Topic: Official Thread: AMT - page 88. (Read 678353 times)

Yes and all these miners and less people putting money into it is making the BTC go down in value more and more each day. It will go back up again for sure but soon there will be more miners than dollars being put into "the machine" and the value will be back down to $100 in no time flat.

Thank you for clearing things up. Hats off sir and well played!

So, if I'm reading this right: Josh basically paid you off with a miner to retract your posts and say they are legit in a video, that he shot himself.

Wow, this sounds just like his other business ventures where he manipulates FAKE feedback (via social media and reviews).

The 20 BTC bounty was a lie that you drove across country for, but what was offered was the miner instead. Man, Josh can't even bribe someone without slipping a lie or two in there.

I agree with RICKJAMES, you didn't even see their assembly plant or hardware: and you think they will fulfill these orders. What the fuck? Based on what, a conversation with Josh?

All we have learned from this is that Josh is a compulsive liar and manipulator. Good luck to everyone waiting in the wings for their miner. I wouldn't trust this guy with a loaf of bread.

P.S - Think of this. Josh is crying about how they (AMT) are losing $$$ on these miners, yet he's offers one up (FOR FREE) to a poster here to remove slander and be positive. Wrap your head around THAT bullshit!

1th at 5000 will never pay off, even with no power cost.

Not to rub salt into anyone's wounds but did you know that right now over at CEX.io you can buy 1THs of cloudmining for just a smidge over $5000 or 10BTC?  And you would be hashing immediately.

Crazy how the tides have turned!  This doesn't bode well for anyone still waiting on a hardware preorder.  

Hows about, find a time machine and go back about three or four months and begin telling the truth.

Since I don't believe you are actual capable of anything in the previous sentence, I think the real question here is where does it end?


Typo my ass. this was debated ad nauseum at the beginning of this thread until finally, on Feb 13th You posted this without any other notification to your existing customers that the spec's could not be met.


Everyone who bought a 1.2th/s machine from your website before that date was sold a product based on spec's that cannot be met. That would have been a good time to contact those customers and negotiate either an upgrade to compensate for the misinformation or refund their money.

based on your above stated spec's everyone who ordered a 1.2th/s miner will be receiving a 6 board machine to meet your stated 1.2th/s nominal +/- 10% as nominal speed is 1.1th/s which falls within the stated tolerance.
If on the other hand you only plan on sending 6 board machines to compensate for late deliveries then you are still using deceptive advertising on your website as a 5 board machine will not run 1.2th/s nominal. in fact your website still has deceptive information offering 1.2th/s nominal @900 to 1200 watts when as you stated it is actually 1.1th/s nominal +/- @900 to 1300 watts. you know this information so why not update your website so you can actualy deliver the products people think they are buying?


How exactly will the clients from the 1rst few batches going to be compensated. I very much need to know this to help decide which coarse to take. I don't think it is unreasonable to expect an upgrade to 2.4 th/s for those with an advertized delivery date prior to the middle of February as the energy consumption has doubled to tripled as well as the mining difficulty for all who ordered before that date.



Your MPP clearly states that we will be sent an E-mail prior to the miner shipping to be given the option to upgrade if it wont be able to produce a profit within 6 mo. of the advertized ship date. my orders clearly meet the criteria laid out in your MPP. An upgrade to 2.4th/s machines is not unreasonable, again based on double to triple the advertized energy consumption and double to triple the network difficulty since the time I was supposed to receive my equipment. As I stated in my E-mail that has not been responded to the only 2 acceptable solutions at this point is to upgrade my 3 miners to 2.4th/s or refund my money. orders #676 and 716

ROFL, the bounty wasn't written in stone, just on the internet. Guess what, that was a contract agreed to by both parties. Anyone that trusts these fucking liars deserves what they get. If you aren't immediately filing complaints and lawsuits, you will never get anything back. What a giant scam. Bruno, you didn't even bother to see the manufacturing facility, how can you possibly know what they can or can't make. I'm not some dumb little greedy kid either, with dreams of hitting a jackpot ordering miners. I'm a businessman, have been for a very long time. I can't imagine dealing with a company like this.

Yup... like I said,  better poker player than all of us combined.

