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Pearls Before Swine

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Quote from: Wendigo on July 25, 2017, 12:58:01 AM

mammabitcoin2u wants some green trust obviously. Or has a lot of free time to bicker around for nothing.

Or maybe he's my alt. Or maybe I'm an alt of wendigo. Lol
You blow a lot of smoke, guy, even though your command of the English language is formidable.
Glad this whole issue is dying down a bit. Hope OP solves his issue, which is now a coinbase problem
and not an ognasty problem.

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Quote from: BobLawblaw on July 25, 2017, 12:34:23 PM

Quote from: isoneguy on July 25, 2017, 11:01:21 AM

Apparently he gave away .25 of his BTC...yes.
I'm still waiting for him to return .25BTC of mine.

He returned to the sending address. How did you not receive your funds back ?

Because the sending address was allegedly a Coinbase wallet address and OG sent the coins back to that address. OP's coins apparently got sent to some random address and got lost. Probably sent in a ticket and waiting for assistance from Coinbase in order to recover the funds.

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I've to say, after reading all of this and just 1 day watching how you go through the sell section, ofc you are bat crazy bro.

OGnasty should have made you use a GPG to proove your identity, he has a point on the security stand point, that he did not give you the rules beforehand (maybe he did im not sure) its a mistake, that you did not look for them, its also a mistake, that you do NOT understand to send the funds to the address which was sent from.. its just irrational, try using GPG and understand someone's rule, I'm sorry you have to go through all this trouble, but going bat shit crazy to get your money is not the way to go. I'm still waiting for a 2.5 ETHER deposit on YUNBI exchange and I've not killed my self lol

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Quote from: BobLawblaw on July 25, 2017, 02:02:21 AM

Quote from: Hellot on July 25, 2017, 12:55:30 AM

Is OG out any funds? The OP appears to be. I don't even like the OP! Wake me if you can contradict my feedback.

Unless I misunderstood things, I thought OG was out ~0.25 BTC.

Apparently he gave away .25 of his BTC...yes.

I'm still waiting for him to return .25BTC of mine.

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To be an escrow is a big responsability, just like it's to be a judge or a referee. Our curent technology can't replace the human judgement, this is why we still need them (regardless if it's a tenis match or judging a crime).
The act of judging can't be replaced with technology because it's not just about following a fixed set of rules (this is what computers do best, follow a fixed set of rulles) but in real life we must always account for the circumstances.

It's very sad that a user (regardless of his caracther) had payed for a service so in case anything go wrong with the transaction, his funds will be protected, but in the end he lost his funds. Isn't this the real purpose of using an escrow, to protect the parties involved in the transaction in case something goes wrong?

In my opinion, this could have been managed in a more profesional way.

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Quote from: Hellot on July 25, 2017, 12:55:30 AM

Is OG out any funds? The OP appears to be. I don't even like the OP! Wake me if you can contradict my feedback.

Unless I misunderstood things, I thought OG was out ~0.25 BTC.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 23, 2017, 02:05:38 AM

Do you want me to release escrow to the sending address?

YES or NO?

Highly unprofessional way of resolving this..
Seems almoust like a bot with a total lack of human judgement and willigness to help.

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I still don't see how you think OP is trying to scam, he just wants his money back. This topic is filled with bullshit and false accusations. I'm sure Coinbase will answer the ticket and resolve this. If not, we can continue all the mud slinging.

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Quote from: Wendigo on July 25, 2017, 12:58:01 AM

mammabitcoin2u wants some green trust obviously. Or has a lot of free time to bicker around for nothing.

I have the next 30 days to piss off. I can afford it like that Wink

I'm watching Big Brother on my Big Screen in my Big Comfy Chair and pissing on the internet, including here. Figuring out whether to piss $ at the casino tomorrow or maybe buy some things. IDK have any ideas? It may rain here though.

I don't want need or have use for "trust". I think that "trust" stuff is bullshit, I've said it since I've been here. Go back over my history (im sure you did Wink

)

Dayum right I'll stick up for anyone against a scam. Thanks for noticing though..........not Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Hellot on July 25, 2017, 12:55:30 AM

Is OG out any funds? The OP appears to be. I don't even like the OP! Wake me if you can contradict my feedback.

Now you got 1 FACT and 1 ASSUMPTION appears

You know for a FACT OG sent the funds.

Can you tell me for a FACT you know OP did not get the funds? You can't you don't know you are just assuming, appearing whatever words you don't know except for what you are told.

This is cutting in to my Big Brother After Dark Angry

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mammabitcoin2u wants some green trust obviously. Or has a lot of free time to bicker around for nothing.

