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November 21, 2015, 01:05:28 AM
See , even Spiralout will tell you this is factual: He was part of team fly and a high holder. Then one day without warning he dumped 2500 coins on us. So THAT is why this is such a big deal. EVERYONE on the team was devastated, as we all trusted him. So we are putting the squeeze on him. Im going to keep saying this. Our cause is to "out" those that have been causing all this mistrust in crypto, and they wont like it one bit. BUT its nothing we do to them, THEY strike first, we just shine the light on them. Again, enough is enough. It needs to stop and it will. Most people think its just ok to go around and do whatever they want to people while anonymous. Its NOT ok. Just because your anonymous, does not mean you can do whatever you want to people and get away with it. Call it what you want. "Enough is enough". Im going to make a few enemies along the way, but I get LOADS of PMS saying "go vegas, I support you". Its about a 30 new allies to 1 enemy, and thats a great ratio. It confirms Im doing the right thing. I LOVE reading my emails every morning.

Vegas

Final speech, still for unknown reasons.

Firstly, as I stated all along that once you send coins to an exchange you do not have control of those funds as far as transactions on that address are concerned. I could send 1000 coins to yobit, never sell any and still have withdrawals from totally different people affect that deposit address even though my exchange balance does not change. So again, I have not sent a single coin to anyone. You can apologise to miner when you are ready.

Secondly, you can spend your days tracking my 27 address.. hell why not make it 50 or 100, anyone who used either exchange probably has a connection to my deposits as I have sold more coins than anyone. For the record, I did create a couple more wallets after I left the group for my kids as was my original intention (I'll even tell you the addresses if you really think it will help you sleep at night) but I sent every coin from every address I had left to Cryptopia yesterday and sold the lot. Goneski. Watching the direction you are taking this coin only reinforced my decision so I am out. Yes, your vegas fly trap was very affective. I dumped the lot before you could take any with ridiculous 50% fees. Congratulations.

If you think I am somehow still trying to hide my vast collection of coins you are simply paranoid. I have made no secret about my intent to leave this coin. I personally think its doomed for many many reasons but out of what little respect I have left for some of the group members (some are genuinely good people as far as I can tell), I chose not to make them public. You should be grateful for that.
By all means, waste your time tracking away though. You and your team clearly don't know what you are even looking at but I am sure you get a kick out of it and enjoy trying to nail completely innocent people for what you think might be happening.

Thirdly, here's the bottom line again. What I did with my own coins was absolutely my business. Not yours or team fly. I didn't sign any contracts and if I wanted to keep any coins I just would have. I could have held on a lot longer and slowly bled them out if I wanted to. Swapping them to multiple nameless wallets would achieve nothing and I could if I really wanted to as much as you think otherwise. Selling my coins also makes me a scammer as far as some of your team is concerned which is just laughable. Yes Tim, I'm laughing specifically at you. You're a bit of a twit mate.

Lastly, how do you think you would have reacted if I told you beforehand that I wanted out and was going to sell all of my coins? I know very well how you operate, I know your history, I know your ego, I know how you have played the markets since they first opened to try and monopolize the supply as cheaply as you can. I would have lost out big time. I am not an idiot, sorry. I only dumped into your own buy wall anyway so really, you got exactly what you wanted, more coins for the top holders. I have no idea who was placing those big buys yesterday for the remainder of my coins, but if I had to guess I'd say it was you or one of the team, with or without your knowledge.

What you did with ROS in the end served me very well and for that I am thankful to but you need to realise that not everyone is going to agree on everything you do. You yourself have stated that this coin is extremely controversial. My exit is just one by-product of that design. I'd expect more over the journey if I were you.

This is absolutely the last post I will ever make on this thread, I have no idea why I am saying anything at all to be perfectly honest.

 
legendary
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November 21, 2015, 12:26:22 AM

See , even Spiralout will tell you this is factual: He was part of team fly and a high holder. Then one day without warning he dumped 2500 coins on us. So THAT is why this is such a big deal. EVERYONE on the team was devastated, as we all trusted him. So we are putting the squeeze on him. Im going to keep saying this. Our cause is to "out" those that have been causing all this mistrust in crypto, and they wont like it one bit. BUT its nothing we do to them, THEY strike first, we just shine the light on them. Again, enough is enough. It needs to stop and it will. Most people think its just ok to go around and do whatever they want to people while anonymous. Its NOT ok. Just because your anonymous, does not mean you can do whatever you want to people and get away with it. Call it what you want. "Enough is enough". Im going to make a few enemies along the way, but I get LOADS of PMS saying "go vegas, I support you". Its about a 30 new allies to 1 enemy, and thats a great ratio. It confirms Im doing the right thing. I LOVE reading my emails every morning.

