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Some conditions (even purely legal sports practise with extended exercise etc.) I've seen in recent sport careers have led to premature death and also health issues after leaving the game.  It is relevant then, if you are worse off within 10 or 20 years then it cost more then you believed it would.  For most people drug use isnt worth it, we use drugs in hospitals and medicine because its required but for sport or entertainment the answer is quite clear that its not a risk worth taking quite often thats become obvious.
Hopefully, this gives serious attention to the regulators so as not to allow matches that use these drugs because more negative impacts might arise later if the matches were held. Regulators must discuss with all parties involved to find out what the impacts are, both positive and negative. When there are more negative impacts, the regulators can just stop everything. This is for the good of the athletes and the fans because the fans will not think about the consequences of the drugs. They could have consumed the drugs from the promotions carried out by the athletes.
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I don't think this should be considered in the first place, infact people should start WHO should kick against this because it's drug abuse and doesn't promotes fairness in sports, giving upper hands to cheaters, making the efforts of those who work hard to merit their medals seem like a waste, this could also promote drug abuse because most teenagers around the world would out of ignorance want to use drugs to enhance themselves as well.

If an athlete feel they have full potential and would want to unlock it, then they should  embark on serious trainings and exercises that could help them increase their level of performance, because many athletes could become addicted and abuse the drugs after the competition, they should also consider the effect this drugs could cause to the health of athletes,it could cause damages to their organs or a mental health disorder as well as Anxiety, insomnia, stroke, etc regular use of drugs by athletes could also make them aggressive so it shouldn't be considered.
Basically, the effect of such drugs that are used by athletes have nothing to do with dizziness or any kind of effects that drugs like cocaine or weed have on a person when they do it, all these drugs do is enhance the abilities within the body of a person unless they have a negative reaction and do damage instead of enhancement but that depends on the body type of a person and how allergic or non-absorbent their blood basically is, but that's a different thing.

I do agree that health organizations shouldn't allow this from happening because if a whole tournament allows this and each and every athlete start taking drugs to perform better, there will surely be consequences to that a lot of players whose body won't take the drug positively, so there will be issues later on.
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The management shouldn't allow this because it ruins the reputation of their business and the image of the olympic games. These athletes aren't a good example especially to young aspirants who adolizes the sports. No sponsors will support this type lf olympic and bettors shouldn't support it either since they are promoting drugs and other illegal activities.
Any supporters or sponsors who will suport them will also have their reputations ruined so they should be skeptical and wise even if it could help them make money. I hope these athletes would change their mind as early as possible as it might affect their whole profession negatively.
Athletes' careers will be wrecked if they remain hidden while using these substances, which is preferable in some cases but not in sports. Taking substances in order to improve one's ability to do well on the track is completely prohibited. While certain authorities may have deemed it legal, I am opposed to it since not all athletes can endure the strong influence of these drugs when they begin to work on the body. We all enjoy sports, but seeing an athlete injecting drugs quietly should result in permanent disqualification and ban. Most of these drugs might induce the victim to become a drug addict, which is a very poor sign of the individual in question.
Just because you want popularity and sacrifice your future is not really worth it.
Like you said it will only keep you in shape for a while but after dependence it will be harmful to the athlete's health.
On the other hand we also know a lot of athletes who stumble over cases like this which resulted in their careers being destroyed. in this case a real example might be Lance Armstrong who made his career destroyed because of the doping that was done so in this case rather than destroying careers and making the body damaged it would be better if something like that was not done for athletes.
That would really be giving out that lifetime kind of regret just because you are really that aiming on getting that popularity and fame on which on the time that your body or health would be mainly affected then it would
surely be having the toll on which it would be resulting on destroying your career. Somewhat i cant blame out on why athletes would really be going into this option because who doesnt really want on being known or top athlete on beating up those regular ones who hadnt been able to dope? Sacrificing your career and your health isnt something that would really be worth on doing so. Why they cant really just base up on their own capacity without the needing of doping? Sometimes people do really goes into a certain situation for you to have that kind of option because of aiming high but well its a personal choice and for you that someone
who is engaging on this one do should really know about the risks.
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Some conditions (even purely legal sports practise with extended exercise etc.) I've seen in recent sport careers have led to premature death and also health issues after leaving the game.  It is relevant then, if you are worse off within 10 or 20 years then it cost more then you believed it would.  For most people drug use isnt worth it, we use drugs in hospitals and medicine because its required but for sport or entertainment the answer is quite clear that its not a risk worth taking quite often thats become obvious.
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Lets be real, long term drug usage even under the best guidelines and control by a doctor leads to weakness not strength in the human body.   Nothing can really beat the great design we start out with, things can go wrong and then we need correction but its temporary and the drugs usually have their own downside some of which can build up over weeks, months years into a maybe fatal vulnerability.   I think people who require organ donations then require this life time drug use to stay compatible with the organ, theres no choice but on that subject it might have the best long term feedback data for drug usage always everyday to boost a bodies response etc.

