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Anyone following boxing?

https://twitter.com/ben_damon/status/1419879557524381696

One boxer, Morocco’s Youness Baalla tries a Mike Tyson move on New Zealand’s David Nyika and bite his ear. Not sure what Youness is thinking, but I'm sure he is going viral now. Grin

Not a very intelligent thing to do, when the whole world is suffering from the pandemic. What was he trying to do here? Was he looking for some cheap publicity? Anyway, now he (Youness Baalla) can practice his biting skills at home, because in all probability he will not be allowed in to the boxing ring again. Or maybe he can try his luck in MMA. These sort of guys are in good demand in that sport. BTW, I head that Baalla is now playing the race card. He is claiming that he is being punished for being black.

Is he actually trying to justify himself that way when we can clearly see that he is trying to bite the other fighter on his ear? Some people really think that we must be really dumb to think we are going to buy that, he deserved to be disqualified and I think an exemplary punishment should be given to him, I understand that the boxing world was lenient with Tyson since he was Tyson but I really think he deserves a lifetime ban from the Olympics and from all the boxing associations as well.

First, Mike Tyson is not God and he's not above the boxing rules. Before now there's a certain penalty is already set for Boxer whoever make this move and I believe it is not a lifetime ban.
I believe the officials present at the scheme know what they are doing and they also have certain rules and regulations they have to follow when an issue like this occurs.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 29, 2021, 07:20:59 PM

It is regrettable that racism problems arise at the Olympic Games, many campaigns have been carried out to prevent this type of act, human behavior of this style is totally deplorable in the current situation we live in:

German official sent home from Tokyo Olympics after making racist remarks

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Reuters reported that Moster was heard shouting, "Get the camel drivers, get the camel drivers" at Nikias Arndt, who was trailing Azzedine Lagab from Algeria and Amanuel Ghebreigzabhier from Eritrea.

Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/patrick-moster-german-cycling-director-olympics-racist-remarks/

The worst of all is that these comments are by the same sports director of the German cycling federation, a person who should be an example for everyone, falls into this type of act. Although he later apologized, he said that it was not his intention to offend anyone, but I think that he should have thought about it before, currently these things in sport should not be said.

Good thing is, the Committee didn’t tolerate this one, I think Simone Biles also experience the same thing from other athletes and even with their own team. Players should not just focus on their skills and talent, they should also know how to respect other people. Well, this is a competition but they should play by the rules to avoid this kind of problem that can ruin their reputation.

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It is regrettable that racism problems arise at the Olympic Games, many campaigns have been carried out to prevent this type of act, human behavior of this style is totally deplorable in the current situation we live in:

German official sent home from Tokyo Olympics after making racist remarks

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Reuters reported that Moster was heard shouting, "Get the camel drivers, get the camel drivers" at Nikias Arndt, who was trailing Azzedine Lagab from Algeria and Amanuel Ghebreigzabhier from Eritrea.

Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/patrick-moster-german-cycling-director-olympics-racist-remarks/

The worst of all is that these comments are by the same sports director of the German cycling federation, a person who should be an example for everyone, falls into this type of act. Although he later apologized, he said that it was not his intention to offend anyone, but I think that he should have thought about it before, currently these things in sport should not be said.

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Why does Indonesia have such a low sports achievement at the Olympics as well as at the SEA Games? I mean, your capital, Jakarta, has almost triple the population of my entire country, and we've already won two golds and a few bronze medals. We're also very good at the Winter Olympics.

I am in Indonesia and have heard a lot of this news. There are many news rumors that the government is not totally in support of Indonesian athletes. Due to the COVID-19 emergency pandemic. even here people still stay at home and self-isolation and many strict prohibitions for events that invite crowds. So it's no wonder that not as many athletes are sent as usual. and congratulations to your country if you get a lot of medals.

In my country there's also a limited support from the government but our athletes works very hard and ask for the private companies to fund them and it works. I don't know the system of Indonesia but hopefully their athletes wont lose hope and continue to work until they achieve their big dreams. This Olympic shows a lot of drama already, but still kudos to the committee for making this possible despite of the pandemic.

That's the issue on many athletes but since there's a lot of private institutions who are willing to help, some of them was able to go to the podium and win some medal. A huge population doesn't mean a lot of athletes maybe some are don't want to participate at all but still congrats to those who are trying enough to at least go on a bigger stage. We are near to close this Olympic, bigger countries are leading all the way, it's good that they have a good system with regards to supporting their athletes.