Well,  looks like you played that hand pretty well.   Makes all of us look like losers in the poker table.

Yet another lie, as AMT said he purchased the miner.

How is it that a trash talking poster that never even ordered a miner from AMT, somehow receives a miner ahead of everyone else?

It's legit and in the truck.


That's the agreement Josh offered to in essence honor the bounty. In fact, he said that even if some other person brought me in, they, too, wouldn't have received the bounty. It wasn't something written in stone, and just a way to hopefully meet me face-to-face.

The post I need to pen will take a while, thus apologizing, once again, for not providing more details now.

I offer up the following to hold you till then.

AMT does have a viable office and has had since the beginning of the year.

Josh is way over his head with this endeavor.

Josh is not an engineer, just the person orchestrating AMT.

Will you get your miners? I'm leaning heavily to a yes answer. Will it be next week? Only if he ramps up production.

Do I trust him? No. Does he trust me? No.

Did I lie big-time to Josh to give me that demo-miner in their office in lieu of the 20 BTC bounty once I realized that he wasn't going to pay out within the first 5 minutes of our conversation? Yes. Let me repeat that - YES!

Was deleting posts from this thread part of that agreement? Yes.

Josh was concerned that I would have the mods of this forum reinstate my deleted posts. I'm here to state that that will not be the case.

Josh was convinced, and probably still is that I mine. I do not, and have stated such a myriad times on this forum and to others in person, i.e. conference attendees.

Josh wants me to moderate this this thread of AMT's for $1,000/mo. I wouldn't do it for $10,000 USD/mo. I honestly don't believe he would paid me, or any other, for said service regardless of the amount.

I'm 54 years old, thus been around the block a few times. I've had the pleasure of meeting a slew of characters in the construction trade and, moreover, on the poker tables. Being a winning poker player, and knowing full well that poker is NOT a card game play with people, BUT a people game play with cards, I knew exactly what hands Josh holds and plays, and would not even have to look at my hole cards.

Last night, Josh came to the table holding pocket rockets, whereupon I had rags. But, after the flop, turn and river, Josh couldn't play his best hand any longer, and I walked away with the pot, albeit it was heavily raked.

With that, let me share with you two books I've read more than once each: http://www.amazon.com/Beware-Naked-Man-Offers-Shirt/dp/0449911845 and http://www.amazon.com/Sharks-Without-Being-Eaten-Alive/dp/006074281X, both by the same author, of whom who choosed to compete in the envelop business, the first to advertise his product line on...wait for it... the top of trucks, oppose to on the traditional sides.

When I was getting ready to leave, I made a comment about a pineapple. Josh wasn't aware of the reference, thus had to bring him up to speed as to what I was eluding to.

Josh said that Ning Lu, that eBayer selling three miners, does not have possession of the miners, but was allowed to snap the pics to claim such on said listing.

I have a heck of lot more to share, but now under a time constraint.

More to come. I promise.

~Bruno Kucinskas

According to AMT they are coming up with a document for getting the disassembled miner similar to an Antminer S2 I imagine. I have reached out and asked for any details and provided some feedback. They might reply on this. This is not some unreasonable request or hate filled tirade with threats. I was nice about it. So let's see if there is a response.

Honestly if they are willing to provide the miner without the PSU right off the bat, I'm ok with that so long as I get it later or get comped some other way that compensates for that. I would just buy one and use the delivered one as a spare.

I know its popular to be on the haters bandwagon. In fact some of the anger is a bit deserved. I get it. I'm kinda middle of the road here on all this. I want the miners I ordered and they potentially provided a reasonable avenue to getting it a bit faster for everyone. Getting one disassembled (but in a state where I can power it up at the office prior to leaving) is I think a fair compromise. Additionally maybe tossing in some added incentive (value add) to have people go that route as it would go a long way to building some trust and potential return business for some. There are people here who are inconsolable and rightly so can't fault anyone for that. But honestly AMT has made it clear they wont respond to any of that here. Just give them the confirmation numbers of the complaints you filed via email and let them review it. If they still don't reply well you already pretty much told them what you are doing next.

