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Quote from: pawanjain on December 14, 2024, 09:07:46 AM

Quote from: BitMaxz on December 05, 2024, 06:11:04 PM

Pogo is involved in many illegal activities; this is the reason why they are forced to be closed, and most of the scammers are also in POGO based on the news that I watched before.

According to some reports, Chinese nationals who work on PoGo have been deported, which also left some problems like having a Filipino child.
Pogo has lots of issues, not only illegal activities.

I don't know why they do some illegal activities if their casino earns a lot? Human rights, illegal drug trades, there are many reasons why they are forced to be closed.

No wonder it got closed if they are doing so many illicit activities. May be what they earn from the casino is not enough for them.
Or may be the casino is just a front picture for them to represent themeselves and from the back they are carrying out their illegal activities.
This syncs with the reason they are hiring Chinese people instead of their own citizens so that they can blackmail them if anyone decides to go against them.

Perhaps what you are saying is right. The casino is just a front picture of their business and it looks like they run a real business. But they have illegal businesses in the back so they make a lot of money from both businesses. Or perhaps the money they give the government is not much so the government decides to close their casino business. But whatever it is, we don't know what their real reason for closing the casino.

Besides that, taking an employee from outside of their country is not too expensive rather than hiring their citizens. So they run businesses for human trafficking that can also be used to becomes their employee.

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Quote from: BitMaxz on December 05, 2024, 06:11:04 PM

Pogo is involved in many illegal activities; this is the reason why they are forced to be closed, and most of the scammers are also in POGO based on the news that I watched before.

According to some reports, Chinese nationals who work on PoGo have been deported, which also left some problems like having a Filipino child.
Pogo has lots of issues, not only illegal activities.

I don't know why they do some illegal activities if their casino earns a lot? Human rights, illegal drug trades, there are many reasons why they are forced to be closed.

No wonder it got closed if they are doing so many illicit activities. May be what they earn from the casino is not enough for them.
Or may be the casino is just a front picture for them to represent themeselves and from the back they are carrying out their illegal activities.
This syncs with the reason they are hiring Chinese people instead of their own citizens so that they can blackmail them if anyone decides to go against them.

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Quote from: Wapfika on December 13, 2024, 11:27:29 AM

Quote from: Nrcewker on December 13, 2024, 11:17:51 AM

Okay, so the gambling hub wasn’t closed due to the gambling activities; rather, it got into attention due to other illegal activities. I don’t know the exact scenario, but after going through it once in the above newspaper link, I found that many illegal activities were happening in the mentioned gambling hub; for this, the authorities were forced to shut down this gambling hub. Nevertheless, I think hardly any person visits real casinos and gambles with cash.

Philippine government just generalizing POGO as bad since there’s really some POGO that do illegal activities but the majority is just operating normally.

The regulations of POGO is the real problem because there’s a lot of under the table deal in exchange for rouge POGO to do their shady business. Also it’s election season next year that’s why Senate and Congress are so gullible on doing something in exchange for public approval for elections.

In general, POGO contributes a lot of taxes if they will be regulated properly.

But the good POGO or at least those who operates under the government regulation has also been affected if I'm not mistaken. So they also closed because as per order by the Philippine President all POGO will be closed in their country.

So unfortunately, if those operating legally has been closed or go on voluntary ceasing their operations in the country. Just very sad for those operators and everyone that works, because it's going to be holiday and we all know how Philippines is as far as Christmas goes. I mean they celebrated it early, so what will happen to those employees who lost their job nearing Christmas? How can they bring food in the table? Anyhow, it's the President's order so they will have to follow that mandate and close everything, regardless if it is legal bound or illegal with torturing chambers and what not.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on December 13, 2024, 11:17:51 AM

Okay, so the gambling hub wasn’t closed due to the gambling activities; rather, it got into attention due to other illegal activities. I don’t know the exact scenario, but after going through it once in the above newspaper link, I found that many illegal activities were happening in the mentioned gambling hub; for this, the authorities were forced to shut down this gambling hub. Nevertheless, I think hardly any person visits real casinos and gambles with cash.

