Topic: Olympic Games, but doping is allowed?! (Read 1149 times)

Well, personally I think that things when doping is discussed is something very extensive, also not only in the Olympics, which is where this type of act should not be done, but in cycling, the most famous of all, Armstrong, was a cyclist who won almost all the laps where he Participated, and at the last one they determined that he had to return all his prizes because he was found to be doping , and that the prizes went to him only for the seconds in his category at that moment, it is or in raelida It caused a lot of trouble worldwide, because he was a cyclist who already had a reputation. Those who called to give him his prizes did not accept it, because it was something that had already happened , and despite the fact that it was something that they should have been looking for from a long time ago. In the beginning, it was not the idea that at this point he would have to pay for that, there was no longer a trail and the other cyclists let him Know that.

Lance Armstrong Is the Dirtiest Cheater in Sports History


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This is just a sample of what this Cyclist did and undid , so the Authorities at that time were somewhat careless, not to mention what happened with Maradona, because it is one of the things that he himself did to perform in games and play So, when we go to the level of an Olympics, as I have already said on several occasions, this is a very crazy game, there should never be any doping attempt, because it is a great lack of respect for these sports, the drugs will never be good, and even less to make them perform or make them feel that things in their country can make them feel bigger or that they can have another type of capacity, for that reason I consider that things when it comes to the Olympics It is another level, it must be extremely clean, and yes, they must make more specialized organizations so that they do not allow doping in any way What would the example to follow be , or who would try to imitate them? Children.

Those who say that Olympic athletes does not use doping, how can you explain then how they set and beat world and Olympic records during preparations on their local gyms or stadiums, but later, during Olympics, end on 10th or lower places. Or if we all have similar bodies, two hands, legs and a head, how come someone runs significantly faster? Running seems easy. All you need is a pair of sneakers and a straight line, and go ahead, train. But now, one athletes runs 20-30 faster than the other. People can say - take a look, that one athlete who won is a prodigy, of a million. Ok, but then why those 8, or those who qualified, run faster than thousands of other runners?

It's not something unusual to see athletes using doping in the Olympics, it's just that if it wasn't banned why should we talk about it here because it's not something that is prohibited, but if it's banned I'm sure any athlete won't use it, it's common for doping to be used to make athletes perform better and win the competition in the olympics,

You are right that we will not find athletes who are clean even for cheating we are used to it and not only in the Olympics, even in school whether it is any competition it is certain that to win the competition we have to do a little bit of cheating to be able to win it, so in my opinion as long as it is allowed, it is normal, it does not rule out the possibility that we all know athletes using doping is a common thing.

Very good point. Olympic games consist of how many, 20-30 disciplines now? Now every discipline is exciting to watch. In fact, the existence of some of them among Olympic sports is questionable for me. For example who watches skateboarding? What about surfing? Are these disciplines even shown on tv ? The popularity and interest to Olympic games are decreasing. Allow doping (not in every sport) and it will get more exciting

The issue with the Olympic games is very simple, most of the sports and disciplines are not really popular, this is why over the years the Olympic committee changed the rules for some sports and they allowed professional players instead of just allowing amateurs, this increased the ratings of sports like basketball and tennis which are popular sports, but for the rest of the sports this is not possible, as it is not as if people go crazy about archery or other similar sports.

With or without doping, people only remember winners and forget losers. No matter how clean you are, if you lose, you lose, even if later the athlete that won got caught. Everyone will remember the winner, no one cares about post Olympic games doping scandals, taken off medals. In fact no one takes them from a winner, the other guy just get second set of medal, unofficially, without cameras and etc.

I am sure that everyone at least once cheated at school or university. But one one takes your diploma away. I am sure you have seen other guys cheated, but did little or cared little about it. I dont believe in fairy tales of a clean athletes that went to Olympic games. Every athlete takes something extra to perform better.

But if you are an athlete to any event during Olympics, you would want to at least grab a medal.
Because most countries are giving money rewards depending on the medal you got from your game.
The audience may be declining but if you are the first person in your country to get a gold medal, for sure, you will be treated as celebrity and you will receive a lot of perks from all those sponsors.
The interest of people maybe changing but I can say, Olympic games can still fetch a good audience as there are still spectators on every game they offer. As you said, consider their relatives, friends, and colleagues alone.  
They are just more as digital audience rather than physical attendees of the games, which for me, is very understandable, after we experienced the pandemic era.
And when it comes to doping subject, there will always be an athlete who is guilty of this. However, I still believe that most are not, as they are relying on their skills, and years of doing such sports.

I agree with the doping rules you mentioned. These substances have a positive effect if consumed according to the rules, because they increase strength and increase self-confidence, but long-term consumption of these substances can cause damage to the bodies of athletes who consume them. In my opinion, these substances are used by athletes who do not believe in their abilities, so they must first use these substances in order to appear in the Olympics. But as long as they can control what they take, I think it's fine.

And I'm also sure that there are still many athletes who are confident and very confident without doping. They prefer to keep practicing in order to get strong physical fitness and endurance.

I'm sure it's not. If I'm not mistaken, the rating of the Olympic Games is falling every year and fewer people are watching them. In many sports, the audience probably generally consists of the athletes themselves and their relatives  The Olympic Committee is trying to change this trend by introducing new sports like snowboarding and the like, but it seems to me that 90% of young people don't give a damn about the Olympics.

If anyone asked me what the most important sport event on the planet is, I think I would not say it is the Olympic.
Sure, it has its own merits as global event where people can partake and bring medals home, but in comparison the Football World Club is more followed and it receives more attention.