Vegas

Spiral  was part of the team and  he did say he had made wallets for his kids but, then agreed to put all funds in 1 wallet
to meet the teams rules. He changed his mind and later decided to take himself out of the team and dump lots of coins.
I do not find fault with his decisions - just the order he did them. He was in saying no problem - will make 1 wallet - then
changed his mind and dumped, then notified the team after dump. Personal opinion - should have notified team 1st before dump.
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November 21, 2015, 12:19:54 AM
Thanks for your help, and I believe you might be right. But Im waiting for a few more responses to chime in, and waiting to hear back from Yobit. Like I said, if I made a mistake on this, I will publicly apologize to midnight miner from the bottom of my heart and mean it. But I need more time.


Thanks
Vegas


And I will kick in the SuperFLY he lost due to the error
legendary
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November 20, 2015, 11:44:14 PM
Thanks for your help, and I believe you might be right. But Im waiting for a few more responses to chime in, and waiting to hear back from Yobit. Like I said, if I made a mistake on this, I will publicly apologize to midnight miner from the bottom of my heart and mean it. But I need more time.


Thanks
Vegas
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November 20, 2015, 11:38:34 PM
Hey, Im open to hear any explanation. It does not make a whole lot of sense that yobit would store funds for more than one user in 1 address, but to be fair let me get it right from the horses mouth. I will contact blacksmith and confirm either way. Stay tuned.

Vegas
it's not about storage though.  even if it's one persons deposit address for the exchange, it's sent indiscriminately (or coinage or min fee w/e) from there when withdrawn. essentially the exchange doesn't differentiate wallets it's sending from on withdrawals
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November 20, 2015, 11:34:24 PM
By the way Spiral, when I get bored I track your movements. Im tracking all of your 27 addresses youve used in the past 2 days including the FE3 and your main address. So you can stop now.

Vegas


Just Sayin,
AG18

See , even Spiralout will tell you this is factual: He was part of team fly and a high holder. Then one day without warning he dumped 2500 coins on us. So THAT is why this is such a big deal. EVERYONE on the team was devastated, as we all trusted him. So we are putting the squeeze on him. Im going to keep saying this. Our cause is to "out" those that have been causing all this mistrust in crypto, and they wont like it one bit. BUT its nothing we do to them, THEY strike first, we just shine the light on them. Again, enough is enough. It needs to stop and it will. Most people think its just ok to go around and do whatever they want to people while anonymous. Its NOT ok. Just because your anonymous, does not mean you can do whatever you want to people and get away with it. Call it what you want. "Enough is enough". Im going to make a few enemies along the way, but I get LOADS of PMS saying "go vegas, I support you". Its about a 30 new allies to 1 enemy, and thats a great ratio. It confirms Im doing the right thing. I LOVE reading my emails every morning.

Vegas
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November 20, 2015, 11:08:43 PM
No, I wont touch it. Here is why:

Its important that you understand the meaning of the flag of what it was and what it is, and its origins. The writing on the flag reads, "There is only one god, Allah, and the prophet Muhammad is his messenger." or "There is only one god, and he is god", is the best way I can translate. I'm sorry but the British and American democracy are based on free speech. Unfortunately, If people want to have the swastika or the ISIL flag on their gardens let them! It's hypocritical by the people of America to allow the confederate flag but not the swastika. The flag is known as the "Black Standard", and is part of Islamic tradition.
The text at the top of the flag is known as the "Shahada", and is a transliteration of "There is no God but God, and Muhammad is his prophet"
The symbol at the bottom of the flag is the Seal of Muhammad - this was a symbol that Muhammad inscribed into letters he wrote to leaders of Byzantium, Persia, Ethiopia, Egypt, Syria, Bahrain and Kashmir during Islam's earliest days.
The flag as a whole has been around for about as long as Islam itself: Muhammad used a similar flag as a symbol of his conquests, specifically to contrast himself to the Roman traditions regarding flags and standards of their own legions. So in short, the flag has been around for centuries. The ISIS adopted the flag, and twisted its meaning to their own cause. But its origins and its meaning do not change. Because the flag has always had a religious meaning , I cannot and will not censor it. I hope everyone understands.

