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legendary
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One of the biggest gambling hub in PH is now closed.
If they the casino doesn't do this.
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The ban was issued after several criminal activities, such as illegal drugs, human trafficking, kidnapping and cyber scams, were reportedly discovered connected to rogue POGO hubs. — Mayen Jaymalin

There is a big possibility that they are still operating in the Philippines. I think no matter how great the casinos operating in any country are, if they commit criminal acts and violate the law in that country, of course closing the gambling place is the best solution to take.

If you look at the news above, the behavior of the gambling parties is beyond the limits of humanity, I think it is very natural for the gambling to be closed, if necessary, the person responsible for the gambling will be punished if they are proven to have done what is in the news.
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Don't worry about the link, Philstar is one of the newspaper's name here in our country and since not many people are buying newspaper anymore, they turned online.

About the POGO, they are online gambling dens so it's not like you are trying to find a casino in that feature but more like what inside of that building that was share by OP. They are all inside those building and that's where they will do their business. POGO's first arrival here in the Philippines was already scolded by the last president Roa Duterte.
Now, it's time to clean it up so that this administration can feel better for themselves. This is politics, expect something like this will happen especially with money involved.

I think it's not only the Philippines that is trying to eradicate the online gambling business, not because of politics but because of the disturbed social conditions, the acute tendency to gamble makes the government close and prohibit gambling, high crime, poverty all 75% due to gambling,
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Hopefully next time, they'll be able to drag down the mastermind of these but it's sad that it's very unlikely that they'll be able to.
Until now, no mastermind has been convicted, it’s mostly just the fall guys who get investigated and jailed. This clearly shows that there’s corruption on the police side because, despite having the evidence and the ability to investigate thoroughly, they still fail to identify the real masterminds, who are often right here in our country.

In the end, it seems like they’re just washing their hands of the issue. Since they’ve likely benefited from it, they avoid implicating themselves. To make it look like they’re enforcing the law and to have something to report, they go after the fall guy instead.

Hahaha, funny to say but it is what is happening, they just following the lead to get the fall guy and nothing to follow up they just need to have that report and close the case if possible they will just try to make an statement that they are still following the leads but in reality they just seeking those front side but not digging deeper to catch the mastermind and those big bosses behind the business.

Crazy thing, instead of quitely working with the possile leads they broadcast everything and relate things into politics, much better to do thins for the benefits of the people and not just the benefits of the current leadership.
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It is worrying that government is only pays attention to illegal activities when they become famous on social media and become popular. This always shows that government does not care about stopping these illegal activities. This is really bad and it is likely that some government officials and leaders are involved in and these kind of activities or benefit from these illegal businesses which is why they do not take strong action. And when these cases become famous it is mostly some small people who get blamed and punished while powerful people who are really in charge they do not blame. These kind of things and unfair enforcement of law can lose trust in government.
That is our question to our government because so far they are too late to react with a case and will gives fast reaction when public make it viral. But many times they are not ready to solve the case and make a mistake by arrest a wrong guy or some people because what they do will be in public eyes and public wil critize the government if they can not better.

Public will search for more information and they can easily get it with fast, accurate, without takes too long than the government and share into public. While the government looks too slowly in terms of investigating and solve the case. That is why public not fully trust their government to solve many big chase although public shares many evidence to the government.

Yeah because when the case hasn't gone viral, they can do anything they like, hence there were many unfair decision made by the officials. Although right now there are still few unfair decision. Unfortunately there's no international idealist organization that has a job to audit each country, if it was exist, the chance of this thing to happen would be very very low.

As for your last sentence, this is what it looks like.


The government decision will be look too fast without trying to investigate all things that public show to them. Public will search for more investigate and know if the government sacrifice small people without taking the big people who is behind on that case. Yes, your picture happen in many countries but public can not do many things except still trying to ask for justice from the government. If the pushing from public comes for more and more people support the case, the government will easily to say that is a mistake and they are working on that seriously but that is just in a lip.
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This big gambling hub ( Island Cove POGO hub ) has officially signed off.


