Olympics 2020/2021 : Discussion & Predictions - page 33.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on July 19, 2021, 01:52:37 PM

It is not going to be a "record breaker" Olympics this year, because the spectators usually boost the participants performance and not having them there, will definitely have an impact.

I am more worried about participants testing Covid positive whilst they are there and them and the persons they had direct contact not competing and having to go into isolation. (That will be heartbreaking for individuals and teams and the nations backing them... when that happens.) Sad

Pretty sure that they will trying to do a Olympic Bubble there so they can help at the least prevent or contain the infection, that's what my country did in the PBA, they made a bubble where no one can get out for the duration of the league. I think the extensive tests done is probably enough.

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In the last Olympic Games, in 2016, the United States won a total of 121 medals. Following China (70) and Great Britain (67).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Summer_Olympics

All-time Olympic Games medal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_Olympic_Games_medal_table

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Quote from: stadus on July 19, 2021, 04:06:08 PM

It's not worth taking the USA, with that odds, that is very low although USA has been so consistent since they have been dominating. I would rather bet on China with 6.50 odds as they always make surprises. Your $1000 will win $100 for US bet, while your $100 will win $650, I'd take the latter all day.

The odds are so unfavorable, because the chances of China toppling US is very minimal. If you are talking about one or two individual sports, then there is a chance of an upset. But here we are talking about the medals tally, which combines the outcome from dozens of sports and disciplines. Upsets occurring in the majority of these sports items is impossible IMO. Even with -900 odds for the United States, I would happily make a bet in their favor. Because their chances are not 90% (as the odds imply), but greater than 99%.

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Quote from: stadus on July 19, 2021, 04:06:08 PM

Quote from: iv4n on July 19, 2021, 10:27:40 AM

Anyone betting on the number of medals and the number of gold medals!? Stake has a very interesting offer:
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Judging by these odds, the USA will dominate this year! But even with odds x1.1, it's not like it's guaranteed... maybe we can see some surprises!

It's not worth taking the USA, with that odds, that is very low although USA has been so consistent since they have been dominating. I would rather bet on China with 6.50 odds as they always make surprises. Your $1000 will win $100 for US bet, while your $100 will win $650, I'd take the latter all day.

I agree with you... but I must say that odds for over/under 42.5 gold medals and over/under 110.5 total medals look tempting! I did a little research...

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At the 2016 Rio Olympic Games there were 28 sports with 41 disciplines, and a total of 306 events. Therefore you would expect that there were 306 medal sets (gold/silver/bronze) to be awarded, a total of 918 medals.

So looks like betting over in gold and total medals for the US looks good, x1.55 and x1.75! Same works for China, nice odds for over/under bets, and definitely a nice odd for a nation with the most medals!

I will give it a thought or two before I place some weird bets on this! This is very interesting in my opinion!

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Quote from: Kakmakr on July 19, 2021, 01:52:37 PM

It is not going to be a "record breaker" Olympics this year, because the spectators usually boost the participants performance and not having them there, will definitely have an impact.

I am more worried about participants testing Covid positive whilst they are there and them and the persons they had direct contact not competing and having to go into isolation. (That will be heartbreaking for individuals and teams and the nations backing them... when that happens.) Sad

Yeah it's definitely going to happen and agree it will be tragic for those involved. Just imagine training all your life then fi ally getting a shot to participate in the greatest event for your sport and represent your country and you have to withdraw due to a fever. These people dedicate their lives to their respective sport I hope it doesn't happen but inevitably it will. Undecided

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Quote from: iv4n on July 19, 2021, 10:27:40 AM

Anyone betting on the number of medals and the number of gold medals!? Stake has a very interesting offer:
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Judging by these odds, the USA will dominate this year! But even with odds x1.1, it's not like it's guaranteed... maybe we can see some surprises!

It's not worth taking the USA, with that odds, that is very low although USA has been so consistent since they have been dominating. I would rather bet on China with 6.50 odds as they always make surprises. Your $1000 will win $100 for US bet, while your $100 will win $650, I'd take the latter all day.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 19, 2021, 03:14:19 PM

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Yes, this tournament is a bit different from usual, athletes have excuses when they perform poorly in competition and no one can blame him
On the other hand, Japanese athletes are more mentally advantaged, that's why I doubt the dominance of USA in the Olympics this time

LOL.. do you really think that Japan will be able to challenge the American dominance? Japan was placed #6 last time, behind UK, China, Russia and Germany. This time, at the most they may be able to finish at 3rd or 4th position. I don't expect anything more than that. Great Britain was the surprise package last time, as they managed to finish ahead of China. But I guess this time China will be having the upper hand. Russia is going through a lot of turmoil. So I don't expect them in the top-5 this time (last time they were 4th).