Vegas

That is a pretty good summary of a very long story.

Not to get into a debate, but it is ALWAYS a political / power agenda that brings religion in to justify a conflict.

Terrorism or war in the name of a religion goes back to the days before the current religions existed.
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November 20, 2015, 11:05:22 PM
Cryptopia Market History:

11/20/2015 5:33:58 AM   Sell   0.00110026   1500.00000000   1.65039000
11/20/2015 5:33:58 AM   Sell   0.00152006   0.07207668   0.00010956
11/20/2015 5:33:58 AM   Sell   0.00152006   0.23444946   0.00035638
11/20/2015 4:56:57 AM   Sell   0.00153000   1000.00000000   1.53000000

My History at that time:

11/20/2015 4:56:57 AM   FLY/BTC   Buy   0.00160000   5.00000000   0.00800000
11/20/2015 4:56:57 AM   FLY/BTC   Buy   0.00180000   10.00000000   0.01800000
11/20/2015 4:56:57 AM   FLY/BTC   Buy   0.00180750   10.00000000   0.01807500
11/20/2015 4:56:57 AM   FLY/BTC   Buy   0.00181000   10.00000000   0.01810000

Yeah!  I made a real deal there!  Whoa! 35 FLY!!!

Still kicking myself for not putting more bids on the wall...
sr. member
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November 20, 2015, 11:01:51 PM
By the way Spiral, when I get bored I track your movements. Im tracking all of your 27 addresses youve used in the past 2 days including the FE3 and your main address. So you can stop now.

Vegas

Little Creepy.


Just Sayin,
AG18
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November 20, 2015, 10:57:43 PM
Hey, Im open to hear any explanation. It does not make a whole lot of sense that yobit would store funds for more than one user in 1 address, but to be fair let me get it right from the horses mouth. I will contact blacksmith and confirm either way. I also have a few great friends that create block explorers looking at it too. So we will get to the bottom of this.



Vegas
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November 20, 2015, 10:55:06 PM
SpiralOut posted, so I will post my side of all of this.


Here is the Addresses in my dead Wallet:

Empty Trade Wallet
FLcDGTnyApzGaQZDxK2rZv9kq2Rv2jKfay - (no label) never used
FHDsMB1Tw1LiPkCLtmdT2X3bSbDC8s6nze - YObit trading
FMZAw84vtF2gh2veuwHxLyyWaWZVDoaqDh - YObit Staking

Here is ALL the transactions from the wallet:
"Confirmed","Date","Type","Label","Address","Amount","ID"
"true","2015-11-18T00:07:53","Sent to","Cryptopia","FH8dhkSnAGmUMvGhRPaiWt55jDhLVvUSgB","-6.16506948","7b80b8e57312d3992bab3de80f1f9e1796601fb35342822b18b0b9f1068fc90b-000"
"true","2015-11-13T17:23:48","Sent to","Cryptopia","FH8dhkSnAGmUMvGhRPaiWt55jDhLVvUSgB","-50.10","8ca033239eb146eadfd454ab6acef159ef6e8631628ae2d9dcc6039d22a362e9-000"
"true","2015-11-12T14:39:01","Received with","YObit Trading","FHDsMB1Tw1LiPkCLtmdT2X3bSbDC8s6nze","6.06661153","a928b9dc452a6faa3c9695135fa796fcb8dcd8317dfa5179a2945c6a107399e9-000"
"true","2015-11-10T16:31:25","Minted","YObit Trading","FHDsMB1Tw1LiPkCLtmdT2X3bSbDC8s6nze","0.29845795","f2b7ddf91cbd6ba3050edb7d67ef2708040654ad01fad6d22af6dc08b3ae57e2-000"
"true","2015-11-07T09:11:12","Sent to","YObit","FGGQ8wKDaDGvR78SW4P9G75TbDT6D7JFxB","-20.10","f12eed2b3cb548cdf542b2ad670274df23afbad4c00cb30b35634bb376e7725d-000"
"true","2015-10-30T20:04:28","Received with","YObit Trading","FHDsMB1Tw1LiPkCLtmdT2X3bSbDC8s6nze","20.00","c0833c4fc0f8989b94dd85dafce7e1e530693d4db88c7d93bcfa17bf1da54bb4-000"
"true","2015-10-30T19:20:13","Received with","YObit Staking","FMZAw84vtF2gh2veuwHxLyyWaWZVDoaqDh","50.00","3c451d5927b977227fed0f6a3377bcaa70ce8fe6234459f90a264b2486b6bd5f-000"