This helps EVERYONE get what they want. They obviously need that number for whatever reason. And those spouting lawyer this lawyer that...that is tantamount to basically holding up a banner in a poker game claiming you have a winning hand (like having 47+ tells in a poker game). You going legal, keep the details to yourself. I'm surprised the lawyer hasn't told you that. You already made your formal requests. Spamming it in a forum is not going to help. Just stating actual facts here. Not flaming or trolling anyone or taking any sides. For quite a few people this is a legal fight now and what you say and do from this point on can impact your case. Just some reasonable advice.

There are avenues to reasonable resolutions to each of our different dilemmas. I'm working on mine provided I get a response back from AMT. I think my response has been reasonable and hopefully I get the same in turn. I gave some feedback on what I thought of the hardware and how it could be improved for gen2.
@AMT you already know my email and order number (1493) I'm not looking to jump ahead on the line just get some of the info I requested. I've also offered to go down and help on weekends for miner building to help some of the people here get their stuff faster. I originally intended on a refund but I really would rather have the hardware at this point. The money is fine but I had more plans for the hardware.

Hopefully this gets some reply one way or the other.

Wish you would share some details of that hour long conversation.

Either way, it sounds like you were paid off.

I'm amazed that you took a miner, knowing that there have been PAYING CUSTOMERS waiting months to receive theirs. Way to do the right thing!

Think about this people: With all the shit Phin posted, Josh singled him out to come up and prove AMT is legit. What does that make me think? Phin struck a cord(s) somewhere along his rants, probably uncovered some truth about Zipkin and his operation - and therefore Zipkin needed to defuse this situation. Something was posted by Phin that rubbed Josh the wrong way, hence this effort to have Phin take it all down. Good job Josh, you did it!

As it is, we've got the thread backed up and will be working on re posting all of this data about you and your sheisty ass company AMT. We aren't going to forget how you've wronged this community, just because someone like Phin was able to take a bribe to reverse his opinion on you & AMT.

ON a final note: it's truly AMAZING that they will go to these great lengths to convince us (shooting video of Phin confessing he's wrong), but STILL no evidence (videos/pictures) of the units hashing. Josh, don't you realize that this is the kind of thing that would PROVE your legitimacy to people? I feel stupid now trying to convince a CON ARTIST to do the right thing.

You guys smell that? Be careful not to step in the BULLSHIT.

This is getting ridiculous  guys. I am planning to start my own preorder scam
Now ask for your money while you still can.
Do yo know how much btc makes the precious amt miner today?
Do you know how much it will be making when you got it if that happens at all?
Basically you have lost everything already. The only thing you have not lost is your dignity. So fuck the miners and look for refund.

Going to need to open up that miner,   remove the heat sink and verify if the board in indeed an AMT manufactured board.

Otherwise,  AMT will need someone to visit their 'manufacturing' facility.

Which begs the question,  how was 'MBlackout' able to visit the manufacturing facility?  Oh, I forgot,  she (Amy) is an insider.

Okay, text or pm if you will be passing via Frederick, MD.   I want to verify for the rest of this thread if the miner is indeed legit.   

The questions have already been posted. How can you possibly delete your negative posts based on seeing a miner in an office, instead of a production facility as expected. What a waste of time. Then to get on video staggering around repeating what Josh feeds you from behind the camera, it is a total joke. I think a lot of us really expected you to go there and get some PI action going, not sell out for a miner and let them take a video of you claiming everything is fine.

That's an excellent route to take to go back basically the way I came in, with the exception of probably heading toward Indy. Tomorrow afternoon would probably be the best time to meet up.


The first thing I need to clear up is that I was on the road all day, then playing cat and mouse with AMT to finally meet up with them after 10PM, then went through this thread to delete a shitload of comments after an hour-long discussion. Thus I look, and sound like shit. Actually, there were two videos, and haven't yet viewed the other one on YT. The second one shows the miner hashing away and Josh explaining the particulars.

More forthcoming. Stay tuned.

~Bruno Kucinskas

I read and comprehend English. English is my first and only language spoken, and i have over 40 years of experience with it. Nowhere in the MPP does it say anything about waiting 6 months to get upgraded.  

The MPP is a false advertisement to dupe people into thinking they'll get an upgraded rig.  Good luck.  You will never see an upgrade.  I haven't and neither has anyone else.