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OgNasty

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Quote from: Lauda on August 04, 2017, 03:25:55 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on August 04, 2017, 03:08:53 AM

threatened to leave me negative trust

Source, evidence for this claim?

You countered a trust rating without even reading the reference link? Another example of why I don't trust your ratings...

Quote from: Lauda on August 04, 2017, 03:25:55 AM

Hellot's negative rating does not affect your trust score. This can not be said for your rating on him.

Irrelevant.

Quote from: Lauda on August 04, 2017, 03:25:55 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on August 04, 2017, 03:08:53 AM

This is yet another example of attempted bullying via extortion (send BTC to this address or else...) and considering you, Lauda, were already fired as a staff member of this forum for extorting users, it is no surprise you stand up for others who engage in the same behavior.

Ad hominem? False equivalency? Nice argument.

No, this is called explanation of a hypothesis using facts.

Quote from: Lauda on August 04, 2017, 03:25:55 AM

Personal vendettas? Maybe you need to take a better look in the mirror. You are using this as an excuse for the invalid exclusion of several people (surprise, surprise?). You have countered several of my ratings whilst attempting to make them look like valid ratings (in that form, they are not). Let's not play the pretend game when your play is quite obvious. Roll Eyes

Sounds like you're paranoid and making false allegations. You are the one who has stated you counter my ratings, not the other way around.

There's really no reason for this petty bickering. I did nothing wrong. That is clear for everyone to see. Refunding a sending address with a user's consent is perfectly reasonable and the fact that it turned into this public display should be enough for any reasonable person to determine what is really going on here. I'd like for that to be my last comment on this subject.

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Terminated.

Quote from: OgNasty on August 04, 2017, 03:08:53 AM

Hellot, who was in no way involved in the escrow

It is not relevant whether he was involved or not.

Quote from: OgNasty on August 04, 2017, 03:08:53 AM

threatened to leave me negative trust

Source, evidence for this claim? Your rating does not even explicitly mention any threats, which makes no sense whatsoever. If someone is threatening you directly and you leave them a negative rating, then it needs to be properly written to reflect on that.

Quote from: OgNasty on August 04, 2017, 03:08:53 AM

If anyone's negative deserves to be countered, it is his.

Hellot's negative rating does not affect your trust score. This can not be said for your rating on him.

Quote from: OgNasty on August 04, 2017, 03:08:53 AM

That is clear to anyone.

Doubtful.

Quote from: OgNasty on August 04, 2017, 03:08:53 AM

Ad hominem? False equivalency? Nice argument.

Quote from: OgNasty on August 04, 2017, 03:08:53 AM

This is just another example of why I don't trust your ratings, and feel that your personal vendettas are absolutely ruining any shred of credibility you may have once had.

OgNasty

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Quote from: Lauda on August 04, 2017, 02:40:12 AM

I have left a counter rating, which is the appropriate use of the trust system

Hellot, who was in no way involved in the escrow threatened to leave me negative trust unless I broke my publicly stated escrow rules and sent funds to an unsafe address, which if I had done so we all know would have resulted in me being accused of aiding a scam and told that I owe the funds. So I got the escrow user's approval to refund the sending address, which I did. If anyone's negative deserves to be countered, it is his. That is clear to anyone. This is yet another example of attempted bullying via extortion (send BTC to this address or else...) and considering you, Lauda, were already fired as a staff member of this forum for extorting users, it is no surprise you stand up for others who engage in the same behavior. This is just another example of why I don't trust your ratings, and feel that your personal vendettas are absolutely ruining any shred of credibility you may have once had.

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Quote from: isoneguy on July 26, 2017, 07:47:57 PM

coinbase is silent...
and you can twist my words however you'd like. I still haven't received any money back.

Must really suck to be you, huh ? Not having control of your own keys ?

Lesson learned, buttercup.

Kiss

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Terminated.