Philippine government just generalizing POGO as bad since there’s really some POGO that do illegal activities but the majority is just operating normally.

The regulations of POGO is the real problem because there’s a lot of under the table deal in exchange for rouge POGO to do their shady business. Also it’s election season next year that’s why Senate and Congress are so gullible on doing something in exchange for public approval for elections.

In general, POGO contributes a lot of taxes if they will be regulated properly.

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Okay, so the gambling hub wasn’t closed due to the gambling activities; rather, it got into attention due to other illegal activities. I don’t know the exact scenario, but after going through it once in the above newspaper link, I found that many illegal activities were happening in the mentioned gambling hub; for this, the authorities were forced to shut down this gambling hub. Nevertheless, I think hardly any person visits real casinos and gambles with cash.

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Some of you might want to hear some updates, Paocc vows to step up clampdown on ‘rogue’ Pogos starting January 2025.

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MANILA, Philippines — The Presidential Anti-Organized Crime Commission (Paocc) will begin its extensive operation against “rogue” Philippine offshore gaming operators (Pogos) on the very first day of 2025.

Paocc chief Undersecretary Gilbert Cruz issued this promise on Friday, stressing that their action is in support of the administration’s goal of completely eradicating Pogos nationwide.

So as per the Police Chief, they will go after those illegal POGO's in the country starting next year. And I saw reports already that most of the POGO's have shown intention already to close their business by voluntarily surrendering their permits to the government as they don't want their names to be dragged on this war and I say that it was good move on their part.

It's now the battle against those illegal POGO's is there are still that operates in the country and they thought that they can continue underdog by having protection from the police or even government officials.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 13, 2024, 07:44:49 AM

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Quote from: Maslate on December 12, 2024, 01:47:02 AM

Quote from: romero121 on December 10, 2024, 05:22:57 PM

One thing we need to understand is the difference in economic growth between that particular location and the rest of the country. There will be a big difference, and the gambling location will be having the better infrastructure as well as growth.

That was the plan before they allowed POGOs to operate in the country, but it came with guidelines that the POGOs were required to follow. Because they violated these guidelines and the impact was significant, the government decided to shut down their operations.

Honestly, the problem might not have escalated so much if the regulators had effectively done their job in monitoring POGO activities. Unfortunately, they failed in that aspect, leading to the situation to worsen and that resulted to mandatory ending their operation.

That's the problem with our country, we have a good law to begin with, but implementation is what we are missing. And then when this POGO was discovered, it's gonna be too late and now everyone is pointing it's fighter as who should be blame for what happen, police? regulators? or the government itself.

But as promised by Bong-bong Marcos in his speech, he will closed those illegal POGO hubs and that is the good part. However, there could be more out there that they need to go. We don't want to see our government and not just "ningas-kugon".

Closing those illegally operating or those who's been used as shelters for illegal activities, as those reports exposed what's happening behind this business, I also agree that after the president declare his campaign against this business the government should continue to chase those gambling house that still exist,

Not being "Ningas kugon" but really seeking to close down those Pogos around, not just those who are link to past administrator, but every existing gambling hubs that continually operating.

You know dude, the government hasn't closed down all the pogos in that country, many still exist to still operate. The powerful and protectors of big government officials
there are still promoting pogo.

The promotion of gambling there on social media platforms is still rampant and influencers and celebrities are popular as their endorsers, in fact. It even seems like the administration is condoning it that it's okay for minors to see it on social media platforms like Facebook.

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Quote from: TravelMug on December 12, 2024, 04:07:09 AM

Quote from: Maslate on December 12, 2024, 01:47:02 AM

Quote from: romero121 on December 10, 2024, 05:22:57 PM

One thing we need to understand is the difference in economic growth between that particular location and the rest of the country. There will be a big difference, and the gambling location will be having the better infrastructure as well as growth.

