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Topic: One of the biggest gambling hub in PH is now closed. - page 6. (Read 1300 times)

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Closing down the biggest gambling hub wouldn't stop gambling in the country because gamblers will look for ways go continue their gambling activities, because gambling is part of human nature. The revenue that comes in to the government purse will not be there and such revenue can be use to develop the country. It's the government that is bringing more hardship to the country because shutting down this big gambling hub will affect both the government and citizens directly or indirectly.
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From the picture and the number of tens of thousands of workers said, I can see that the gambling hub is very large and provides significant tax revenue to the area, I don't know exactly what is going on there, but from what I read this closure is related to criminal acts that are often related to this gambling hub. But won't this closure spread these people to other areas of the country? Because it's unlikely that these gambling hubs will just submit when their operations are closed, maybe they will look for other places to be their new operations. But whatever the decision of the Philippine government to close this gambling hub must be well-reasoned and well thought out, both the positive and negative impacts of this plan.
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There are a lot of problems introduced by these gambling hubs, and I have watched the progression of these casinos that have been taking advantage of the "loose" governing of the Philippines because they managed to get away with a lot of things. Firstly, there's no license, and then the human trafficking and torture that immigrants do to workers is saddening to hear.

It's good that it's closed, and I hope no more problems arise from it. I hope that the place finds a better purpose.
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If the reason for the closure is because of illegal activities, then it shows how weak law enforcement is there, it should not be closed but with the existing evidence, arrest the people involved in the illegal actions so that people who are not involved can still work and not lose their income as well as the country does not lose a source of income that can be used for development, and because this is related to gambling, many people will associate it with bad things.
Yeah hard slap truth is yes. What more is some Government officials are connected with this one. I cant point out who but there is clearly an evidence of that which a lot of Big names on government are related. Od course it cant be busted that easily since they have their own people inside of huge Government groups who are involved in corruption which led to a possible crime wnd uses their money got to election purposes.
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you can see more pictures of the close gambling hub.
Just look on their facebook page - https://www.facebook.com/PhilippineSTAR
The government shutting down is pretty basic when the business is not following the rules and on the other hand they are trying to commit crimes against humanity even if it is done behind the scenes as it is. But the sad thing is that there will be a lot of people who will be out of work again after the big business is shut down and I would like to hear from people who know the place whether the government has ever asked for an evaluation of their performance or just asked for the closure by not giving them a license to operate.

We don't know for sure what the problems are that the business is facing because we can only read in the news without knowing for sure. So perhaps there is not much to talk about if we do not know concretely the problems faced by the business.
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While there's a hot issue of politics in our country. This is one of the actions that the government is doing that I can commend. They should eliminate all of those POGOs that are operating illegally and there's a root cause in here because they're not really for gambling. It's just a show and front that they are POGOs for gambling but they have become scam hubs. I thought that this Island Cove area is untouchable because it is said that it's been backed up by powerful politicians but if this has happened, I applause their actions.
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It’s definitely better to shut down those POGO hubs because they have been involved in numerous illegal activities. Imagine that the government implemented SIM registration supposedly to prevent scams but these operations still manage to bypass the system and send spam messages. These messages are linked to scams involving casinos and even include phishing links. While gambling is said to generate significant tax revenue, considering the current situation and the extent of corruption it would be much better to shut them down completely and permanently.
If that is right, then the government moves to shut down those POGO hubs is right. They must prevent numerous illegal activities before the situation becomes more badly. I think that is happen in other countries where the government implemented some regulation but operations like that still manage to bypass the system. Yes, we already got spam messages in our phone and even that is sent every day without stop and we don't know how to block that message. Not to mention about the corruption that still happen in many countries. Maybe it is a sign for their people that their government takes serious with the illegal activities and want to clean up the mess.
Can it be that easy?
I don't think so because in every ban it will be able to provide an alternative way for business people to continue running their business even though it is an underground casinos, the government will never really be able to solve everything evenly because money can also make government regulations become certain exceptions to some business places.
For example, the black market owned by several countries out there, they are criticized and suppressed by government laws and regulations but until now they can still operate with various illegal transactions, this will be the same as gambling places and in the end they don't really close.
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https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2024/12/03/2404599/20000-pogo-workers-expected-leave-philippine-deadline
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MANILA, Philippines — With barely a month to go before the deadline on Dec. 31, some 20,000 foreign Philippine offshore gaming operation (POGO) workers are expected to leave the country, according to the Bureau of Immigration (BI).

you can see more pictures of the close gambling hub.
Just look on their facebook page - https://www.facebook.com/PhilippineSTAR
Having this kind of operation in another country while their own citizens work for it, doesn't sound good to the host country unless they're permitted to work there.

