Olympics 2020/2021 : Discussion & Predictions - page 32.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 20, 2021, 03:13:34 PM

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Yes, the Olympics still might be canceled

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"We can't predict what will happen with the number of coronavirus cases. So we will continue discussions if there is a spike in cases," said Toshiro Muto, when asked at a news conference if the Games still could be canceled. "We have agreed that based on the coronavirus situation, we will convene five-party talks again. At this point, the coronavirus cases may rise or fall, so we will think about what we should do when the situation arises."

Source: https://fortune.com/2021/07/20/will-tokyo-olympics-be-canceled-2021-covid-19/

At the time of passing this news, the Colombian television channel Caracol is saying that there are now 6 athletes from Great Britain isolated because apparently they were infected with Covid-19, in fact the Olympic committee is considering that if the cases of Covid-19 continue increasing they will take deprivation measures or suspend the games, as well as the Brazilian soccer team that showed false positives.

and there are further reports of more COVID infections, Coco Gaugh (tennis) has tested
positive as have two US athletes, article here > https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/19/sport/us-gymnast-covid-19-positive-test/index.html

The next 48hours are crucial now, there was talk on the radio this evening that there
may be a postponement to the games instead of what is looking like a possible cancellation.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/20/sport/tokyo-2020-olympic-bubble-broken-spt-intl/index.html

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 20, 2021, 03:13:34 PM

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Yes, the Olympics still might be canceled

It is possible that they do... it was a huge loss for the organization and sponsors.

It is true that the International Olympic Committee, over the last few years, has not been very financially friendly to the organization of the games. But, I think if you do that, it will be the last straw. I think the Committee would have serious problems to resolve.

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This year the tokyo government made unique steps to prevent the spread of covid 19 for athletes and one of them by making a bed made of cardboard and called an anti sex bed, the bed was specifically designed for athletes so that the Tokyo Olympic participants did not have sex during the Olympics Grin

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So that it can minimize the spread of the Covid-19 virus in the athlete village, the current pandemic certainly forces the committee to continue to look for solutions to make the Olympics a success but also to minimize the spread of corona, moreover some Olympic athletes are reported to have tested positive for the corona virus while in the athlete village .

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Updated:

Yes, the Olympics still might be canceled

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"We can't predict what will happen with the number of coronavirus cases. So we will continue discussions if there is a spike in cases," said Toshiro Muto, when asked at a news conference if the Games still could be canceled. "We have agreed that based on the coronavirus situation, we will convene five-party talks again. At this point, the coronavirus cases may rise or fall, so we will think about what we should do when the situation arises."

Source: https://fortune.com/2021/07/20/will-tokyo-olympics-be-canceled-2021-covid-19/

At the time of passing this news, the Colombian television channel Caracol is saying that there are now 6 athletes from Great Britain isolated because apparently they were infected with Covid-19, in fact the Olympic committee is considering that if the cases of Covid-19 continue increasing they will take deprivation measures or suspend the games, as well as the Brazilian soccer team that showed false positives.

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Quote from: Strongkored on July 19, 2021, 01:38:16 AM

I've never watched a women's football match, so don't know if there will be an interesting match for this sport, but for men's football it's for sure.

Normally, men's football in the Olympic Games is one of the less prominent sports. The players are not from the main teams, they are usually only under-23.
The female is a little different, having already the main players in the tournament.

Anyone who thinks that men's football games are fun and women will not be is either not a football fan or a sexist person, which I am sure Strongkored is not, I have seen him around and he is a decent good person. So the only option is that you probably haven't watched women football for too long, sure they are not as fast, as strong, as "entertaining" as men, but they are playing fundamental football that we all love so much, and they are improving as well, women football 10-20 years ago can't even compete in today's game, they are doing much much better these days and improved a lot.