Whilst I have no plan on commenting this mess, I do have to step in here:

Quote from: Hellot on August 03, 2017, 12:18:07 PM

Looks like OGNasty decided to give me negative feedback for honestly evaluating this scam accusation.

This is not appropriate use of the trust system, and I strongly disagree with ruining your trust score based on your opinion on this accusation. I have left a counter rating, which is the appropriate use of the trust system¹:

Quote from: shorena on February 01, 2017, 06:16:38 AM

Counter-Ratings like yours (even though you didnt word it as such) are part of how the system works. If someone thinks my rating was given unjustified they can leave an additional rating to reflect this.

This is exactly the kind of abuse that I was briefly discussing in another thread, where people try to make their rating valid/warranted by masking it with the wording "I don't trust this user" (and similar modifications).
¹: I can't find the original quote from theymos.
Disclaimer: Before someone accuses Hellot of being in some sort of "group", or me of having bias towards them, I don't think I have ever talked to Hellot privately in the past.

Hellot

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Looks like OGNasty decided to give me negative feedback for honestly evaluating this scam accusation. I'm not going to argue it beyond this post and this is just for the record. If you looked through this on your own you will see OG has been childish and petty. He has put his emotions above professionalism. He risked a customers funds out of spite and refuses to take any responsibility for how he handled his customers money. Really that is all this boils down to and all that matters. All of the other bullshit aside, OGNasty mishandled a customers money and as an escrow, you do not do that.

Here is my negative feedback from OG.

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Hellot sent me repeated PMs trying to get me to release funds to an address provided by a suspected compromised account until I was forced to block him. He continues to claim I acted incorrectly when I followed my publicly stated rules, refunding the sending address of my escrow service within 24 hours per the user's and Hellot's public request to ensure the funds were returned back to their rightful owner. I showed my escrow rules were publicly stated prior to entering the agreement but that was still not enough for Hellot. I can only conclude this user is irrational and I would not trust him with my funds.

I'll again point out that I offered to cover OG in case the OP was a scammer and he did not take me up on it. I was trying to help OG because I looked at it and saw he was being irrational as well as the customer. OG has at no point offered any evidence that he had reason to believe the OPs account was compromised. Again he is using his rules as an excuse to act unprofessional and he is using his standing in the community to bully. At no point does this negative trust show that I am a scammer or unreliable in any way. Maybe someone else in the community cares enough to say something. I'll end it here.

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Quote from: Xinarae* on July 26, 2017, 08:11:55 PM

Coinbase has no business to take care of you problem, There is still have another some important to do than you Roll Eyes

Please don't shitpost just so you can be paid in your signature campaign.

If you are going to shitpost, at least make some sense when you do it..

Roll Eyes

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Quote from: BobLawblaw on July 26, 2017, 08:09:08 PM

Quote from: isoneguy on July 26, 2017, 07:47:57 PM

coinbase is silent...
and you can twist my words however you'd like. I still haven't received any money back.

Must really suck to be you, huh ? Not having control of your own keys ?

Lesson learned, buttercup.

Kiss

Coinbase has no business to take care of you problem, There is still have another some important to do than you Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Spoetnik on July 26, 2017, 07:33:38 PM

You agreed.
So your topic title is pure retardation.
Further more you talk little of how it's been going with Coinbase.
For all we know you got your money long ago.

coinbase is silent...

and you can twist my words however you'd like. I still haven't received any money back.

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You agreed.
So your topic title is pure retardation.
Further more you talk little of how it's been going with Coinbase.
For all we know you got your money long ago.

isoneguy

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Quote from: RHavar on July 26, 2017, 12:40:03 PM

Quote from: isoneguy on July 26, 2017, 12:07:23 PM

I still don't have my $680

wait...that's $630 now due to OG's mishandling of my funds.

It's good to know that OG will make your money worth less.

...you quite literally told him to do it

Quote from: OgNasty on July 23, 2017, 02:05:38 AM

Do you want me to release escrow to the sending address?

YES or NO?

Quote from: isoneguy on July 23, 2017, 02:07:56 AM

how many ways do I have to say yes?