But with competition and probably permits and other papers stuff that they need to comply. It's also likely that the employees that are from another country that worked there are undocumented so they have to close it down.

Well, this is also the action of the government towards it but now they have to deal with the emerging online casinos that don't require these operators huge buildings to operate.
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It’s definitely better to shut down those POGO hubs because they have been involved in numerous illegal activities. Imagine that the government implemented SIM registration supposedly to prevent scams but these operations still manage to bypass the system and send spam messages. These messages are linked to scams involving casinos and even include phishing links. While gambling is said to generate significant tax revenue, considering the current situation and the extent of corruption it would be much better to shut them down completely and permanently.
If that is right, then the government moves to shut down those POGO hubs is right. They must prevent numerous illegal activities before the situation becomes more badly. I think that is happen in other countries where the government implemented some regulation but operations like that still manage to bypass the system. Yes, we already got spam messages in our phone and even that is sent every day without stop and we don't know how to block that message. Not to mention about the corruption that still happen in many countries. Maybe it is a sign for their people that their government takes serious with the illegal activities and want to clean up the mess.
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You can have different attitudes towards gaming establishments, but it is true that for some poor countries this is an important source of taxes that cannot be ignored. If the problem is only in gambling addiction, then, apparently, one of the reasons for this is insufficiently good regulation of gaming establishments. If all gambling centers adhere to the policy of responsible gaming and timely suppression of gambling addiction, then many negative consequences can be avoided. Here it is necessary to turn to the experience of other territories such as Macau or Las Vegas to get acquainted with the correct regulatory policy.
Let’s stay on point here, this isn’t about gambling addiction in general,(just to clear things up)... but rather the government’s initiative to ban POGOs (Philippine Offshore Gaming Operators) and similar hubs because of their involvement in illegal activities. Yes, POGOs created jobs, but the majority of their employees are from China. There have also been numerous complaints about workers being forced to work without proper rest. Prior to this ban, there were already many raids uncovering evidence of illegal activities, which is why the government decided to shut them down.

Again, just to clarify, this isn’t limited to one location, all POGO hubs have been banned from operating in the Philippines.

Philippines enacts total ban on offshore gaming operations, to phase out the POGO industry by end 2024
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If they were really guilty of the last paragraph of the article then it’s a nice move by the government to close down the business - no matter what they represent on the outside as long as they are really doing things like human trafficking and illegal drugs behind the scenes then it’s always god for government agencies to go after such companies.

But if that last part was just included just so the government would have a more appealing comments on what to talk about or their reasons for closing it down then that would be considered a shitting tactic but if they are really involved in trafficking humans the kudos to the government.
No, this was such a huge issue in the country that stems away from gambling honestly. To give a background, gambling is legal in the Philippines but not online gambling until a few years ago. Then president allowed for POGO to operate in the country believing that this will be an economic opportunity. Fast forward to today, the government started investigating POGO hubs when criminal activities such as scams and prostitution were reported. This then led to one of the craziest conspiracies in history.

Upon searching the compound where POGO operated, the authorities found documents pointing to the mayor of the city where the compound was located named Alice Guo. What supposedly was only just an investigation on criminal activities hidden under the guise of gambling operations led to investigation of the mayor's identity. It was a question whether the mayor was indeed a Filipino born citizen or a fugitive running away from China and sought out hideout in the Philippines. It has been said that the Filipinos who registered POGOs weren't actually real Filipinos and were only stolen identities.

Sorry for the sudden politics lecture but this is far from the government closing down gambling operations for the sake of just closing them. There were even questions of whether the mayor was a spy from China and other crazy theories. It is unfortunate that the online gambling industry is being scrutinized under this light but this issue is much bigger than that.
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You can have different attitudes towards gaming establishments, but it is true that for some poor countries this is an important source of taxes that cannot be ignored. If the problem is only in gambling addiction, then, apparently, one of the reasons for this is insufficiently good regulation of gaming establishments. If all gambling centers adhere to the policy of responsible gaming and timely suppression of gambling addiction, then many negative consequences can be avoided. Here it is necessary to turn to the experience of other territories such as Macau or Las Vegas to get acquainted with the correct regulatory policy.
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Pogo is involved in many illegal activities; this is the reason why they are forced to be closed, and most of the scammers are also in POGO based on the news that I watched before.