MAIN Wallet
FMZAw84vtF2gh2veuwHxLyyWaWZVDoaqDh  - MAIN Addr
FF4g5pQQKNFZC6oUHniZw3z9dU5m56LBnE  - PoS Addr
FJsmCwDjVjNDb5ogRcXMx7wpG53MV3FqDU  - Generated but never used

Exported Transaction history:

"Confirmed","Date","Type","Label","Address","Amount","ID"
"true","2015-11-20T13:38:49","Received with","MAIN","FF4g5pQQKNFZC6oUHniZw3z9dU5m56LBnE","50.00","4e1fb46df47e1ff1e03607b300a825be8e7c0c3aef1a793fd6b8fe7e6cb7fc9f-000"
"true","2015-11-18T21:12:17","Minted","MAIN","FF4g5pQQKNFZC6oUHniZw3z9dU5m56LBnE","0.25165793","4155dab13758bef77dc756c46def7195f60c5449521dc0984077dfabe3ecff64-000"
"true","2015-11-18T21:12:17","Sent to","MAIN POS","FJsmCwDjVjNDb5ogRcXMx7wpG53MV3FqDU","-0.25165793","4155dab13758bef77dc756c46def7195f60c5449521dc0984077dfabe3ecff64-000"
"true","2015-11-18T18:03:51","Received with","MAIN","FF4g5pQQKNFZC6oUHniZw3z9dU5m56LBnE","25.00","2372eb0bfb22453e9b787f9cf2a3fafd1da6c3bb5941e2e95d6c75a466f2fcd2-000"
"true","2015-11-18T00:04:51","Received with","MAIN","FF4g5pQQKNFZC6oUHniZw3z9dU5m56LBnE","25.00","6ed14e6f2b7bcc468bffeeb5b9f3aec2e1c08d7ee018a771258d535391d75685-000"
"true","2015-11-14T02:59:33","Minted","MAIN","FF4g5pQQKNFZC6oUHniZw3z9dU5m56LBnE","1.29123795","3b625ecf1de362dd8efb42b7fa1fddf549ad9a92abf7eef7bd4d8297ba803eae-000"
"true","2015-11-14T02:59:33","Sent to","MAIN POS","FJsmCwDjVjNDb5ogRcXMx7wpG53MV3FqDU","-1.29123795","3b625ecf1de362dd8efb42b7fa1fddf549ad9a92abf7eef7bd4d8297ba803eae-000"
"true","2015-11-12T14:21:30","Received with","MAIN","FF4g5pQQKNFZC6oUHniZw3z9dU5m56LBnE","25.00","52dbbbff063595bfdc561e59ca2abaf48470b5ddc5ea1ecf585fb0566decf3ba-000"
"true","2015-11-09T19:39:55","Minted","MAIN","FF4g5pQQKNFZC6oUHniZw3z9dU5m56LBnE","0.26780473","b424d8553090ecd3cc128a8b0b45bbebe5ff9e0e353e911ae167f29e40c96f6c-000"
"true","2015-11-02T08:12:41","Received with","MAIN","FF4g5pQQKNFZC6oUHniZw3z9dU5m56LBnE","80.00","87bc65f5ad8707bbc8552d8c38563a772455b4e5e38a8c2b17775da96e98ef5e-000"
"true","2015-10-31T02:04:06","Received with","MAIN","FF4g5pQQKNFZC6oUHniZw3z9dU5m56LBnE","20.00","fc36f15fa78ca765fd1530c83cbaca38cc1188da7861b39fc7e735b767341b6a-000"


FGGQ8wKDaDGvR78SW4P9G75TbDT6D7JFxB  - YObit Deposit Addr
FH8dhkSnAGmUMvGhRPaiWt55jDhLVvUSgB  - Cryptopia Deposit Addr

legendary
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November 20, 2015, 10:37:30 PM

So I understand your explanation : Spiralout sent about $500 US worth of FLY to a random address, and you were just lucky enough to have that address? Did I understand this correctly? That sounds plausible. Ill put you right back in rewards, thanks for your explanation. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Vegas

Why I am bothering, I really don't know.

