Topic: [OLD] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 # - page 109. (Read 458255 times)
July 04, 2013, 01:01:14 PM
Can someone explain what "leaking shares" means? I've been mining for a few months now but there's still quite a bit of the nitty-gritty details I don't fully understand.
July 04, 2013, 07:16:37 AM
Having some nice luck lately!
July 04, 2013, 01:13:58 AM
Something's still not right. I'm getting a whole bunch of these:
Code:
Stratum connection to pool 0 interrupted
Pool 0 stratum+tcp://stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334 not responding!
yeah cgminer has been leaking shares even with --failover-only. stats are reporting that I'm running about ~10% slower than I was for the previous 24 hours.
July 03, 2013, 10:02:06 PM
Something's still not right. I'm getting a whole bunch of these:
Code:
Stratum connection to pool 0 interrupted
Pool 0 stratum+tcp://stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334 not responding!
July 03, 2013, 06:29:44 PM
back up for me. how long was it down?
July 03, 2013, 05:47:02 PM
Having connectivity problems on both stratum and GBT.
#eligius
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I'm sure it will be back soon.
July 03, 2013, 05:44:56 PM
Having connectivity problems on both stratum and GBT.
July 03, 2013, 11:17:44 AM
And now I'm back in the queue again. 
July 03, 2013, 10:34:50 AM
You may have seen yourself in the payout queue during the beginning of a round when the system could potentially have had enough to pay some of your shelved shares and bump you into the payout queue. Most likely that didnt actually happen and the round was slightly longer than it needed to be to get to your shelved shares. Normal behavior. You'll likely have to continue mining if you want a faster payout, or your payout will timeout where it is at generally within a week if none of your shelved shares are paid.
Thanks, I sort of figured that after I posted, thanks to WynX.
Eagerly awaiting my payout. 
It will come
, but Wizkid is right, next to my explanation, also the holding of shelved shares (by stopping hashing in a particular round) can contribute to removal from the payout queue. All is normal behaviour indeed. Keep hashing like you're doing now, it should be done in a few days .Well I hit the payout threshold this morning, and saw my address at about 72nd in the payout queue. I checked again a few minutes ago and my address has gone from the queue. I've not received anything. NOW I'm confused.
July 02, 2013, 05:39:41 PM
To make it more clear:
Expected behavior: if the pool is unlucky, as my shelved shares are deeper and deeper in the queue (i.e. in the past), during the lucky phase at the start of each round, I will see 'estimated' graph at the start of each round with a lower threshold above the paid+unpaid graph, and decaying faster and faster, until I fall too deep in the queue and I reach the moment when it becomes flat.
Observed behavior: until June 26 I have seen expected behavior as described above, but it was far from becoming "flat" at that time (edit: unfortunately now we can hardly see it on the graph, it's too much in the past). Since then, the "estimated" graph is flat. It was all of a sudden, and it coincides with a short period (tens of seconds) when I submitted many shares, after being idle for long, and the staying idle for long. The hashrate graphs are correct (I currently no longer mine with that address, the spikes are just testing), but on the rewards graph, I can't understand the "break" of June 26.
Edit: another thing, the shelved shares date back from some (2-3) weeks ago, not months.
Expected behavior: if the pool is unlucky, as my shelved shares are deeper and deeper in the queue (i.e. in the past), during the lucky phase at the start of each round, I will see 'estimated' graph at the start of each round with a lower threshold above the paid+unpaid graph, and decaying faster and faster, until I fall too deep in the queue and I reach the moment when it becomes flat.
Observed behavior: until June 26 I have seen expected behavior as described above, but it was far from becoming "flat" at that time (edit: unfortunately now we can hardly see it on the graph, it's too much in the past). Since then, the "estimated" graph is flat. It was all of a sudden, and it coincides with a short period (tens of seconds) when I submitted many shares, after being idle for long, and the staying idle for long. The hashrate graphs are correct (I currently no longer mine with that address, the spikes are just testing), but on the rewards graph, I can't understand the "break" of June 26.
Edit: another thing, the shelved shares date back from some (2-3) weeks ago, not months.
July 02, 2013, 03:53:02 PM
A long series of lucky rounds is needed to fulfil all shelved shares.
I don't think this will ever happen (call me skeptic), I've got .5 btc shelved (in CPPSRB) which have not been moving for months..
July 02, 2013, 03:31:10 PM
The newest shelved shares are paid first.
If there is something left older shares a paid.
A long series of lucky rounds is needed to fulfil all shelved shares.
If there is something left older shares a paid.
A long series of lucky rounds is needed to fulfil all shelved shares.
July 02, 2013, 02:41:30 PM
Hmm, it's almost off charts now, hard to analyse for external parties (next to wizkid, timemachine being disabled). You seem to only have some spikes sometimes, yet I doubt they would ever contribute to a meaningful amount of accepted shares per round. Currently the rounding is a problem with these low or spiked hashrates, you don't see every satoshi. I can only assume these are credited however (else I'd never get anything lolz).
Edit; I do see similar behavior around the 26th on other stats (not mine, sorry for bringing random peoples stats to topic): http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1KwattJ8Vx5YKLhqzT4grcxjRwQL5f1GBp
Edit; I do see similar behavior around the 26th on other stats (not mine, sorry for bringing random peoples stats to topic): http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1KwattJ8Vx5YKLhqzT4grcxjRwQL5f1GBp
July 02, 2013, 02:34:27 PM
Since about 2 days ago there is something weird with my stats/payouts, they seem to be "stuck" during rounds, and even during the lucky phase of each round, my shelved shares stay on the shelf.