For now they are, but once they lack the money to sustain the economy and POGO cools down, these gambling hubs will be back again; gambling is legal in the Philippines, and if there's a new administration that needs more funds to the government coffer, they will let these gambling hubs reopen. These gambling hubs have been operating for many years, and they have built jobs and businesses around the hub, The next administration will re consider once they see huge money and jobs generated. You cannot just kill the duck that lays the golden egg.
Maybe this time the issues surrounding the gambling hub might've turned out to be big. This seems to be the reason why the closing is made serious, provided with the deadline. If things weren't going as planned, the government had ordered for deportation. At the same time, gambling hubs serve to be a major means of economy, and a big business runs around it. Surely there'll be reconsideration, and these are temporary decisions to withstand the present political vibe of the nation. Gambling being legal in the country, surely this will make a comeback.
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This big gambling hub ( Island Cove POGO hub ) has officially signed off.

https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2024/12/03/2404599/20000-pogo-workers-expected-leave-philippine-deadline
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MANILA, Philippines — With barely a month to go before the deadline on Dec. 31, some 20,000 foreign Philippine offshore gaming operation (POGO) workers are expected to leave the country, according to the Bureau of Immigration (BI).

you can see more pictures of the close gambling hub.

This reminds me of using a sledgehammer to crack a peanut shell - they blame lots of other illegal activity on these gaming operations and instead of actually policing those things they take down these so-called "POGOs" instead. It actually seems like a pretty lucrative industry really, if they stepped in and enforced the existing laws rather than completely shutting everything down. This is a rather poor country and such services can provide very legitimate support functions to the industry, so they're losing a rather helpful source of revenue - it is rather short sighted, but maybe a politician decided to get some good publicity for themselves by targeting a sector that struggles to defend themselves in the media.

It's a billion dollar business, so yeah, it's very lucrative that's why the legal ones have been running in the Philippines for years or at least from what I understand since the pandemic as it could be a big source of tax from the government.

However, it turns out that there are more illegal POGO hubs that is well equipped and hidden from the eyes of the public as they have been put in province and places are well secured. And with that, there are many politicians that might have protected it and earn a lot of money. But the good thing is that the Philippine government is going to shut it down for good.
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This big gambling hub ( Island Cove POGO hub ) has officially signed off.

https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2024/12/03/2404599/20000-pogo-workers-expected-leave-philippine-deadline
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MANILA, Philippines — With barely a month to go before the deadline on Dec. 31, some 20,000 foreign Philippine offshore gaming operation (POGO) workers are expected to leave the country, according to the Bureau of Immigration (BI).

you can see more pictures of the close gambling hub.

This reminds me of using a sledgehammer to crack a peanut shell - they blame lots of other illegal activity on these gaming operations and instead of actually policing those things they take down these so-called "POGOs" instead. It actually seems like a pretty lucrative industry really, if they stepped in and enforced the existing laws rather than completely shutting everything down. This is a rather poor country and such services can provide very legitimate support functions to the industry, so they're losing a rather helpful source of revenue - it is rather short sighted, but maybe a politician decided to get some good publicity for themselves by targeting a sector that struggles to defend themselves in the media.
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This big gambling hub ( Island Cove POGO hub ) has officially signed off.


For now they are, but once they lack the money to sustain the economy and POGO cools down, these gambling hubs will be back again; gambling is legal in the Philippines, and if there's a new administration that needs more funds to the government coffer, they will let these gambling hubs reopen. These gambling hubs have been operating for many years, and they have built jobs and businesses around the hub, The next administration will re consider once they see huge money and jobs generated. You cannot just kill the duck that lays the golden egg.
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Hopefully next time, they'll be able to drag down the mastermind of these but it's sad that it's very unlikely that they'll be able to.
Until now, no mastermind has been convicted, it’s mostly just the fall guys who get investigated and jailed. This clearly shows that there’s corruption on the police side because, despite having the evidence and the ability to investigate thoroughly, they still fail to identify the real masterminds, who are often right here in our country.

In the end, it seems like they’re just washing their hands of the issue. Since they’ve likely benefited from it, they avoid implicating themselves. To make it look like they’re enforcing the law and to have something to report, they go after the fall guy instead.
Yeah, they're giving the sacrificial lambs but no person behind these operations have been arrested. This becomes a drama antology and sarsuela in our terms because no one high is arrested. It's always those small fish that they're showing to the public as their front runner. And that's why I hope that the bigger fish are going to be caught on this but who knows if they have already fled outside the country and trying to pass and do some cool down for this incident to be forgotten.
legendary
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It's not easy to return to the origin country especially the government of their origin country don't care with their citizen, not to mention it's hard to resolve international case.