Let us imagine if someone wanted to create an alternative version of the World Cup, but allowed players to dope themselves to increase their performance, I think it would not reach to have a fraction of the success the original WC has, still, there would be some people interested, but not enough to support such concept in the long term, in my opinion. It would similar in the case of an alternative Olympic Games.

It is important not to make it go international because it will worsen the sport's image internationally. Legalizing it in one area would be acceptable, but hopefully, it will not. If it's legalized for an international event like the Olympics or the World Cup, I can't imagine how everyone will react when they see the consumption of drugs that can increase player's stamina. It would cheat other players who want a sporty sport. Those with natural talent would also have their game disrupted because they would lose to other players who took the drugs.

There's a lot of sports event globally that being performed every year and some of them coincide with the Olympic. This is not a general concern anymore since Olympic is already established as the most prestigious sports event in the world. There's already Paralympic games as a version of Olympic games for person with disabilities.

I don't see any problem on establishing different sports event that is unique to Olympics.

Their is already one Olympic game which is most important one,people give more importance to that game.If new Olympic come to the world games,the old game will not have their own importance.The Olympic with dope will spoil the Olympic culture and the society.The old Olympic doesn't allow the people who consume the dope to the game and also take the medal after finding of he used of dope.So the existing Olympic strictly prohibited doping at any mode,before game or at the time of game.The Old Olympic had created many star players and the players get most recognition in their country after Olympic medals.

Well, as I said before, the Olympics Cannot be tarnished with doping, drugs, it's that they shouldn't even care that there is a category with people who are Doped because that would be Accepting it little by little, there are already many things in the world that are being lost , Respect and everything that has been done in the world, great things have been lost, now they have even tried to confuse children with all the things that come out, if something like this is accepted, then they will begin to Indoctrinate with children, that children can take drugs if they want, so these types of things are what should be avoided, in sports something can never be dirty , Everything has to be clean, things should not be allowed with them and with athletes are lost, because then many things will be lost.

The Olympic Games will always be a pillar of Cleanliness, of what Boxing can always do , one of the things that should be talked about is sports, the way it is played, like when the boxers at the last Olympics He gave the Japanese thing, which I thought was something unacceptable, at least for me I see things that way.

Along with the Olympic Games and all the trajectory they have had, the north cannot be lost, they cannot be blurred because of what very few want to achieve , now it is very important the things they can do as long as it is under effort typical of the athletes themselves , in fact when a jgudaro gets sick while in the games, that natural Medicine be applied to them, and that they improve at the moment that it has to be done, because something of a mg that is from a drug that is not within standards should be disqualified, many things can be put that way and it has happened in some athletes, this should be the only reason under which Things are positive in doping, but things are as they are, they should not Compete  because substances that do not are allowed should not be Overlooked, this should Always be the Case.

Well that's the idea. But at the same time how would they really be able to control the levels of tren and uppers that these athletes would take before events if they're letting these PEDs from being used in the first place? There's a reason why these Performance-Enhancing Drugs are banned, and if such an event existed where people are able to take as much dope as they want to improve their ability it would utterly ruin the integrity of the tournament itself.

As for the doping technicalities that would be a problem too. People could hide how much dope they had in their system through various means, what makes the organizers think that these athletes will abide by the rules?

If creating a full branch of sports for those that want to use enhancing drugs could keep them away from the clean branch that does not use it then it would be worth it, but those people will try to keep participating on the clean branch anyway, why do you think all sports make a point of trying to catch the ones that use those substances if an improved performance was all what mattered? They do it because they know people do not like those athletes, just look at Lance Armstrong, did he reach financial fortune by cheating? Of course, but he is now a pariah and no one will claim at all that he was a good athlete and instead he is remembered as one of the worst cheaters we have ever seen on sports, if people like Armstrong want to create their own sports which allow those substances then let them, and lets see if they can survive for longer than a year without the support of the fans.

Serenity is important in the game. If they create another Olympic game for dippers it won't make sense like it is a sports because they can start a fight right there as they are not in control of themselves, the substance will have greater control of them. The organizers have a reason that they don't taste participants for drugs until after they have performed and this is to make the suspense of the game real and to show there is dopping rules also. I have seen different Olympic games where the runner up become the winner because the initial winner was disqualified for failing the taste. Having another Olympic games for people that will use drug means the organizers are encouraging the use of drugs and the abuse of it in our daily lives.

I hope they will not allow this any kind of drugs. Let them use their own potential and do not let them use it, sooner or later it will have some bad effects in their body. In other games or sports it is very prohibited and it they are doing some blood test before the game because they won't allow this, let them show how natural strength and natural skills and talent came out , it will be a waste if they will use this instead of their hard owned talent.

It's quite funny to me because I know that some might not agree with this because they aren't ready for what you've said as they believed it is the opposite

Little did they know that it has already happened behind the curtains, even before, but didn't generate enough noise because it's already common inside the organization to use some kind of PEDs to enhance their players. Well, of course not all of them but we cannot deny that since then, many are already using some tricks to have an advantage against another.

Sad thing is that they do testing before and after athletes perform. So they let clean and not clean athletes perform together. Majority of doping scandals happens already when the competition is over, or even when the Olympic games are over. That is why I see no point of not allowing it. It just looks stupid. What is the point of not allowing, when both athletes performs simultaneously. Either make two separate Olympic games, for those who use and who doesnt. But one thing, without doping, Olympic games wont be as bright as now, as interesting to watch as used to, we wont see any new records.