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July 09, 2023, 05:04:20 PM
#57
I think the one who wanted to organize an enhanced olympics games is a dealer of enhancing drugs.  The main purpose of launching such kind of sports is to showcase their physical enhancing drugs and is pure business and does not really have the concept of being a true athlete.

This may cater interest to all kinds of laboratories and companies that creates physical enhancing drugs but I don't think that this will be honored by the sports commission nor honor the record this event created. 
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July 09, 2023, 04:33:38 PM
#56
So I came across a video on youtube about someone planning on creating a new type of Olympic games called "the Enhanced Games" to rival the Olympic games. In this version of "Olympic games", performance-enhancement drugs that are usually prohibited to be used by the athletes competing in the Olympic Games will be allowed to be used.

the president of "the Enhanced Games" believes that this competition could unlock the athlete's true potential and will obliterate all the world record that has been set in the Olympic games. from what I have read in an article, they are planning on launching this event next year in December.

now, the reason why I post this here is because since a lot of sports bettors here love sports I am curious about what you guys think about it and whether this would be a new sporting event that will be enjoyed by sports betting enthusiasts.

personally, as a person who likes sports, I am curious about what this new sporting event that allows the usage of performance-enhancement drugs could lead to.

Hmm, the trouble with this is it encourages people to mess with chemical enhancers and the sort of doctors would would be involved are not the kind who have the care of their people at heart. It could spring all sorts of lawsuits, besides being unethical and sometimes including illegal drugs, from people who die from pushing their bodies past the limits that are intended. Besides that it does seem a bit sad that anyone would get joy from essentially watching a bunch of cheaters try to out compete each other. Drugs can let people stay up 3 nights in a row, or not feel pain (which is a useful mechanism for determining when something bad is happening) or reach heights of happiness that are unattainable off the drug - leading to much misery afterwards. There's all sorts of reasons this is a bad idea and shouldn't be done even out of freak curiosity.
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July 09, 2023, 04:24:23 PM
#55
Enhance and unlock these athletes' potential. He's still got some and that's why he said that. It's just going to be a matter of time until the authorities will even intervene on this. They'll take those drugs for enhancement and that's going to do no good with the athletes that will participate on it. I guess it's only going to be some matter in the future that this president of this org will even say that this could be a joke and will pull a card to say that it's all just a prank.

We don't know the sincerity of this, if this is just a joke or what.
But in case they will push thru this kind of event, allowing athletes to dope, I believe some of them will get into trouble.
It is because we don't know to what extent it will affect the athlete's behavior, where being impatient or aggressive can be one of the after effect.
Well, if they will make this happen, we will know if this kind of event is possible or the organizers will regret of handling this event.
The athletes may go to the extreme of using such drugs just to see how it will affect his performance, maybe, they can implement a limit of use.
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July 09, 2023, 04:17:12 PM
#54
~snip~

In my understanding sport is not compatible with doping, so I have a negative attitude towards this initiative. It seems to me that the only way to get real results in sports is through regulatory training and proper nutrition. I and many other people who support clean sport think that doping is an artificial overestimation of an athlete's physical abilities. In my opinion the same thing happens when an ex-male who recently had a sex change competes in the women's qualification. It's not playing by the rules, and neither is doping.
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July 09, 2023, 04:13:07 PM
#53
Enhance and unlock these athletes' potential. He's still got some and that's why he said that. It's just going to be a matter of time until the authorities will even intervene on this. They'll take those drugs for enhancement and that's going to do no good with the athletes that will participate on it. I guess it's only going to be some matter in the future that this president of this org will even say that this could be a joke and will pull a card to say that it's all just a prank.
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July 09, 2023, 04:01:40 PM
#52
the president of "the Enhanced Games" believes that this competition could unlock the athlete's true potential and will obliterate all the world record that has been set in the Olympic games.

Since some enhancements will be used as a boost, and these drugs are "prohibited", I couldn't consider that as a way of unlocking the "true potential" of an athlete but rather manipulating their capability into something out of their border already.