It seems other contibutors' stats are OK. Could you please check this address? Thanks!
It seems other contibutors' stats are OK. Could you please check this address? Thanks!
Bump, problem still there... thanks
This is not an actual problem. You are no longer mining here, and your older shelved shares are pushed behind the new shares from active miners during our past few unlucky rounds. Since you are not mining, you no longer have any new shares in the top portion of the share log. So, this will make it take longer for the pool to dig down to the shares you do have in the share log, which are under the shares that are from active miners from the recent rounds which ere not yet fully paid.
Summary: this is normal behavior.
I think I understand CPPSRB quite well and, sorry, but I must insist:
Until June 26, I could clearly see my shelved shares getting included early during the lucky phase of rounds.
Since June 26, after a short "share strobe" (many shares for less than a minute), I have never seen any shelved share, even early after several rounds with much more than 100% luck / <50% CDF, taken from my shelved shares to payout. Not a single one. It is now the last day where you can see the "not flat" part on my stats graph.
To make my point stronger, I will make a 0.2 BTC donation (0.1 as a donation to the pool and 0.1 to the one that explains it to me, probably Wizkid) if you can look at it again, and explain to me why such a difference between before June 26 and after June 26, and again come to the conclusion that this is perfectly normal.
Thanks.
EDIT: 1st suspect to my eyes are these "strobes", you can see the 1st strobe coincides with the moment when I wouldn't get any more shares "unshelved" from that point.
Would sure use a good explanation. Why do I have more shelved shares then earned? Am I getting payed some day if I change pools?
July 02, 2013, 01:06:51 PM
Since about 2 days ago there is something weird with my stats/payouts, they seem to be "stuck" during rounds, and even during the lucky phase of each round, my shelved shares stay on the shelf.
It seems other contibutors' stats are OK. Could you please check this address? Thanks!
It seems other contibutors' stats are OK. Could you please check this address? Thanks!
Bump, problem still there... thanks
This is not an actual problem. You are no longer mining here, and your older shelved shares are pushed behind the new shares from active miners during our past few unlucky rounds. Since you are not mining, you no longer have any new shares in the top portion of the share log. So, this will make it take longer for the pool to dig down to the shares you do have in the share log, which are under the shares that are from active miners from the recent rounds which ere not yet fully paid.
Summary: this is normal behavior.
I think I understand CPPSRB quite well and, sorry, but I must insist:
Until June 26, I could clearly see my shelved shares getting included early during the lucky phase of rounds.
Since June 26, after a short "share strobe" (many shares for less than a minute), I have never seen any shelved share, even early after several rounds with much more than 100% luck / <50% CDF, taken from my shelved shares to payout. Not a single one. It is now the last day where you can see the "not flat" part on my stats graph.
To make my point stronger, I will make a 0.2 BTC donation (0.1 as a donation to the pool and 0.1 to the one that explains it to me, probably Wizkid) if you can look at it again, and explain to me why such a difference between before June 26 and after June 26, and again come to the conclusion that this is perfectly normal.
Thanks.
EDIT: 1st suspect to my eyes are these "strobes", you can see the 1st strobe coincides with the moment when I wouldn't get any more shares "unshelved" from that point.
July 01, 2013, 02:18:56 PM
[18:25:08] replication died for some reason
[18:25:11] stats will update shortly
[18:25:11]
I don't see fresh stats older than 256 seconds, as of 06:17 forum time on 7/1/2013.
June 30, 2013, 07:22:35 PM
Typically the machine running the 7850 was a fresh install, and rebooted at 3am due to Windows Updates. 
Forgot to turn those off.
What's with the horrible luck at the moment? 24% and falling ATM.
Forgot to turn those off.What's with the horrible luck at the moment? 24% and falling ATM.
Blockchain.info says we found a block about 10 minutes ago, but the stats haven't updated (yet). How long do they usually take?
http://blockchain.info/block-index/395953/00000000000000361cc7c7cd7ebfa1b16228136f1cb2aff564ed141ddb23ce9d
Edit: now it's showing under the round time. Guess it just takes a while.
June 30, 2013, 06:15:07 AM
Typically the machine running the 7850 was a fresh install, and rebooted at 3am due to Windows Updates. Forgot to turn those off.
What's with the horrible luck at the moment? 24% and falling ATM.
Forgot to turn those off.What's with the horrible luck at the moment? 24% and falling ATM.
yah, well we had some amazing luck about a week ago, got like 10 blocks in one day.
Would love some good luck now though
June 30, 2013, 06:10:52 AM
Typically the machine running the 7850 was a fresh install, and rebooted at 3am due to Windows Updates. Forgot to turn those off.
What's with the horrible luck at the moment? 24% and falling ATM.
Forgot to turn those off.What's with the horrible luck at the moment? 24% and falling ATM.
June 29, 2013, 07:27:15 PM
You may have seen yourself in the payout queue during the beginning of a round when the system could potentially have had enough to pay some of your shelved shares and bump you into the payout queue. Most likely that didnt actually happen and the round was slightly longer than it needed to be to get to your shelved shares. Normal behavior. You'll likely have to continue mining if you want a faster payout, or your payout will timeout where it is at generally within a week if none of your shelved shares are paid.
Thanks, I sort of figured that after I posted, thanks to WynX.
Eagerly awaiting my payout. It will come
, but Wizkid is right, next to my explanation, also the holding of shelved shares (by stopping hashing in a particular round) can contribute to removal from the payout queue. All is normal behaviour indeed. Keep hashing like you're doing now, it should be done in a few days . Jump to: