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Topic: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading - page 327. (Read 723990 times)

legendary
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Hey Raphy

The amount of traffic has been growing, so it's natural that the amount of feature requests and complaints is growing too.  That's only natural, but I understand that it can get tiresome/frustrating as well.

Nevertheless, I feel that I should point out that I get the feeling that you guys still underestimate the importance of communicating with the clients (something that seems to be common for every bitcoin exchange in existence).  Communication should happen through multiple channels (forum message, website message AND email) and sufficiently in advance (a week or so?), especially if the downtime is planned and not due to some DDOS.  People that have margin positions open don't just suddenly want to be cut off from the market, it puts their funds in a lot of risk.  You also can't expect every trader to check the forum every hour.  If sudden downtimes like this, without proper communication happen more in the future, I think a lot of your clients will conclude Bitfinex is unreliable and leave, and I don't want this, because I like Bitfinex.  
Maybe the traffic growth forced you to move quickly, and I appreciate the communication here in the thread, but please in the future :
1) signal downtimes in advance
2) try to be as accurate as possible about the start and finish of the downtime.  (I realize its hard to predict the finish exactly, because complications can always occur, but "there are going to be some downtimes in the next few days" is really too vague for a trader to base his actions on)
3) Communicate the same message through multiple channels: forum, website & email.

PS: I appreciate the post explaining the Bitstamp issues.
 


+1

I agree.
sr. member
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CAT.EX Exchange
What exactly does it take to get verified on there?  On the attachment page it says: government issued ID and proof of address

on the form it asks you for one of the following for id: passport, current eeu member state id or birth certificate...

I have a united states driver's license, which is the only form of government issued state ID i have.  How am i supposed to get verified and have the form notarized?

They need to change that form, because united states people ALL use driver's license as ID.

US driver's license will do.

Thanks

Giancarlo
Bitfinex Team
full member
Activity: 238
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Please chose a file for the ID, a file for the Proof of address and the KYC form scan

^ wtf is this?  I did choose a file.  And someone needs to learn English.  It is CHOOSE, not chose.  chose is past tense.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1007
I asked for a 'Bitstamp fiat ticker' more than a month ago. Got a friendly & positive response from Raphael, but obviously it wasn't implemented in time. In a situation like that of the past week(s), that made trading via bitfinex a risky proposition.

Add to that the useless comment I got from Giancarlo a few pages ago when I said that trading on bitfinex own exchange invokes too much slippage and is therefore no alternative to execution on bitstamp ("just use limit orders", was the imbecile's answer), and I decided a week ago to give bitfinex a rest for now.

Transfered my funds to bitstamp, which is far from perfect as well of course, but at least one problem is taken out of the equation: if you have fiat on bitstamp, you actually have fiat on bitstamp.

Somewhat sad to go, bitfinex is great in many respects. But neither Raphael nor Giancarlo really seem to understand how frustrating the Bitstamp fiat problem really is for traders, otherwise they would have done *something* different about it, and if it only would have been implementing the "fiat ticker" mentioned above.
sr. member
Activity: 240
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They really ought to reopen their connection to MtGox, which has proven more reliable lately than Bitstamp. If you'll recall, they cut off MtGox after the April crash brought down their Gox connection for a day, thinking Bitstamp would be far more reliable. That's not the case any more. They should also add a connection to Btc-e so that even if two exchanges are down simultaneously, there'd still be one to provide liquidity. Of course, if all 3 went down at the same time, everyone is SOL.

For bitfinex to use Mtgox again they would have to wire USD to Mtgox, what happens when they need to withdraw this USD again? They can't.  I don't really understand why anyone uses Mtgox anymore, it doesn't really make sense unless all these people are using Japanese bank accounts or something.

hero member
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Merit: 500
What exactly does it take to get verified on there?  On the attachment page it says: government issued ID and proof of address

on the form it asks you for one of the following for id: passport, current eeu member state id or birth certificate...

