No Jupiter Gb #2 refund = Scam. The order for this GB was never placed.
There are two possibale reasons why he refuses to send the refunds.
1) it's a scam.
2) he bought anti depressants of silkroad with our BTC
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September 20, 2013, 01:34:26 AM
September 19, 2013, 11:35:12 PM
Is there any interest in a mediator?
After having a conversation with the roommate, it does not seem like anything Tom has said has been bullshit.
Any interest in someone else hosting the devices instead of a refund? Seems like there is very little time left before they are delivered.
Where is Prodigits?
After having a conversation with the roommate, it does not seem like anything Tom has said has been bullshit.
Any interest in someone else hosting the devices instead of a refund? Seems like there is very little time left before they are delivered.
Where is Prodigits?
Read this 10 times from fydel....
"prodigits7 claims to have met OP and that he will take care of the refund process now.
But actually only one participant has been refunded with 0.55 BTC. The other refunds have been Paypal chargebacks."
If that's not enough then you should read every post in this thread. These guys are so full of bullshit its unreal.
September 19, 2013, 10:46:25 PM
Any interest in someone else hosting the devices instead of a refund? Seems like there is very little time left before they are delivered.
No! I want to get out of this mess as soon as possible.
And prodigits7 said the refund is already issued on KNC's side. But the wire transfer is taking longer..
Yes refund was already initiated last week daniel. The process is taking time since KnC said the refund to an international bank could take a week or more. We started the process last week with Carl, then on Thursday he came back and asked us for more bank info (ie. routing number, etc.) to make sure the funds get routed properly and it doesn't bounce back.
So all the units have been refunded??
According to prodigits7 they are. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3163734
After having a conversation with the roommate, it does not seem like anything Tom has said has been bullshit.
So what exactly did he say?
September 19, 2013, 10:03:50 PM
Any interest in someone else hosting the devices instead of a refund? Seems like there is very little time left before they are delivered.
No! I want to get out of this mess as soon as possible.
And prodigits7 said the refund is already issued on KNC's side. But the wire transfer is taking longer..
Yes refund was already initiated last week daniel. The process is taking time since KnC said the refund to an international bank could take a week or more. We started the process last week with Carl, then on Thursday he came back and asked us for more bank info (ie. routing number, etc.) to make sure the funds get routed properly and it doesn't bounce back.
So all the units have been refunded??
September 19, 2013, 09:42:54 PM
Any interest in someone else hosting the devices instead of a refund? Seems like there is very little time left before they are delivered.
No! I want to get out of this mess as soon as possible.
And prodigits7 said the refund is already issued on KNC's side. But the wire transfer is taking longer..
Yes refund was already initiated last week daniel. The process is taking time since KnC said the refund to an international bank could take a week or more. We started the process last week with Carl, then on Thursday he came back and asked us for more bank info (ie. routing number, etc.) to make sure the funds get routed properly and it doesn't bounce back.
September 19, 2013, 09:35:35 PM
Is there any interest in a mediator?
After having a conversation with the roommate, it does not seem like anything Tom has said has been bullshit.
Any interest in someone else hosting the devices instead of a refund? Seems like there is very little time left before they are delivered.
Where is Prodigits?
I would be happy to offer my hosting services. After having a conversation with the roommate, it does not seem like anything Tom has said has been bullshit.
Any interest in someone else hosting the devices instead of a refund? Seems like there is very little time left before they are delivered.
Where is Prodigits?
September 19, 2013, 09:28:48 PM
Is there any interest in a mediator?
After having a conversation with the roommate, it does not seem like anything Tom has said has been bullshit.
Any interest in someone else hosting the devices instead of a refund? Seems like there is very little time left before they are delivered.
Where is Prodigits?
After having a conversation with the roommate, it does not seem like anything Tom has said has been bullshit.
Any interest in someone else hosting the devices instead of a refund? Seems like there is very little time left before they are delivered.
Where is Prodigits?
September 19, 2013, 09:01:14 PM
What happened here?
OP is not responding. Claims to have mental issues. Participants decided to cancel this GB and get refunds.
OP is okay with it.
Do we know if the hardware was bought and paid for by Tom?
Yes. JohnK logged in his account and took a screenshot.
If so what makes everyone want a refund?
Nobody thinks he will pay out dividends in a proper manner.
What makes you think he will not follow through?
prodigits7 claims to have met OP and that he will take care of the refund process now.
But actually only one participant has been refunded with 0.55 BTC. The other refunds have been Paypal chargebacks.
This whole mess with this delay tactics is going on for nearly two months now.
Many believe prodigits7 is ragingazn628 or at least his sock puppet.
