Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly - page 2.

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Quote from: redsun114 on February 05, 2023, 03:26:40 PM

That's true. Not all of them are too cruel and want's gamblers to lose more money for their own gain but some are kind and care too about their customers.

I don't think that the usual disclaimer or advice we see on casinos to gamble responsibly is really caring about their customers.

It's just that, it's mandatory to put that disclaimer as these are gambling companies.

If casinos do really take care of their customer's money, you should see lots of limit-activity programs on the site. Don't be blinded that the casinos are worried about their users losing money if you see those gambling responsibly advice posted on their sites.

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Not sure its about enjoy or not, just about avoiding damaging a market of players and the prospect of regular gambling. Someone blowing their budget is not good for them or ultimately the long term usage and prospects of that sites revenue. There is probably a mutual benefit to ensuring players dont over cook their gambling, its my basic advice that its best to stay regular not chase wins or pursue a loss expecting it'll turn around on that particular session imo just come back another time is best policy so session limits is good practice.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on February 05, 2023, 10:43:23 AM

I think that if all casinos had that, it would be ideal, a protection system to prevent players from becoming addicted.

Self-exclusion, like the service offered in Stake. It's a program to help that involved user to stay away from the site.

However, it's only Stake-related stuff obviously that the user will be able to avoid but with lots of gambling sites around, the temptation is always there.

For me, no need for such programs or advice from gambling sites if only we know how to control ourselves and try our best to become responsible, as always.

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Quote from: Betwrong on February 05, 2023, 06:07:32 AM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 04, 2023, 04:47:12 AM

I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.

Casinos have their house edge, and that's how they make money: the more people wager on their platform, the more the casinos earn. They don't care whether you are losing or winning as long as you are wagering. And, of course, they don't enjoy someone losing much more than he/she can afford to lose. It can potentially create troubles for a particular casino and gambling industry in general. No one needs that. So, contrary to popular belief, casinos are not interested in people losing all their money to them. Casinos want to see responsible gamblers on their platforms, not some gambling addicts.

I think I already saw a crypto casino which doesn't have a house edge on them and there are also casino whose house edge is so tiny. Maybe these types of casinos are the ones who cares the most to their players. They still can earn in other ways like by putting some advertisements on their site. The players can also voluntarily click on it to help increase the earnings of that site.

Casinos can earn through house edges and that is why they offer different forms of bonuses and as well as other features which can make the gambler come back on their site to wager/play more. They do care of course when someone wins because it's a loss for them.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 04, 2023, 04:47:12 AM

I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.

Online casino is a business so people losing money means profit for the platform. When there is profit from a legit business, even though people are losing money, I believe online casino are happy.

Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 04, 2023, 04:47:12 AM

I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them.

I do not think so, I believe they put responsible gambling on their site to comply with the regulation and at the same time reminds players about it.

Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 04, 2023, 04:47:12 AM

They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up. Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.

I believe more than a moral obligation but legal obligation to make reponsible gambling available in their service tool.

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Any thoughts?

Self-discipline is the key coupled with knowledge on risk managment and financial management.

Quote from: redsun114 on February 05, 2023, 03:26:40 PM

That's true. Not all of them are too cruel and want's gamblers to lose more money for their own gain but some are kind and care too about their customers. That is why they gave a warning or a reminder if a gambler is already gambling excessively. They can also offer exclusion and lastly, they can do some donations. It's only sad that there are still gamblers who can't follow all those guidelines and got carried away by the hype cause of gambling.

At the end, casinos are still being blamed which are wrong and this why they got a bad reputation over time when they are only intention at the first place is to provide another form of entertainment to the public.

I agree, it is not the casinos fault why people are having financial difficulty. It is the lack of discipline and knowledge on bankroll managment that makes people suffer huge losses. The casinos are just offering their services it is up to the gambling on how he will use them.

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That's true. Not all of them are too cruel and want's gamblers to lose more money for their own gain but some are kind and care too about their customers. That is why they gave a warning or a reminder if a gambler is already gambling excessively. They can also offer exclusion and lastly, they can do some donations. It's only sad that there are still gamblers who can't follow all those guidelines and got carried away by the hype cause of gambling.

At the end, casinos are still being blamed which are wrong and this why they got a bad reputation over time when they are only intention at the first place is to provide another form of entertainment to the public.

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Quote from: South Park on February 05, 2023, 01:45:15 PM

The business model of casinos is very straightforward, they offer a service and they earn money with it, however unlike the majority of the services where we can hire a person we can have a sense of loss after gambling, a sense of loss which is not there when you hire a plumber for example, then casinos need to strike a balance between getting as much money as possible from the clients and at the same time to keep those same clients happy, and in a way this explains all the bonuses casinos are willing to giveaway to diminish those negative feelings.