So, fundamentals+improving equals a lot of high quality football to watch. I personally prefer women Olympic football games over men very easily, it is not even close because men do not play properly and they are all trying to use it as a way to show themselves for potential teams that may buy them.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on July 13, 2021, 04:20:49 AM

Quick question, how does a country qualify to play the Olympics? I really want to see my country play but they aren't even participating so I don't exactly get what is the requirements to do be part of Olympics, also who will be carrying the torch this time?

Countries do not really qualify, countries are just part of the olympic committee or not, athletes can qualify even if their country is not affiliated to the committee or they are under some special circumstances, there are only a bunch of athletes under those circumstances but when the opening ceremony is taking place they are the ones following not the flag of their country but the olympic flag, and the athletes can only qualify if they reach a minimum mark established by the olympic committee, and if they do they can go to the olympic games.

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Toyota dropped out of Olympic games in the last moment and they are not the only sponsor to quit before the start so it is still not sure if Tokyo Olympics will be held afterall.
In the same time Japan is also having big problems with their radioactive water from last nuclear disaster, and they want to simply dump it in the ocean.
Olympics started bad and it may end up even worse.

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One of the curiosities is that the Olympic games apparently for beach volleyball athletes have found the climate very hot, in fact in the sand they say that it is hotter than normal, this also makes the humidity affect them:

Tokyo Olympics: fears athletes could face hottest Games on record

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Doubts over Tokyo’s claim in its 2020 pitch that “mild” weather in July and August would provide athletes with the ideal sporting environment were underlined in 2019, when the International Olympic Committee pressured organisers to move the marathon and race walking events to the cooler climes of Sapporo, 800km (500 miles) north of Tokyo.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/jul/20/tokyo-olympics-fears-athletes-could-face-hottest-games-on-record

During practice the players felt that it was hotter than normal, in these cases I think that the athletes should adapt to the weather, since there is no other way, however how things look, this could be the most popular games of history.

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What the Philippines need to get that multiple medals in the Olympics is a dedicated officer that will give supports to the athlete's needs and conditioning. Pilipino has lots of talents and courageous athletes that will dominate the world of sports if they have given the right support from the government but it seems like that kind of support is rarely seen nowadays. You will earn their support just after you win some medals or in the other words, you need to struggle with yourself first before getting some recognition which is the hardest part of being an athlete. As you can see, we only have one athlete that more likely gets us medal this year and that's in the weight lifting women division where she works hard before getting some kind of recognition from our country.

That's the problem, our athletes don't have the support needed which ends up with the athletes asking for donations to private entities although they represent the country, this country's athletes don't have a future here, it's better if they move to other countries where they are taken care of, look at Wesley So, he won't be flourishing if he stayed here.

Without that big support from the government, even athletes find some private businesses to bring sponsors but the type of
wide support is the one that everybody wants from the government.

It's been a long long time but still same issues and concern with the government, I echo your statement if the athletes wanted
to have a better future, leaving this place and find those who can offer is the best option to do.

But in the other hand, there's Pusong Pinoy thing and athletes wanted to dedicate their talents and skills for the glory of their motherland!

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I am looking forward to the handball tournament at the Olympics. Even if Croatia isn't participating, Olympic handball is always highly entertaining. The Swedes and Danes are in the same group and they will battle it out for the 1st place. I don't see Bahrein, Japan, or Egypt being noteworthy opponents. Portugal could be tricky, but should be beatable by the Scandinavians. The other group is much stronger with France, Germany, Spain, and Norway.

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Quote from: joker_josue on July 20, 2021, 07:37:46 AM

I totally agree with you!

I just did these maths, to respond to the @bryant.coleman - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57502568

You cannot do accounts with countries that no longer exist or with countries that were part of others.
Russia is not the same thing as the USSR.

Also, Russia is not taking part this time in the summer Olypics, because they are banned. Athletes from Russia are taking part under the banner of ROC (Russian Olympic Council). Back in 2016, it was United Kingdom which surprised everyone. I was expecting China to finish at the 2nd place, but GB managed to overtake them in the medals tally. Chinese population is getting more aged, and that may be the reason for their poor performance recently. On the other hand, UK benefits immensely from immigration of athletes from other countries.