There is much more. Just read the last posts of ragingazn628 and prodigits7.
September 19, 2013, 08:18:50 PM
Let me ask some questions before I throw this guy under the bus.
I don't have time to read this entire thread.
What happened here?
Do we know if the hardware was bought and paid for by Tom?
If so what makes everyone want a refund?
What makes you think he will not follow through?
I don't have time to read this entire thread.
What happened here?
Do we know if the hardware was bought and paid for by Tom?
If so what makes everyone want a refund?
What makes you think he will not follow through?
September 19, 2013, 07:46:13 PM
Much more info coming, give me 90 minutes.
September 19, 2013, 07:33:20 PM
Thanks for infos, guys!
Lessons learned: Google before investing! And never give money to a loony who makes absolut shitty hardware review videos with his roommate's snoring as background noise.
I feel so stupid now. Ripped off by an idiot.
Lessons learned: Google before investing! And never give money to a loony who makes absolut shitty hardware review videos with his roommate's snoring as background noise.
I feel so stupid now. Ripped off by an idiot.
September 19, 2013, 07:15:45 PM
"Tom's Tech Tips" confirming his name is indeed Tom, just incase anyone had any doubts about that too.
Tom is his Americanized first name.
He was not born in the U.S.
September 19, 2013, 07:08:56 PM
Also on imgur incase it gets taken down: http://imgur.com/DRwQnvW[/b]
Hope this helps move things along a bit as I'm still waiting for my 10 BTC refund..
Hope this helps move things along a bit as I'm still waiting for my 10 BTC refund..
Good Job Rulez!!
Here is a better picture.
More to come.....
September 19, 2013, 07:05:09 PM
I just emailed him,
I have his real name and his personal email address, which I will be releasing if I don't get my money.
I have his real name and his personal email address, which I will be releasing if I don't get my money.
FYI Stephen Lincoln is his housemate. Raging's first name is Tom.
That's not the name I sent paypal funds to.
Are they in the US or elsewhere?
From post 21-22
Here's his "roommate":
Stephen Lincoln
[email protected]
From post 31
Toms Ebay name is toms.technology
http://www.ebay.com/usr/toms.technology
He bought this for his aquarium
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181140083038
If you have more information post it, there is nothig else to wait on. If you paid with Paypal you may get it back, if you paid with BTC like many of us you are fucked.
West Hartford, Connecticut
bumping as this seems to get a reaction.
Here's his youtube channel(s):
http://www.youtube.com/user/ragingazn628
http://www.youtube.com/charrgaming
Here's a bunch of links from that charrgaming channel of his (supposedly):
http://twitch.tv/charrgaming
http://facebook.com/charrgamingx
http://twitter.com/charrgaming
Likely not of any use but I figured I'd post them anyway.
He speaks in his videos incase anyone wondered what he sounded like. The first one he has recorded he is whispering as his roommate, Stephen, is asleep (he says on the video. Confirms his roommate Stephen exists incase anyone had any doubts)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U80HY83BlhM
"Tom's Tech Tips" confirming his name is indeed Tom, just incase anyone had any doubts about that too.
He's got videos on there of other people (probably family or something?).
In this video he shows his face in the reflection in case anyone needs confirmation of what he looks like.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6xkiSR0_V0&t=252
Also on imgur incase it gets taken down: http://imgur.com/DRwQnvW
Hope this helps move things along a bit as I'm still waiting for my 10 BTC refund..
September 19, 2013, 06:50:23 PM
Putting together data now.
Already have his full name
City and State (working on Address now)
Day and Date of Birth
Birth place
Eye color
Photo
EMail address
Already have his full name
City and State (working on Address now)
Day and Date of Birth
Birth place
Eye color
Photo
EMail address
September 19, 2013, 05:23:27 PM
I just emailed him,
I have his real name and his personal email address, which I will be releasing if I don't get my money.
I have his real name and his personal email address, which I will be releasing if I don't get my money.
FYI Stephen Lincoln is his housemate. Raging's first name is Tom.
That's not the name I sent paypal funds to.
Are they in the US or elsewhere?
From post 21-22
Here's his "roommate":
Stephen Lincoln
[email protected]
From post 31
Toms Ebay name is toms.technology
http://www.ebay.com/usr/toms.technology
He bought this for his aquarium
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181140083038
If you have more information post it, there is nothig else to wait on. If you paid with Paypal you may get it back, if you paid with BTC like many of us you are fucked.
West Hartford, Connecticut
bumping as this seems to get a reaction.
September 19, 2013, 05:14:56 PM
I just emailed him,
I have his real name and his personal email address, which I will be releasing if I don't get my money.
I have his real name and his personal email address, which I will be releasing if I don't get my money.