When it comes to Olympic games USA is always top 1. It's really hard to overcome them because they are a very competitive country which truly incentivizes and invest in sports. Athletes have a lot of opportunities to practice and develop their skills since early life, different from other countries where financial issues make this impossible, since people have other daily priorities to accomplish. However, excellency demands strict conduct and that is something that has been falling during the last years due to the fact people don't want to follow rules anymore, instead they just do what they want, as they want and when they want.

Without any doubts it will affect athletes efficiency at some point and when this happens USA will see its performance in sports decreasing, as the country is full of people following this philosophy of life. An example is the athlete who was caught using drugs and now can't participate the games anymore.

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Quote from: iv4n on July 19, 2021, 10:27:40 AM

Judging by these odds, the USA will dominate this year! But even with odds x1.1, it's not like it's guaranteed... maybe we can see some surprises!

Apart from China, there is hardly any competition for the United States right now. Back in the 1970s and 1980s, the communist block of countries used to dominate the medals table (USSR, GDR.etc). Then the USSR was dissolved and the Eastern European nations also went through a rough patch. Former-USSR countries topped the medals table in 1992, but after that their performance went down. And the last straw was the doping scandal involving Russia. This time the Russian contingent is not even allowed to compete under the Russian flag.

indeed, seems that it is important for the USA to dominate medal tables, as it was in "cold war" era
odds are very low, and it will almost certainly come to place, but most medals are for Athletics, Swimming and Gymnastic, which are highly individual, and some positive Covid results on top favorites could change the situation, where one man could get "few" gold medals, so I would skip betting on that

Yes, this tournament is a bit different from usual, athletes have excuses when they perform poorly in competition and no one can blame him
On the other hand, Japanese athletes are more mentally advantaged, that's why I doubt the dominance of USA in the Olympics this time

The coaches/trainers will understand what has happened. So, we can't say they can't be blamed. In my view, they'll blamed if there is no effort and has gone as a one-sided game. The dominance of USA will continue in the Olympics, because the way it trains the players is completely different. Maybe this time Japan will give little more competence with the home advantage.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on July 19, 2021, 02:33:28 PM

Yes, this tournament is a bit different from usual, athletes have excuses when they perform poorly in competition and no one can blame him
On the other hand, Japanese athletes are more mentally advantaged, that's why I doubt the dominance of USA in the Olympics this time

LOL.. do you really think that Japan will be able to challenge the American dominance? Japan was placed #6 last time, behind UK, China, Russia and Germany. This time, at the most they may be able to finish at 3rd or 4th position. I don't expect anything more than that. Great Britain was the surprise package last time, as they managed to finish ahead of China. But I guess this time China will be having the upper hand. Russia is going through a lot of turmoil. So I don't expect them in the top-5 this time (last time they were 4th).

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Quote from: casperBGD on July 19, 2021, 01:17:10 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on July 19, 2021, 12:18:23 PM

Quote from: iv4n on July 19, 2021, 10:27:40 AM

Judging by these odds, the USA will dominate this year! But even with odds x1.1, it's not like it's guaranteed... maybe we can see some surprises!

Apart from China, there is hardly any competition for the United States right now. Back in the 1970s and 1980s, the communist block of countries used to dominate the medals table (USSR, GDR.etc). Then the USSR was dissolved and the Eastern European nations also went through a rough patch. Former-USSR countries topped the medals table in 1992, but after that their performance went down. And the last straw was the doping scandal involving Russia. This time the Russian contingent is not even allowed to compete under the Russian flag.

indeed, seems that it is important for the USA to dominate medal tables, as it was in "cold war" era
odds are very low, and it will almost certainly come to place, but most medals are for Athletics, Swimming and Gymnastic, which are highly individual, and some positive Covid results on top favorites could change the situation, where one man could get "few" gold medals, so I would skip betting on that

Yes, this tournament is a bit different from usual, athletes have excuses when they perform poorly in competition and no one can blame him
On the other hand, Japanese athletes are more mentally advantaged, that's why I doubt the dominance of USA in the Olympics this time

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It is not going to be a "record breaker" Olympics this year, because the spectators usually boost the participants performance and not having them there, will definitely have an impact.

I am more worried about participants testing Covid positive whilst they are there and them and the persons they had direct contact not competing and having to go into isolation. (That will be heartbreaking for individuals and teams and the nations backing them... when that happens.) Sad

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on July 19, 2021, 12:18:23 PM

Quote from: iv4n on July 19, 2021, 10:27:40 AM

Judging by these odds, the USA will dominate this year! But even with odds x1.1, it's not like it's guaranteed... maybe we can see some surprises!

Apart from China, there is hardly any competition for the United States right now. Back in the 1970s and 1980s, the communist block of countries used to dominate the medals table (USSR, GDR.etc). Then the USSR was dissolved and the Eastern European nations also went through a rough patch. Former-USSR countries topped the medals table in 1992, but after that their performance went down. And the last straw was the doping scandal involving Russia. This time the Russian contingent is not even allowed to compete under the Russian flag.

indeed, seems that it is important for the USA to dominate medal tables, as it was in "cold war" era
odds are very low, and it will almost certainly come to place, but most medals are for Athletics, Swimming and Gymnastic, which are highly individual, and some positive Covid results on top favorites could change the situation, where one man could get "few" gold medals, so I would skip betting on that

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Quote from: iv4n on July 19, 2021, 10:27:40 AM

Judging by these odds, the USA will dominate this year! But even with odds x1.1, it's not like it's guaranteed... maybe we can see some surprises!