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Quote from: joker_josue on July 29, 2021, 05:27:11 PM

After another day of games, we have China with the most medals achieved, followed by Japan and then the United States.

Today was also the day that Portugal got a bronze medal. Roll Eyes

My country Venezuela has also achieved a medal in these Olympics. I also feel in solidarity with your country Portugal. Our athlete Julio Mayora won the silver medal in the men's weightlifting discipline 73 kilograms.

In a few hours a favorite athlete from our country who could win the gold medal or any other will compete, Yulimar Rojas in the discipline of Women's triple jump.
She participates in group A with competitors from the US, Jamaica and Kazakhstan.
Those who make it to the Olympics are very high-performance athletes.
Good luck to you all! 🤞

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Quote from: South Park on July 29, 2021, 06:06:49 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 28, 2021, 10:19:56 AM

Quote from: Jating on July 28, 2021, 08:30:19 AM

Anyone following boxing?

https://twitter.com/ben_damon/status/1419879557524381696

One boxer, Morocco’s Youness Baalla tries a Mike Tyson move on New Zealand’s David Nyika and bite his ear. Not sure what Youness is thinking, but I'm sure he is going viral now. Grin

Not a very intelligent thing to do, when the whole world is suffering from the pandemic. What was he trying to do here? Was he looking for some cheap publicity? Anyway, now he (Youness Baalla) can practice his biting skills at home, because in all probability he will not be allowed in to the boxing ring again. Or maybe he can try his luck in MMA. These sort of guys are in good demand in that sport. BTW, I head that Baalla is now playing the race card. He is claiming that he is being punished for being black.

Is he actually trying to justify himself that way when we can clearly see that he is trying to bite the other fighter on his ear? Some people really think that we must be really dumb to think we are going to buy that, he deserved to be disqualified and I think an exemplary punishment should be given to him, I understand that the boxing world was lenient with Tyson since he was Tyson but I really think he deserves a lifetime ban from the Olympics and from all the boxing associations as well.

I think that boxer Youness Baalla in his desperation because he was losing felt the desire to bite David Nyika's ear of course it is an unsportsmanlike action.
In an interview David Nyika said that it was unfortunately the referee did not see what was happening.
When I saw the image I immediately remembered when Tyson bit part of Evander Holyfield's ear, Tyson was disqualified and his boxing license revoked for a few months so I remember that anecdote.

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Quote from: joker_josue on July 29, 2021, 05:27:11 PM

After another day of games, we have China with the most medals achieved, followed by Japan and then the United States.

Today was also the day that Portugal got a bronze medal. Roll Eyes

In terms of golds yes but overall US is in the medal.lead by a couple. Once track and field comes on board that will be interesting to see how that affects the medal count. Not sure which country is favored in T&F. Games have been fun to watch so far. Looking forward to the next couple of weeks.

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Quote from: joker_josue on July 29, 2021, 05:27:11 PM

After another day of games, we have China with the most medals achieved, followed by Japan and then the United States.

Today was also the day that Portugal got a bronze medal. Roll Eyes

Asians Doing better than the European's over here...im a little bit perplexed with this.... Portugal getting a bronze today?
This is serious.

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Quote from: Marvelman on July 29, 2021, 06:36:16 AM

Why does Indonesia have such a low sports achievement at the Olympics as well as at the SEA Games? I mean, your capital, Jakarta, has almost triple the population of my entire country, and we've already won two golds and a few bronze medals. We're also very good at the Winter Olympics.

I am in Indonesia and have heard a lot of this news. There are many news rumors that the government is not totally in support of Indonesian athletes. Due to the COVID-19 emergency pandemic. even here people still stay at home and self-isolation and many strict prohibitions for events that invite crowds. So it's no wonder that not as many athletes are sent as usual. and congratulations to your country if you get a lot of medals.

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Have you seen the slap ritual of a coach before his athlete goes into fight?
This is now viral: Olympic athlete slapped in face by coach in pre-fight ‘ritual’

Hell yeah! Exactly how my wife wakes me up each morning! Grin

We can relate with this ritual.

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Quote from: tabas on July 29, 2021, 06:28:04 AM

Have you seen the slap ritual of a coach before his athlete goes into fight?
This is now viral: Olympic athlete slapped in face by coach in pre-fight ‘ritual’

To be honest, when I opened the link, I expected to see something more shocking. This is a common spanking and in many sports it is a routine phenomenon (for example, in weightlifting) associated with the fact that the athlete is thus trying to get an additional rush of adrenaline. Maybe this video went viral because of the preliminary shaking that the trainer did to begin with?

