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November 23, 2015, 04:35:23 PM
I have no problem with that time line. I always prefer quality over quickness. What about POS? can we let the actual wallet open for POS?
legendary
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November 23, 2015, 03:48:56 PM
So guys I just talked to Keesdewit that does all of our coding. Like myself he is a extremely honest guy. He told me this:

"Looking at the code now, what we are implementing is not as easy as I originally thought. Because implementing this fee table affects every other area of the code. So once the fee table is implemented many many other areas are affected. I think its best that I take my time and go line by line and make sure everything in the code is compatible with the fee table. The part that some people may not like is how long this is going to take, and my estimate is about a week. I can put a quick fix out, but I dont think this is the best way. I want to start over and methodically go through the code and implement the changes were they need to be. This could take about a week. I fear that I may upset the investors because they have to wait this long, but it is the best way".

So Ive made the decision to have him go through the code and take the time he needs to make this right, and if he needs more time, I will allow him more time. Kees and I BOTH agree that quality is everything. So I am welcome to feedback, good or bad. We can talk about this, and I will be updating this thread as kees moves forward. I am sure that even though FLY is going through "a rough patch", I am 100% confident that it is and will be the greatest crypto EVER. Kees will be working everyday for a week straight to bring you excellence. I am open to any and all questions.

Thank you

Vegas
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November 23, 2015, 03:43:48 PM
Vegas - What a wonderful post - Thank you for the clear summary.
            I think everyone can see that you are dedicated to this coin.

            While many coins are being dumped by devs., you have set a system
            where the dev. (you) and those on the team have volunteered to join
            you in not selling from their main wallets and only selling POS.

            Look how many have claimed their wallets on the Richlist.
            I encourage everyone who has not done so to do it. Many will not
            but, the fact that many of the top holders have makes FLY special.
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November 23, 2015, 01:14:42 PM
OK..thanks....all I knew was to withdraw my coins to v 1.7.1. Just making sure.

Hey, I see you have XRA in your sig. Are you a dev for them too? I only have a few but it hasn't been doing very good. Hanging onto the few I have.

Thanks,
CapnBDL
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Yep, XRA is working quite nicely, have had no reason to make any forks or additions to the code because the blockchain is performing exactly as it should!


But from investors side it was very wise from Vegas, to warn us, before something could get worst! We are really working on a serious coin and handle it like a business...Also, we can make mistakes, like u!

If we fully understand UR bugs, we can move on and everything will work smoothier than before!

Greetz
Meta

I didn't make this last fork, so the bugs are not mine. And to be honest keez has done an amazing job with what I have seen in the commits. When I created the additional transaction fee code, it was something that had never been done or seen before and is quite complex. keez added another even more complex layer to the code, and of course there are bound to be bugs with this level of complexity and on vegas' time table of get it done tomorrow or I will blow everything up.

Realistically it would be great if vegas had a more accomodative/non-adhd timeline where the developer could use testnet for a few weeks to make sure everything works as it should and make proper bug fixes. Unfortunately the timetable is much different and major protocol updates are being crammed in way to fast.

I have now sold out the majority of my FLY but still have a few lingering around to play with. I will continue watching the thread and hopefully vegas will post the full details about what is going on, instead of just private messaging them only to crestington.

Presstab what happened between us was tragic. Im still sad today about it. I really and truly mean that. I still to this day dont understand. You are a good person, I am too. So we both know the facts, and none of it makes any sense. I was trying to put this behind us and move on. I have respected you and have not contacted you as you have asked, I have not posted in your thread. So when you keep posting here, people are going to begin to ask questions, and then I have no choice but to post absolute facts about what happened. Because if I dont, then it looks like im hiding something or did something wrong. So I think we both made some poor judgments that caused us to separate. I respectfully ask that you discontinue discussing it for both of our benefits. It is the best way.  But Ill let you make that decision.

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I didn't make this last fork

Correct, this last fork and all future code will not be any part of Presstabs work. The last 2 wallet updates were codes by Keesdewit.

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I didn't make this last fork, so the bugs are not mine. And to be honest keez has done an amazing job with what I have seen in the commits. When I created the additional transaction fee code, it was something that had never been done or seen before and is quite complex. keez added another even more complex layer to the code, and of course there are bound to be bugs.