Seems you're intent on attempting to publicly crucify anyone who purchased coins from an exchange because... they all came from someone who sold them. That is how they work you know.
I would have thought at least one of the many experts in the group could have explained this very simple concept to you by now.
Care to post the transaction you seem pretty confident I sent him 500 bucks worth? BTW, you cant because I didn't send him or anyone a single coin. All mine were sold on exchanges, all of them.  

I mean apart from you being wrong again, this poor bugger has a total of 225 coins of the 170,000 supply and you are riding him, really?

Two cents: Put away the police badge and focus on the coin and creating value instead of wasting time chasing imaginary blockchain shenanigans. The top holders have more than enough to secure the future of this coin and people will continue to buy and sell.. big and small. You cannot stop it. The harder you try and make it for the smaller holders to do so will do nothing but deter new investors. Stop wasting time chasing ghosts and do something that makes people want to buy into the coin. You are doing the exact opposite now and unless things change, you'll end up with a bunch of disappointed investors with nobody to sell their POS savings to.


Here you go:

Here is a stake for spiral
Input 0 :   202.32896055 is sent from SpiralOut (FC319pXGa5EP2iqKpiLgMdqHzACgQD6gwu)
Input Source: 7f1e2a7e199b9f8c743663d550f4c06033c7c0d6fdf910860aa3b047528518c3
Output 0 :   CoinStake
Output 1 :   202.32896055 sent to SpiralOut (FC319pXGa5EP2iqKpiLgMdqHzACgQD6gwu)
Output 2 :   2.34119616 sent to FE3KGtMEWLbU1o9P9HUmSLtVsWDnWT83F2

Input main wallet output main wallet and address staked to above

Midnight miner receive 80 - 16 from FE3KGtMEWLbU1o9P9HUmSLtVsWDnWT83F2 (currently 25th on richlist) and the rest from several addresses of which 4 more are tied to recent moves by Spiral including below 4 (moves from main to:

FK4YtUin1BEzSmttZQvAYNDKNzqQyqhG9a    *7
FFb9TwdCumA1fcCD1X8V1G93NbGJfRusUx    *6
FNZwkqdCFCStpE5EDyW1Nxfn7HSbdF3u4w   *5
FNf2MxkGu7hnyD8oR72xipew1eYvKr3XNk      *1

So are you trying to say that you sent to FE3 above (claiming it is the exchange) and Midnight miner got his from the exchange but, has the same exchange wallet as Spiral?Huh I sent to Yobit but have my own unique address and I sent to yobit but have my own unique address.

Here is the 80 coins you sent to your Midnight-miner account :



By the way Spiral, when I get bored I track your movements. Im tracking all of your 27 addresses youve used in the past 2 days including the FE3 and your main address. So you can stop now.


Vegas

legendary
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November 20, 2015, 10:13:19 PM
Alright.. Ill make it simple. FLY is not for everyone. Its extremely structured, its rigid , its hardcore, its ever evolving. For those of you that think its a "bad" thing , take a look at the price of 98% of the coins in crypto that have 100% total freedom, then compare ours. Then compare ours in a few weeks. Youll see SOME structure and rules make a world of difference. It even gets more enjoyable taking from the rich and giving to the poor.

REMINDER: Yobit will freeze all FLY on November 22nd 2015 at 9am PST. YOU MUST withdraw all of your FLY before then. Our new exchange is Crytopia.

The fact that Spiralout would even show up here proves that he was hit so hard with my new update, he went through the wall into the next room ..LOL

Vegas..................BABY!

Ok, just sent my 176 Fly from Yobit to Cryptopia. Hope the price will go up before the end of 2015; hope also Fly isn't like Breakcoin.

Vegas can we ban this ISIS FLAG?