Yeah it doesn't look that much to us but before the coach slapped the woman, it seems that she has been slapped already. It may look normal to us but this scenario made buzz in the Olympics.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 28, 2021, 10:19:56 AM

Quote from: Jating on July 28, 2021, 08:30:19 AM

Anyone following boxing?

https://twitter.com/ben_damon/status/1419879557524381696

One boxer, Morocco’s Youness Baalla tries a Mike Tyson move on New Zealand’s David Nyika and bite his ear. Not sure what Youness is thinking, but I'm sure he is going viral now. Grin

Not a very intelligent thing to do, when the whole world is suffering from the pandemic. What was he trying to do here? Was he looking for some cheap publicity? Anyway, now he (Youness Baalla) can practice his biting skills at home, because in all probability he will not be allowed in to the boxing ring again. Or maybe he can try his luck in MMA. These sort of guys are in good demand in that sport. BTW, I head that Baalla is now playing the race card. He is claiming that he is being punished for being black.

Is he actually trying to justify himself that way when we can clearly see that he is trying to bite the other fighter on his ear? Some people really think that we must be really dumb to think we are going to buy that, he deserved to be disqualified and I think an exemplary punishment should be given to him, I understand that the boxing world was lenient with Tyson since he was Tyson but I really think he deserves a lifetime ban from the Olympics and from all the boxing associations as well.

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Quote from: joker_josue on July 29, 2021, 05:27:11 PM

After another day of games, we have China with the most medals achieved, followed by Japan and then the United States.

Today was also the day that Portugal got a bronze medal. Roll Eyes

Japan has already surpassed its gold medal result at the previous Olympics in Rio. An excellent result considering the early stage of the competition. Will Japan be able to compete for a place in the top three? The first two places, in my opinion, are quite understandable - the United States and China.

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After another day of games, we have China with the most medals achieved, followed by Japan and then the United States.

Today was also the day that Portugal got a bronze medal. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 29, 2021, 06:45:34 AM

It does not matter where you live. What matters is money. You can live on the moon, train there and be the Olympic gold medallist. But money is only 50% of the success. For example UAE has all the money of the world, but they are rarely seen on the pedestal.

I agree that money is not always the deciding factor. National politics can also play a substantial role.
Post-communist countries generally have a lot of top athletes. Because medal counts were a matter of national and ideological pride during the Cold War, communist governments like the Soviet Union, East Germany or Cuba were able to allocate government resources much more efficiently to build sporting giants. In spite of its poverty and small population, Cuba has won more than twice as many Summer Olympics medals than, for instance, Brazil. ^(source)

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Quote from: TimeTeller on July 27, 2021, 07:28:27 PM

I was rooting for Simone Biles to snatch golds in this Olympics, but seems that it will not happen anymore.
Let us just respect what she is going thru, because it is said that medical issue was the reason why she pulled out.
But I believe, it is more of mental struggle on her. And it is hard to go thru that phase and compete where everybody is watching.
Maybe, we will see her again in other competition, if in case, she will not announce her retirement to this sports.

I really think the delay of a whole year took a toll on her, we must remember that even if she is 24 years old and for our standards that is very young for the standards of artistic gymnastics that is really old, if the pandemic had not happened then that would have meant one year less of training and then she could have competed and retire from the sport, but she had to grind yet another year and to me this is catching up to her at the worst possible time.

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Quote from: FatFork on July 29, 2021, 07:22:37 AM

Quote from: tabas on July 29, 2021, 06:28:04 AM

Have you seen the slap ritual of a coach before his athlete goes into fight?
This is now viral: Olympic athlete slapped in face by coach in pre-fight ‘ritual’

Hell yeah! Exactly how my wife wakes me up each morning! Grin

lol, I have to search the effect of morning slaps on short term performance and long term health Tongue

Well I saw that slap on reddit and I found it a way of motivating the player. Dunno why people and officials condemned this since the player didn't show to be surprised and already mentioned it was her demand. The only thing that surprised me is her nationality, thought it was Russian or from an ex-USSR country. Well after all shaking and slapping isn't effective all times!