Agreed 100%. Presstab and Kees are probably the 2 top, most talented developers out there , and they both have been challenged by this horribly complex code. It is NOT lack of talent on their end. Its the fact that I am asking them to do things that have never been attempted in crypto before. So the truth is NOBODY knows what the results will look like. So in an effort to protect reputations, I am the one that is directing these changes to Keesdewit to code. Please do  NOT blame him for bugs. I take full blame when things dont work right. I was the one who directed Presstab to code the 10% fee to Yobit. This had NEVER been attempted before, and Presstab did warn me, in advance that it may not work, and I told him I wanted him to do it anyway and he did. So I want to be clear to everyone about how things are functioning and did function when Presstab was hired by me. Its what happened AFTER the code didnt work on Yobit that I want to forget about Sad  

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Vegas' time table of get it done tomorrow or I will blow everything up.

There has only been one time were I have pushed Kees to "get it done now", and thats when withdrawls were stuck on Yobit, and he came we met for the very first time and he said "I can help you". I informed him that yobit had frozen transactions and Ive been looking frantically for a developers for days to help me. I was so desperate to get this fixed and find a dev, that I spammed the forums so hard , I got my account banned for about 10 days for "Spamming the threads", as I had kept posting "Please I need a dev to help, our funds are frozen on yobit". My ban was fully deserved as I admit I was overly aggressive when looking for a dev to help us.

When we decided to go with the new table of fees for V1.70 Kees was notified on 11/11/15 about the changes I wanted and that we we fork on 11/22/15. I never hounded him, or pushed him. He would actually email me with a few questions. You have my full permission to email Kees and verify the facts contained here. I never once pushed him, or initiated an email asking "when will it be done?". It was cool and calm, and stress free. Even now, Crytopia is in maintenance mode. I havent emailed him. Im calm, because he knows what needs to be done, and he takes the initiative.

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I shared this with you in private. I thought I didnt have to explain to you to keep this confidential. The reason is many people are not educated on adhd, so many times people with adhd are misunderstood. But while youve brought it up, some of the most creative people in the world have been diagnosed with this "disorder" including Walt Disney, Justin Timberlake, Steve Jobs, Michael Jordan, Jim Carrey, John F. Kennedy and finally the most intelligent man that ever walked the earth... Albert Einstein. So, Let me be crystal clear on this. Im not ashamed. This was and is still today commonly used to bully and degrade people that have this "disorder". It used to affect me, and me feel ashamed of my "disorder" 20 years ago, but today ive come to terms with it, and I have just accepted it as part of me. It doesnt define who I am, there is nothing I can do to change it, so scream it from the roof tops. Have fun!!! As a teenager I learned quickly that I couldnt physically fight. Out of desperation I called to my mind for answers, and it gave me over 100 different ways to deal with my attacker. Of course at a young age, I used to think it was funny to choose the option, that inflicts the most pain on those that were bullying me. Although it certainly was effective, I learned later in life that it was not necessary, and the wrong way to handle things. Today I just bind those in place. They are so stuck, they cannot move. The more they try to fight, the harder they get stuck and tangled in their own web of lies. This is an non aggressive approach. This is usually always enough to get my message across. I try to use minimal force to defend myself as Im not violent and dont like confrontation. Living with adhd has taught me to have empathy for those with disorders outside of mental health including but not limited to diabetes , heart disease, those that might be wheelchair bound, and anything else you can think of. Its actually made me MORE caring and more compassionate person, and I wouldnt change it if I could. Today I use my gift to help those less fortunate than myself, in the real world and in crypto.

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Hopefully Vegas will post the full details about what is going on, instead of just private messaging them only to Crestington.

First, ask me ANYTHING. I will answer it in FULL detail as much as you want. If that answer is not satisfactory, then I will answer in more detail. This helps others understand what is going on too. See, I am careful with my actions as I already know there are those out there that will stop at nothing to shut down FLY. My worse crime is getting WAY over emotional, as I am so passionate about my work here.
The reason why I PM Crestington, is because I needed someone to talk to AND understand the code and why the chain stopped for 2 hours. Crestington is a fantastic listener, and the day had not gone as planned, and I just needed someone to talk to and look at the code and help ME understand what had happened.