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What the Philippines need to get that multiple medals in the Olympics is a dedicated officer that will give supports to the athlete's needs and conditioning. Pilipino has lots of talents and courageous athletes that will dominate the world of sports if they have given the right support from the government but it seems like that kind of support is rarely seen nowadays. You will earn their support just after you win some medals or in the other words, you need to struggle with yourself first before getting some recognition which is the hardest part of being an athlete. As you can see, we only have one athlete that more likely gets us medal this year and that's in the weight lifting women division where she works hard before getting some kind of recognition from our country.

That's the problem, our athletes don't have the support needed which ends up with the athletes asking for donations to private entities although they represent the country, this country's athletes don't have a future here, it's better if they move to other countries where they are taken care of, look at Wesley So, he won't be flourishing if he stayed here.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 20, 2021, 06:44:59 AM

USSR is not equal to Russia. Less than 60% of the population of the former USSR was accounted by Russia, while the remainder was distributed in the remaining 14 republics (especially Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan and Belarus). Also, the Russian team from 1896 to 1916 included countries such as Finland and Poland. For Germany, the calculation looks OK (still not perfect, as the boundaries of Germany before 1945 is very different from what it is now). Among the top-5, only the United States had constant political boundaries during entire duration of the Olympics.

I totally agree with you!

I just did these maths, to respond to the @bryant.coleman - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57502568

You cannot do accounts with countries that no longer exist or with countries that were part of others.
Russia is not the same thing as the USSR.

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The Philippines would never dominate in the Olympics, they don't have the height to compete with the Basketball, football, and other games that height is an advantage. I believe the Phillippines are mostly good at boxing.

in the last Olympics in Rio. the Philippines has only got 1 medal a silver medal only.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Summer_Olympics_medal_table

I totally and wholeheartedly agree with you, our country is so delusional in terms of sports that we should play in because there are other games that we are really good at but the support is put into the wrong discipline, there's taekwondo, karate, judo, billiards and chess that don't necessarily need height.

What the Philippines need to get that multiple medals in the Olympics is a dedicated officer that will give supports to the athlete's needs and conditioning. Pilipino has lots of talents and courageous athletes that will dominate the world of sports if they have given the right support from the government but it seems like that kind of support is rarely seen nowadays. You will earn their support just after you win some medals or in the other words, you need to struggle with yourself first before getting some recognition which is the hardest part of being an athlete. As you can see, we only have one athlete that more likely gets us medal this year and that's in the weight lifting women division where she works hard before getting some kind of recognition from our country.

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Quote from: joker_josue on July 20, 2021, 05:06:14 AM

We are talking about countries that no longer exist or that are due in 2 or 3 different countries. Making this sum would not be very balanced, even so:

USA
Total 2523 - 27 Editions - 93 medals/edition

USSR + Russia
Total 1436 - 15 Editions - 95 medals/edition

United Team of Germany + West Germany + East Germany + Germany
Total 1346 - 24 Editions (West and East participated at the same time) - 56 medals/edition

In short, there is no significant difference between the US and Russia.

USSR is not equal to Russia. Less than 60% of the population of the former USSR was accounted by Russia, while the remainder was distributed in the remaining 14 republics (especially Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan and Belarus). Also, the Russian team from 1896 to 1916 included countries such as Finland and Poland. For Germany, the calculation looks OK (still not perfect, as the boundaries of Germany before 1945 is very different from what it is now). Among the top-5, only the United States had constant political boundaries during entire duration of the Olympics.