Generally, not within their respective human nature anymore.

now, the reason why I post this here is because since a lot of sports bettors here love sports I am curious about what you guys think about it and whether this would be a new sporting event that will be enjoyed by sports betting enthusiasts.

I believed it can somehow attract some sports bettors out there due to the fact that what we will see here is, the same as those usual sports in the Olympics and the only difference is, participants are cheating on their body capability. Nice to see how those boosts will end up.

However, my concern is, those prohibited enhancements drugs in the Olympics aren't just banned for nothing. Not just because it's a form of cheating but every dose of those enhancements is surely associated with a health risk that might result in something worst if regularly used. Obviously, it's just usual to expect that while these players want to gain some boost, they should pay a "high cost" in exchange and that's their own health.
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July 09, 2023, 03:21:25 PM
#51
So I came across a video on youtube about someone planning on creating a new type of Olympic games called "the Enhanced Games" to rival the Olympic games. In this version of "Olympic games", performance-enhancement drugs that are usually prohibited to be used by the athletes competing in the Olympic Games will be allowed to be used.

the president of "the Enhanced Games" believes that this competition could unlock the athlete's true potential and will obliterate all the world record that has been set in the Olympic games. from what I have read in an article, they are planning on launching this event next year in December.

now, the reason why I post this here is because since a lot of sports bettors here love sports I am curious about what you guys think about it and whether this would be a new sporting event that will be enjoyed by sports betting enthusiasts.

personally, as a person who likes sports, I am curious about what this new sporting event that allows the usage of performance-enhancement drugs could lead to.

the video I stumbled upon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h49A-2Zv8dA

some articles about the topic
https://apnews.com/article/australia-olympics-enhanced-games-doping-24462bcf8f1f97125a8234bea5723ff3
https://dotesports.com/general/news/the-enhanced-olympics-where-drugs-are-welcome-sounds-like-its-from-a-dystopian-video-game
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/jun/30/the-enhanced-games-a-drugs-olympics-where-cheaters-can-prosper

So basically what they're trying to come up with is a competition where cheating is allowed? That's just dumb. I mean there's a reason why doping is not allowed in the official olympic games, and now they're creating a similar competition with all these participants cooked up on steroids? This will literally signal a wave of teenagers that are doused on tren thinking they could get into the olympics if they take up performance-enhancing drugs, which by the way could be dangerous for the athlete if not done in moderate doses, which I doubt will be imposed anyway cause you're basically allowing your athletes to cheat the game at this point. I don't see this competition ever getting the same amount of respect or acclaim that the international olympics receive, not only is it ridiculous, it's also endangering the athlete's welfare by allowing them to partake in these unhealthy practices for the sake of getting some semblance of competitive advantage.
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July 09, 2023, 03:12:44 PM
#50
I wouldn't bet on this. Not only is it not balanced at all, so you don't really know who is on what, but also it's promoting doping.
This is a stupid idea if you ask me. Some people will argue that in normal games if you can get away with it you'll have the advantage, but truth tends to come out sooner or later, as the story of Lance Armstrong proves.
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July 09, 2023, 02:40:17 PM
#49
the president of "the Enhanced Games" believes that this competition could unlock the athlete's true potential and will obliterate all the world record that has been set in the Olympic games. from what I have read in an article, they are planning on launching this event next year in December.
Lol, the world at its wildest version... True potential is what you can do without any damaging drugs on your body, valuing your health at first place. What is the point of using heavy drugs to boost your performance on the currently moment, but dying from a heart attack, overdose or aneurysm on yout 20's or 30's? What this president of "Enhanced Games" said sounds really sadistic to me.

I see why it was called an Enhanced Games in the first place because the players will be allowed to use PEDs and other substance to enhance whatever needed in a player's body and whatever sport would it be used. As far as I can tell, it's kind of funny by the way because I never thought that there would be a plan like this and truth to be told, the president was probably so doped that he thought of this kind of format.
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July 09, 2023, 01:26:45 PM
#48
I personally lean on the opinion that using performance enhancing drugs is kind of anti-competitive and goes against what the Olympic games stand for.