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Quote from: tabas on July 29, 2021, 06:28:04 AM

Have you seen the slap ritual of a coach before his athlete goes into fight?
This is now viral: Olympic athlete slapped in face by coach in pre-fight ‘ritual’

To be honest, when I opened the link, I expected to see something more shocking. This is a common spanking and in many sports it is a routine phenomenon (for example, in weightlifting) associated with the fact that the athlete is thus trying to get an additional rush of adrenaline. Maybe this video went viral because of the preliminary shaking that the trainer did to begin with?

I bet it's very motivating... when you get slapped like this you are ready for the real fight, whoever comes next! I didn't see this, now the coach is facing criticism, as we can read in the article... I am not sure what to think, is it OK or not... I believe they are not doing this for the first time, after all, this is a fighting discipline, so this "motivational slapping" can be good! Just my opinion, if they are crazy enough to fight, why not have some crazy preparation for the fight! So I agree with KTChampions here, this video is not so shocking as a sensational headline sounds to be!

If that's a ritual means it's there before and they are continuing to practice it before starting the fight, just for my own opinion Roll Eyes

I agree that it helps to build additional rush and keeping the heat inside you.

It helps mentally that you are eager to take down whoever facing you after feeling that anger, such hard slapped like that,
you'll try to find way to release that anger.

We dont' know why but it's between coach and players/fighters to understand the value of it.

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Tight competition in Tokyo Olympics, I am happy my country has won 3 medals even though it is only one silver and two bronze medals. It's all in Weightlifting. I hope for the next medal is from badminton. Because the two Indonesian representatives in the men's doubles are both group winners, so they have the opportunity to present the All Indonesian Final. Although previously they had to compete in the quarterfinals and semifinals for the final match.

Why does Indonesia have such a low sports achievement at the Olympics as well as at the SEA Games? I mean, your capital, Jakarta, has almost triple the population of my entire country, and we've already won two golds and a few bronze medals. We're also very good at the Winter Olympics.

I think the size and the population of the country is not the decessive factor there is always the methode of preparations and the ressources given to the athletes by their respective federations for example my country got 0 medals so far in tokyo and only one in the previous two olympics even if the national football team do a great job and we have some quality athletes.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 29, 2021, 06:45:34 AM

Quote from: Marvelman on July 29, 2021, 06:36:16 AM

Why does Indonesia have such a low sports achievement at the Olympics as well as at the SEA Games? I mean, your capital, Jakarta, has almost triple the population of my entire country, and we've already won two golds and a few bronze medals. We're also very good at the Winter Olympics.

Do you really want to discuss that ? Having high population isnt enough to have a future Olympic champion. I might be wrong, but Indonesia was never counted as super rich country. Even if there is a future Olympic champion somewhere in the country, a lot of money must be invested in training process, support and etc. Frankly, I have never heard about any famous coaches from Indonesia. That means athletest most probably need to train abroad, or hire a coach.

In my country, all the expenses on sport (training, uniform, coach, renting a place to train and etc) are paid by parents. There is almost no support from country. The country or the government involves only when you get a medal and money price - they immediately ask to pay the tax.

It does not matter where you live. What matters is money. You can live on the moon, train there and be the Olympic gold medallist. But money is only 50% of the success. For example UAE has all the money of the world, but they are rarely seen on the pedestal.

Yup, thats really make sense. We cant be the champion in the Olympic just based on the lucky Without full support for training for athletes. Their abilities will be measured based on training, flight hours, and facilities. How can we win in the Olympics where the opponents are all over the world without ever thinking about the quality of sports education in schools. It's simple, to be a champion of the asian games is difficult how to become a champion in the olympics.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 29, 2021, 12:07:23 PM

Quote from: tabas on July 29, 2021, 06:28:04 AM

Have you seen the slap ritual of a coach before his athlete goes into fight?
This is now viral: Olympic athlete slapped in face by coach in pre-fight ‘ritual’

To be honest, when I opened the link, I expected to see something more shocking. This is a common spanking and in many sports it is a routine phenomenon (for example, in weightlifting) associated with the fact that the athlete is thus trying to get an additional rush of adrenaline. Maybe this video went viral because of the preliminary shaking that the trainer did to begin with?

I bet it's very motivating... when you get slapped like this you are ready for the real fight, whoever comes next! I didn't see this, now the coach is facing criticism, as we can read in the article... I am not sure what to think, is it OK or not... I believe they are not doing this for the first time, after all, this is a fighting discipline, so this "motivational slapping" can be good! Just my opinion, if they are crazy enough to fight, why not have some crazy preparation for the fight! So I agree with KTChampions here, this video is not so shocking as a sensational headline sounds to be!

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