If you hadn't explicitly told him to do it, then I would agree with you that OGNasty needs to be more flexible and accept alternate proof (such as the tlsnotary from your coinbase account showing the send) or what ever. However that's not what happened here, you gave instructions for him to release the funds to the sending address and he did so. It's pretty clear cut.

Imagine the opposite happened: You told him to return-to-sender and he refused. Then you'd be crying scam, and would have a right to do so.

I told him to do other things first. Which he didn't do.

I also didn't tell him specifically which is odd as he refused non specific replies before.

I understand that he wanted to make an example of someone but if an escrow intentionally chooses a path that makes his client less wealthy then people should really re-consider letting him handle their funds.

I have still not received the BTC I entrusted to OGnasty back.

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Quote from: isoneguy on July 26, 2017, 12:07:23 PM

I still don't have my $680

wait...that's $630 now due to OG's mishandling of my funds.

It's good to know that OG will make your money worth less.

...you quite literally told him to do it

Quote from: OgNasty on July 23, 2017, 02:05:38 AM

Do you want me to release escrow to the sending address?

YES or NO?

Quote from: isoneguy on July 23, 2017, 02:07:56 AM

how many ways do I have to say yes?

isoneguy

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Quote from: TMAN on July 26, 2017, 09:39:09 AM

OG has in no way been compromised - say what you want about him, but he has proven his opsec game is strong..

OG is a prized dick head though, he has gone out of his way to stop the client receiving his funds in a timely manner, there are multiple ways OG could of helped his escrow client out here, there are plenty of people who have dealt with OP and could assist - another escrow even offered to take the burden of the escrow from OG, Hellot offered to cover OG against any scam attempt.

but.. the stubborn always right attitude of OG... the same bloke who went all in on BFL and cost his nasty fans hundreds and hundreds of BTC losses - the OG who has 0 customer service skills..

I still don't have my $680

wait...that's $630 now due to OG's mishandling of my funds.

It's good to know that OG will make your money worth less.

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Exchange Bitcoin quickly-https://blockchain.com.do

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Quote from: Wendigo on July 25, 2017, 12:54:47 PM

OP's coins apparently got sent to some random address and got lost.

OP sounds like a bigger bundle of sticks than I am.

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Quote from: Pearls Before Swine on July 25, 2017, 07:26:24 PM

Quote from: Wendigo on July 25, 2017, 12:58:01 AM

mammabitcoin2u wants some green trust obviously. Or has a lot of free time to bicker around for nothing.

Or maybe he's my alt. Or maybe I'm an alt of wendigo. Lol
You blow a lot of smoke, guy, even though your command of the English language is formidable.
Glad this whole issue is dying down a bit. Hope OP solves his issue, which is now a coinbase problem
and not an ognasty problem.

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Quote from: isoneguy on July 25, 2017, 09:36:46 PM

It's an OGnasty problem until it's resolved.

And then ripples you know? My 680$ is worth less now :/

You really need to give it a rest. He doesn't have your money -- and not only did exactly what he promised to do, he only did it after you explicitly authorized the refund to the sending address and were clearly aware of potential risks. Even if the money is 100% irrecoverable (which I highly doubt), that is totally on you.

I have no lost love for OG (and you'll see, I've excluded him from my trust network), but he really is blameless in this situation and your attacks on him are unfair and bordering on unhinged.

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Quote from: isoneguy on July 25, 2017, 11:01:21 AM

Apparently he gave away .25 of his BTC...yes.
I'm still waiting for him to return .25BTC of mine.

He returned to the sending address. How did you not receive your funds back ?

isoneguy

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Quote from: Pearls Before Swine on July 25, 2017, 07:26:24 PM

Quote from: Wendigo on July 25, 2017, 12:58:01 AM

mammabitcoin2u wants some green trust obviously. Or has a lot of free time to bicker around for nothing.

It's an OGnasty problem until it's resolved.

And then ripples you know? My 680$ is worth less now :/