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The Philippines would never dominate in the Olympics, they don't have the height to compete with the Basketball, football, and other games that height is an advantage. I believe the Phillippines are mostly good at boxing.

in the last Olympics in Rio. the Philippines has only got 1 medal a silver medal only.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Summer_Olympics_medal_table

I totally and wholeheartedly agree with you, our country is so delusional in terms of sports that we should play in because there are other games that we are really good at but the support is put into the wrong discipline, there's taekwondo, karate, judo, billiards and chess that don't necessarily need height.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on July 20, 2021, 03:34:07 AM

This is slightly misleading, because you are not comparing apples to apples. In the table, USA has participated in 27 editions, while the USSR is taken as a separate entity with just 9 editions. A better way to look at this would be to take the average number of medals per edition. For USA, that comes to 37.8 gold medals, while for the USSR the same figure is 43.9 gold medals. If you want to make a direct comparison, the add up Russian Empire (1896-1917), Unified Team (1992) and Russian Federation (1992- x) to the medal tally of USSR. Same with Germany as well. You need to add the medals won by FRG, GDR, United Team of Germany (1956-1964) and the German Empire.

We are talking about countries that no longer exist or that are due in 2 or 3 different countries. Making this sum would not be very balanced, even so:

USA
Total 2523 - 27 Editions - 93 medals/edition

USSR + Russia
Total 1436 - 15 Editions - 95 medals/edition

United Team of Germany + West Germany + East Germany + Germany
Total 1346 - 24 Editions (West and East participated at the same time) - 56 medals/edition

In short, there is no significant difference between the US and Russia.

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My country, Turkey, is participating in the tournament with 108 athletes. Our favorite sport is wrestling. We expect medals in wrestling. Taha Akgül is one of our most successful wrestlers. Let's see how many medals we will get back from the Olympics as Turkey. What is your country's favorite sport?

I see Turkey is ranked 7th in the world in the sport of wrestling with Japan and America as the main competitors, as host Japan is favored for wrestling Turkish athletes must be mentally prepared. Meanwhile, my country Indonesia always competes in badminton and archery usually we get gold there, the main competitors are China and Japan.

Yes, Japan is the host, but I don't think that matters much to the former Soviet states, (including Russia even tho Russia is 4th I believe), that rank highest in overall Freestyle wrestling, they are a force that's hard to disregard. And that's not even mentioning Greco-Roman wrestling where European countries like Sweden and Hungary dominate.

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Quote from: joker_josue on July 20, 2021, 03:00:02 AM

All-time Olympic Games medal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_Olympic_Games_medal_table

This is slightly misleading, because you are not comparing apples to apples. In the table, USA has participated in 27 editions, while the USSR is taken as a separate entity with just 9 editions. A better way to look at this would be to take the average number of medals per edition. For USA, that comes to 37.8 gold medals, while for the USSR the same figure is 43.9 gold medals. If you want to make a direct comparison, the add up Russian Empire (1896-1917), Unified Team (1992) and Russian Federation (1992- x) to the medal tally of USSR. Same with Germany as well. You need to add the medals won by FRG, GDR, United Team of Germany (1956-1964) and the German Empire.

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Quote from: iv4n on July 19, 2021, 05:16:47 PM

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So looks like betting over in gold and total medals for the US looks good, x1.55 and x1.75! Same works for China, nice odds for over/under bets, and definitely a nice odd for a nation with the most medals!
I will give it a thought or two before I place some weird bets on this! This is very interesting in my opinion!

interesting odds, but 110 medals is a lot, did you look at what numbers USA had in previous games?
at Rio they had 46 golds and 121 medals in total, and UK was positioned second, not China, due to gold medals count (UK - 27, China - 26), although China won 70 medals, UK 67 medals in total

while in London, USA had 46 gold medals as well, but only 104 in total, China was second with 38 golds (big drop at Rio, obviously), 91 in total, and UK was third with 29 golds, 65 in total - pretty stable performance for UK at last two Olympics

seems that over 42.5 is a winner for USA, but you should count that Phelps is not there and that is five golds in total, it is probably why the odds are for 42.5, not 45.5

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