I have a united states driver's license, which is the only form of government issued state ID i have.  How am i supposed to get verified and have the form notarized?

They need to change that form, because united states people ALL use driver's license as ID.

I used my DL at bitfinex and it got me verified.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
What exactly does it take to get verified on there?  On the attachment page it says: government issued ID and proof of address

on the form it asks you for one of the following for id: passport, current eeu member state id or birth certificate...

I have a united states driver's license, which is the only form of government issued state ID i have.  How am i supposed to get verified and have the form notarized?

They need to change that form, because united states people ALL use driver's license as ID.
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1001
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They really ought to reopen their connection to MtGox, which has proven more reliable lately than Bitstamp. If you'll recall, they cut off MtGox after the April crash brought down their Gox connection for a day, thinking Bitstamp would be far more reliable. That's not the case any more. They should also add a connection to Btc-e so that even if two exchanges are down simultaneously, there'd still be one to provide liquidity. Of course, if all 3 went down at the same time, everyone is SOL.
Are MtGox's fiat transmitting problems over?  I moved my funds out of Gox because I didn't trust them anymore to be honest.  All sorts of inconsistent bullshit excuses for the wire delays.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
I have funds on bitstamp and bitfinex.  Now you are telling me that if bitstamp is having issues, I should be cut off from the market completely?  Your proposal is much worse than a price swing.

You are right the best option is get the hell out of bitfinex ! So many people on tradingview had problems similar to mine...

Going to btc-e with metatrader4 !
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1001
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Something really needs to be done about this $50 swing in seconds when bitstamp is gone.  Bitstamp was back up and running all well.... with no warning bistamp is gone and price swings violently.

There should be AT LEAST a warning that funds are about to run out on bitstamp or that funds are about to be added on bitstamp... They should talk with bitstamp and get some kind of agreement of when the cash will be added on bitstamp.

with no warning, how can anyone trade?  plus i could totally see insider trading going on with the bitstamp people who are about to add money on bistamp and have a bitfinex account...

We should all have the EXACT same info.

exactly what I was saying... how can we trade in those conditions ? We can't, trade should be frozen as soon as bitstamp is out of the equation !
It's very easy to manipulate the market if you are an insider that know when stamp will be taken out and/or in...

I have funds on bitstamp and bitfinex.  Now you are telling me that if bitstamp is having issues, I should be cut off from the market completely?  Your proposal is much worse than a price swing.
sr. member
Activity: 240
Merit: 250
Hey Raphy

The amount of traffic has been growing, so it's natural that the amount of feature requests and complaints is growing too.  That's only natural, but I understand that it can get tiresome/frustrating as well.

Nevertheless, I feel that I should point out that I get the feeling that you guys still underestimate the importance of communicating with the clients (something that seems to be common for every bitcoin exchange in existence).  Communication should happen through multiple channels (forum message, website message AND email) and sufficiently in advance (a week or so?), especially if the downtime is planned and not due to some DDOS.  People that have margin positions open don't just suddenly want to be cut off from the market, it puts their funds in a lot of risk.  You also can't expect every trader to check the forum every hour.  If sudden downtimes like this, without proper communication happen more in the future, I think a lot of your clients will conclude Bitfinex is unreliable and leave, and I don't want this, because I like Bitfinex.  
Maybe the traffic growth forced you to move quickly, and I appreciate the communication here in the thread, but please in the future :
1) signal downtimes in advance
2) try to be as accurate as possible about the start and finish of the downtime.  (I realize its hard to predict the finish exactly, because complications can always occur, but "there are going to be some downtimes in the next few days" is really too vague for a trader to base his actions on)
3) Communicate the same message through multiple channels: forum, website & email.

PS: I appreciate the post explaining the Bitstamp issues.
 


