Topic: Olympic Games, but doping is allowed?! - page 5. (Read 1103 times)

Quote from: maydna on July 18, 2023, 01:10:34 PM

Doping should not be allowed in any case, I do not understand who is making such insane decisions. Using drugs can be risky for the players.
Yes, the performance and energy levels of the players may increase but in the long run, this is deadly for the player themselves. I guess the players should protest against this decision.

Maybe the spectators may enjoy the enhanced player performance, but you can't risk the player's health.

The only thing athletes and the public in general need to do in order to make those ridiculous games to disappear is to not participate in them and to not watch them, that way once the organizers behind such a competition realizes no athlete worth anything is willing to participate and the public is not watching their broadcasts anyway then they will run out of money and eventually they will disband this project, and at the same time this will serve as a warning to anyone thinking about doing this again.

Doping cases have been quite a lot in Olympic games during the course of time and many good athletes have been found using it and being eliminated from the games.If they will allow the doping then this may remove some of these cases which the athletes will take anyway in different forms as science has evolved and some cases can evade the checks depending on what the athletes do.I am not in favor of doping being allowed as natural competition is the best from a fan point of view but it all depends on what the athlete does,most likely the federation of such games won't allow doping.

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The real spirit of sports lies in the stamina of the player. When they were allowed to use dope and other drugs, automatically the performance will be much on the drugs support and nothing comes out of the player. These kind of decisions were completely dangerous and the same could be a big blow in the upcoming generation's sporting life. Already from the very small age kids have begun to consume drugs and now this will make it much easier for them.

They cannot be considered true sports players because they have used drugs to help increase their stamina, which should have been banned in sports associations. Someone has to have the courage to reject this idea for whatever reason because many impacts can arise for players and people who idolize players. And consuming chemical drugs like that might have a bad impact on their health in the future. So the sports association, sports committee, or whatever you call it, should react strongly to reject it.

It will also be unfair to the people who have created records in the past if some of these players using drugs to enhance their abilities break their records because the ones who created them in the past didn't do anything like this and have made those records all with their own energy and skills and not with the help of some pills or drugs that enhance one's abilities to perform way better than a person who isn't on drugs, this shouldn't be allowed at all.

I also wonder how would people take any interest in games where they know the players have taken skill-enhancing pills to perform better, how would the fans of specific players react who are involved in these games know that their favorites are not performing well because they play well but it is all because they are on pills.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on July 18, 2023, 04:14:50 PM

Doping should not be allowed in any case, I do not understand who is making such insane decisions. Using drugs can be risky for the players.
Yes, the performance and energy levels of the players may increase but in the long run, this is deadly for the player themselves. I guess the players should protest against this decision.

Mate, the purpose of the said event is to allow the use of such drugs. Therefore, it will be allowed.

The participating players here obviously accept the terms and are interested in using such drugs.

The only thing that can stop it is if most countries will oppose that event and won't allow that to commence no matter what.

I think the one planned by the organizing of this event that allow doping will have its separate set of athletes and it may not par with the Olympics in the beginning but I believe it will eventually catch up due to the possible huge funding that supports it.

Obviously, participating athletes here are separated from the athletes in the Olympics.

I doubt the event will be successful because for sure the organizers will face lots of legal issues especially if the said enhancement drugs do have a status of being "prohibited in general" and not just for sports. Anyways, let's see then at the end of the year if this will really push.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 17, 2023, 10:29:36 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on July 15, 2023, 05:57:00 PM

I hope whoever comes up with these competitions understands that the main problem with doping is not that it is cheating, but that it is dangerous for athletes in terms of survival (as well as going beyond their normal capabilities, by the way). It is unlikely that anyone will be interested in watching a run if, say, a couple of athletes out of a thousand (I take a very modest figure - in fact it can be much more) die right on the treadmill every year. In general, I do not think that in any adequate jurisdiction this will be allowed.

Performance enhancing drug will always pose some risks to the users body and I don't see any reasons why this kind of event should be pursued because one day they will feel that they are the strongest man or athlete in the world but afterwards, the effect is unbearable as fatigue and stress will eventually catch up with them which led to a few days rests because the body will badly need it. Some are lucky to be alive to tell their own story but to some who are unfortunate enough to survive, I hope they will be a lesson for the athletes who wanted to do the same thing.

