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Topic: ~OgNasty's self scratching - page 8. (Read 2778 times)

legendary
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December 06, 2020, 07:04:10 PM
#15
This is going to betray some serious stupidity on my part, but I didn't realize you could do something like that to your advantage, i.e., making DT2 members out of those who've left you positive trust, thereby boosting your trust score.

Has the method of counting trust scores changed?  I'm certain I've seen where a user has two or more trust feedback from the same user and the reciepient appears to have 20, 30 whatever scores reflecting (instead of counting just one from each person) - (and I'm talking about on the Forum pages, not the BPIP site)




Another example of how you can boost your personal score is to become and admin or mod and then start moving threads backwards and forth leaving "this thread has been moved to section." posts.

An example of that is Lauda's early posts (into the hundreds, if not thousands) are like that. e.g. LINK Archive [1a], [1b]

Something for the BPIP team to factor in when counting such scores.
Vod
legendary
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December 06, 2020, 06:35:36 PM
#14
There’s a simple solution to all this. OgNasty has a net DT1 backing of +5, it wouldn’t take much to blacklist him from DT1 if people decide he’s not worth a spot on DT1. The solution (if you feel necessary) is to ~OgNasty.

I've decided his trust contains too many anomalies to be considered truthful anymore.  This, along with his trust manipulation show
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~OgNasty
is the TRUSTED thing to do, and proves he is a disgusting human being.

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December 06, 2020, 06:12:37 PM
#13
Notice anything interesting? Merit for the first person to call it what it is. LoyceV can't participate for obvious reasons Smiley

Funny. It's like you think bitcointalk didn't exist before you joined it.  I do love how much you care about whose feedback I trust to include in my network and that you think me including older feedback is somehow nefarious.  I was harassed into removing older users from my network previously, so this move has actually been long overdue as all of the added users have highly valuable feedback left to members showing the length that some users have been trusted here.  I really shouldn't justify this comment with a response, but I want you to know I saw that you have a problem with my trust additions even though you can't point to a single controversial feedback left by any of them, and I don't value your opinion whatsoever (I do highly trust nonnakip's opinion and the fact he doesn't respond to trust abuse by Vod/owlcatz/TMAN reflects not that he couldn't leave them a DT negative, but that he chooses not to even though he has earned that right).  I also think that any lemming who would exclude me for adding users to my trust network should maybe give an example of a user that doesn't deserve to be included in my trust network...  

EDIT: What I did notice as a result of my recent trust additions was that longtime member philipma1957 became the #2 most recognized user behind theymos.  Congrats to him.  Well deserved in my opinion.
legendary
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December 06, 2020, 05:59:30 PM
#12
There’s a simple solution to all this. OgNasty has a net DT1 backing of +5, it wouldn’t take much to blacklist him from DT1 if people decide he’s not worth a spot on DT1. The solution (if you feel necessary) is to ~OgNasty.
legendary
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December 06, 2020, 02:22:15 PM
#11
I agree that going form a trust score of +81 to +87 doesn't seem like a huge difference, and it's unlikely sway the decision of someone looking to do business with OGN, but your statement begs the question:  At what point does it matter?  If adding +6 to your trust score through manipulation of the trust system doubles your trust score, would it matter then?  What if it added 50%, or just 10%?
I don't have an answer to that Tongue My old data on Selfscratchers shows much worse cases, and at that time I scratched myself up 4 points. I would update the data, but the Trust changes that happened since then make it a more work than I want to spend on it at the moment.

Does +67 (which is what you get after ~OgNasty) to +87 matter?

The +6 boost is just the latest one.
Maybe, it's still not even a third, and at least some of them probably deserve it.
legendary
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December 06, 2020, 02:10:17 PM
#10
+81, +86 or +87 really doesn't matter much.

Does +67 (which is what you get after ~OgNasty) to +87 matter?

The +6 boost is just the latest one.
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December 06, 2020, 02:09:58 PM
#9
That being said, +81, +86 or +87 really doesn't matter much.

I agree that going form a trust score of +81 to +87 doesn't seem like a huge difference, and it's unlikely sway the decision of someone looking to do business with OGN, but your statement begs the question:  At what point does it matter?  If adding +6 to your trust score through manipulation of the trust system doubles your trust score, would it matter then?  What if it added 50%, or just 10%?
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December 06, 2020, 01:41:47 PM
#8
That being said, +81, +86 or +87 really doesn't matter much.
I would have to agree with this point. I doubt anyone is going to have their mind changed about if they are going to trust OgN with their money based on his changed trust score.
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December 06, 2020, 01:01:44 PM
#7
DireWolfM14 figured it out in ~20 minutes:

Hey now...  I might be slow, but not THAT slow!  I figured it out in less than 20 seconds, and took a few minutes to compile that post...  

I also think that any lemming who would exclude me for adding users to my trust network should maybe give an example of a user that doesn't deserve to be included in my trust network...

