have simply asked for information, and your typical response is either silence or insults. As a company, or if it is always just josh, you are a serious fucking troll and need to go away. Unfortunately many people trusted you with their money, to PURCHASE something from you. You need to ship those miners. You need to tell people ACCURATELY and WITHOUT LYING when they will ship. All you really had to do was take a few good cell phone pics of your manufacturing facility (bathroom at moms house?) and inventory, posting them to assuage the doubts of your customers.

IF you want to keep being a bitch, keep acting like you have done nothing wrong. If you want to fix things, do the above, and be humble to your customers. Respect begets respect. Don't try to quote that back to me, I don't give a shit. If I was your customer and you treated me like you have with so many others, I'd have been there and taken back my fucking money already. You are amazingly lucky that you haven't pissed off the wrong guy yet.

#I'm rick james, bitch.
sr. member
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March 28, 2014, 11:01:20 PM
And I've now filed my IC3 and FTC complaints.

We have had several of those already.

As a general statement to this wonderful thread of helpful customers - it takes time to make a decent a product that wont break, it also takes money to do that. This industry does not allow for either, again we're working as fast as possible and are almost to the point where we'd like this to be over with already.

Where did that list of questions go?
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March 28, 2014, 10:58:19 PM
That was a typo?  

ROFL. A "typo" that was pointed out time and again and sparked endless discussions since December.  Strangely every Coincraft based product had similar "typo's".  Oh and bitfury based products too, also consuming ~2x what you claimed on the website. Then at some point around February or so, you replaced that typo with another "typo" (600-900W IIRC), and even today its still showing less than what you are claiming today.

Typo my ass.


Either way Puppet, its still economically efficient comparing to other miners on the market. And we are making headway in shipments and really believe that in the next 12 days or so we'll be able to delivery everyone current order. Now that bugs have been solved its a process of ramping up the lines and organizing assembly teams.

And again, anyone that would like to assist is welcome.


If you got weekends for assembly I am all in. I do client work on the weekdays so I need to be taking care of that. But I will happily work a couple of weekends if it helps get more miners to people. PM me if you are interested. I live in the NYC area but a drive to the philly area isnt a big deal to me as I am usually in southern jersey on a regular basis as it is.

Please message [email protected]
legendary
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Anarchy is not chaos.
March 28, 2014, 10:58:05 PM
...And where the hell is Bruno?

I'm in Baltimore, at Rassah's, after having a nice dinner at Hard Rock. It's only ~300 posts to read to get caught up on this epic thread.

Say Hi to Rassah for me. And read your PM's.
sr. member
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March 28, 2014, 10:56:03 PM

Once again, no hard evidence of anything. Just a bunch of hearsay and more delay tactics.

As for Phin, he's officially SOLD OUT.

1. Drives 12 hours and doesn't go to the assembly plant
2. Says AMT and the miners are legit and hashing away (we dont see any of that in the video)
3. Doesn't prove much, other than his word is worth about $5000 (or the cost of a miner)

I suggest everyone file against AMT and forget about receiving their vaporware miners. Even if they can get them out the door soon, why w
I think we should put them out of business while recouping our investment.  


yeah lets all file against them they will subsequently file for bancruptsy and or insolvency and then noone gets money



fraud makes a debt non-chargeoffable. So even if they seek bankruptcy protection they are not cleared of this debt.

Actually if we were an S corp, we would be free of this debt, but since we're a C corp the liability gets transferred back to the three owners of the company and their assets.
vip
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March 28, 2014, 10:54:51 PM
After I heard that they gave a miner away and let someone "jump the line" all bets were off. Who was the lawyer who showed up? I may need his services. I am doing everything in my power right now to get this resolved.

The man drove for a day and a half to prove we real.

But no one here is contesting if you are real or not. We all know you are real, I mean, a real crook...

ROFL.

sr. member
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March 28, 2014, 10:54:39 PM

ok amt i understand why u dont answer on here but why dont u answer e.mails either 30 days with no response is not acceptable you give people no choice but to ask here as you dont reply i understand u are busy but like i say 30 days to 3 different e.mail addressees is not acceptable by any means

We got lawsuits in the works here in the states.  You are from the U.K.  right?  

 I was wondering if you can figure out a parallel lawsuit that goes against that E.U. office that you purchased from.  

For that you would need to contact either Interpol or the international department of the FTC.

http://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/international-consumer-protection

Your miner is shipping next week btw.
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March 28, 2014, 10:50:42 PM


Once again, no hard evidence of anything. Just a bunch of hearsay and more delay tactics.

As for Phin, he's officially SOLD OUT.

1. Drives 12 hours and doesn't go to the assembly plant
2. Says AMT and the miners are legit and hashing away (we dont see any of that in the video)
3. Doesn't prove much, other than his word is worth about $5000 (or the cost of a miner)

I suggest everyone file against AMT and forget about receiving their vaporware miners. Even if they can get them out the door soon, why would you want to continue supporting Joshua/AMT?

I think we should put them out of business while recouping our investment.  