The business model is as simple as you have explained. They give out a product for you to buy and then make sure that you are satisfied with the product whether you are winning or losing. They make sure that even though you are making loses, the few bonuses are available to you to keep going and keep gambling.
They make there money from the product you buy and if you keep winning that is fine but they will balance that from others who might be having a bad time with the way they handle the product. It ether you play man's you win or you play and you lose, two things involve.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on February 05, 2023, 02:03:55 PM

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on February 05, 2023, 12:18:35 PM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 04, 2023, 04:47:12 AM

I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.
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Any thoughts?

I think they do want their "customers" to remain happy so that they will keep coming back. Although casinos, just like any other business care about their profits more than anything else. Which can be morally right or morally wrong, depending on the different perspectives. But they do need to make money if they wish to survive as a business, thats a fact.

But I do believe that they would not want to do anything that might anger their customers. Obviously, making sure their customers participate in responsible gambling is part of that.

They are placing those reminders as default reminders to the players.
It is like a friendly reminder to the gamblers so they won't be too hard to the casino.
So it seems they want to take care of their players by being mindful of what they do.
But of course, let's accept the fact that casinos want to earn profits and more.

Again the casinos are forced by the law to implement a section of their website to talk about gambling responsibly,haven't you guys seen a lot of ads in TV-s,mostly on channels that stream soccer games that during the 15 minutes break between the half time and full time we get bombarded with a lot of gambling and casino ads and they all end in the same way,either be gamble aware either gamble responsibly.This is forced by the governments of such countries and even in online casinos they have to deal with the country that they have the license from to operate.In the end a casino is a business and they don't care that much if you go broke as long as they are achieving their final goal which is maximizing profit.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on February 05, 2023, 12:18:35 PM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 04, 2023, 04:47:12 AM

I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.
~Snip
Any thoughts?

I think they do want their "customers" to remain happy so that they will keep coming back. Although casinos, just like any other business care about their profits more than anything else. Which can be morally right or morally wrong, depending on the different perspectives. But they do need to make money if they wish to survive as a business, thats a fact.

But I do believe that they would not want to do anything that might anger their customers. Obviously, making sure their customers participate in responsible gambling is part of that.

They are placing those reminders as default reminders to the players.
It is like a friendly reminder to the gamblers so they won't be too hard to the casino if in case something goes awry.
So it seems they want to take care of their players by being mindful of what they do.
But of course, let's accept the fact that casinos want to earn profits and more.
As a gambler, it is still on your hands how you will contain yourself when you are already playing.
Casinos can't do anything about your gambling activities, however, if you self-exclude yourself, that's when casinos can interfere your gambling habits.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on February 05, 2023, 12:18:35 PM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 04, 2023, 04:47:12 AM

I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.
~Snip
Any thoughts?

I think they do want their "customers" to remain happy so that they will keep coming back. Although casinos, just like any other business care about their profits more than anything else. Which can be morally right or morally wrong, depending on the different perspectives. But they do need to make money if they wish to survive as a business, thats a fact.

But I do believe that they would not want to do anything that might anger their customers. Obviously, making sure their customers participate in responsible gambling is part of that.

The business model of casinos is very straightforward, they offer a service and they earn money with it, however unlike the majority of the services where we can hire a person we can have a sense of loss after gambling, a sense of loss which is not there when you hire a plumber for example, then casinos need to strike a balance between getting as much money as possible from the clients and at the same time to keep those same clients happy, and in a way this explains all the bonuses casinos are willing to giveaway to diminish those negative feelings.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 04, 2023, 04:47:12 AM

I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.
~Snip
Any thoughts?

I think they do want their "customers" to remain happy so that they will keep coming back. Although casinos, just like any other business care about their profits more than anything else. Which can be morally right or morally wrong, depending on the different perspectives. But they do need to make money if they wish to survive as a business, thats a fact.

But I do believe that they would not want to do anything that might anger their customers. Obviously, making sure their customers participate in responsible gambling is part of that.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on February 05, 2023, 10:43:23 AM

Casinos always want players not to stop going to their casinos, so of course a type of defense mechanism can be activated for this, in fact I don't remember in which thread I read it here in the forum where there are some casinos that have a option of being able to pre-rot your players, that an option is activated when they see that they are playing a lot and losing everything, where they warn them to only bet a certain amount of money and if they lose, they should not bet more, that caught my attention and I told myself that That casino or the casinos that have that option are truly excellent with their customers. I think that if all casinos had that, it would be ideal, a protection system to prevent players from becoming addicted.