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Quote from: mammabitcoin2u on July 25, 2017, 12:48:05 AM

Quote from: Spoetnik on July 25, 2017, 12:16:34 AM

Quote from: Timelord2067 on July 24, 2017, 09:42:34 PM

Quote from: isoneguy on July 23, 2017, 01:33:35 AM

at least I'm willing to admit I'm an asshole

Archived for future reference: http://archive.is/TzasL#selection-4305.30-4304.1

I would have archived the veiled death threat LOL
Bob beat me to it.

I see a grey area a bit *maybe.
Like QuickSeller was pointing out..
I think this guy has made his problem far worse by having such a horrendous attitude.
Had he been "nice" he may have gotten a better result.

I never used an escrow ever once.
I have no dog in this race but i side with Nasty.

At the end of the day this guy got his refund but may have to bug Coinbase about it.
So what is the problem ?
Did Coinbase say they won't give it back ?

What is with all the drama ?

I been archiving this. His attitude got nothing to do with having funds returned back. His attitude is what dragged it out and still continues. But according to OP he's gotta ticket with Coinbase. Not my problem Coinbase got OP's $ not OG Cheesy

Better watch out or else OP gonna say you owe him now Cheesy

This drama.....it's just some way of scamming funds with a cherry of discrediting OG and the kicker - other's wanting his spot. That's all I'm getting.

I never really trusted anyone on this board, not even OG. I think early on, I've even posted that. But after this I can honestly say, I do trust him. Which leads me to looking at what he's got going on.........nastyfans seats n what not. Super cool Green Project. I just need some time/research if it's for me.

@Hellot, The "human interaction" has nothing to do with this. This is about OP being refunded and it was done. You think? Macy's is gonna use some "human interaction" and forget the rules of a receipt?

OK how about this: Why do you believe the funds should go elsewhere, NOT the originating address? Because you said so and AFTER it happened? Because of Coinbase? Why because Coinbase won't return funds?

Is OG out any funds? The OP appears to be. I don't even like the OP! Wake me if you can contradict my feedback.

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Quote from: Spoetnik on July 25, 2017, 12:16:34 AM

Quote from: Timelord2067 on July 24, 2017, 09:42:34 PM

Quote from: isoneguy on July 23, 2017, 01:33:35 AM

at least I'm willing to admit I'm an asshole

Archived for future reference: http://archive.is/TzasL#selection-4305.30-4304.1

I would have archived the veiled death threat LOL
Bob beat me to it.

I see a grey area a bit *maybe.
Like QuickSeller was pointing out..
I think this guy has made his problem far worse by having such a horrendous attitude.
Had he been "nice" he may have gotten a better result.

I never used an escrow ever once.
I have no dog in this race but i side with Nasty.

At the end of the day this guy got his refund but may have to bug Coinbase about it.
So what is the problem ?
Did Coinbase say they won't give it back ?

What is with all the drama ?

I been archiving this. His attitude got nothing to do with having funds returned back. His attitude is what dragged it out and still continues. But according to OP he's gotta ticket with Coinbase. Not my problem Coinbase got OP's $ not OG Cheesy

Better watch out or else OP gonna say you owe him now Cheesy

This drama.....it's just some way of scamming funds with a cherry of discrediting OG and the kicker - other's wanting his spot. That's all I'm getting.

I never really trusted anyone on this board, not even OG. I think early on, I've even posted that. But after this I can honestly say, I do trust him. Which leads me to looking at what he's got going on.........nastyfans seats n what not. Super cool Green Project. I just need some time/research if it's for me.

@Hellot, The "human interaction" has nothing to do with this. This is about OP being refunded and it was done. You think? Macy's is gonna use some "human interaction" and forget the rules of a receipt?

OK how about this: Why do you believe the funds should go elsewhere, NOT the originating address? Because you said so and AFTER it happened? Because of Coinbase? Why because Coinbase won't return funds?

Spoetnik

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Just want to point out the topic title here is retarded bullshit.

Hellot

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Quote from: mammabitcoin2u on July 25, 2017, 12:21:45 AM

Quote from: Hellot on July 25, 2017, 12:09:38 AM

~snip
Please don't take offense. Your reply doesn't in any way show that my assessment is contrary to the facts and in fact your reply relies on a lot of assumption. Unless you can disprove what I have said in my negative trust I will not remove it.