So anyone is welcome to ask anything they like, and I will gladly answer. IF the question is about the code, the code is open source. So for those like Presstab there should not be questions about the source code, but if there is, I will need some time to ask Kees, and will copy and paste the answer. So any and all questions are welcome, and I will answer them all in great detail. Until then, Kees and I will be working together today.

Thank you all

Vegas







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November 23, 2015, 11:57:44 AM
Well its no secret that I dived in this project premature. Im not concerned at all as everyone can see clearly that my intent is all good. That is my main concern is that people will panic when there is no reason to panic. I have a very obscure system that might take a few tries to get right. But I wont give up because this is going to be to the benefit of the people that need it the most. I will be working non stop diligent until we have everything right. Those that remain calm , as everyone has will LOVE the end result. So work with us, we are going to put you through a few more updates, and I promise , you will be sooooo glad you stuck by our side. Thanks to everyone. I will be working wtih Keesdewit all day long on this, and will be posting on progress throughout the day.

Vegas   

Thanks so much for the work you and keesdewit have been doing. I haven't been in a panic or even worried. Just waiting is such a hard game to play in Crypto-world. lol
Keep us informed.

Thanks,
CapnBDL
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legendary
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November 23, 2015, 11:41:24 AM
Well its no secret that I dived in this project premature. Im not concerned at all as everyone can see clearly that my intent is all good. That is my main concern is that people will panic when there is no reason to panic. I have a very obscure system that might take a few tries to get right. But I wont give up because this is going to be to the benefit of the people that need it the most. I will be working non stop diligent until we have everything right. Those that remain calm , as everyone has will LOVE the end result. So work with us, we are going to put you through a few more updates, and I promise , you will be sooooo glad you stuck by our side. Thanks to everyone. I will be working wtih Keesdewit all day long on this, and will be posting on progress throughout the day.

Vegas   
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November 23, 2015, 11:30:11 AM
OK..thanks....all I knew was to withdraw my coins to v 1.7.1. Just making sure.

Hey, I see you have XRA in your sig. Are you a dev for them too? I only have a few but it hasn't been doing very good. Hanging onto the few I have.

Thanks,
CapnBDL
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Yep, XRA is working quite nicely, have had no reason to make any forks or additions to the code because the blockchain is performing exactly as it should!


But from investors side it was very wise from Vegas, to warn us, before something could get worst! We are really working on a serious coin and handle it like a business...Also, we can make mistakes, like u!

If we fully understand UR bugs, we can move on and everything will work smoothier than before!

Greetz
Meta

I didn't make this last fork, so the bugs are not mine. And to be honest keez has done an amazing job with what I have seen in the commits. When I created the additional transaction fee code, it was something that had never been done or seen before and is quite complex. keez added another even more complex layer to the code, and of course there are bound to be bugs with this level of complexity and on vegas' time table of get it done tomorrow or I will blow everything up.

Realistically it would be great if vegas had a more accomodative/non-adhd timeline where the developer could use testnet for a few weeks to make sure everything works as it should and make proper bug fixes. Unfortunately the timetable is much different and major protocol updates are being crammed in way to fast.

I have now sold out the majority of my FLY but still have a few lingering around to play with. I will continue watching the thread and hopefully vegas will post the full details about what is going on, instead of just private messaging them only to crestington.

Oh Man....so it is true that you are done with FLY? CRAP!! Sorry to see you go. I still like the idea behind FLY tho, even if I don't have a bunch. Sure wish I would have known you were selling. I'd like to buy a few more. Not enough for a bunch...is sux to be poor.

I'm sure FLY will miss you. Good Luck.

and Thanks,
CapnBDL
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legendary
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November 23, 2015, 11:23:08 AM
OK..thanks....all I knew was to withdraw my coins to v 1.7.1. Just making sure.

Hey, I see you have XRA in your sig. Are you a dev for them too? I only have a few but it hasn't been doing very good. Hanging onto the few I have.