I almost excluded you when I learned you used Theymos' bitcoin to earn yourself a hefty load of airdrops...  that you didn't share with theymos.  Not only did you not share, you didn't even tell theymos you used his money to earn some for yourself.  I still haven't made up my mind whether your club is a Ponzi or not, so I'm not taking that into account.  This particular use of the trust system, however does demonstrate that you can be prone to shady behavior.  I came to those conclusions on my own, spontaneously, without encouragement from anyone.    

When I have an issue with the way people behave around here, I call them out on it, using their name.  Cowardly calling me a lemming isn't the right way to change my mind, if anything it only adds to the evidence that I made the right decision.  

And, if you would like to challenge my ability to think for myself, lets get it on.  Don't worry, you wouldn't be the first one to fail.
legendary
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December 06, 2020, 01:00:06 PM
#6
Thanks for telling me what I think. To be clear - all 8 users having left you positive feedback and 6 of them getting into DT2 solely because of your inclusions, therefore boosting your trust score by +6, is what's nefarious in this situation.
This is going to betray some serious stupidity on my part, but I didn't realize you could do something like that to your advantage, i.e., making DT2 members out of those who've left you positive trust, thereby boosting your trust score.  Makes sense now that suchmoon made the accusation here, though I'm not entirely convinced OgNasty would need to do something like that--or that he in fact did include those members to benefit himself.  Only he knows.

More concerning is whether those members are worthy of being on DT2.  I only recognize two of them, kingcolex and nonnakip, but don't really know anything about them or their reputations.  Keeping my fingers crossed that the newly-christened DT2 members don't abuse their power.
legendary
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December 06, 2020, 12:09:51 PM
#5
(I do highly trust nonnakip's opinion and the fact he doesn't respond to trust abuse by Vod/owlcatz/TMAN reflects not that he couldn't leave them a DT negative, but that he chooses not to even though he has earned that right).
Nonnakip (Trust list for: nonnakip (Trust: +4 / =0 / -3) (76 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)) is the only one that really stands out from this list of recently included users, because he only left positive feedback to OgNasty. He doesn't have a custom Trust list either.
Including someone because he doesn't leave feedback strikes me as a bit weird, and looks like Selfscratching. That being said, +81, +86 or +87 really doesn't matter much.
legendary
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December 06, 2020, 12:04:22 PM
#4
you waped

wape

To wank and type at the same time

Derived from (wa)nk and ty(pe)

No, I don't think I did that. Do you have anything to contribute on topic? It's a rhetorical question, don't worry.
legendary
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December 06, 2020, 11:35:57 AM
#3
you waped your trash trust list
you finished playing this game?

so why you interesting what to do Og ?

legendary
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December 06, 2020, 10:08:54 AM
#2
Reserved.



you think me including older feedback is somehow nefarious

Thanks for telling me what I think. To be clear - all 8 users having left you positive feedback and 6 of them getting into DT2 solely because of your inclusions, therefore boosting your trust score by +6, is what's nefarious in this situation.

I was harassed into removing older users from my network previously

When did you remove the 8 users that you just added?

you can't point to a single controversial feedback left by any of them

Nice strawman but see above. It's your actions, not theirs, that are problematic.
legendary
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December 06, 2020, 10:08:31 AM
#1
To avoid further derailing LoyceV's thread...

It was pointed out to me by someone - not throwing that person under the bus unless they want to Smiley - that OgNasty did some interesting changes in their trust list, resulting in this:

Last update:

    1. 18321: OgNasty (Trust: +81 / =4 / -5) (DT1! (6) 1080 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Right now:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ognasty-18321;dt =>  Trust score loading...

Notice anything interesting? Merit for the first person to call it what it is. LoyceV can't participate for obvious reasons Smiley

DireWolfM14 figured it out in ~20 minutes:

Trust score fortification (Self-Scratching) by DT1 member:



OgNasty came up with a feeble explanation that reeks of his typical weaselspeak:

Notice anything interesting? Merit for the first person to call it what it is. LoyceV can't participate for obvious reasons Smiley

Funny. It's like you think bitcointalk didn't exist before you joined it.  I do love how much you care about whose feedback I trust to include in my network and that you think me including older feedback is somehow nefarious.  I was harassed into removing older users from my network previously, so this move has actually been long overdue as all of the added users have highly valuable feedback left to members showing the length that some users have been trusted here.  I really shouldn't justify this comment with a response, but I want you to know I saw that you have a problem with my trust additions even though you can't point to a single controversial feedback left by any of them, and I don't value your opinion whatsoever (I do highly trust nonnakip's opinion and the fact he doesn't respond to trust abuse by Vod/owlcatz/TMAN reflects not that he couldn't leave them a DT negative, but that he chooses not to even though he has earned that right).  I also think that any lemming who would exclude me for adding users to my trust network should maybe give an example of a user that doesn't deserve to be included in my trust network...  

My response in the next post.



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