I agree. I think people and those athletes may end up giving a wrong message to the general public. If people started to see how their performance changes with the use of those drugs, an important percentage of the population could get prompted to use those substances, ignoring the long term impact they could have on them.

Unfortunately, most of us do not meditate on the effects of what we consume could have on our bodies and minds as years pass by.
Most of sport bettors wouldn't not mind to throw some money and bet on those, though.

On the other hand, most athletes their career has a limited lifespan; so even if in the long end, drug usage leads to nothing, it will boost the performance in the active years which is what they want. I don't think that sports people that are using doping are worried about the effects when they retire from the sport.
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Lets be real, long term drug usage even under the best guidelines and control by a doctor leads to weakness not strength in the human body.   Nothing can really beat the great design we start out with, things can go wrong and then we need correction but its temporary and the drugs usually have their own downside some of which can build up over weeks, months years into a maybe fatal vulnerability.   I think people who require organ donations then require this life time drug use to stay compatible with the organ, theres no choice but on that subject it might have the best long term feedback data for drug usage always everyday to boost a bodies response etc.

I agree. I think people and those athletes may end up giving a wrong message to the general public. If people started to see how their performance changes with the use of those drugs, an important percentage of the population could get prompted to use those substances, ignoring the long term impact they could have on them.

Unfortunately, most of us do not meditate on the effects of what we consume could have on our bodies and minds as years pass by.
Most of sport bettors wouldn't not mind to throw some money and bet on those, though.
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I don't think this should be considered in the first place, infact people should start WHO should kick against this because it's drug abuse and doesn't promotes fairness in sports, giving upper hands to cheaters, making the efforts of those who work hard to merit their medals seem like a waste, this could also promote drug abuse because most teenagers around the world would out of ignorance want to use drugs to enhance themselves as well.

 If an athlete feel they have full potential and would want to unlock it, then they should  embark on serious trainings and exercises that could help them increase their level of performance, because many athletes could become addicted and abuse the drugs after the competition, they should also consider the effect this drugs could cause to the health of athletes,it could cause damages to their organs or a mental health disorder as well as Anxiety, insomnia, stroke, etc regular use of drugs by athletes could also make them aggressive so it shouldn't be considered.
This is also an important point, young people look up to their favorite athletes, if everyone began doping then this would send the message to the young people that this is an accepted behavior by society and they will begin to do it too, since their favorite athletes do it they might as well do it themselves, so those athletes not only will be damaging their bodies by the excessive use of performance enhancing drugs, they will also damage a lot of impressionable people as well.
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To me, one the beauties of Olympic is the fact that doping is considered as a huge abomination to the game which makes athletes of the sports to always be cautious of the kind of food or drink they consume so that they won't test positive.
The brain behind this "Enhanced game" surely want to corrupt many young people in to believing that doping in sports is actually good and sould be done
Doping is against the laws of Olympic competition, but most countries have made it legal, which is completely poisoning the cognitive abilities and performance of the athletes. Some competitors will even take overdoses simply to be better than their opponents. PEDs (Performance Enhancing Drugs) are another slang term used by these athletes to improve their performance, yet I think it's completely inappropriate to recognize an athlete on drugs, especially a drug addict, he or she can go extra mile to satisfied him or herself with drugs,  these drugs have repercussions.

I really don't think they accept doping, it's not fair, because this can be considered as having an advantage over others, it's not good and it shouldn't be, yes, I know that in some competitions they are talking about accepting certain substances and it's not considered doping, but in the Olympic games, which is generally the representation of the fairest game that can exist, this should not be tolerated.

In Colombia, a law for the consumption of Cannavis is approved, the government wants to do it, with that they eliminate the problem of drug trafficking, they say that if they legalize drugs the problem will decrease and the business will fall, and well then I don't know what to think.