Thanks,
CapnBDL
      Cool

Yep, XRA is working quite nicely, have had no reason to make any forks or additions to the code because the blockchain is performing exactly as it should!


But from investors side it was very wise from Vegas, to warn us, before something could get worst! We are really working on a serious coin and handle it like a business...Also, we can make mistakes, like u!

If we fully understand UR bugs, we can move on and everything will work smoothier than before!

Greetz
Meta

I didn't make this last fork, so the bugs are not mine. And to be honest keez has done an amazing job with what I have seen in the commits. When I created the additional transaction fee code, it was something that had never been done or seen before and is quite complex. keez added another even more complex layer to the code, and of course there are bound to be bugs with this level of complexity and on vegas' time table of get it done tomorrow or I will blow everything up.

Realistically it would be great if vegas had a more accomodative/non-adhd timeline where the developer could use testnet for a few weeks to make sure everything works as it should and make proper bug fixes. Unfortunately the timetable is much different and major protocol updates are being crammed in way to fast.

I have now sold out the majority of my FLY but still have a few lingering around to play with. I will continue watching the thread and hopefully vegas will post the full details about what is going on, instead of just private messaging them only to crestington.
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November 23, 2015, 11:18:18 AM
So long as cryptopia plans to get to the correct version of the wallet when it is available and they keep the wallet in maintenance mode so you cannot withdraw until they have it on the correct version, there should be no reason to move your coins at all. I think their may be a fundamental misunderstanding here.. you cannot erase balances from the blockchain, unless you roll back the chain.

I suppose some of the confusion here is that the information about what is going on is for some reason being kept private. Why is the most honest guy in crypto keeping secrets is one of the questions I have about this.

Like u wrote, it seems, it was a totally misunderstanding, how the exchanges work.

But from investors side it was very wise from Vegas, to warn us, before something could get worst! We are really working on a serious coin and handle it like a business...Also, we can make mistakes, like u!

If we fully understand UR bugs, we can move on and everything will work smoothier than before!

Greetz
Meta

Thanks for keeping us so informed. I don't know code or how exchange coding works either, so I am doing my best to keep the FLY investors informed. Some of them never bother to read the thread and depend on..'FuD' or the crap they read in the troll-rooms. I try to give them the straight scoop, as I understand it. But the tech stuff is over my head. Trying to put it into common days terms is tough sometimes. Most people know me in the rooms, so I'm trusted (I hope). Like my sig line says..stuck here anyway, so why not help a coin you believe in? It just me!! lol

Thanks again and as soon as I hear something, I can let others know,

CapnBDL
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November 23, 2015, 11:02:22 AM
So long as cryptopia plans to get to the correct version of the wallet when it is available and they keep the wallet in maintenance mode so you cannot withdraw until they have it on the correct version, there should be no reason to move your coins at all. I think their may be a fundamental misunderstanding here.. you cannot erase balances from the blockchain, unless you roll back the chain.

I suppose some of the confusion here is that the information about what is going on is for some reason being kept private. Why is the most honest guy in crypto keeping secrets is one of the questions I have about this.

Like u wrote, it seems, it was a totally misunderstanding, how the exchanges work.

But from investors side it was very wise from Vegas, to warn us, before something could get worst! We are really working on a serious coin and handle it like a business...Also, we can make mistakes, like u!

If we fully understand UR bugs, we can move on and everything will work smoothier than before!

Greetz
Meta
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November 23, 2015, 10:47:13 AM
 OK..thanks....all I knew was to withdraw my coins to v 1.7.1. Just making sure.

Hey, I see you have XRA in your sig. Are you a dev for them too? I only have a few but it hasn't been doing very good. Hanging onto the few I have.

Thanks,
CapnBDL
      Cool

legendary
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November 23, 2015, 10:34:51 AM
So long as cryptopia plans to get to the correct version of the wallet when it is available and they keep the wallet in maintenance mode so you cannot withdraw until they have it on the correct version, there should be no reason to move your coins at all. I think their may be a fundamental misunderstanding here.. you cannot erase balances from the blockchain, unless you roll back the chain.