I heard that if they want to back to their country, they need to bring someone who want to work with them, which make them force to scam other people by saying the job is easy and promising.

It's sad though, they want to back, but they need to scam other people in order to back.

This specific gaming business is giving good money to the country and because of some people who were mismanaging this kind of business owed to other illegal activities, this business is now branded as illegal and full of scammers. This is actually a very sad day not only to the foreigners who are working there but Filipinos themselves who are directly benefiting from this business. For sure, there are local workers who are employed in this business. Just the customer reps or utility workers alone will be hit hard by such mandate. If only the owners are only doing the POGO business alone without illegal activities such as prostitution or online scamming, this business will still continue its operations. Because of the controversy arising from the case of Alice Guo - Philippine ex-mayor Alice Guo: what is known about her arrest > the malpractice on this business has surfaced.
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I once read in this forum on this Pogo casino, they have problems related to regulations if I do not forget to make it the government put pressure on them, because they are very difficult to operate and also because the problems they carry are quite large, as reported in the news of this ban is issued After several criminal activities, such as illegal drugs, human trafficking, kidnapping, and virtual fraud, reportedly found related to the naughty Pogo center, and this is indeed outrageous, it has crossed the limits of violations, so this Kasio is natural to be stopped by the government.

But I am very sorry for those who work there, especially outsiders who will soon be expelled from the country.
It's not easy to return to the origin country especially the government of their origin country don't care with their citizen, not to mention it's hard to resolve international case.

I heard that if they want to back to their country, they need to bring someone who want to work with them, which make them force to scam other people by saying the job is easy and promising.

It's sad though, they want to back, but they need to scam other people in order to back.
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This big gambling hub ( Island Cove POGO hub ) has officially signed off.



https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2024/12/03/2404599/20000-pogo-workers-expected-leave-philippine-deadline
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MANILA, Philippines — With barely a month to go before the deadline on Dec. 31, some 20,000 foreign Philippine offshore gaming operation (POGO) workers are expected to leave the country, according to the Bureau of Immigration (BI).

you can see more pictures of the close gambling hub.
Just look on their facebook page - https://www.facebook.com/PhilippineSTAR
I once read in this forum on this Pogo casino, they have problems related to regulations if I do not forget to make it the government put pressure on them, because they are very difficult to operate and also because the problems they carry are quite large, as reported in the news of this ban is issued After several criminal activities, such as illegal drugs, human trafficking, kidnapping, and virtual fraud, reportedly found related to the naughty Pogo center, and this is indeed outrageous, it has crossed the limits of violations, so this Kasio is natural to be stopped by the government.

But I am very sorry for those who work there, especially outsiders who will soon be expelled from the country.
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Hopefully next time, they'll be able to drag down the mastermind of these but it's sad that it's very unlikely that they'll be able to.
Until now, no mastermind has been convicted, it’s mostly just the fall guys who get investigated and jailed. This clearly shows that there’s corruption on the police side because, despite having the evidence and the ability to investigate thoroughly, they still fail to identify the real masterminds, who are often right here in our country.

In the end, it seems like they’re just washing their hands of the issue. Since they’ve likely benefited from it, they avoid implicating themselves. To make it look like they’re enforcing the law and to have something to report, they go after the fall guy instead.
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Though we do see efforts from the task force who really working hard to take down this business it's their hard work that being fulfill and giving the people the services that they've deserves.
They need to be recognized and appreciated. They're tackling with big illegal businesses and it's true that this isn't just a POGO or gambling hub. But more with scam operations and being led and run by big syndicate. Hopefully next time, they'll be able to drag down the mastermind of these but it's sad that it's very unlikely that they'll be able to.
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To anyone who has no Idea what this POGO is all about and why it was shut down. Well, simply because they have a lot of issues that are all illegal. It has been a very hot topic here in PH and there has been a continued senate hearing and investigations on this company. Not because they are illegally operating with the typical gambling activities, but because they have hidden agendas like a serious case of human trafficking and drug related syndicate. I'm not really following closely on this issues, but I hope the government will crack it down.