Nothing offends me, just stones, these are just words. I'm not asking you to remove it. I asked to fix it. Your assessment is not on the facts. They are here, everyone can see them. Yet you are ignoring them and relying on your "feelings". Maybe you are in a different country and do things differently there? idk

X came from A and X was returned to A...............that's just the facts you don't want to see.

You can try and dumb this down to x money went to x address but that ignores the reality of two people doing business. It completely abstracts the human interaction which I think you would only do if you wanted for some reason to ignore it. I haven't been ignoring it and you haven't been either but now you want to, why?

Just to re-iterate the facts here.

Quote

OGNasty mishandled customer funds by knowingly refunding an address the customer does not control. OGNasty does not make his escrow rules available to the customer before doing business and expects you to find them on your own. Make sure you know his rules or he will fuck you with them if he doesn't like you. This is unprofessional behavior from someone running a service. You have been warned!

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Quote from: Hellot on July 25, 2017, 12:09:38 AM

~snip
Please don't take offense. Your reply doesn't in any way show that my assessment is contrary to the facts and in fact your reply relies on a lot of assumption. Unless you can disprove what I have said in my negative trust I will not remove it.

Nothing offends me, just stones, these are just words. I'm not asking you to remove it. I asked to fix it. Your assessment is not on the facts. They are here, everyone can see them. Yet you are ignoring them and relying on your "feelings". Maybe you are in a different country and do things differently there? idk

X came from A and X was returned to A...............that's just the facts you don't want to see.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on July 24, 2017, 09:42:34 PM

Quote from: isoneguy on July 23, 2017, 01:33:35 AM

at least I'm willing to admit I'm an asshole

Archived for future reference: http://archive.is/TzasL#selection-4305.30-4304.1

I would have archived the veiled death threat LOL
Bob beat me to it.

I see a grey area a bit *maybe.
Like QuickSeller was pointing out..
I think this guy has made his problem far worse by having such a horrendous attitude.
Had he been "nice" he may have gotten a better result.

I never used an escrow ever once.
I have no dog in this race but i side with Nasty.

At the end of the day this guy got his refund but may have to bug Coinbase about it.
So what is the problem ?
Did Coinbase say they won't give it back ?

What is with all the drama ?

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Quote from: mammabitcoin2u on July 25, 2017, 12:06:06 AM

Quote from: Hellot on July 24, 2017, 11:52:23 PM

Quote from: mammabitcoin2u on July 24, 2017, 11:37:44 PM

3-Your feedback is incorrect and false, please fix it and make it accurate

Show me exactly how it is false and I will fix it. Your feedback: OGNasty mishandled customer funds by knowingly refunding an address the customer does not control. Mishandled means he didn't follow the rules of an escrow, released funds w/o authorization, released funds to someone elses wallet. OG stuck to the rules and he is catching hell for sticking with it. OGNasty does not make his escrow rules available to the customer before doing business and expects you to find them on your own. How are the rules not available if you are seeking a service you search and read the post and then possibly proceed. Just because I know he does escrow, doesn't mean I'm going to blindly say, Hey OG here's some $ be an escrow for me. It is on the consumer to know the policy, I'm sure its (I haven't looked) but would be the 1st page. Make sure you know his rules or he will fuck you with them if he doesn't like you. How can you claim that? Although OP is nutty, and I dislike a liar, I wouldn't screw him on something (but then again I wouldn't ever deal with em) This is unprofessional behavior from someone running a service. You have been warned!

I'll address what is actually relevant here. You also take the position that the responsibility lies with the customer. I do not agree that 100% of the responsibility is on the customer. The service provider has a responsibility to state the rules or try and make sure they are known. No where is that apparent here. The OP has stated it didn't happen and I'm tired of repeating it. This is completely ignoring the real problem here. The escrow pushed for a solution they knew was bad or not ideal at best. OP appears to still not have their money. Why would you do that if you are looking out for your customer? I'll also remind you he has provided no proof that he had cause to believe the OPs account was compromised.

1st you probably missed the quote from OP while responding.

2nd I'm in USA and that's how it works here. Ex. I hurry and jump on a bus and pay the fare. THEN I realize I'm on the wrong bus. The bus driver should give me a refund? Absolutely not. But we aren't talking about that. We are talking about something that HAS been REFUNDED & tx provided.

Based on what's been said here by OP, 5x, it is reasonable to infer OP knows the rules.

The escrow had to pin him down to finally say........send it back to where it came from. The OP went off on a tangent all over the board instead. YET finally OP clearly and without a doubt says send it back and it was done.

OP "appears" to still not have their funds: 1-so OP claims again, OP cannot be believed, if you want to believe that that's on you. 2-That's Coinbase responsibility and OP states he sent in a ticket.