According to some reports, Chinese nationals who work on PoGo have been deported, which also left some problems like having a Filipino child.
Pogo has lots of issues, not only illegal activities.

I don't know why they do some illegal activities if their casino earns a lot? Human rights, illegal drug trades, there are many reasons why they are forced to be closed.

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The ban was issued after several criminal activities, such as illegal drugs, human trafficking, kidnapping and cyber scams, were reportedly discovered connected to rogue POGO hubs

It was discovered that the hub was into all sort of criminal activities which is against the law and some workers visa  needed a renewal .
That's exactly what really happened you can see the statement made in that link of op. I knew something was fishy because that hub can not just be closed down for nothing.  Federal government have the legal right to close down such place in criminal activities is practice.



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This isn't just a gambling hub. This is a place where all kinds of things happen. Scams are operated here including crypto scams. These scam centers operate under the guise of offshore gaming companies. The truth is that they are making money via scams, all kinds of scams.

POGOs are the main reason why text scams, love scams, crypto scams, phishing, and so on proliferate in the country. They're a menace to the society. They should have been shut down long ago. They don't pay taxes anyway. They also mainly hire foreign workers trafficked from their home countries.

POGOs are mainly Chinese companies. Some of them are even operating as espionage centers.
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It’s definitely better to shut down those POGO hubs because they have been involved in numerous illegal activities. Imagine that the government implemented SIM registration supposedly to prevent scams but these operations still manage to bypass the system and send spam messages. These messages are linked to scams involving casinos and even include phishing links. While gambling is said to generate significant tax revenue, considering the current situation and the extent of corruption it would be much better to shut them down completely and permanently.
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If they were really guilty of the last paragraph of the article then it’s a nice move by the government to close down the business - no matter what they represent on the outside as long as they are really doing things like human trafficking and illegal drugs behind the scenes then it’s always god for government agencies to go after such companies.

But if that last part was just included just so the government would have a more appealing comments on what to talk about or their reasons for closing it down then that would be considered a shitting tactic but if they are really involved in trafficking humans the kudos to the government.
The scenario of feeling guilty in the last paragraph and the scenario of closing the business Pogo has not happened for the same reason. The reason for closing the Business by the government was that they did not follow the terms of the government.
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If the reason for the closure is because of illegal activities, then it shows how weak law enforcement is there, it should not be closed but with the existing evidence, arrest the people involved in the illegal actions so that people who are not involved can still work and not lose their income as well as the country does not lose a source of income that can be used for development, and because this is related to gambling, many people will associate it with bad things.
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If they were really guilty of the last paragraph of the article then it’s a nice move by the government to close down the business - no matter what they represent on the outside as long as they are really doing things like human trafficking and illegal drugs behind the scenes then it’s always god for government agencies to go after such companies.
It's important to highligh that part of the article, so people can understand how shady the environment was:

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The ban was issued after several criminal activities, such as illegal drugs, human trafficking, kidnapping and cyber scams, were reportedly discovered connected to rogue POGO hubs

It's definitely not solely a gambling spot, but a place for criminals to execute their schemes and prejudice people in different ways. If it's really true there were such practices happening there, the hub had to be closed, indeed. One thing is to gamble with your money voluntarily, aware about the risks and potential outcomes. Another thing is to attend to shady hubs, where people are being abused and stolen in different manners. The later has to be totally discouraged and stopped by authorities and civil society.
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Isn't it this is the promise of the current President of the Philippines Ferdinand Marcos Jr to close all POGO hubs in the Philippines by December of this year? So it's no surprised that the government will have to implement it by now because it will not look good for Marcos.

It's just the question on what the government will do with that property? Because from the looks of it, it's huge and so they will have to think of ways to maximized that space. Or maybe sell it to other business entity and make use of it like a mall or something.

Hopefully this is not just smoke and screen from the PH government as their could be more hubs still operating in their country.
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I guess this will be for regulatory violations of laws, and also the fact that casinos this days are getting more restrictions than before and this is as a result of the raising cases of under age gambling and also the high rate of cases of gambling addiction within those neighborhoods, I have seen the close down of some clubs and if this club's have casinos inside it means the casino will close down automatically, so for sure government and really having their days this time around and whatever their come up with will be generally acceptable to their citizens.

Many of the offline casinos customers are now gradually migrating online and this have a significant impact on the outcome and traffic of online casinos lately, most especially those cryptocurrency casinos.
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