Exactly, not just the gambling itself but the hidden activities inside this business, the government are really seeking for more places where pogos are still being facilatated, though there are some that still exist since there are government offices which still involve to this illegal activites, they are hidding it and they are gaining huge amount to protect this business.

Though we do see efforts from the task force who really working hard to take down this business it's their hard work that being fulfill and giving the people the services that they've deserves.
Everything which is considered illegal is really just that right that it should really be cracked down and this is one of the primary responsibility on which the government should really be doing into its citizens on which it is really just that that there are situation or conditions that these fellas are really that being blinded with money on which instead on stopping them, they are rather the ones who do protect them behind and thats why its not really shocking that there would really still those illegal things that been hiding in the shadows yet they do know that they cant be easily be caught out because something protecting their back and this is why its not really that a new thing anymore because thats how reality works. People do get blinded with big money then you could be able to expect these kind of bypasses.
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To anyone who has no Idea what this POGO is all about and why it was shut down. Well, simply because they have a lot of issues that are all illegal. It has been a very hot topic here in PH and there has been a continued senate hearing and investigations on this company. Not because they are illegally operating with the typical gambling activities, but because they have hidden agendas like a serious case of human trafficking and drug related syndicate. I'm not really following closely on this issues, but I hope the government will crack it down.

Exactly, not just the gambling itself but the hidden activities inside this business, the government are really seeking for more places where pogos are still being facilatated, though there are some that still exist since there are government offices which still involve to this illegal activites, they are hidding it and they are gaining huge amount to protect this business.

Though we do see efforts from the task force who really working hard to take down this business it's their hard work that being fulfill and giving the people the services that they've deserves.
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It is surprising because nowadays there are many cases that are only handled by the government when the case has gone viral. That showing to public that the government and officials including the police are not serious to eradicate illegal activities that happen in their country. But that is because some of those officials and policies are behind on that illegal business so they will not do that easily if the thing is not viral. Even if that case become viral, they will not catch the big person who have power to control the operations but will sacrifice small people who pretend as the big boss that operating the business.
Yeah because when the case hasn't gone viral, they can do anything they like, hence there were many unfair decision made by the officials. Although right now there are still few unfair decision. Unfortunately there's no international idealist organization that has a job to audit each country, if it was exist, the chance of this thing to happen would be very very low.

As for your last sentence, this is what it looks like.

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I've seen this movie in Netflix and I can say its a good one, I think the movie was a true to life story, so that makes it more interesting and probably its connected to the same syndicate but of course with different names since that wasn't shoot in the Philippines, but I can't remember anymore where exactly as that was a year ago when it was release.

BTW, this is an interesting information.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_Cove_%28Cavite%29
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PAGCOR POGO Hub Covelandia[1] is an online gambling complex hosted in Island Cove and Animal Island in Kawit, Cavite, Philippines.

It formerly hosted a resort and leisure park owned by the Remulla political family. It now hosts a hub for Philippine Offshore Gaming Operators (POGOs).

And the current DILG secretary is Jonvic Remulla .. how do we spell that connection?
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To anyone who has no Idea what this POGO is all about and why it was shut down. Well, simply because they have a lot of issues that are all illegal. It has been a very hot topic here in PH and there has been a continued senate hearing and investigations on this company. Not because they are illegally operating with the typical gambling activities, but because they have hidden agendas like a serious case of human trafficking and drug related syndicate. I'm not really following closely on this issues, but I hope the government will crack it down.
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They are not operated in Mainland China rather Chinese businessman and criminal is the one operating here in the PH since China has a strict law for casino especially the penalty when caught while Philippines is one of the country that has a very lousy law when it comes to casino violations that Chinese criminals can take all day long compared when caught in Chinese.
He probably phrased it wrong, he should have written that POGO is targeting customers from mainland China.
Actually, there’s a movie that gives us a glimpse of what’s happening in a POGO setup, in case you’re interested in watching it.
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Also Politicians here are corrupt that makes this illegal operation easy to hide by just paying a bribe to politicians.
Philippines government can do better instead of banning POGO because there’s a lot of legit job created by these casino.
POGO is so huge to hide. in fact, those corrupt politicians and employees who are connected with POGO had probably just given up as this operation is already so exposed.
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