But in sports it is not good at all, less so in the Olympic Games because the Olympic Games represent a great example for everyone, especially for children, and the fact that they are confusing children with gender with things like drugs already seems to me to be too much, there must be and exist freedoms, but so many things that are so bad should not be, because our children are forming, whatever they see they will eat, and they are the future, just imagine that Children decide as adults, what will we have in the future? There would be no more doctors, engineers, top athletes, there would be nothing good.

Personally, you should always do everything possible to fight against drugs, against doping, that each athlete finds his way to have incentives through his own effort and not because of doping, that the force comes from the person.
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So I came across a video on youtube about someone planning on creating a new type of Olympic games called "the Enhanced Games" to rival the Olympic games. In this version of "Olympic games", performance-enhancement drugs that are usually prohibited to be used by the athletes competing in the Olympic Games will be allowed to be used.

the president of "the Enhanced Games" believes that this competition could unlock the athlete's true potential and will obliterate all the world record that has been set in the Olympic games. from what I have read in an article, they are planning on launching this event next year in December.

now, the reason why I post this here is because since a lot of sports bettors here love sports I am curious about what you guys think about it and whether this would be a new sporting event that will be enjoyed by sports betting enthusiasts.

personally, as a person who likes sports, I am curious about what this new sporting event that allows the usage of performance-enhancement drugs could lead to.

the video I stumbled upon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h49A-2Zv8dA

some articles about the topic
https://apnews.com/article/australia-olympics-enhanced-games-doping-24462bcf8f1f97125a8234bea5723ff3
https://dotesports.com/general/news/the-enhanced-olympics-where-drugs-are-welcome-sounds-like-its-from-a-dystopian-video-game
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/jun/30/the-enhanced-games-a-drugs-olympics-where-cheaters-can-prosper

I don't think this should be considered in the first place, infact people should start WHO should kick against this because it's drug abuse and doesn't promotes fairness in sports, giving upper hands to cheaters, making the efforts of those who work hard to merit their medals seem like a waste, this could also promote drug abuse because most teenagers around the world would out of ignorance want to use drugs to enhance themselves as well.

 If an athlete feel they have full potential and would want to unlock it, then they should  embark on serious trainings and exercises that could help them increase their level of performance, because many athletes could become addicted and abuse the drugs after the competition, they should also consider the effect this drugs could cause to the health of athletes,it could cause damages to their organs or a mental health disorder as well as Anxiety, insomnia, stroke, etc regular use of drugs by athletes could also make them aggressive so it shouldn't be considered.
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Lets be real, long term drug usage even under the best guidelines and control by a doctor leads to weakness not strength in the human body.   Nothing can really beat the great design we start out with, things can go wrong and then we need correction but its temporary and the drugs usually have their own downside some of which can build up over weeks, months years into a maybe fatal vulnerability.   I think people who require organ donations then require this life time drug use to stay compatible with the organ, theres no choice but on that subject it might have the best long term feedback data for drug usage always everyday to boost a bodies response etc.

Yes, nothing beats the traditional way on how to be a good athlete on your desired sports because by going through the process, you are not just training your body because that also means that you are training your mind as well to reach your full potential and be in the rightful place where you want to be. Besides, these drug enhancements aren't suitable to use in the first place because it will always leave a negative effect to the users body which can lead to various organ disorders or much worse than that.

I don't know where did this idea came from but it's certainly not be as entertaining as they imagined it because it would be a total mess if they will push this through.
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personally, as a person who likes sports, I am curious about what this new sporting event that allows the usage of performance-enhancement drugs could lead to.

It will not become a battle of stamina anymore but a battle of performance-enhancing drugs and it will become a big joke they are breaking records because of the drugs they are using, big drug companies will sponsor them but the participants will ruin their bodies and this could lead to addiction for users.
I don't think this kind of idea should be supported it will banish our belief in human excellence in sports if we used performance-enhancing drugs.
Rightly said, many people's faith will be lost for this and many players will lose their achievements and honor after being caught doping. It harms the body but many people feel and feel more energy in the body if they increase the number of red blood cells in the blood. If a player artificially increases the number of red blood cells in his body to store more energy but then damages the body. By participating in any competitive sport, it does not imply natural prowess. Also, the effectiveness of this enhancement drug does not last very long and poor performance is seen at the end of the game.
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Lets be real, long term drug usage even under the best guidelines and control by a doctor leads to weakness not strength in the human body.   Nothing can really beat the great design we start out with, things can go wrong and then we need correction but its temporary and the drugs usually have their own downside some of which can build up over weeks, months years into a maybe fatal vulnerability.   I think people who require organ donations then require this life time drug use to stay compatible with the organ, theres no choice but on that subject it might have the best long term feedback data for drug usage always everyday to boost a bodies response etc.
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personally, as a person who likes sports, I am curious about what this new sporting event that allows the usage of performance-enhancement drugs could lead to.