I suppose some of the confusion here is that the information about what is going on is for some reason being kept private. Why is the most honest guy in crypto keeping secrets is one of the questions I have about this.
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November 23, 2015, 10:29:11 AM
So, let me get this straight...if I don't move them thru the 1.7.1 wallet update but still see them, the way it was described to me is that you won't be able to spend them or they are frozen or something. Just asking...I withdrew mine anyway. It was OK to redeposit on Cryptopia once I did that, correct?

Thanks,
CapnBDL
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legendary
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November 23, 2015, 09:17:19 AM

I have been offline and away since the fork.  So from what I have read on the thread is the FLY that was in Cryptopia this morning is gone?

If I look in my account in Cryptopia my balance is still there and the wallet is in maintenance mode.

Will the balance still be there once the wallet is back online on Cryptopia?

@midnight_miner not sure as of yet.  There was some bug in the code and Vegas advised everyone to withdrawl to their personal wallet.  We are awaiting instructions.
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November 23, 2015, 02:30:21 AM

I have been offline and away since the fork.  So from what I have read on the thread is the FLY that was in Cryptopia this morning is gone?

If I look in my account in Cryptopia my balance is still there and the wallet is in maintenance mode.

Will the balance still be there once the wallet is back online on Cryptopia?
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November 23, 2015, 01:38:50 AM
Thanks for letting us know vegas. Much appreciated.
legendary
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November 22, 2015, 11:33:57 PM
Ok so there are some fee errors, and so the FLY wallet is in maintenance mode for tonight on crytopia. I have spoke with the admins at Crytopia and emailed Keesdewit. So no money will be lost, its just on hold. So as it is late , we will resolve this tomorrow. Again thanks for your patience.

Vegas
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November 22, 2015, 10:24:48 PM
Hi vegasguy,

I have a small problem. I was running late this morning and forgot to withdraw 5.69672940 FLY from YoBit. I got home from Church just as the time was expiring, but I guess not in time. And JEEZ LOUISE, after I warned everyone about this too. I feel like the biggest dope. I suppose it is lost forever, huh? Please...no favors, because if you make an exception for me, someone else will want the same. I'm just sayin'....I guess there is 5 more that never get claimed in the chain.

OK..so, what is up with the new wallet. Can I let people know that it is OK to use V1.7.1 with Cryptopia? What if anyone lost FLY during whatever needed to be fixed?

Thanks...just trying to keep Team FLY informed but didn't want to disturb your nap...I am sure you guys have been working hard.

Thanks,
CapnBDL
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legendary
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November 22, 2015, 08:54:47 PM
I am really hoping my withdrawals are not lost here. I followed the instructions of updating the wallet then withdrawing.
They seem to be stuck in 'processing' and the blockchain is still moving


This was the entire issue. Let me know if you have any stuck transactions and send me the tx data and I will compensate you. I am truly sorry Sad

Vegas

Thanks man. Great service. I am not in panic mode at all.
I have submitted a ticket to Cryptopia for missing withdrawals and they are still working on it.

Ill let you know how it goes. Get some sleep.

This is the MOST important thing that must be said. Im not perfect. In fact far from it. All I can guarantee you is this.

1. I will ALWAYS do my best for everyone. If there is a bug, and a transaction is lost, I will personally make it right.
2. If in the future there is a bug in the code, I will do everything to correct it as fast as possible.

I think I just tried too many new ideas too fast. This is my first coin and im doing things that have NEVER even been tried in crypto before. They ARE working, but man, its been a struggle, and much more difficult than I ever imagined.

Anyway, I tried to lay down, but Im restless. I cant help thinking about today.

Vegas
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November 22, 2015, 08:40:33 PM
I am really hoping my withdrawals are not lost here. I followed the instructions of updating the wallet then withdrawing.
They seem to be stuck in 'processing' and the blockchain is still moving


This was the entire issue. Let me know if you have any stuck transactions and send me the tx data and I will compensate you. I am truly sorry Sad

Vegas

Thanks man. Great service. I am not in panic mode at all.
I have submitted a ticket to Cryptopia for missing withdrawals and they are still working on it.

Ill let you know how it goes. Get some sleep.
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