However, I am not fully closed to the idea of this event taking place, who knows, perhaps there could be people that get interested and even would even bet on the events of this new format for the Olympic games.

Also, I would be concerned for the health of those who participate, if this new Olympic Games became popular, it could translate to a increase of use of such drugs by athletes, to the point of being detrimental to them, and could even encourage young people to use those drugs to get better results faster. The cultural impact should be also be considered.

There are risks in using performance-enhancing drugs and it's one of the killers. It will not take effect immediately but like any other drug, the visible effect will only be seen after a long use of it. It's addictive as well seeing a low-esteem kid will boost his confidence because he discovers women like his 6 packs tummy just like the Liverking.

Approving this kind of Olympic is like ignoring those rules in sports and the likes of USADA and WADA.
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July 09, 2023, 01:15:21 PM
#47
All I know is that skill enhancement consumables mostly have negative effects to the body of the player who would take on it. Ofcourse they would have a better performance and strength than their usual but if it would be bad in the future, then we are just destroying the futuristic vision towards players. I think it would be still better for players tonjist be themselves. Enhancements indeed improves the body of players but for sure not all players would be able to take such or grab into this opportunity sinply because of what we called "tradition" and sportsmanship. Sports are temporary so putting your life into sich tricks, would really matter.
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July 09, 2023, 12:55:41 PM
#46
I personally lean on the opinion that using performance enhancing drugs is kind of anti-competitive and goes against what the Olympic games stand for.

However, I am not fully closed to the idea of this event taking place, who knows, perhaps there could be people that get interested and even would even bet on the events of this new format for the Olympic games.

Also, I would be concerned for the health of those who participate, if this new Olympic Games became popular, it could translate to a increase of use of such drugs by athletes, to the point of being detrimental to them, and could even encourage young people to use those drugs to get better results faster. The cultural impact should be also be considered.
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July 09, 2023, 11:22:37 AM
#45
So I came across a video on youtube about someone planning on creating a new type of Olympic games called "the Enhanced Games" to rival the Olympic games. In this version of "Olympic games", performance-enhancement drugs that are usually prohibited to be used by the athletes competing in the Olympic Games will be allowed to be used.
This idea is outrageous, these performing-enhancing drugs can ruin the body remember those wrestlers that take performing-enhancing drugs and their bodies have been ravaged that is why they are banning these drugs because it has bad effects on the body in the long term.

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the president of "the Enhanced Games" believes that this competition could unlock the athlete's true potential and will obliterate all the world record that has been set in the Olympic games. from what I have read in an article, they are planning on launching this event next year in December.
That's a big lie, of course, athletes should not use drugs to enhance their performance because the body has a limit on how far it can perform, the organizers will be liable if these athletes that will participate suffer from a debilitating condition, I don't think it will be supported by countries, we are all educated on the harmful effects of these drugs and it's like putting your precious athletes in harm.


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July 09, 2023, 10:50:40 AM
#44
[....]the president of "the Enhanced Games" believes that this competition could unlock the athlete's true potential
I'm already lost in this part. I find it to be contradictory since it's no longer true potential when you use enhancers.

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now, the reason why I post this here is because since a lot of sports bettors here love sports I am curious about what you guys think about it and whether this would be a new sporting event that will be enjoyed by sports betting enthusiasts.
Would I bet on it? I don't know. If there's some sort of regulation in place to somehow balance the playing field then maybe it's worth taking a look. It should be clear what kind of PEDs and the level each of these athletes could take. It will only benefit the financially capable if their intake isn't monitored and controlled.
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July 09, 2023, 10:16:17 AM
#43
now, the reason why I post this here is because since a lot of sports bettors here love sports I am curious about what you guys think about it and whether this would be a new sporting event that will be enjoyed by sports betting enthusiasts.
I have read many times about the Olympic tournament or the types of sports to bet on, for me the answer is below.
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“We know next to nothing about this organization but sport needs to be clean and it needs to be safe for all athletes,”