I think it is very important to learn to control yourself, rather than putting the responsibility on the casino. Man who can not control himself may spend all his money outside the casino, for example, in a bar, a party or elsewhere.

In my opinion, no casino feature is not capable of stopping a gambler who is trying to win back his losses, because he can easily bypass the system and simply move to another casino.

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Probably. Although there had been issues with physical casinos in regards with the places where they built their establishments. Most of them are near a place where there are more poor people. I don't know if that is true though. But about online casinos, I don't think they want us staying online 24/7 and just gambling our lives away. That's not healthy and it will reflect on our bets which are not thoroughly thought about. That is not entertainment anymore, that is a habit that will be difficult to erase.
Chasing losses is what makes one gambler stay for longer periods. Because online sites are easy to access they won't be able to sleep unless they get it back.

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Casinos always want players not to stop going to their casinos, so of course a type of defense mechanism can be activated for this, in fact I don't remember in which thread I read it here in the forum where there are some casinos that have a option of being able to pre-rot your players, that an option is activated when they see that they are playing a lot and losing everything, where they warn them to only bet a certain amount of money and if they lose, they should not bet more, that caught my attention and I told myself that That casino or the casinos that have that option are truly excellent with their customers. I think that if all casinos had that, it would be ideal, a protection system to prevent players from becoming addicted.

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It seems like an obligation to keep gamblers to be responsible gamblers even though the industry expects to profit from losing gamblers.
Casinos know very well that there are many gamblers who will be addicted even they know that some gamblers will not be able to control themselves and their urge to gamble. So while some of us don't think it's necessary for casinos and the industry to warn their gamblers to be responsible gamblers, I think it's one thing so in the end the casinos are not to blame.

I've seen this in few casinos so it's only natural for casinos to hold gamblers to be responsible for their betting decisions and how they play. In fact, this may have been required of the casino as rule that must be read by its customers.

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It's just a default warning page that most regulated casinos will probably have to publish specifically whether they like it or not. But let's take the middle point, the casinos will stick to the company and don't want them to be dragged into the personal problems of their customers due to uncontrolled gambling. Having a dedicated page on responsible-play means casinos can safely do business on their own terms.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 04, 2023, 04:47:12 AM

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- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.

Maybe, from one side there are positive and good, responsible warnings are published by online casinos to their users, good, if users are aware of this, but the facts on the ground are not like that, many cases of users using their savings or selling property to gamble, hope to double their money, because many users are greedy and ambitious in betting.

They are aware, without the warning users know about it, but due to other negative factors, so many users who bet on online casinos ignore it, they close their eyes because they have been covered in great lust.

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Quote from: Betwrong on February 05, 2023, 06:07:32 AM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 04, 2023, 04:47:12 AM

I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.

Casinos have their house edge, and that's how they make money: the more people wager on their platform, the more the casinos earn. They don't care whether you are losing or winning as long as you are wagering.

I disagree on this because casino will lose part of their bank roll if players keeps winning because house edge is just a small portion of someone bet. Are you telling that if a player is consistently winning 1million usd per bet is still alright with them because they can get assuming 1% house edge on that winning amount because you said that they will keep being in profit win or lose?

Casino gets most of their profit on players that losing their bankroll. House edge is just their way to increase chance of winning against of players but doesn’t mean that they are immune to losses because of this house edge. Casino can keep up their profit because some players is losing to compensate someone profit while they get house edge profit either way. There’s no way for them to be in profit if the majority of players is in profit.

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I agree, it's on the gambler's side on how he can manage his game.
This is also why I don't fully sympathize with those who are blaming it all on the online gambling site. Like the one story that came out here telling that one gambling site still keeps on mailing him about events and promotions while he is trying to come out from his gambling addiction.
It's on him to try other things to escape fully from that service. He could always make a new e-mail or just leave it there and never open it again.
It's his mistake in the first place for using that e-mail for his bad habits while others use a dummy mail.
Anyway, I do believe they don't really like people who got deep into their gambling addiction as it will also create some problems on their side.
That's why every time they make advertisements, the gamble responsibly is glued into it.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 04, 2023, 04:47:12 AM

I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.

Casinos have their house edge, and that's how they make money: the more people wager on their platform, the more the casinos earn. They don't care whether you are losing or winning as long as you are wagering. And, of course, they don't enjoy someone losing much more than he/she can afford to lose. It can potentially create troubles for a particular casino and gambling industry in general. No one needs that. So, contrary to popular belief, casinos are not interested in people losing all their money to them. Casinos want to see responsible gamblers on their platforms, not some gambling addicts.

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