Yes, doping is a deadly risk. As far as I know, in modern sports, the highest mortality rate among professional athletes is precisely in those sports where doping is more or less condescending. And I think that many will be surprised what kind of sports they are: for example, wrestling. It would seem that there could be something dangerous in "theatrical" battles? But the problem is that actors use doping to build muscle mass and keep in shape and it kills them.

The real spirit of sports lies in the stamina of the player. When they were allowed to use dope and other drugs, automatically the performance will be much on the drugs support and nothing comes out of the player. These kind of decisions were completely dangerous and the same could be a big blow in the upcoming generation's sporting life. Already from the very small age kids have begun to consume drugs and now this will make it much easier for them.

Doping should not be allowed in any case, I do not understand who is making such insane decisions. Using drugs can be risky for the players.
Yes, the performance and energy levels of the players may increase but in the long run, this is deadly for the player themselves. I guess the players should protest against this decision.

Maybe the spectators may enjoy the enhanced player performance, but you can't risk the player's health.

This isnt only limited on athletes but also in other animals as well specially on horseracing or greyhound on which doping is really that significant to enhance out their performance but just like you do said that its not something that it would really be that ideal or something to be safe with those people or animals who had been injected or having that make use of drugs just for the sake of having that good impression and entertainment into it fans. Its true that it do really compromise out athletes health which is something that we dont really like to see or happen. It is really just that right or enough for them to play and show up their performance
on their conditioned body not on the sense on not to make or use of any drug.Its not really that necessary but it is really just that sad that there are instances and moments on which athletes do really
end up with this kind of option just to make enhancement on the sport that they are really that getting involved into specially on major events like Olympic Games on which this one shouldn't
really be allowed.

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Quote from: harizen on July 17, 2023, 07:47:12 PM

Quote from: harizen on July 17, 2023, 07:47:12 PM

The real spirit of sports lies in the stamina of the player. When they were allowed to use dope and other drugs, automatically the performance will be much on the drugs support and nothing comes out of the player.

No, there's still part of the support that naturally comes from the player. The use of doping will combine with the player's natural performance, therefore, crossing the limit of the player's capability. As mentioned by the President itself of this event, unlocking the true potential of that player.

Anyhow, looks like they are really determined and eager to push this event. I'm sure organizers will face lots of problems before it can be actually commenced. I wonder also if the event can comply with the required and necessary permits or licenses to operate knowing they will fail on the health-related concerns as the event is a sports competition. They should also follow the country's law on wherever the event will take place.

I think that the organizers are just creating a market for their doping drugs. Imagine if this kind of idea propagate, there will be a huge market for body-enhancing drugs since it will not only cover one sports but rather all sports that is listed in olympic. This is a huge business for the organizers.

But to rival the Olympics? Hell no. This is just an ordinary event for me if push.

The Olympics banned many body-enhancing drugs so that the actual talent of an athlete will be shown. I think the one planned by the organizing of this event that allow doping will have its separate set of athletes and it may not par with the Olympics in the beginning but I believe it will eventually catch up due to the possible huge funding that supports it.

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Doping should not be allowed in any case, I do not understand who is making such insane decisions. Using drugs can be risky for the players.
Yes, the performance and energy levels of the players may increase but in the long run, this is deadly for the player themselves. I guess the players should protest against this decision.

Maybe the spectators may enjoy the enhanced player performance, but you can't risk the player's health.

The only thing athletes and the public in general need to do in order to make those ridiculous games to disappear is to not participate in them and to not watch them, that way once the organizers behind such a competition realizes no athlete worth anything is willing to participate and the public is not watching their broadcasts anyway then they will run out of money and eventually they will disband this project, and at the same time this will serve as a warning to anyone thinking about doing this again.

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This is an aberration from the Olympic games that we know and have enjoyed. The beauty of Olympic games is to even see participants who have been banned from continuing on the game for such allegations of dope and taking enhancement drugs. Although this is seen as rival sports but it will gradually influence the sports games and make organisers to relax laws against enhancement drugs in sports. I have heard of sex sports in Sweden and this is also coming up, I guess we are about to see a new creation from what we know in sports soon.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 17, 2023, 10:29:36 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on July 15, 2023, 05:57:00 PM

I hope whoever comes up with these competitions understands that the main problem with doping is not that it is cheating, but that it is dangerous for athletes in terms of survival (as well as going beyond their normal capabilities, by the way). It is unlikely that anyone will be interested in watching a run if, say, a couple of athletes out of a thousand (I take a very modest figure - in fact it can be much more) die right on the treadmill every year. In general, I do not think that in any adequate jurisdiction this will be allowed.