Who cares if his account WAS/WAS NOT hacked. The POINT IS funds came from XXXXXX and returned to XXXXX.

Please don't take offense. Your reply doesn't in any way show that my assessment is contrary to the facts and in fact your reply relies on a lot of assumption. Unless you can disprove what I have said in my negative trust I will not remove it.

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Quote from: Hellot on July 24, 2017, 11:52:23 PM

Quote from: mammabitcoin2u on July 24, 2017, 11:37:44 PM

3-Your feedback is incorrect and false, please fix it and make it accurate

Show me exactly how it is false and I will fix it. Your feedback: OGNasty mishandled customer funds by knowingly refunding an address the customer does not control. Mishandled means he didn't follow the rules of an escrow, released funds w/o authorization, released funds to someone elses wallet. OG stuck to the rules and he is catching hell for sticking with it. OGNasty does not make his escrow rules available to the customer before doing business and expects you to find them on your own. How are the rules not available if you are seeking a service you search and read the post and then possibly proceed. Just because I know he does escrow, doesn't mean I'm going to blindly say, Hey OG here's some $ be an escrow for me. It is on the consumer to know the policy, I'm sure its (I haven't looked) but would be the 1st page. Make sure you know his rules or he will fuck you with them if he doesn't like you. How can you claim that? Although OP is nutty, and I dislike a liar, I wouldn't screw him on something (but then again I wouldn't ever deal with em) This is unprofessional behavior from someone running a service. You have been warned!

I'll address what is actually relevant here. You also take the position that the responsibility lies with the customer. I do not agree that 100% of the responsibility is on the customer. The service provider has a responsibility to state the rules or try and make sure they are known. No where is that apparent here. The OP has stated it didn't happen and I'm tired of repeating it. This is completely ignoring the real problem here. The escrow pushed for a solution they knew was bad or not ideal at best. OP appears to still not have their money. Why would you do that if you are looking out for your customer? I'll also remind you he has provided no proof that he had cause to believe the OPs account was compromised.

1st you probably missed the quote from OP while responding.

2nd I'm in USA and that's how it works here. Ex. I hurry and jump on a bus and pay the fare. THEN I realize I'm on the wrong bus. The bus driver should give me a refund? Absolutely not. But we aren't talking about that. We are talking about something that HAS been REFUNDED & tx provided.

Based on what's been said here by OP, 5x, it is reasonable to infer OP knows the rules.

The escrow had to pin him down to finally say........send it back to where it came from. The OP went off on a tangent all over the board instead. YET finally OP clearly and without a doubt says send it back and it was done.

OP "appears" to still not have their funds: 1-so OP claims again, OP cannot be believed, if you want to believe that that's on you. 2-That's Coinbase responsibility and OP states he sent in a ticket.

Who cares if his account WAS/WAS NOT hacked. The POINT IS funds came from XXXXXX and returned to XXXXX.

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Quote from: mammabitcoin2u on July 24, 2017, 11:37:44 PM

3-Your feedback is incorrect and false, please fix it and make it accurate

Show me exactly how it is false and I will fix it. Your feedback: OGNasty mishandled customer funds by knowingly refunding an address the customer does not control. Mishandled means he didn't follow the rules of an escrow, released funds w/o authorization, released funds to someone elses wallet. OG stuck to the rules and he is catching hell for sticking with it. OGNasty does not make his escrow rules available to the customer before doing business and expects you to find them on your own. How are the rules not available if you are seeking a service you search and read the post and then possibly proceed. Just because I know he does escrow, doesn't mean I'm going to blindly say, Hey OG here's some $ be an escrow for me. It is on the consumer to know the policy, I'm sure its (I haven't looked) but would be the 1st page. Make sure you know his rules or he will fuck you with them if he doesn't like you. How can you claim that? Although OP is nutty, and I dislike a liar, I wouldn't screw him on something (but then again I wouldn't ever deal with em) This is unprofessional behavior from someone running a service. You have been warned!

I'll address what is actually relevant here. You also take the position that the responsibility lies with the customer. I do not agree that 100% of the responsibility is on the customer. The service provider has a responsibility to state the rules or try and make sure they are known. No where is that apparent here. The OP has stated it didn't happen and I'm tired of repeating it. This is completely ignoring the real problem here. The escrow pushed for a solution they knew was bad or not ideal at best. OP appears to still not have their money. Why would you do that if you are looking out for your customer? I'll also remind you he has provided no proof that he had cause to believe the OPs account was compromised.

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