YOU ARE NOT A CLIENT NOR A CUSTOMER - WE HAVE ALSO BANNED YOU FROM PURCHASING OUR MINERS.
legendary
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March 28, 2014, 10:48:55 PM
...And where the hell is Bruno?

I'm in Baltimore, at Rassah's, after having a nice dinner at Hard Rock. It's only ~300 posts to read to get caught up on this epic thread.
hero member
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I know the voices in my head aren't real.
March 28, 2014, 10:45:27 PM
ive been following the AMT diaries and really wanted to get one (tried 3 times) but I think I will have to look at Antminer or even at scrypt/asics.

luck was definitely on your side this time. Antminer sounds like a good choice. if you haven't already figured out, avoid pre-orders Angry
agreed
sr. member
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March 28, 2014, 10:39:24 PM
ive been following the AMT diaries and really wanted to get one (tried 3 times) but I think I will have to look at Antminer or even at scrypt/asics.

luck was definitely on your side this time. Antminer sounds like a good choice. if you haven't already figured out, avoid pre-orders Angry
hero member
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I know the voices in my head aren't real.
March 28, 2014, 10:26:58 PM
ive been following the AMT diaries and really wanted to get one (tried 3 times) but I think I will have to look at Antminer or even at scrypt/asics.
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Glow Stick Dance!
March 28, 2014, 10:26:40 PM

Any particular reason? I've been a customer of pbmining longer than stan. I know cuz he's through my link Cheesy They've been responsive, delivered on their word, and work like a charm. Unlike a lot of other people I can name.

Curious about PBMining myself but I refuse to sign up just so I can see what the price is.

.0075 per GH/s right now. It'll go down in a few days. I think every diff change. They've done well by me.

So about $3750 per THs.  It's nearly the same price as my CA batch Neptune preorder.  Yup, preorder hardware is now officially dead!


Sorry to hijack the thread.
legendary
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Anarchy is not chaos.
March 28, 2014, 10:21:21 PM

Any particular reason? I've been a customer of pbmining longer than stan. I know cuz he's through my link Cheesy They've been responsive, delivered on their word, and work like a charm. Unlike a lot of other people I can name.

Curious about PBMining myself but I refuse to sign up just so I can see what the price is.

.0075 per GH/s right now. It'll go down in a few days. I think every diff change. They've done well by me.
hero member
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Glow Stick Dance!
March 28, 2014, 10:15:09 PM

Any particular reason? I've been a customer of pbmining longer than stan. I know cuz he's through my link Cheesy They've been responsive, delivered on their word, and work like a charm. Unlike a lot of other people I can name.

Curious about PBMining myself but I refuse to sign up just so I can see what the price is.
legendary
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Anarchy is not chaos.
March 28, 2014, 09:38:49 PM
Not to rub salt into anyone's wounds but did you know that right now over at CEX.io you can buy 1THs of cloudmining for just a smidge over $5000 or 10BTC?  And you would be hashing immediately.

Crazy how the tides have turned!  This doesn't bode well for anyone still waiting on a hardware preorder.   Undecided

1th at 5000 will never pay off, even with no power cost.


Just pointing out the fact that preorder 1THs miners are worthless now that you can get immediate cloudmining for the same price.

I just spent 6 BTC about a week ago on a BitMain S2 1THs miner to arrive in April.  And before it arrives, CEX.io prices will probably be lower still.  In-stock is now absolutely the only option!  Even the quick turn-around BitMain/Spondoolies et al. are looking silly if cloudhashing can get close to matching the price.

here's a shameless plug, since we're on cloudmining topic. http://pbmining.com?ref=stanno"    .0075BTC per GH and price drops every week.  5 year contract.

FYI, the ballbag calling himself asprin will give you negative trust for posting those links. he did it to me a few weeks ago.

Any particular reason? I've been a customer of pbmining longer than stan. I know cuz he's through my link Cheesy They've been responsive, delivered on their word, and work like a charm. Unlike a lot of other people I can name.
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March 28, 2014, 08:52:16 PM
AMt_miners I am still waiting for your response, you asked me my order number and didn't respond. Is that what you call customer service?

They have none. It is too difficult for them to train someone and it will take weeks to get that rep up to speed to address simple questions at least that is what was stated a few weeks back via AMT.
legendary
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March 28, 2014, 08:52:00 PM
"(1) 1 in every 8 coincraft A1 chips are claimed to be defective.  Which should not be an issue since you should be able to test a chip before you mount in on the board!"

Not that easy with power BGA devices which pull most of their heat away through the bottom contact balls. The usual ZIF test sockets cannot be used because they are not designed to pull away the heat from full power testing and ya can't just slap a cold-plate on top of the chip but - that is an issue between BM.ch/CoinCraft and Global Foundries who make the chip. Obviously GF was told to not test the chips under load (more expensive), just do limited go/no-go.

Then again, considering it typically cost 50-100million USD to bring a 28nm node chip into production, one would think that maybe 5% more to cover 100% full load burn-in would not have been a bad idea...
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