That was the plan before they allowed POGOs to operate in the country, but it came with guidelines that the POGOs were required to follow. Because they violated these guidelines and the impact was significant, the government decided to shut down their operations.

Honestly, the problem might not have escalated so much if the regulators had effectively done their job in monitoring POGO activities. Unfortunately, they failed in that aspect, leading to the situation to worsen and that resulted to mandatory ending their operation.

That's the problem with our country, we have a good law to begin with, but implementation is what we are missing. And then when this POGO was discovered, it's gonna be too late and now everyone is pointing it's fighter as who should be blame for what happen, police? regulators? or the government itself.

But as promised by Bong-bong Marcos in his speech, he will closed those illegal POGO hubs and that is the good part. However, there could be more out there that they need to go. We don't want to see our government and not just "ningas-kugon".

Closing those illegally operating or those who's been used as shelters for illegal activities, as those reports exposed what's happening behind this business, I also agree that after the president declare his campaign against this business the government should continue to chase those gambling house that still exist,

Not being "Ningas kugon" but really seeking to close down those Pogos around, not just those who are link to past administrator, but every existing gambling hubs that continually operating.

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Quote from: iBaba on December 12, 2024, 02:17:20 PM

It is also possible that since the closure of the operation, the government haven't been very stringent with its implementation which could also give access to many people being scammed still yet. If the implementation step is weak, it will amount to a worse form of scamming activities especially since the government have already declared it illegal. There will be no penalty for the perpetrators of such acts. I wish people will become more careful in their dealings with those things.

How would we know they’re very strict with their implementation? What we’re discussing is just speculation. We believe they’re still operating because there aren’t any reports proving otherwise, right? But anyway, that’s how it is. The Philippine government is quite corrupt, and we don’t really need numbers to see that. As citizens, we know this based on what we read and hear in the news. It’s hard for them to deny these days since media isn’t limited to mainstream sources. We have plenty of vloggers who discuss interesting speculations that end up convincing ordinary people to believe in them.

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Quote from: Maslate on December 10, 2024, 11:02:09 AM

It’s possible, but not on a large-scale operation anymore. They were able to scam a lot of money before because they had a large number of employees, and it was easy for them to recruit since they had a license to operate. Now, if they still insist on operating illegally, their impact likely won’t be as significant, and it wouldn’t result in scams worth millions of dollars.

It is also possible that since the closure of the operation, the government haven't been very stringent with its implementation which could also give access to many people being scammed still yet. If the implementation step is weak, it will amount to a worse form of scamming activities especially since the government have already declared it illegal. There will be no penalty for the perpetrators of such acts. I wish people will become more careful in their dealings with those things.

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Quote from: Maslate on December 10, 2024, 11:02:09 AM

Quote from: YOSHIE on December 10, 2024, 07:26:06 AM

There is a big possibility that they are still operating in the Philippines. I think no matter how great the casinos operating in any country are, if they commit criminal acts and violate the law in that country, of course closing the gambling place is the best solution to take.

It’s possible, but not on a large-scale operation anymore. They were able to scam a lot of money before because they had a large number of employees, and it was easy for them to recruit since they had a license to operate. Now, if they still insist on operating illegally, their impact likely won’t be as significant, and it wouldn’t result in scams worth millions of dollars.

If you know the gambling industry very well, how they operate and people's complaints about them, you will hardly see a saint among them and they still continue to operate, but if the government cares, they will force them to do the needful. For this, I was surprised you said they were able to scam people because they have a large number of employees, I don't see that correlation. They do that because they are either not regulated or underregulated, period! And this can't be done alone, the government must be complicit in this as well, at least the former authorities to have aided them in such acts for years.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on December 10, 2024, 07:26:06 AM

Quote from: Maslate on December 05, 2024, 11:55:36 AM

One of the biggest gambling hub in PH is now closed.

If they the casino doesn't do this.