Apart from China, there is hardly any competition for the United States right now. Back in the 1970s and 1980s, the communist block of countries used to dominate the medals table (USSR, GDR.etc). Then the USSR was dissolved and the Eastern European nations also went through a rough patch. Former-USSR countries topped the medals table in 1992, but after that their performance went down. And the last straw was the doping scandal involving Russia. This time the Russian contingent is not even allowed to compete under the Russian flag.

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Anyone betting on the number of medals and the number of gold medals!? Stake has a very interesting offer:

Also, you can bet over/under total/gold medals! A few examples for the USA, China, and Germany:

Judging by these odds, the USA will dominate this year! But even with odds x1.1, it's not like it's guaranteed... maybe we can see some surprises!

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Quote from: W Jr. on July 19, 2021, 06:17:42 AM

My country, Turkey, is participating in the tournament with 108 athletes. Our favorite sport is wrestling. We expect medals in wrestling. Taha Akgül is one of our most successful wrestlers. Let's see how many medals we will get back from the Olympics as Turkey. What is your country's favorite sport?

In Philippines, I don't think that we will be even participating and if so, I don't think that a lot of athletes will participate, I know how my country takes care of my athlete and in a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 as the lowest, I would rank it as 1 probably because they don't have any support since they don't really further the agenda of politicians.

The Philippines would never dominate in the Olympics, they don't have the height to compete with the Basketball, football, and other games that height is an advantage. I believe the Phillippines are mostly good at boxing.

in the last Olympics in Rio. the Philippines has only got 1 medal a silver medal only.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Summer_Olympics_medal_table

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Quote from: W Jr. on July 19, 2021, 06:17:42 AM

My country, Turkey, is participating in the tournament with 108 athletes. Our favorite sport is wrestling. We expect medals in wrestling. Taha Akgül is one of our most successful wrestlers. Let's see how many medals we will get back from the Olympics as Turkey. What is your country's favorite sport?

In Philippines, I don't think that we will be even participating and if so, I don't think that a lot of athletes will participate, I know how my country takes care of my athlete and in a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 as the lowest, I would rank it as 1 probably because they don't have any support since they don't really further the agenda of politicians.

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I've never watched a women's football match, so don't know if there will be an interesting match for this sport, but for men's football it's for sure.

Normally, men's football in the Olympic Games is one of the less prominent sports. The players are not from the main teams, they are usually only under-23.
The female is a little different, having already the main players in the tournament.

Seems to me that maybe basketball is a bit different, right? I remember they used to have the best of the best players at one time but don't know if that changed. Hell even the USA team had stars and that's huge considering the NBA contracts.

Yes it is different. In the case of football, there are two reasons why countries do not take the best players:
- The organization of the Olympic Games does not want football to overshadow the other models, many considered amateur (although they are no longer).
- FIFA fears that the Olympic Games will become a competitor to FIFA Mudial. Hence create more limiting rules in the Olympic Games.

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Quote from: W Jr. on July 19, 2021, 06:17:42 AM

My country, Turkey, is participating in the tournament with 108 athletes. Our favorite sport is wrestling. We expect medals in wrestling. Taha Akgül is one of our most successful wrestlers. Let's see how many medals we will get back from the Olympics as Turkey. What is your country's favorite sport?

I see Turkey is ranked 7th in the world in the sport of wrestling with Japan and America as the main competitors, as host Japan is favored for wrestling Turkish athletes must be mentally prepared. Meanwhile, my country Indonesia always competes in badminton and archery usually we get gold there, the main competitors are China and Japan.

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My country, Turkey, is participating in the tournament with 108 athletes. Our favorite sport is wrestling. We expect medals in wrestling. Taha Akgül is one of our most successful wrestlers. Let's see how many medals we will get back from the Olympics as Turkey. What is your country's favorite sport?

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I'm not sure but I guess there are no qualifications for a country to participate in the olympic games. I mean If a country possessed an athletes to a specific sport, they should always qualify as long as the number of their teams and participants is appropriate to the rules. No more, no less.

The qualifications are only applicable for the players playing for a specific county. Prime example is the pureness of the player's nationality. There might be a slight controversy when a player has dual nationality.
I guess your country will be the one to choose representatives to play in the olympic games.

The hosting country will be the one to carry the torch and put it on the cauldron. So, it's gonna be Japan.

There are athletes for my country but they don't seem to be able to join the games. Also, I am a bit skeptical with who is going to be handling the torch because there's a time that Muhammad Ali was the one that lit the cauldron but I am not sure if it was an American one.

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