Topic: ***OFFICIAL*** TRUMP COIN PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN DONATION SUPERPAC FUNDER**** (Read 40459 times)

I do not control this thread. Hence https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15649610

Signal7
why not updated block Explorer on the home page in this topic? - http://chain.blockpioneers.info/trump/index.php

Good post,  Just need to mention that people who do not roll up their sleeves when there is work to do also are the first to troll others so they can get a free ride off of other people's hard work that they are witnessing.  Lead follow or get out of the way.  That is why I also got trolled.  Because I was helping this coin.  I have the goods on Hillary, skills for currency acceptance programs (which every economy needs) and captive markets I could turn on to trumpcoin (something most people who do not make markets will ever have (analysis of them is being a spectator)).  At that point in time I believe that is why I got trolled since some people probably were able to figure out who I am by that point and how much of a threat I really am.  I do not expect most of you to believe me on this but I know what the score is today.  After the polls closed I got an endorsement that proves we are getting legit positive feedback so it is time to talk real here with you guys.  I hope you can handle it.  But you are right it is also because I post (they get paid by the post  whereas I pay a price for my posts).  The trolls do not yet know what to think of Dread and how he will affect this coin so he gets a pass from them.  Not really a big deal just worth mentioning that.  As an outsider today as opposed to Treasurer today I will have decidedly less involvement and so this is a win for Hillary until she see's where this project decides to go next.  That is why I offered to keep helping and am doing things today.  I just hope you all can appreciate what exactly the price is that we paid for this trolling and FUD.  

Yes! Unmoderated! Even if the moderator/OP is not as ridiculously oversensitive as chicken65, it's fundamentally anti-free speech if one person can remove comments. Can we instead agree to use the Ignore feature if trolls get (t)rolling?

Please Bitbobb and everyone, do post your opinions. Censoring yourself is not being "professional". Add an "IM(H)O" if you feel something needs to be distinguished as an opinion, but being silent leads only down dystopian roads. Do we want hiveminded robots running this project, or passionate human beings??

Congratulations, Dreadlord, and thanks for having the guts to take on this major responsibility. You've shown yourself to be thoughtful, level headed, and helpful at every turn, and I sincerely believe you're the best man for the job.

Bitbobb, part of the reason you get singled out for trolling is because you (very thoughtfully) take the time to respond to their posts and any perceived slight against you, often in long form. Trolls LOVE this and will never stop coming back for more from you if you indulge them. Best thing to do, at least in a forum setting like this, is completely ignore them and let any observers see them making post after post of FUD with no evidence or backup that can be deleted by moderators later. It looks bad while it's happening (and of course it is), but trying to argue or correct them only makes it worse.

Signal, I am very much in support of a moderated thread for the new ANN. If anything, I personally would like to see this thread moderated more heavily, but that's just me. I'm confident you and the team will do what is best for the coin . I'm not worried about biz as the majority of our newcoiners from that avenue know there is a ton of shitposting and FUD there no matter what and will likely do their own DD before writing it off or buying. With the marketing we have coming, I don't foresee them or other potential investors developing an overly negative view of Trumpcoin. For what it's worth, we also have users running counterFUD on biz as much as possible in that context.

Thanks again to everyone for all their hard work (shoutout to Banzai for the TREMENDOUS new block explorer!) and contributions to Making America (and Crypto!) Great Again!  

Yes, unmoderated threads are fun, but we desperately need a place to work in peace without any chaos.
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I expect this and do not wish to fight it in the least.

I imagine more and more unmoderated rogue threads will surface around here as well. Hell, I may even start some myself.

I just want a place to be able work together productively.

It is good to have that as a back up system.. will prove valuable.

      But we still need a place to get work done.  Right now this thread is like the board of directors (by default) blog.  And people can wander here say they are thinking of buying and then with their questions insert FUD.  It is counter productive when their questions could have been answered if they took the time to read even 2 pages previous to their posting and also then they go on for 10 pages repeating things that were answered after their first post.  In this case I am talking about how PerryL claimed for 8 pages I never offered proof then admitted she missed it and then she dissipated back into the ether with her mission accomplished.  Think about it, it could happen to you.  I am proof.  I was a threat to Hillary.  The more you know.  This P.S.A. brought to you from Bitbobb!

All questions for potential candidates came from Newbies and went toward Bitbobb.  Only Bitbobb got FUD (other than criticisms about Avatar names LOL).  And no one knew Dread was in the running until the vote started.  Does Dread accept the terms and conditions that the rest of us had to agree to publicly before the race began?  I saw that he agreed to sign a federal document after.  What about the rest of it like Dep, Bitinator, and myself agreed to?  Sorry if I missed this somewhere.
     Not butthurt just need to point out irregularities that are verifiable.

     What people say is important just like what they do not say.  I wish this project good luck and look forward to the next newsworthy developments!

It's mostly just shitposting that'll get blasted off the thread so no worries.

I'd rather have it unmoderated but..... Any conversation that gets deleted here will move to /Biz. I think constant /Biz presence drives most of our adoption. Moderation may keep us bumped to the front page.

Obviously someone levelheaded, and there's a good chance we'll set up some formal moderation guidelines to make it as fair as possible.

Depends who's moderating...

I personally feel that a moderated thread is best.

 This is coming from someone who has pledged their sacred honor and life to defending free speech BTW.  However even in this moderated thread I was trolled recently and I feel it has hurt my ability to contribute to this coin.  I have become "controversial" just by participating due to trolls that fly under the radar as well as ones that are known blatant trolls.  Maybe chickens65 enjoyed watching me get trolled and if it was someone else the posts may have been censored sooner I do not know (and I hope I am wrong).  But I am an outsider to this coin (like Trump is to politics).  And yet I got trolled just as bad if not worse than anyone that has ever been on this coin if you consider the recent identity theft via troll box on yobit on the eve of our treasury election with the follow up 10 pages of nonsense here just before voting day (effectively buried our vote in 10 pages of FUD).  People did not know there was a vote and how to find it in so many pages or when it was happening.  So yeah to say the least it is hard to get anything done in the troll environment.  And what good is moderation if the mods do not like you because you make more sense than them or for whatever other reason(s)?  Sorry needs to be said

      I never posted rape sheds but yes that joke (about me) was funny.  I do have a sense of humor.  But throwing attacks around, even funny ones does nothing for the coin.  So what about trolling under the radar as I have seen and we should all acknowledge?  Does it not matter now because it only happened to Bitbobb and we kept away an outsider?  One who potentially could have contributed massively?  Hmmm I hope you will consider this.  We do not really know who these newbies are. 

   I have noticed a serious push back on this coin toward any real progress that will actually make this coin great.
     Now there is a block explorer now you can begin day one today as a serious coin.  So perfect time for new ANN and new thread moderated by someone who actually stops FUD and readjust the radar to catch these newbies who pretend to have good intentions but really are FUdders from our first thread.    

So, the Roadmap will be ready in a week time? But what are the main things community could expect to wait from Roadmap and to help with?

Definitely moderated. It will only get worse the closer to the election we get and we have serious work to do.

No complaints here.

Sounds good to me. Let's get the ball rolling.

This seems pretty cool.   But why would anyone vote for Donald Trump? Isn't he the guy that entices racism in America?
Forget Trump, and lets all vote for Putin !  

https://i.imgur.com/FpLcXTq.jpg

This is my opinion as well. Moderate moderation with a ruleset that only removes blatant trolling and personal attacks against individuals, while still allowing anyone to voice valid opinions and concerns about our mission and our politics.

I like the way you put it... Filter shitposting while allowing and encouraging productive debates.

Does anyone disagree with this?