It will not become a battle of stamina anymore but a battle of performance-enhancing drugs and it will become a big joke they are breaking records because of the drugs they are using, big drug companies will sponsor them but the participants will ruin their bodies and this could lead to addiction for users.
I don't think this kind of idea should be supported it will banish our belief in human excellence in sports if we used performance-enhancing drugs.
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The management shouldn't allow this because it ruins the reputation of their business and the image of the olympic games. These athletes aren't a good example especially to young aspirants who adolizes the sports. No sponsors will support this type lf olympic and bettors shouldn't support it either since they are promoting drugs and other illegal activities.
Any supporters or sponsors who will suport them will also have their reputations ruined so they should be skeptical and wise even if it could help them make money. I hope these athletes would change their mind as early as possible as it might affect their whole profession negatively.
Athletes' careers will be wrecked if they remain hidden while using these substances, which is preferable in some cases but not in sports. Taking substances in order to improve one's ability to do well on the track is completely prohibited. While certain authorities may have deemed it legal, I am opposed to it since not all athletes can endure the strong influence of these drugs when they begin to work on the body. We all enjoy sports, but seeing an athlete injecting drugs quietly should result in permanent disqualification and ban. Most of these drugs might induce the victim to become a drug addict, which is a very poor sign of the individual in question.
Just because you want popularity and sacrifice your future is not really worth it.
Like you said it will only keep you in shape for a while but after dependence it will be harmful to the athlete's health.
On the other hand we also know a lot of athletes who stumble over cases like this which resulted in their careers being destroyed. in this case a real example might be Lance Armstrong who made his career destroyed because of the doping that was done so in this case rather than destroying careers and making the body damaged it would be better if something like that was not done for athletes.
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So I came across a video on youtube about someone planning on creating a new type of Olympic games called "the Enhanced Games" to rival the Olympic games. In this version of "Olympic games", performance-enhancement drugs that are usually prohibited to be used by the athletes competing in the Olympic Games will be allowed to be used.
This will be like a joke to the world of sports and will never get attention from athletes, because real athletes will always prioritize sportsmanship, and one form of sportsmanship is not using drugs that can make players stronger and so on.
This Olympics will only be a discourse, and will never be able to compete with actual sports whose matches prioritize sportsmanship. In fact, it is very possible that if there are athletes who are willing to take part in these Olympics, they will receive sanctions from the athlete's sports organization.
Maybe this Olympics will only be a television spectacle, and the athletes who compete are not real athletes, they are just like movie actors, like a WWE wrestling match that looks real but it's not, or it will be like the Ninja Warrior show, and the orientation is to get profit not to build a better sport, the audience will be large if it is packaged properly because people always need entertainment.
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The management shouldn't allow this because it ruins the reputation of their business and the image of the olympic games. These athletes aren't a good example especially to young aspirants who adolizes the sports. No sponsors will support this type lf olympic and bettors shouldn't support it either since they are promoting drugs and other illegal activities.
Any supporters or sponsors who will suport them will also have their reputations ruined so they should be skeptical and wise even if it could help them make money. I hope these athletes would change their mind as early as possible as it might affect their whole profession negatively.
Athletes' careers will be wrecked if they remain hidden while using these substances, which is preferable in some cases but not in sports. Taking substances in order to improve one's ability to do well on the track is completely prohibited. While certain authorities may have deemed it legal, I am opposed to it since not all athletes can endure the strong influence of these drugs when they begin to work on the body. We all enjoy sports, but seeing an athlete injecting drugs quietly should result in permanent disqualification and ban. Most of these drugs might induce the victim to become a drug addict, which is a very poor sign of the individual in question.
But I think there will be people, especially young people, who will support this drug because they see what effect they can get from it. And when this game does take place, it will probably be welcomed by these young people as they support having these drugs for their cause. But what is clear is that drugs like this can make them addicted and they have no self-confidence if they don't use the drug for activities.