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The ban was issued after several criminal activities, such as illegal drugs, human trafficking, kidnapping and cyber scams, were reportedly discovered connected to rogue POGO hubs. — Mayen Jaymalin

There is a big possibility that they are still operating in the Philippines. I think no matter how great the casinos operating in any country are, if they commit criminal acts and violate the law in that country, of course closing the gambling place is the best solution to take.

If you look at the news above, the behavior of the gambling parties is beyond the limits of humanity, I think it is very natural for the gambling to be closed, if necessary, the person responsible for the gambling will be punished if they are proven to have done what is in the news.

That's how it is, there are still many casinos that are still operating today, and how do we know if the pogo's that still exist are held by those in positions in the Philippine government and so that they can monopolize the pogo market.

And in my opinion, that will never go away, because it's a syndicate from what I see, which is my opinion on that matter as well. And those who are strong will of course remain.

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Quote from: Maslate on December 12, 2024, 01:47:02 AM

Quote from: romero121 on December 10, 2024, 05:22:57 PM

One thing we need to understand is the difference in economic growth between that particular location and the rest of the country. There will be a big difference, and the gambling location will be having the better infrastructure as well as growth.

That was the plan before they allowed POGOs to operate in the country, but it came with guidelines that the POGOs were required to follow. Because they violated these guidelines and the impact was significant, the government decided to shut down their operations.

Honestly, the problem might not have escalated so much if the regulators had effectively done their job in monitoring POGO activities. Unfortunately, they failed in that aspect, leading to the situation to worsen and that resulted to mandatory ending their operation.

That's the problem with our country, we have a good law to begin with, but implementation is what we are missing. And then when this POGO was discovered, it's gonna be too late and now everyone is pointing it's fighter as who should be blame for what happen, police? regulators? or the government itself.

But as promised by Bong-bong Marcos in his speech, he will closed those illegal POGO hubs and that is the good part. However, there could be more out there that they need to go. We don't want to see our government and not just "ningas-kugon".

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Quote from: romero121 on December 10, 2024, 05:22:57 PM

One thing we need to understand is the difference in economic growth between that particular location and the rest of the country. There will be a big difference, and the gambling location will be having the better infrastructure as well as growth.

That was the plan before they allowed POGOs to operate in the country, but it came with guidelines that the POGOs were required to follow. Because they violated these guidelines and the impact was significant, the government decided to shut down their operations.

Honestly, the problem might not have escalated so much if the regulators had effectively done their job in monitoring POGO activities. Unfortunately, they failed in that aspect, leading to the situation to worsen and that resulted to mandatory ending their operation.

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Quote from: romero121 on December 10, 2024, 05:22:57 PM

Quote from: blockman on December 10, 2024, 03:37:01 PM

Many asian country does but it just so happen that our country, Philippines, became the top in the asia region. We have surpassed even the Las Vegas of Asia which is Macau. That's why to eradicate these operations is going to help our socio-economic status because many of our fellow countrymen are losing their minds through gambling and doing stuff that they are not used to until they become addicted to gambling.

One thing we need to understand is the difference in economic growth between that particular location and the rest of the country. There will be a big difference, and the gambling location will be having the better infrastructure as well as growth. On going deep, we can understand that specific people have grown, and the rest are getting into poverty and getting low day by day. That's a huge economic zone, and the government has waited long to handle the situation in a better way. Now there is no more choice available, and that's where they've decided for the closing of the gambling hub.

There are other factors that we can think of, if you know more about the politics that are happening in our country, you can take a lot of hypothetical guesses why they do this. But for the sake of betterment, let's just take the positive factors and probable reasons why they have to do that. I'm talking in a sense in good energy and happy about these taking downs because there is much a deep reason why these hubs have appeared in the first place and not to operate as an actual gambling hubs.

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Quote from: blockman on December 10, 2024, 03:37:01 PM

Quote from: D ltr on December 10, 2024, 07:06:50 AM

I think it's not only the Philippines that is trying to eradicate the online gambling business, not because of politics but because of the disturbed social conditions, the acute tendency to gamble makes the government close and prohibit gambling, high crime, poverty all 75% due to gambling,

Many asian country does but it just so happen that our country, Philippines, became the top in the asia region. We have surpassed even the Las Vegas of Asia which is Macau. That's why to eradicate these operations is going to help our socio-economic status because many of our fellow countrymen are losing their minds through gambling and doing stuff that they are not used to until they become addicted to gambling.