No, I wont touch it. Here is why:

Its important that you understand the meaning of the flag of what it was and what it is, and its origins. The writing on the flag reads, "There is only one god, Allah, and the prophet Muhammad is his messenger." or "There is only one god, and he is god", is the best way I can translate. I'm sorry but the British and American democracy are based on free speech. Unfortunately, If people want to have the swastika or the ISIL flag on their gardens let them! It's hypocritical by the people of America to allow the confederate flag but not the swastika. The flag is known as the "Black Standard", and is part of Islamic tradition.
The text at the top of the flag is known as the "Shahada", and is a transliteration of "There is no God but God, and Muhammad is his prophet"
The symbol at the bottom of the flag is the Seal of Muhammad - this was a symbol that Muhammad inscribed into letters he wrote to leaders of Byzantium, Persia, Ethiopia, Egypt, Syria, Bahrain and Kashmir during Islam's earliest days.
The flag as a whole has been around for about as long as Islam itself: Muhammad used a similar flag as a symbol of his conquests, specifically to contrast himself to the Roman traditions regarding flags and standards of their own legions. So in short, the flag has been around for centuries. The ISIS adopted the flag, and twisted its meaning to their own cause. But its origins and its meaning do not change. Because the flag has always had a religious meaning , I cannot and will not censor it. I hope everyone understands.

Vegas
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November 20, 2015, 09:48:57 PM
What is the link to the new repo?

Presstab I thought we parted ways and agreed to stay out of each others threads. Did we misunderstand each other?

Vegas

This is hilarious...I can only imagine the background behind this one...


So ive really been trying to cool off and forget what Presstab did to us, but I just cant shake it. So, I sent him a PM and told him what a piece of crap scumbag dev he was for leaving us with a broken wallet unannounced after I paid him loads of money. I am really angry because you guys trusted me to do my best for you, and I failed. I thought my choice was good, but what he did was take a boat load of money from me, then bail and left us with a broken wallet. Has this EVER happened in crypto before? Sound familiar? Yes, he is the same as all the rest. Then he lies and says he is "on vacation for 2 weeks", then he just made a post to his rate coin, TODAY!?!?!?!. The fix took Keesdewit 30 minutes TOTAL!!! Why couldnt have Presstab done that? Even if he is on vacation he certainly has access to a computer, and time to use it. So I just wanted to make that known that I sent him a nasty gram. I think he is a coward, and I doubt he will show his face here, but I hope he does, cause when he does, I will unload so much nasty truth, he will run like the coward he is. Now.. I can move on, unless he wants to try to take it up with me right here, and I will throw him around this thread like a rag doll. Sorry for the drama guys, but I took an oath to do my very best, and ALWAYS protect the investors that have trusted me, and hold strong, the integrity of this coin. I want to be clear: I will ALWAYS defend us. We are the first real cause to change crypto, and we wont fail. The scammers need to be "outed", and ALL of them will. I failed at choosing an honest dev, and Im mad as hell, that he has hurt all of us. The ONLY thing thats keeping me somewhat calm is we ended up with the best and most honest dev in the world, my hero, Keesdewit.

Vegas

I am in Brussels using my mobile phone from my hotel wifi... you sir are crazy.

Also I never had any contract or anything with you so not sure why you are under the impression that I have some sort of responsibility to fork your coin five times a month.


I guess when vegas went crying to mprep to get posts deleted he forgot to flag this as well.

Actually Billo , I didnt. Im a lot of things, but I am not a liar, and I did not contact mprep or ANY other mod and request that they be deleted. You sir have a right to say anything thats on your mind. I probably wont agree with most of it, but I will never request that it get deleted because its your opinion, and where I live freedom of speech is everything. Also out of respect , I have not posted in "your friends thread". I was hoping that you both would do the same for me. Its the best way.

Vegas
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November 20, 2015, 09:12:52 PM

So I understand your explanation : Spiralout sent about $500 US worth of FLY to a random address, and you were just lucky enough to have that address? Did I understand this correctly? That sounds plausible. Ill put you right back in rewards, thanks for your explanation. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Vegas

Why I am bothering, I really don't know.

Seems you're intent on attempting to publicly crucify anyone who purchased coins from an exchange because... they all came from someone who sold them. That is how they work you know.
I would have thought at least one of the many experts in the group could have explained this very simple concept to you by now.
Care to post the transaction you seem pretty confident I sent him 500 bucks worth? BTW, you cant because I didn't send him or anyone a single coin. All mine were sold on exchanges, all of them.  

I mean apart from you being wrong again, this poor bugger has a total of 225 coins of the 170,000 supply and you are riding him, really?

Two cents: Put away the police badge and focus on the coin and creating value instead of wasting time chasing imaginary blockchain shenanigans. The top holders have more than enough to secure the future of this coin and people will continue to buy and sell.. big and small. You cannot stop it. The harder you try and make it for the smaller holders to do so will do nothing but deter new investors. Stop wasting time chasing ghosts and do something that makes people want to buy into the coin. You are doing the exact opposite now and unless things change, you'll end up with a bunch of disappointed investors with nobody to sell their POS savings to.