It will be the same as they use drugs, where they will feel confident while using it. And there is an addictive effect if they don't use it. There should be further research on the use of these drugs before they are used by athletes so that there are no harmful effects for them.
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The management shouldn't allow this because it ruins the reputation of their business and the image of the olympic games. These athletes aren't a good example especially to young aspirants who adolizes the sports. No sponsors will support this type lf olympic and bettors shouldn't support it either since they are promoting drugs and other illegal activities.
Any supporters or sponsors who will suport them will also have their reputations ruined so they should be skeptical and wise even if it could help them make money. I hope these athletes would change their mind as early as possible as it might affect their whole profession negatively.
Athletes' careers will be wrecked if they remain hidden while using these substances, which is preferable in some cases but not in sports. Taking substances in order to improve one's ability to do well on the track is completely prohibited. While certain authorities may have deemed it legal, I am opposed to it since not all athletes can endure the strong influence of these drugs when they begin to work on the body. We all enjoy sports, but seeing an athlete injecting drugs quietly should result in permanent disqualification and ban. Most of these drugs might induce the victim to become a drug addict, which is a very poor sign of the individual in question.
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This idea has already been challenged in some form if we consider all kinds of assistance.   Theres the case of Pistorius with missing legs and carbon fiber 'blades' who wanted to race vs the entire field of sprinters, some argued his augmentation was actually too great and had become a bonus.  I believe he won that case and was allowed to compete as an equal.   I dont know I would extend this thinking to drug use but some kind of future where technology plays a greater part in human achievements is feasible.   First of all it might happen to those who lost arms or legs or were born without, allowing them to compete with various technology relates to this subject.
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The only thing athletes and the public in general need to do in order to make those ridiculous games to disappear is to not participate in them and to not watch them, that way once the organizers behind such a competition realizes no athlete worth anything is willing to participate and the public is not watching their broadcasts anyway then they will run out of money and eventually they will disband this project, and at the same time this will serve as a warning to anyone thinking about doing this again.

Doping cases have been quite a lot in Olympic games during the course of time and many good athletes have been found using it and being eliminated from the games.If they will allow the doping then this may remove some of these cases which the athletes will take anyway in different forms as science has evolved and some cases can evade the checks depending on what the athletes do.I am not in favor of doping being allowed as natural competition is the best from a fan point of view but it all depends on what the athlete does,most likely the federation of such games won't allow doping.
It is true that athletes dope in order to gain an unfair advantage over their competitors, however even if they take drugs that cannot be detected with the current methods, those methods keep improving and their samples can always be checked with those new methods and find out if they cheated anyway, so it is simply not worth it for athletes to cheat in this way, and any athlete which participated on theses games will probably be banned for life from ever participating on their sport of choosing making their participation on this competition useless as well.
Way form of cheating i would say and its not really something ethical specially if they would really be trying out to make something which cant be detected or would be find out which it is really that impossible because

once substance would enter out in our body then it would really be that could be seen or would be known about.Dont know if there's something already who had been able to create such drug or whatsoever correlated to this for it not to be detected if there would really be checks. I agree on what you do said that having these takings would really be considered cheat, why? It do really enhances up your performance compared
when you are in normal state and if the other players are taking the legit path and having no taking up or doping then they would really be having the disadvantage.

This is why it shouldn't really be allowed in the first place because this is something that wont really be that appealing on having those non-fair way on competing to each other specially on events like
this or even into those ordinary match ups.
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The only thing athletes and the public in general need to do in order to make those ridiculous games to disappear is to not participate in them and to not watch them, that way once the organizers behind such a competition realizes no athlete worth anything is willing to participate and the public is not watching their broadcasts anyway then they will run out of money and eventually they will disband this project, and at the same time this will serve as a warning to anyone thinking about doing this again.

Doping cases have been quite a lot in Olympic games during the course of time and many good athletes have been found using it and being eliminated from the games.If they will allow the doping then this may remove some of these cases which the athletes will take anyway in different forms as science has evolved and some cases can evade the checks depending on what the athletes do.I am not in favor of doping being allowed as natural competition is the best from a fan point of view but it all depends on what the athlete does,most likely the federation of such games won't allow doping.
It is true that athletes dope in order to gain an unfair advantage over their competitors, however even if they take drugs that cannot be detected with the current methods, those methods keep improving and their samples can always be checked with those new methods and find out if they cheated anyway, so it is simply not worth it for athletes to cheat in this way, and any athlete which participated on theses games will probably be banned for life from ever participating on their sport of choosing making their participation on this competition useless as well.
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