One thing we need to understand is the difference in economic growth between that particular location and the rest of the country. There will be a big difference, and the gambling location will be having the better infrastructure as well as growth. On going deep, we can understand that specific people have grown, and the rest are getting into poverty and getting low day by day. That's a huge economic zone, and the government has waited long to handle the situation in a better way. Now there is no more choice available, and that's where they've decided for the closing of the gambling hub.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on December 10, 2024, 07:26:06 AM

Quote from: Maslate on December 05, 2024, 11:55:36 AM

One of the biggest gambling hub in PH is now closed.

If they the casino doesn't do this.

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The ban was issued after several criminal activities, such as illegal drugs, human trafficking, kidnapping and cyber scams, were reportedly discovered connected to rogue POGO hubs. — Mayen Jaymalin

There is a big possibility that they are still operating in the Philippines. I think no matter how great the casinos operating in any country are, if they commit criminal acts and violate the law in that country, of course closing the gambling place is the best solution to take.

If you look at the news above, the behavior of the gambling parties is beyond the limits of humanity, I think it is very natural for the gambling to be closed, if necessary, the person responsible for the gambling will be punished if they are proven to have done what is in the news.

The PH authorities are still on pursue for the responsible people who are involved with the illegal activities of this casino. Closing it down was the huge first step they took. These people are huge syndicate and they are not easy to track down because they have a lot of political protectors. And yes, they are still operating in the PH because they are business men in nature. With years of operations, they sure have enough resources to pay their protectors.

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Quote from: D ltr on December 10, 2024, 07:06:50 AM

I think it's not only the Philippines that is trying to eradicate the online gambling business, not because of politics but because of the disturbed social conditions, the acute tendency to gamble makes the government close and prohibit gambling, high crime, poverty all 75% due to gambling,

Many asian country does but it just so happen that our country, Philippines, became the top in the asia region. We have surpassed even the Las Vegas of Asia which is Macau. That's why to eradicate these operations is going to help our socio-economic status because many of our fellow countrymen are losing their minds through gambling and doing stuff that they are not used to until they become addicted to gambling.

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Quote from: BitMaxz on December 05, 2024, 06:11:04 PM

Pogo is involved in many illegal activities; this is the reason why they are forced to be closed, and most of the scammers are also in POGO based on the news that I watched before.

According to some reports, Chinese nationals who work on PoGo have been deported, which also left some problems like having a Filipino child.
Pogo has lots of issues, not only illegal activities.

I don't know why they do some illegal activities if their casino earns a lot? Human rights, illegal drug trades, there are many reasons why they are forced to be closed.

Gambling is supposed to be for relaxation and having fun. Casino houses are meant to provide entertainment, not be a cover for illegal activities like drugs. When you turn a casino into a place for criminal activities, it has a bad impact on young people.

These casino houses will start looking for young people to recruit. They'll offer them money to gamble or do other bad things. Since young people can't make good decisions on their own, they'll fall for it. That's how they get into drugs and other bad stuff early.

I think shutting down these illegal businesses is a good start. At least young people won't just walk into a casino thinking they're going to gamble, only to be manipulated into doing bad things.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on December 10, 2024, 07:26:06 AM

There is a big possibility that they are still operating in the Philippines. I think no matter how great the casinos operating in any country are, if they commit criminal acts and violate the law in that country, of course closing the gambling place is the best solution to take.

It’s possible, but not on a large-scale operation anymore. They were able to scam a lot of money before because they had a large number of employees, and it was easy for them to recruit since they had a license to operate. Now, if they still insist on operating illegally, their impact likely won’t be as significant, and it wouldn’t result in scams worth millions of dollars.

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