+1

Anyway I have withdrawn my funds from bitfinex for the time being, but hope to be able to return when these issues have been resolved. (such as the random 'wrong price' error that doesn't let you sell at times - I posted a screenshot of this yesterday and it doesn't seem it was even acknowledged even though it's a serious issue in my opinion.)
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
Something really needs to be done about this $50 swing in seconds when bitstamp is gone.  Bitstamp was back up and running all well.... with no warning bistamp is gone and price swings violently.

There should be AT LEAST a warning that funds are about to run out on bitstamp or that funds are about to be added on bitstamp... They should talk with bitstamp and get some kind of agreement of when the cash will be added on bitstamp.

with no warning, how can anyone trade?  plus i could totally see insider trading going on with the bitstamp people who are about to add money on bistamp and have a bitfinex account...

We should all have the EXACT same info.
I doubt the bitfinex people know exactly when the bitstamp people are going to credit their account.
A ticker for the amount of USD remaining in the bitstamp account would be nice feature though.

Yeah, that's why they need to contact bitstamp and have an agreement where bitstamp lets bitfinex know right before the money is added.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
Something really needs to be done about this $50 swing in seconds when bitstamp is gone.  Bitstamp was back up and running all well.... with no warning bistamp is gone and price swings violently.

There should be AT LEAST a warning that funds are about to run out on bitstamp or that funds are about to be added on bitstamp... They should talk with bitstamp and get some kind of agreement of when the cash will be added on bitstamp.

with no warning, how can anyone trade?  plus i could totally see insider trading going on with the bitstamp people who are about to add money on bistamp and have a bitfinex account...

We should all have the EXACT same info.

exactly what I was saying... how can we trade in those conditions ? We can't, trade should be frozen as soon as bitstamp is out of the equation !
It's very easy to manipulate the market if you are an insider that know when stamp will be taken out and/or in...
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1001
₪``Campaign Manager´´₪
Something really needs to be done about this $50 swing in seconds when bitstamp is gone.  Bitstamp was back up and running all well.... with no warning bistamp is gone and price swings violently.

There should be AT LEAST a warning that funds are about to run out on bitstamp or that funds are about to be added on bitstamp... They should talk with bitstamp and get some kind of agreement of when the cash will be added on bitstamp.

with no warning, how can anyone trade?  plus i could totally see insider trading going on with the bitstamp people who are about to add money on bistamp and have a bitfinex account...

We should all have the EXACT same info.
I doubt the bitfinex people know exactly when the bitstamp people are going to credit their account.
A ticker for the amount of USD remaining in the bitstamp account would be nice feature though.
full member
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Or a live ticker of the amount of money/bitcoins remaining on bitstamp.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
Something really needs to be done about this $50 swing in seconds when bitstamp is gone.  Bitstamp was back up and running all well.... with no warning bistamp is gone and price swings violently.

There should be AT LEAST a warning that funds are about to run out on bitstamp or that funds are about to be added on bitstamp... They should talk with bitstamp and get some kind of agreement of when the cash will be added on bitstamp.

with no warning, how can anyone trade?  plus i could totally see insider trading going on with the bitstamp people who are about to add money on bistamp and have a bitfinex account...

We should all have the EXACT same info.
legendary
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You guys are totally nuts. How you dare to open margin position when 1) bitfinex is going to be down for maintenance and 2) there is a difference of 40+ with bitstamp price which can be closed at anytime Huh?

Don't come later here to cry...

I didn't know that was the case.  Raphael told me they put $2m on bitstamp, so I thought everything was good.  There was no maintenance, it happened yesterday.  I'm talking about today, I literally lost 75 % of my bitcoins recently.
sr. member
Activity: 476
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I'm annoying ? wtf ? You mad or what man ? I've got all rights to be pissed as a paying customer getting very low quality service...
legendary
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₪``Campaign Manager´´₪
Not being able to buy on bitstamp is going to cost me a fortune very soon !!
Dude, you are annoying.  They are trying to make this work as best as they can.  Stop waving your fist in anger whenever you believe you are entitled to all sorts of things.  If you don't like the service, go to another exchange.
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