FYI Stephen Lincoln is his housemate. Raging's first name is Tom.
That's not the name I sent paypal funds to.
Are they in the US or elsewhere?
From post 21-22
Here's his "roommate":
Stephen Lincoln
[email protected]
From post 31
Toms Ebay name is toms.technology
http://www.ebay.com/usr/toms.technology
He bought this for his aquarium
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181140083038
If you have more information post it, there is nothig else to wait on. If you paid with Paypal you may get it back, if you paid with BTC like many of us you are fucked.
West Hartford, Connecticut
bumping as this seems to get a reaction.
September 19, 2013, 05:13:26 PM
:takes the podium:
As one of the larger investors in this venture (33 BTC) I'd like to throw my two cents into the pile.
Legal engagement is a costly option. There's a growing sentiment of running this through the legal system. Know that lawyers love money almost as much as we do, and will likely take a large share of the recoupment. If someone knows a pro-bono guy, that's a different story.
Regarding other options, there is a growing lynch-mob sentiment growing here. JohnK has yet to unload the nuclear option. Should he do so, it will most likely be to one or two trusted members of this group buy. ragin's info will not be publicly posted until all other options are exhausted. That's just bad business to send the mob out with pitchforks.
Give it a break guys, or get in direct contact with JohnK. Put pressure where pressure is most effectively put. Personally, I went into this with the knowledge that there is risk inherent in this type of investment. Act like men and shit or get off the pot.
:drops the mic:
As one of the larger investors in this venture (33 BTC) I'd like to throw my two cents into the pile.
Legal engagement is a costly option. There's a growing sentiment of running this through the legal system. Know that lawyers love money almost as much as we do, and will likely take a large share of the recoupment. If someone knows a pro-bono guy, that's a different story.
Regarding other options, there is a growing lynch-mob sentiment growing here. JohnK has yet to unload the nuclear option. Should he do so, it will most likely be to one or two trusted members of this group buy. ragin's info will not be publicly posted until all other options are exhausted. That's just bad business to send the mob out with pitchforks.
Give it a break guys, or get in direct contact with JohnK. Put pressure where pressure is most effectively put. Personally, I went into this with the knowledge that there is risk inherent in this type of investment. Act like men and shit or get off the pot.
:drops the mic:
Nice try, ragingazn.
Heh!@ even if this wasn't Rag this would be something. Some how you are acting like a man while be fucked out of 33 BTC. Nice try indeed!
John K. did not escrow this GB so it is not his responsibility. If he chooses to release information that is his business. With that said what is great about this is we don't need him, things will balance themselves as they always do. You guys are stealing other people's money and they are going to be upset about it. You have had enough time to square things up and have decided ignore, delay, etc. etc. What happens as a result of that will be well earned.
September 19, 2013, 05:12:13 PM
I've been busy with school and have not kept up with what's going on. Have anybody received the Miners? Has anybody received refunds? What is going on with this Group Buy?
September 19, 2013, 04:58:37 PM
:takes the podium:
As one of the larger investors in this venture (33 BTC) I'd like to throw my two cents into the pile.
Legal engagement is a costly option. There's a growing sentiment of running this through the legal system. Know that lawyers love money almost as much as we do, and will likely take a large share of the recoupment. If someone knows a pro-bono guy, that's a different story.
Regarding other options, there is a growing lynch-mob sentiment growing here. JohnK has yet to unload the nuclear option. Should he do so, it will most likely be to one or two trusted members of this group buy. ragin's info will not be publicly posted until all other options are exhausted. That's just bad business to send the mob out with pitchforks.
Give it a break guys, or get in direct contact with JohnK. Put pressure where pressure is most effectively put. Personally, I went into this with the knowledge that there is risk inherent in this type of investment. Act like men and shit or get off the pot.
:drops the mic:
As one of the larger investors in this venture (33 BTC) I'd like to throw my two cents into the pile.
Legal engagement is a costly option. There's a growing sentiment of running this through the legal system. Know that lawyers love money almost as much as we do, and will likely take a large share of the recoupment. If someone knows a pro-bono guy, that's a different story.
Regarding other options, there is a growing lynch-mob sentiment growing here. JohnK has yet to unload the nuclear option. Should he do so, it will most likely be to one or two trusted members of this group buy. ragin's info will not be publicly posted until all other options are exhausted. That's just bad business to send the mob out with pitchforks.
Give it a break guys, or get in direct contact with JohnK. Put pressure where pressure is most effectively put. Personally, I went into this with the knowledge that there is risk inherent in this type of investment. Act like men and shit or get off the pot.
:drops the mic:
Nice try, ragingazn.
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