It seems that I have to study first how the sport is contested and played, from Aaron D'Souza's talk, it looks interesting, but still we have to see and what this statement means.
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a sort of Olympics without drug testing which he says “will obliterate all the world records” by “unlocking human potential.”
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July 09, 2023, 09:09:32 AM
#42
If the game uses performance-enhancing drugs, how can players unlock the true potential of athletes because they use doping to do so.
That's true it's not going to be a battle of the athletes' true potential but drug companies who can enhance the athletes' performance, these athletes will become drug companies' guinea pigs in the end these athletes will suffer from different malfunctions of the bodies because these drug enhancing performance have serious side effects to the body.
This is the most ridiculous idea these organizers can think, anyway the organizer has a bad reputation, I don't think he will contribute to the world of sports by promoting the use of performance-enhancing drugs.
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July 08, 2023, 07:16:18 PM
#41
If the game uses performance-enhancing drugs, how can players unlock the true potential of athletes because they use doping to do so. Perhaps later, there will be players who will think that they have to use performance enhancing drugs more than other players to unlock their true potential and make themselves a winner. If so, it's not the aim of sports but only to make money from entertainment, and we are still determining whether people will enjoy the event or leave it because it doesn't fit the theme of sports. During this time, the use of doping is a serious violation and will be disqualified by the organizers and may not even compete for some time. But I don't know. Sometimes humans nowadays seem to have lack of ways to enjoy a match so that humans make an event that looks eccentric from the others.
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July 08, 2023, 12:26:46 PM
#40
the president of "the Enhanced Games" believes that this competition could unlock the athlete's true potential and will obliterate all the world record that has been set in the Olympic games. from what I have read in an article, they are planning on launching this event next year in December.
Lol, the world at its wildest version... True potential is what you can do without any damaging drugs on your body, valuing your health at first place. What is the point of using heavy drugs to boost your performance on the currently moment, but dying from a heart attack, overdose or aneurysm on yout 20's or 30's? What this president of "Enhanced Games" said sounds really sadistic to me.

now, the reason why I post this here is because since a lot of sports bettors here love sports I am curious about what you guys think about it and whether this would be a new sporting event that will be enjoyed by sports betting enthusiasts.
Of course it would incite the curiosity of many people around the world and there could be a public to gamble on these games, however, I don't like the idea of endorsing in anyways.
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July 08, 2023, 12:18:06 PM
#39
I was always considering this I mean what kind of athletics we would watch if they completely allowed doping? Well I am sure we would watch machines looking like humans... Those things they will use to increase performance will mess their body for sure. Gambling-wise, they would all have same standards so it could work - their competitions could be part of gambling. But does it really worth to have such games? Some people would try to modify their body like cyberpunk, man. Very bad for humanity.
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July 08, 2023, 12:12:15 PM
#38
If I'm asked, I won't favor such league. Matches under such rules might end up a battle of pharmaceutical or supplement companies. Athletes might not anymore compete out of their human abilities honed and perfected more or less naturally and with factors such as discipline, wisdom, training strategies, and so on.
now that you mentioned the highlighted part, I am certain pharmaceutical companies will take this opportunity(if this sporting event actually worked) to compete with each other to create better and more powerful performance-enhancement drugs and the athletes as their guinea pigs.

What is the point in having a roid fest where everyone is juiced to the gills, sporting events should be clean and it should be displaying skills and dedication and hard work rather than medically enhanced robots. May be it could attract fans but personally i would not care to watch these roid fests and no organization would be able to give out a license to conduct these events.  
from what the president of "the enhanced games" has said from the articles and the video I watched, the point is to take athletes to a new height by letting them take performance-enhancement drugs.


just so we are clear, despite me saying I am curious about what this sporting event could lead to, does not mean I actually support it. my view on this is that this is very interesting and I am curious what can be achieved in this sporting event.
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