You need to rethink your entire strategy. Does this coin exist purely to serve as a means for you to prove you can outsmart someone?


First people invest in FLY by choice. So lose the whole police thing. No one is forced to invest with us.  To be fair, I will triple check my data and bring the exact transaction. I did not catch this actual transaction, one of my team members did. I looked at it, and it looked correct. I will produce the results. IF I am wrong, I will make a full sincere apology to midnight miner. If I am right, then I will post the transactions for others to judge.

Update: I have got word back from my team member that caught it, and they are driving home now. They confirm what they saw. So I will post this information for everyone to see, and leave no doubts. My team member tells me it was around 100 coins total. So I stand corrected on my amounts.

Vegas
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1003
"Yobit pump alert software" Link in my signature!
November 20, 2015, 09:02:16 PM
First thanks to those of you for bringing so much attention and publicity to FLY. I was getting concerned for a while that no one would even be interested. So lets be blunt shall we? FLY from day one in its early days when venerable was flown under the radar. It was weak and easily could be crushed. Over the past few weeks, I have gathered an army of supporters. Their names only known by me. Here is why. Fly will divide the good and the bad in Crypto, it will shine the light on those that have been tearing at the very fabric of crypto and bringing massive mistrust. We will not label anyone, you will show your colors when the brightness of FLY shines on you. In the history of Crypto , there has never been such a powerful team that is ready to stand up and say "enough is enough". I am NOT speaking of our small team of 10. I myself am ready to take any and all punishment anyone can think they can dish out. Over the past 2 years I have slowly watched crypto deteriorate into what it is today Sad I kept waiting for someone to stand up and create a cause and do something. But they never came. I realized why they never came, because that person is me. When I realized that I had the power to change things, and didnt, I was cheating the world of crypto. Guilt ridden, I devised a plan over a few weeks, and then launched it "under the radar".I will not seek out scammers, and thieves, and haters and fudsters. I dont need to , fly  is a magnet for them by design. They WILL come here and I will shine the spotlight in their face. Those that desecrate crypto will be drawn to FLY, they wont be able to stop themselves. They see me as their biggest threat, and they are right. I am. So the truth about fly is finally revealed. Next will be their silly threats on my family, and I am already 10 steps ahead of you on that. Guys dont try that, trust me, you WILL land in prison. I guarantee you that.

Vegas
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1003
"Yobit pump alert software" Link in my signature!
November 20, 2015, 09:00:40 PM

Ok Ill gonna be straight with you. I think your a great guy, and an amazing FLY supporter, and frankly you deserve all the rewards, but help us understand why Spiralout who shattered our trust in every way sent you a large amount of fly? Im serious, Im not being difficult and I want to reward you, but you are the only one that knows the truth. Please explain so we can support you and welcome you.

Vegas

I think SpiralOut straighten that out in his post.  I don't know him, he doesn't know me.

I missed his big dump on Cryptopia, damn!
I had a few bids up on the buy wall, but nothing near what went through.  Someone was there to catch it, it wasn't me.

So I understand your explanation : Spiralout sent about $500 US worth of FLY to a random address, and you were just lucky enough to have that address? Did I understand this correctly? That sounds plausible. Ill put you right back in rewards, thanks for your explanation.

Vegas



Oh Crap!  Random address?!? you mean it was not on the exchange?
It could be sitting there in an address I used!  
I will try open the other wallet I deleted to be S-FLY compliant!  Your freakin' kinding right!?


ok,
Title should be updated
 Team FLY : v1.6.2 wallet released! The most trusted coin in crypto!
to
  Team FLY : v1.6.2 wallet released! The most Policed coin in crypto!





Just Sayin,
AG18
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
November 20, 2015, 08:45:01 PM

So I understand your explanation : Spiralout sent about $500 US worth of FLY to a random address, and you were just lucky enough to have that address? Did I understand this correctly? That sounds plausible. Ill put you right back in rewards, thanks for your explanation. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Vegas

Why I am bothering, I really don't know.