Performance enhancing drug will always pose some risks to the users body and I don't see any reasons why this kind of event should be pursued because one day they will feel that they are the strongest man or athlete in the world but afterwards, the effect is unbearable as fatigue and stress will eventually catch up with them which led to a few days rests because the body will badly need it. Some are lucky to be alive to tell their own story but to some who are unfortunate enough to survive, I hope they will be a lesson for the athletes who wanted to do the same thing.

Yes, doping is a deadly risk. As far as I know, in modern sports, the highest mortality rate among professional athletes is precisely in those sports where doping is more or less condescending. And I think that many will be surprised what kind of sports they are: for example, wrestling. It would seem that there could be something dangerous in "theatrical" battles? But the problem is that actors use doping to build muscle mass and keep in shape and it kills them.

The real spirit of sports lies in the stamina of the player. When they were allowed to use dope and other drugs, automatically the performance will be much on the drugs support and nothing comes out of the player. These kind of decisions were completely dangerous and the same could be a big blow in the upcoming generation's sporting life. Already from the very small age kids have begun to consume drugs and now this will make it much easier for them.

Doping should not be allowed in any case, I do not understand who is making such insane decisions. Using drugs can be risky for the players.
Yes, the performance and energy levels of the players may increase but in the long run, this is deadly for the player themselves. I guess the players should protest against this decision.

Maybe the spectators may enjoy the enhanced player performance, but you can't risk the player's health.

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The real spirit of sports lies in the stamina of the player. When they were allowed to use dope and other drugs, automatically the performance will be much on the drugs support and nothing comes out of the player. These kind of decisions were completely dangerous and the same could be a big blow in the upcoming generation's sporting life. Already from the very small age kids have begun to consume drugs and now this will make it much easier for them.

They cannot be considered true sports players because they have used drugs to help increase their stamina, which should have been banned in sports associations. Someone has to have the courage to reject this idea for whatever reason because many impacts can arise for players and people who idolize players. And consuming chemical drugs like that might have a bad impact on their health in the future. So the sports association, sports committee, or whatever you call it, should react strongly to reject it.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 17, 2023, 10:29:36 AM

The real spirit of sports lies in the stamina of the player. When they were allowed to use dope and other drugs, automatically the performance will be much on the drugs support and nothing comes out of the player.

No, there's still part of the support that naturally comes from the player. The use of doping will combine with the player's natural performance, therefore, crossing the limit of the player's capability. As mentioned by the President itself of this event, unlocking the true potential of that player.

Anyhow, looks like they are really determined and eager to push this event. I'm sure organizers will face lots of problems before it can be actually commenced. I wonder also if the event can comply with the required and necessary permits or licenses to operate knowing they will fail on the health-related concerns as the event is a sports competition. They should also follow the country's law on wherever the event will take place.

But to rival the Olympics? Hell no. This is just an ordinary event for me if push.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 15, 2023, 05:57:00 PM

I hope whoever comes up with these competitions understands that the main problem with doping is not that it is cheating, but that it is dangerous for athletes in terms of survival (as well as going beyond their normal capabilities, by the way). It is unlikely that anyone will be interested in watching a run if, say, a couple of athletes out of a thousand (I take a very modest figure - in fact it can be much more) die right on the treadmill every year. In general, I do not think that in any adequate jurisdiction this will be allowed.

Performance enhancing drug will always pose some risks to the users body and I don't see any reasons why this kind of event should be pursued because one day they will feel that they are the strongest man or athlete in the world but afterwards, the effect is unbearable as fatigue and stress will eventually catch up with them which led to a few days rests because the body will badly need it. Some are lucky to be alive to tell their own story but to some who are unfortunate enough to survive, I hope they will be a lesson for the athletes who wanted to do the same thing.

Yes, doping is a deadly risk. As far as I know, in modern sports, the highest mortality rate among professional athletes is precisely in those sports where doping is more or less condescending. And I think that many will be surprised what kind of sports they are: for example, wrestling. It would seem that there could be something dangerous in "theatrical" battles? But the problem is that actors use doping to build muscle mass and keep in shape and it kills them.

The real spirit of sports lies in the stamina of the player. When they were allowed to use dope and other drugs, automatically the performance will be much on the drugs support and nothing comes out of the player. These kind of decisions were completely dangerous and the same could be a big blow in the upcoming generation's sporting life. Already from the very small age kids have begun to consume drugs and now this will make it much easier for them.

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