Seems you're intent on attempting to publicly crucify anyone who purchased coins from an exchange because... they all came from someone who sold them. That is how they work you know.
I would have thought at least one of the many experts in the group could have explained this very simple concept to you by now.
Care to post the transaction you seem pretty confident I sent him 500 bucks worth? BTW, you cant because I didn't send him or anyone a single coin. All mine were sold on exchanges, all of them. 

I mean apart from you being wrong again, this poor bugger has a total of 225 coins of the 170,000 supply and you are riding him, really?

Two cents: Put away the police badge and focus on the coin and creating value instead of wasting time chasing imaginary blockchain shenanigans. The top holders have more than enough to secure the future of this coin and people will continue to buy and sell.. big and small. You cannot stop it. The harder you try and make it for the smaller holders to do so will do nothing but deter new investors. Stop wasting time chasing ghosts and do something that makes people want to buy into the coin. You are doing the exact opposite now and unless things change, you'll end up with a bunch of disappointed investors with nobody to sell their POS savings to.

You need to rethink your entire strategy. Does this coin exist purely to serve as a means for you to prove you can outsmart someone?
sr. member
Activity: 442
Merit: 250
November 20, 2015, 08:16:41 PM

Ok Ill gonna be straight with you. I think your a great guy, and an amazing FLY supporter, and frankly you deserve all the rewards, but help us understand why Spiralout who shattered our trust in every way sent you a large amount of fly? Im serious, Im not being difficult and I want to reward you, but you are the only one that knows the truth. Please explain so we can support you and welcome you.

Vegas

I think SpiralOut straighten that out in his post.  I don't know him, he doesn't know me.

I missed his big dump on Cryptopia, damn!
I had a few bids up on the buy wall, but nothing near what went through.  Someone was there to catch it, it wasn't me.

So I understand your explanation : Spiralout sent about $500 US worth of FLY to a random address, and you were just lucky enough to have that address? Did I understand this correctly? That sounds plausible. Ill put you right back in rewards, thanks for your explanation.

Vegas

Oh Crap!  Random address?!? you mean it was not on the exchange?
It could be sitting there in an address I used!  
I will try open the other wallet I deleted to be S-FLY compliant!  Your freakin' kinding right!?


ok,
Title should be updated
 Team FLY : v1.6.2 wallet released! The most trusted coin in crypto!
to
  Team FLY : v1.6.2 wallet released! The most Policed coin in crypto!





Just Sayin,
AG18
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1000
Crackpot Idealist
November 20, 2015, 08:08:04 PM
What is the link to the new repo?

Presstab I thought we parted ways and agreed to stay out of each others threads. Did we misunderstand each other?

Vegas

This is hilarious...I can only imagine the background behind this one...


So ive really been trying to cool off and forget what Presstab did to us, but I just cant shake it. So, I sent him a PM and told him what a piece of crap scumbag dev he was for leaving us with a broken wallet unannounced after I paid him loads of money. I am really angry because you guys trusted me to do my best for you, and I failed. I thought my choice was good, but what he did was take a boat load of money from me, then bail and left us with a broken wallet. Has this EVER happened in crypto before? Sound familiar? Yes, he is the same as all the rest. Then he lies and says he is "on vacation for 2 weeks", then he just made a post to his rate coin, TODAY!?!?!?!. The fix took Keesdewit 30 minutes TOTAL!!! Why couldnt have Presstab done that? Even if he is on vacation he certainly has access to a computer, and time to use it. So I just wanted to make that known that I sent him a nasty gram. I think he is a coward, and I doubt he will show his face here, but I hope he does, cause when he does, I will unload so much nasty truth, he will run like the coward he is. Now.. I can move on, unless he wants to try to take it up with me right here, and I will throw him around this thread like a rag doll. Sorry for the drama guys, but I took an oath to do my very best, and ALWAYS protect the investors that have trusted me, and hold strong, the integrity of this coin. I want to be clear: I will ALWAYS defend us. We are the first real cause to change crypto, and we wont fail. The scammers need to be "outed", and ALL of them will. I failed at choosing an honest dev, and Im mad as hell, that he has hurt all of us. The ONLY thing thats keeping me somewhat calm is we ended up with the best and most honest dev in the world, my hero, Keesdewit.

Vegas

I am in Brussels using my mobile phone from my hotel wifi... you sir are crazy.

Also I never had any contract or anything with you so not sure why you are under the impression that I have some sort of responsibility to fork your coin five times a month.


I guess when vegas went crying to mprep to get posts deleted he forgot to flag this as well.
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